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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by justasitis: 4:28pm On Jul 09

Sapiosexuality:
The inverter is 3.5KW and I use four panels of 555W each.

Ok, this is not bad depending on the minimum PV input specifications of your inverter. However if this fault didn’t occur from the beginning of your installation then it could be as a result of poor wiring or connections from your panels to the DC SPD. You may need to retighten all PV wire connections and screws on the DC SPD and breaker because partial connections can trigger such faults. Meanwhile, your DC breaker seems to be broken and the culprit partial connections can even be from this breaker, so check it properly and if necessary replace it with the appropriate DC breaker size.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by smallsmall: 4:30pm On Jul 09

twinskenny:
Installed

6kva deye inverter

10kwh deye lithium battery

8 no of 620w jinko panels

Location. Lekki Lagos

08051355133

Good job, Nice combination.

Try and be mounting your panels on Railings,, instead of directly on the Roof.
Allows air to pass be low and cool the Panels, in hot weather.
This improves efficiency.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 5:33pm On Jul 09

AyarmBoye:
Nowell it depends on the voc of the first panel…this your new panel shows 52v,,assuming your old panel is 40v then it will be 92v connected in series…it’s within the 100v max of your inverter..However it’s still not advisable cause of voltage spike…safety factor of 1.25 should be considered which will be 1.25*92v = 115v which is above what your inverter can take…

Also if your old panel is 50-52v,it still won’t work…Either was,,listen to ur installer

Your installer is very correct…You need an Mppt cc but I think 100a is too much except you plan to increase your pv array in the future…60ams will do the work….

Okay thanks, I now understand. I think the best thing is to get MPPT to avoid future damage to the inverter

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chadbasin: 5:37pm On Jul 09

twinskenny:
Installed

6kva deye inverter

10kwh deye lithium battery

8 no of 620w jinko panels

Location. Lekki Lagos

08051355133

Please what's the difference between this Deye 6kva and the other "usual" 6kva type?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jstemmanex(m): 6:50pm On Jul 09

Pls I need help o, been trying to locate the page where phone charging business with solar was discussed. Anyone who can pls help with the link.

I'm planning setting up a phone charging business for a retiring uncle with my old bread 1.5kw and 4kw Haisic and considering adding 3 pcs of 590w panel. If he runs it well and there's higher demand, I may get a larger setup and add 3 more 590 panels

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by twinskenny(m): 7:48pm On Jul 09

smallsmall:
Good job, Nice combination.

Try and be mounting your panels on Railings,, instead of directly on the Roof.
Allows air to pass be low and cool the Panels, in hot weather.
This improves efficiency.

Noted but we installed rail as well.. difficult pitch roof

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 7:59pm On Jul 09

chadbasin:
Please what's the difference between this Deye 6kva and the other "usual" 6kva type?

https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/2397#139763990

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by twinskenny(m): 8:14pm On Jul 09

chadbasin:
Please what's the difference between this Deye 6kva and the other "usual" 6kva type?

That one is On grid it can send light to national grid

The other one is off grid this one can't

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by twinskenny(m): 8:14pm On Jul 09

mctfopt:
https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/2397#139763990

Thank you for this

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by iraybuju: 9:37pm On Jul 09

temizeee:
Coming from someone that own and used infared and induction cooker, I will pick an induction cooker anyday anytime over an infared cooker. What i like most about induction cooker is the speed at which it cooks, It saves more energy than infared cooker…i got few set of stainless pot at a local store here that works with induction cooker at a ridiculous cheap price…4 sets for about 20k.

Hello bro where did you get those pot from? Please can I WhatsApp you

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:39pm On Jul 09

hoover420:
Guys, I don’t understand my installer, but I don’t want to be too forward since it’s not my area of expertise.

 I got the Jinko 585-watt panel to complement the single 535-watt I installed for my Haisic 1.5kVA inverter because I also use grid to charge it. Now the installer is telling me it can’t work directly and that I’ll have to buy an MPPT for it to work.
Even before I got the 585 watt, I asked several people here and they said I could install it, but it might not be effective. However, this installer is telling me my inverter is too small and that it can’t accept any extra panel without an MPPT controller of 100A. Meanwhile this is the same guy that installed my setup initially.

The picture of the panel & inverter is below.

from what I see, your installer is RIGHT. your inverter got a hard limit of 100v and your 2 panels in series would exceed 100v which would either cause the inverter to trip off OR DESTROY the inverter.

The only alternative would be to parallel both solar panels BUT that would lead to lots of wastages.

What would suggest is you either upgrade your inverter or get an external charge controller.

