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Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by israelmao(m): 8:25pm On Jul 06
The three victim's attitudes:
1.He blames government
2.He blames his family background
3.He blames other people around him except himself.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by boxypane: 8:31pm On Jul 06
Africa will remember this. I hope they'd be ready for the consequences. Worst part is majority of those classified as illegal immigrants have actually been in the process of getting their papers but frustrated for the past 2 or more years.

Na today I no say na the whites in SA dey really hold that country, most behave like Kangaroos.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 8:34pm On Jul 06
IronGalaxy:
I'm busy playing my PlayStation without a generator..you wont relate..
We have solar here.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 8:34pm On Jul 06
ClassicMan202:
Exactly the point... After playing PlayStation all day you'll look for one successful foreigner to hate on for having more money than you
HEHEHEHEHE!
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 8:37pm On Jul 06
Apcshit:
This is a useless documentary. XENOPHOBIC IS NOT A DISEASE
The poor lady is traumatized and pained and needs who to channel the hate towards.

She could have simply stated I hate these criminals who destroyed my sons life but nope. She hates "foreigners". Which foreigners Aunty?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Nnamdipapa(m): 8:38pm On Jul 06
It's their country, and they can do whatever they want. It's left for us to build our own country.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 8:39pm On Jul 06
Nnamdipapa:
It's their country, and they can do whatever they want. It's left for us to build our own country.
Who is dragging with them?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Flangelo12: 8:44pm On Jul 06
LordLicifer:
Maybe we should copy south africans and hold our corrupt govament to account at least south africans has the balls to querry their govament.
Did south Africans hold their government to account or did they attack immigrants?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 9:08pm On Jul 06
Flangelo12:
Did south Africans hold their government to account or did they attack immigrants?
Maybe you should tell me since you know more than the south africans , tell me which one they did.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by mirrael68(m): 9:12pm On Jul 06
Kushites:
So long as the white minority are allowed to own all that land and wealth in South Africa, forget about lifting up the black majority in a substantial way.

South Africa is still colonised, so I don't know what "governance failure" you're referring to.

If the govt decides to redistribute the wealth and land ownership, they'll get the Zimbabwe treatment from their western "partners". HEAVY ECONOMIC SANCTIONS that would ruin their economy.

So they are still colonised.

Only the eventual decline or collapse of western powers as a whole will lead to African emancipation.

The universe will make it happen.

Which universe? Na universe create you? Universe is a creation too. Universe can do nothing positive.
The Western world can't keep been the scapegoats for our backwardness, our wickedness is responsible.
Black man get issues with loving and helping his kind stand.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Clobisman(m): 9:18pm On Jul 06
Xenophobia in South Africa arose because of the failures of the government in being accountable to the citizens. The discussion of whether the anger is really directed at the easiest scapegoats is another discussion but the citizens didn’t wait for government to dictate or influence there grouse. Can the same be said about our country where the most bizarre things happen by those in power and they go scot free because they have succeeded in keeping the citizens shut by instilling fears into them.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Anatolia: 9:20pm On Jul 06
When you are miserable, you make others miserable too. Setefricans are miserable and jealous people. I blame Nigerians who are going to that country.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 9:30pm On Jul 06
Clobisman:
Xenophobia in South Africa arose because of the failures of the government in being accountable to the citizens. The discussion of whether the anger is really directed at the easiest scapegoats is another discussion but the citizens didn’t wait for government to dictate or influence there grouse. Can the same be said about our country where the most bizarre things happen by those in power and they go scot free because they have succeeded in keeping the citizens shut by instilling fears into them.
What fear are you talking about.

Do people not protest in Nigeria?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by WorkTheTalk(op): 9:32pm On Jul 06
dettolgel:
Taking laws into their hands without holding the responsible government accountable? Dey play grin
Have you been able to hold the corrupt Nigerian government accountable for the economic woes and insecurity? Did you condemn the killings of the EndSars protesters by the Nigerian government?
They way things are going in South Africa, they citizens would finally revolt against the government. It's a matter of time.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Flangelo12: 9:35pm On Jul 06
LordLicifer:
Maybe you should tell me since you know more than the south africans , tell me which one they did.
Writing nonsense.

Thank God most Nigerians are smarter than this.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 9:41pm On Jul 06
Flangelo12:
Writing nonsense.

Thank God most Nigerians are smarter than this.
You still have not told me what south africans did. grin smart guy!