Should you go ahead and still connect both panels in series, instead of parallel (which would waste resources a lot), expect 1 of the following
1. the inverter would disconnect (off) in other to protect it's self.
2. the inverter would go bad
3. the inverter would charge normally around early mornings and late evenings BUT at Noon or when theirs enough sunLight, would stop CHARGing

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:46pm On Jul 09

Pabodo:
Thank you for your input and I truly appreciate. Please my budget is 2m with slight adjustment not more than 300k. Please, I need a setup this amount can be used for. Either a 24v or 48v

would suggest you at least inform us of your LOAD.

Kindly attach your load (categorized by what time of the day they are mostly used and how often) to your Original post and quote it so we can see it. That way, we don't make suggestions blindly

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:54pm On Jul 09

hoover420:
Okay thanks, which MPPT will you suggest then? Or which one are you currently using? Note my set up is just 12v

unfortunately, most charge controllers supports up to a max of 700w to 800w for 12v system BUT since most have VOC of 120v, you are in luck as the charge controller would just handle the excesses.

You can buy New or USEd ones. Don't know your location as I got those having USED ones for s - a - l - e

Either ensure whatever charge controller you go for has at least 120v for the 12v setUp.

Still you just might be spedning more trying to get things work with your 12v system EXCEPT you make the intentional effort to buy things that would continue being useful when you later upgrade

Your minimum would be a 60A MPPT charge controller though would suggest 80A as minimum BUT either way, ensure you don't buy blindly. Check to confirm it conforms to your requirements

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jp130(m): 5:12am On Jul 10

Please boss, the used ones that are on sale, how much are there and their ratings?

bassdow:
unfortunately, most charge controllers supports up to a max of 700w to 800w for 12v system BUT since most have VOC of 120v, you are in luck as the charge controller would just handle the excesses.

You can buy New or USEd ones. Don't know your location as I got those having USED ones for s - a - l - e

Either ensure whatever charge controller you go for has at least 120v for the 12v setUp.

Still you just might be spedning more trying to get things work with your 12v system EXCEPT you make the intentional effort to buy things that would continue being useful when you later upgrade

Your minimum would be a 60A MPPT charge controller though would suggest 80A as minimum BUT either way, ensure you don't buy blindly. Check to confirm it conforms to your requirements

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 6:00am On Jul 10

bassdow:
unfortunately, most charge controllers supports up to a max of 700w to 800w for 12v system BUT since most have VOC of 120v, you are in luck as the charge controller would just handle the excesses.

You can buy New or USEd ones. Don't know your location as I got those having USED ones for s - a - l - e

Either ensure whatever charge controller you go for has at least 120v for the 12v setUp.

Still you just might be spedning more trying to get things work with your 12v system EXCEPT you make the intentional effort to buy things that would continue being useful when you later upgrade

Your minimum would be a 60A MPPT charge controller though would suggest 80A as minimum BUT either way, ensure you don't buy blindly. Check to confirm it conforms to your requirements

Omoh Solar setup just cost more and more money. This is just a 12v system and I have already spent way more than I imagined. When I wanted to get the Haisic 1.5kva & 3.6kwh battery, no one told me I’ll still need an MPPT for just 2 panels but lesson learnt cry

. There is absolutely no advantage of using a 12v system if you’ll still have to use MPPT that cost money. Now I can see myself spending another reasonable sum just to charge battery while still spending close to 25k every month on electricity (prepaid).
Anyways my location is mainland Lagos and I’ll be interested in the USED 80A MPPT you have for sale. Thank you!

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Fremlin: 8:34am On Jul 10

hoover420:
Omoh Solar setup just cost more and more money. This is just a 12v system and I have already spent way more than I imagined. When I wanted to get the Haisic 1.5kva & 3.6kwh battery, no one told me I’ll still need an MPPT for just 2 panels but lesson learnt . There is absolutely no advantage of using a 12v system if you’ll still have to use MPPT that cost money. Now I can see myself spending another reasonable sum just to charge battery while still spending close to 25k every month on electricity (prepaid).
Anyways my location is mainland Lagos and I’ll be interested in the USED 80A MPPT you have for sale. Thank you!

If you can, sell the inverter and get another inverter. Some 12v inverters go over 100vdc, I think bread do too.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:38am On Jul 10

jp130:
Please boss, the used ones that are on sale, how much are there and their ratings?

from 150,000 naira.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 8:42am On Jul 10

Fremlin:
If you can, sell the inverter and get another inverter. Some 12v inverters go over 100vdc, I think bread do too.

Bro I just got the Haisic inverter less than 4 months ago? If I am to sell it now, it means I’ll have to go for the 24v cos what’s the essence of selling it just to get another brand of 12v and 1.5kva again? All those walaha just tire me, meanwhile I am still paying nothing less than 20k for prepaid. Power generation in this country will just drain someone if the person isn’t careful.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:46am On Jul 10*

hoover420:
Omoh Solar setup just cost more and more money. This is just a 12v system and I have already spent way more than I imagined. When I wanted to get the Haisic 1.5kva & 3.6kwh battery, no one told me I’ll still need an MPPT for just 2 panels but lesson learnt . There is absolutely no advantage of using a 12v system if you’ll still have to use MPPT that cost money. Now I can see myself spending another reasonable sum just to charge battery while still spending close to 25k every month on electricity (prepaid).
Anyways my location is mainland Lagos and I’ll be interested in the USED 80A MPPT you have for sale. Thank you!

says Who ? I persoanlly have said that in here several times during the Hybrid or NOT hybrid arguments.
I often said except you don't outGrow said hybrid inverter, or doesn't go partial bad, you still could find yourself needing an external charge controller. ofCourse I said several other things which all sounded like NOISE.

Though to be fair, your situation is mostly because the hybrid is somewhat small which is normal for some 12v and 24v systems BUT even at that, every hybrid inverter has it's own maximums just like regular external charge controllers BUT they have advantage of being able to allow more series connections.

I go talk BUT dem go call me old school. What they don't know is the RICH / WEALTHY only get RICHer / WEALTHier at the expense of the POOR. No wonder they have made people believe it's better to not use Memory cards but instead pay subscriptions for cloud storage. Same is happening with eSims instead of simCard and when you try to educate people, they call you oldSchool thinking they're better

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 9:01am On Jul 10

hoover420:
Bro I just got the Haisic inverter less than 4 months ago? If I am to sell it now, it means I’ll have to go for the 24v cos what’s the essence of selling it just to get another brand of 12v and 1.5kva again? All those walaha just tire me, meanwhile I am still paying nothing less than 20k for prepaid. Power generation in this country will just drain someone if the person isn’t careful.

You see why it often seem absurd when I ask lots of questions which ends up sounding silly. anyway you wouldn't be the first.

There are products in market meant to FAVOUR the COMPANY and not the CUSTOMER. If you fail to know that, you keep on falling prey.

Some of una na mostly Lithium dey make una run to 12v system BUT have said it before (oh I love saying "I told You" wink

that our minimum should be 24v except you absolutely know what you doing. if you must do 12v, there are things you shouldn't bother yourself with. Get a USEd pure sinewave inverter, USEd good enough MPPT charge controller, Very good Solar panels, then battery of your choice.

Invest more on the charge controller and solar panels as if you have plans to go 48v in less than 2-months time. That's because if done right, you wouldn't be under pressure to sell them off anytime soon. BUT most people only plans for today, as in RIGHT now, not tomorrow BUT no wahala, Me hope to be available to help you sell them off so long they're the quality Ones.

As for batteries, some are using 12v system because they forced themselves to use Lithium batteries. Even at that, a lot would still struggle to aford average lithium batteries sef.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 9:02am On Jul 10

hoover420:
Omoh Solar setup just cost more and more money. This is just a 12v system and I have already spent way more than I imagined. When I wanted to get the Haisic 1.5kva & 3.6kwh battery, no one told me I’ll still need an MPPT for just 2 panels but lesson learnt . There is absolutely no advantage of using a 12v system if you’ll still have to use MPPT that cost money. Now I can see myself spending another reasonable sum just to charge battery while still spending close to 25k every month on electricity (prepaid).
Anyways my location is mainland Lagos and I’ll be interested in the USED 80A MPPT you have for sale. Thank you!

Me sef dey Lagos / Ogun state. and for 80A, e dey. na money remain.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 9:11am On Jul 10

jp130:
Please boss, the used ones that are on sale, how much are there and their ratings?

Also USED inverters and charge controllers and leadAcid batteries. The lithium battery available is not trustworthy.

Also brand new solar panels of different brands

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 9:26am On Jul 10

bassdow:
says Who ? I persoanlly have said that in here several times during the Hybrid or NOT hybrid arguments.
I often said except you don't outGrow said hybrid inverter, you still could find yourself needing an external charge controller. ofCourse I said several other things which all sounded like NOISE.

Though to be fair, your situation is mostly because the hybrid is somewhat small which is normal for 12v and 24v systems BUT even at that, every hybrid inverter has it's own maximums just like regular external charge controllers BUT they have advantage of being able to allow more series connections.