Most Nigerians are smarter yet cannot hold their corrupt looting govament to account unlike south africans all most nigerians know is blaming south africans for their failures.

The tribalisms in nigeria is worst than any xenophobia and racisms in any country.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by dettolgel: 9:46pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:
Have you been able to hold the corrupt Nigerian government accountable for the economic woes and insecurity? Did you condemn the killings of the EndSars protesters by the Nigerian government?
They way things are going in South Africa, they citizens would finally revolt against the government. It's a matter of time.
Two things can be true at the same time grin

SA insteads of holding their government accountable they decided to show their xenophobic side.

At least in Nigeri we didn't take out government failure on ordinary everyday immigrants living amongst us grin
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by lezz(m): 10:06pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.
Zulu country. Ineptitude mask as xenophobia
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 10:07pm On Jul 06
WorkTheTalk:
Have you been able to hold the corrupt Nigerian government accountable for the economic woes and insecurity? Did you condemn the killings of the EndSars protesters by the Nigerian government?
They way things are going in South Africa, they citizens would finally revolt against the government. It's a matter of time.
Don't mind them, when it comes to South African issues every nigerian wakes up, the tribalism in nigeria is worst but no nigerian remembers that all they do is blame south africans for nigerians failure
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by WorkTheTalk(op): 10:31pm On Jul 06
dettolgel:
Two things can be true at the same time grin

SA insteads of holding their government accountable they decided to show their xenophobic side.

At least in Nigeri we didn't take out government failure on ordinary everyday immigrants living amongst us grin
Things can always happen the other way around. Boko Haram members, kidnappers and bandits say the government has failed them. And who pays the price? The innocent citizens. Not just a few victims, but thousands of victims.
By the way, are you ready to join the protest for hundreds of school children, teachers, women and men still held captive by terrorists in the forests? Or you are busy crying about a few Nigerians facing attackes in South Africa?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Flangelo12: 11:06pm On Jul 06
LordLicifer:
You still have not told me what south africans did. grin smart guy!

Most Nigerians are smarter yet cannot hold their corrupt looting govament to account unlike south africans all most nigerians know is blaming south africans for their failures.

The tribalisms in nigeria is worst than any xenophobia and racisms in any country.
He would claim claim to be a university graduate.

grin
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Cromagnon: 11:48pm On Jul 06
Smh

Just smmfh
So land is the only way to get wealth
What did zimbabwe do with the land they seized from white man
Kushites:
So long as the white minority are allowed to own all that land and wealth in South Africa, forget about lifting up the black majority in a substantial way.

South Africa is still colonised, so I don't know what "governance failure" you're referring to.

If the govt decides to redistribute the wealth and land ownership, they'll get the Zimbabwe treatment from their western "partners". HEAVY ECONOMIC SANCTIONS that would ruin their economy.

How come west can sanction you but unproductive socialists cannot sanction west? Could you nou survive before white man came? Why must you depend on west for food and medicine and cars. Why don't west sanction China? Or Russia

Bad work man blames his tools


So they are still colonised.

Only the eventual decline or collapse of western powers as a whole will lead to African emancipation.

The universe will make it happen.
clown talk
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by AlphaTaikun: 12:13am On Jul 07
WorkTheTalk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Glister: 12:30am On Jul 07
WorkTheTalk:
Things can always happen the other way around. Boko Haram members, kidnappers and bandits say the government has failed them. And who pays the price? The innocent citizens. Not just a few victims, but thousands of victims.
By the way, are you ready to join the protest for hundreds of school children, teachers, women and men still held captive by terrorists in the forests? Or you are busy crying about a few Nigerians facing attackes in South Africa?
Woh just shut ur tap of a mouth already.What if its ur family member that was thrown on d streets or beaten or kpaid there? Will u talk like this? ..
Do we hv our issues in Nigeria,yes yes yes..and Nigerians talk about it daily ,nonstop..It doesnt mean we shouldn't talk about what is going on to Nigerians and other Africans there.
You people come and tell people to mind their problems,Nigerians are there just like they are in Europe and everywhere..if such happens elsewhere, we will talk about it also just shut tf up!!!
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by ceejay80s(m): 12:56am On Jul 07
WorkTheTalk:
The xenophobic attacks in South Africa, and the banditry attacks in Nigeria are clear cases of governance failures resulting in citizens taking laws into their hands.



Have you been able to hold the Nigerian government accountable for the corruption and bad policies that lead to economic woes, insecurity, kidnappings and killings? Did you condemn the killings of the EndSars protesters who dared to stand up against the corrupt federal government institution?