I go talk BUT dem go call me old school. What they don't know is the RICH / WEALTHY only get RICHer / WEALTHier at the expense of the POOR. No wonder they have made people believe it's better to not use Memory cards but instead pay for cloud storage. Same is happening with eSims instead of simCard and when you try to educate people, they call you oldSchool thinking they're better

In your first paragraph, I understand that someone will definitely outgrow a small setup but I didn’t realise I’ll still have to spend money on MPPT just to mount 2 panels. If it was 4 or 6 panels now, I’ll understand but just 2 panels? Well choice is not a luxury I can afford anymore since I already got the new panel. Na to buy MPPT & lock up remain like this.
On the contrary, regarding your 3rd paragraph, it is better to use eSIM especially if you are using an expensive phone like iPhone because the advantage outweighs the disadvantages. With eSIM, you can easily track your phone because the thief won’t be able to pull out your sim except he off it and whenever he switches it on back, you can call to negotiate or you can continue tracking it. Also the thief won’t be able to physically access ur SIM card, maybe to have access to your contacts or bank informations.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 9:31am On Jul 10

bassdow:
Me sef dey Lagos / Ogun state. and for 80A, e dey. na money remain.

So how much is the 80A(USED) and if I am to switch to a bigger set up like 24v or 48v in the future, will the 80A still be useful or I go need to expand to 100A again?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 9:59am On Jul 10

hoover420:
In your first paragraph, I understand that someone will definitely outgrow a small setup but I didn’t realise I’ll still have to spend money on MPPT just to mount 2 panels. If it was 4 or 6 panels now, I’ll understand but just 2 panels? Well choice is not a luxury I can afford anymore since I already got the new panel. Na to buy MPPT & lock up remain like this.
On the contrary, regarding your 3rd paragraph, it is better to use eSIM especially if you are using an expensive phone like iPhone because the advantage outweighs the disadvantages. With eSIM, you can easily track your phone because the thief won’t be able to pull out your sim except he off it and whenever he switches it on back, you can call to negotiate or you can continue tracking it. Also the thief won’t be able to physically access ur SIM card, maybe to have access to your contacts or bank informations.

if you say so BUT no enter FIGHT thinkng of only of the PUNCHes you would throw as if the opponenet would just stand and be looking at you.

No get strength + time to argue this morning BUT either way, Persoanlly I love to control the variables and eSim doesn't, and wouldn't give me such room.

End of discussion

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Haykay2001: 10:11am On Jul 10

Your situation is somehow somehow sah... Anyways, you can get powmr cc 60a. Bur all this is just like going on another high way sah.. Because soon or let me say very soon, you go one upgrade maybe to 24 or 48v system and at that point the cc will not be useful for YOU again.. Solar is addictive sah..

hoover420:
Okay thanks, which MPPT will you suggest then? Or which one are you currently using? Note my set up is just 12v

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:35am On Jul 10

Haykay2001:
Your situation is somehow somehow sah... Anyways, you can get powmr cc 60a. Bur all this is just like going on another high way sah.. Because soon or let me say very soon, you go one upgrade maybe to 24 or 48v system and at that point the cc will not be useful for YOU again.. Solar is addictive sah..

funny enough, if not careful, He still might need it even at 24v. Few days ago, I pointed out what I have nboticed with some inverters e.g groWatt where some 3kva / 3.5kva has such limitations where you can't even have more than 2 strings in series without hitting limits

Also except He outrightly wants hybrid inverter, He surely would need it.

Issue is a lot of people don't plan for tomorrow Today. They just focus for today and Now alone

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:22am On Jul 10*

hoover420:
So how much is the 80A(USED) and if I am to switch to a bigger set up like 24v or 48v in the future, will the 80A still be useful or I go need to expand to 100A again?

unfortunately the bots have striked ma comment away so you would need send me message to get that.

Yes, the 80A works even if you go as high as 48v system.

isue is, most times, we see the price of a charge contorller not far from cost of a hybrid inverter AND that in it's self is quite understandabe

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 11:39am On Jul 10

Just close eye buy bread inverter. 500v dc. You can stack 4 of your panels

hoover420:
Omoh Solar setup just cost more and more money. This is just a 12v system and I have already spent way more than I imagined. When I wanted to get the Haisic 1.5kva & 3.6kwh battery, no one told me I’ll still need an MPPT for just 2 panels but lesson learnt . There is absolutely no advantage of using a 12v system if you’ll still have to use MPPT that cost money. Now I can see myself spending another reasonable sum just to charge battery while still spending close to 25k every month on electricity (prepaid).
Anyways my location is mainland Lagos and I’ll be interested in the USED 80A MPPT you have for sale. Thank you!

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 11:43am On Jul 10

twinskenny:
Thank you for this

You are welcome

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