They way things are going in South Africa, they citizens would finally revolt against the government. It's a matter of time.

What we are going through here in Nigeria are worst than what other Nigerians are going through in South Africa. That is the reason many of them don't want to come back.
Hopefully, Nigerians would leave tribalism and religion aside, and demand accountability from the government.
the day Nigerians will stand against its government eh!!! hell will be let lose
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by RandDigital: 1:11am On Jul 07
Where's the BBC riots in Ireland against black immigrants?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by morpheus24: 2:04am On Jul 07
RandDigital:
Where's the BBC riots in Ireland against black immigrants?
Are you comparing your actions to that of White nationalists?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by gabbytabby: 2:26am On Jul 07
Most countries have the same problems instead of a living wage they provide a minimum wage that one is still destitute and/or homeless while working full time and keep the minimum wage low that only desperate immigrants often illegals would take the jobs.

Some try to get a balance and will provide social programs like housing allowance or subsidised housing which only a few organisations do in Nigeria (Nepa in ijede) because they will deduct straight from salary.

The system needs to be reworked by both government and employers of labour.

If the assasinators can be shaken off, it will go a long way in providing the resources for a Gaddafi and Traore initiative to take hold in Africa.


WorkTheTalk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZ8BYg-kM

The South African government has failed its citizens. Many of the citizens no more have trust in the government, and are now taking laws into their hands. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have become the scapegoats.

Dudula is one of South Africa's most notorious anti-migrant groups whose members say they are standing up for ordinary South Africans let down by their government. The vigilante groups blame illegal migrants for South Africa's struggling economy, lack of housing, and rising drug abuse.

The uncomfortable parallel:

For the Nigerian audience, it should not just be "look how South Africans treat our people" — it is the mirror it holds up. When a state fails to deliver jobs, housing, security, and basic services, citizens do not always direct their anger upward at the institutions responsible. Often it is easier, and more immediately satisfying, to direct it sideways — at the neighbor, fellow citizens, the migrants, and people that cannot easily fight back.

Nigeria has its own history of this dynamic, just aimed differently: ethnic and religious scapegoating, "indigene vs. settler" tensions, "genocide", terrorism, banditry, violence attacks of its own within its borders.

That does not make the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa acceptable — it makes it explicable, which is different. Migrants, documented or not, do not set housing policy, do not run the economy, and did not create unemployment. They are a visible, relatively powerless target in a country where the real grievances are with institutions too large and too entrenched to confront directly.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by WorkTheTalk(op): 5:17am On Jul 07
Glister:
Woh just shut ur tap of a mouth already.What if its ur family member that was thrown on d streets or beaten or kpaid there? Will u talk like this? ..
Do we hv our issues in Nigeria,yes yes yes..and Nigerians talk about it daily ,nonstop..It doesnt mean we shouldn't talk about what is going on to Nigerians and other Africans there.
You people come and tell people to mind their problems,Nigerians are there just like they are in Europe and everywhere..if such happens elsewhere, we will talk about it also just shut tf up!!!
You are missing the point all together. We all condemn the xenophobic attacks in South Africa. South Africans are doing the wrong thing to get the attention of their failed government. While we in Nigeria sit in corners and do cho cho cho nonstop, thousands of Nigerian are killed in Nigeria every month. Has the talk talk talk nonstop move the government to end the killings?
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by LordLicifer(m): 9:08am On Jul 07
Flangelo12:
He would claim claim to be a university graduate.

grin
No! mate! I am not a graduate infact, i never attended any school at all but i am proud of myself today with my achievement in life. You can laugh and mock all you want grin it doesn't bother me, you have never even met me! i try to learn everyday of my life from everything, everywhere i go and everyone i met and so far i have done very well for myself. I employ quite a few so called univesity graduates cheesy everybody must not be a graduate, graduate my a....ss!! I have been to 30 countries already and still counting.

Now,Mr graduate! Knowitall, tell me what south africans did, you cannot even give any answer.

I tell you what! Mr graduate, i can employ you also.. believe it or not.
Re: Xenophobia: Fear & Loathing In South Africa - BBC Africa Documentary (Throwback) by Ibrahim1985: 10:56am On Jul 07
IronGalaxy:
I'm busy playing my PlayStation without a generator..you wont relate..
Lol you act like you do not have power outage in South Africa, some places are not having electricity for a month with no light. You will soon buy a generator or use solar and relate
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