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hoover420:
So how much is the 80A(USED) and if I am to switch to a bigger set up like 24v or 48v in the future, will the 80A still be useful or I go need to expand to 100A again?

Maybe your system is design to handle high current instead of high voltage, which mean you can connect your panels in parallel instead of series ..or replace your panels with low voltage panels that can accommodate the system

Haykay2001:
Your situation is somehow somehow sah... Anyways, you can get powmr cc 60a. Bur all this is just like going on another high way sah.. Because soon or let me say very soon, you go one upgrade maybe to 24 or 48v system and at that point the cc will not be useful for YOU again.. Solar is addictive sah..

That’s the problem. After little while, there will always be a need to upgrade

bassdow:
unfortunately the bots have striked ma comment away so you would need send me message to get that.

Yes, the 80A works even if you go as high as 48v system.

isue is, most times, we see the price of a charge contorller not far from cost of a hybrid inverter AND that in it's self is quite understandabe

I’ll send a message, the price I am seeing is quite on the high side for real, almost the price I used to get the Haisic hybrid Inverter

hoover420:
That’s the problem. After little while, there will always be a need to upgrade

Bro confirm if your panels can even reach 50v before you buy the charge controller. Because I never seen a jinko panel reading 50v and above. Also shading can be applied to the panel to reduce the voltage

Gshems:
Just close eye buy bread inverter. 500v dc. You can stack 4 of your panels

It means I’ll have to sell the Haisic I just got few months ago. I think my best bet is to just get the MPPT and lock up but damn, I didn’t imagine I’ll have to get that just to stack more than one panel. I’m on a tight budget so selling just to buy another might not be feasible for me. Meanwhile na me just Dey stress myself cos just 3 hrs of grid is enough to charge my battery to atleast 60 percent while I compliment it with panel but charging the inverter with prepaid Dey always chop units

eghos12:
Bro confirm if your panels can even reach 50v before you buy the charge controller. Because I never seen a jinko panel reading 50v and above. Also shading can be applied to the panel to reduce the voltage

The Jinko 535 watt I installed is not up to 50v. But the new 585 i got is up to that, not sure though. Also, what do you mean by shading?

hoover420:
The Jinko 535 watt I installed is not up to 50v. But the new 585 i got is up to that, not sure though. Also, what do you mean by shading?

What's the value for the 535w?

Unfaized:
What's the value for the 535w?

Please what do you mean by value? The price I got it or the properties of the panel?

I think I'm ready to let go of this for 80k. I initially kept it a backup.

Only issue is I don't have the manual so I'm unable to change the alarm type. When the voltage drops to the low voltage setting, the alarm starts

Anyone pls

jstemmanex:
Pls I need help o, been trying to locate the page where phone charging business with solar was discussed. Anyone who can pls help with the link.

I'm planning setting up a phone charging business for a retiring uncle with my old bread 1.5kw and 4kw Haisic and considering adding 3 pcs of 590w panel. If he runs it well and there's higher demand, I may get a larger setup and add 3 more 590 panels

Bro, nack the 585w together with the 535. The 585w and 535 has the same voc. It won't get to 100v. I have 2 535w in series and the highest I have seen my voc is 85-90v. While working it is mostly on 75-80v. It will work.

hoover420:
The Jinko 535 watt I installed is not up to 50v. But the new 585 i got is up to that, not sure though. Also, what do you mean by shading?

There is no how you get 105v. After all the voltage loss due to cabling and distance. If I be you, I go nack am this weekend. Monitor the thing all weekend

Gshems:
Bro, nack the 585w together with the 535. The 585w and 535 has the same voc. It won't get to 100v. I have 2 535w in series and the highest I have seen my voc is 85-90v. While working it is mostly on 75-80v. It will work. There is no how you get 105v. After all the voltage loss due to cabling and distance. If I be you, I go nack am this weekend. Monitor the thing all weekend

My intention was to nack it together o, but the installer said it won’t work. I called him yesterday to come install it, he saw it and checked the side of my inverter, only to say I’ll need MPPT for it to work because the voltage don pass the one of the inverter. If MPPT was cheap now, I won’t mind but the price I am seeing for MPPT is not encouraging at all.
Is your set up also 12v and 1.5kva?

hoover420:
My intention was to nack it together o, but the installer said it won’t work. I called him yesterday to come install it, he saw it and checked the side of my inverter, only to say I’ll need MPPT for it to work because the voltage don pass the one of the inverter. If MPPT was cheap now, I won’t mind but the price I am seeing for MPPT is not encouraging at all.
Is your set up also 12v and 1.5kva?

this haisic 12v inverter has a pwm cc inside.

You should have gone with Sako or bread Inverter, they have 500vdv mppt cc.

fuckboys:
this haisic 12v inverter has a pwm cc inside.

You should have gone with Sako or bread Inverter, they have 500vdv mppt cc.

It’s painful I didn’t know all this before I got the inverter. I just went with the inverter that was recommended to me. Meanwhile when I wanted to get this setup, the person didn’t include MPPT but included about 4 panels to it. Does it mean that the person didn’t know that the haisic inverter won’t take up to that? Cos what he told me was that all I needed was a solar panel of less than 1500w which is what the inverter can take. All of a sudden I don Dey hear say I go need MPPT

fuckboys:
this haisic 12v inverter has a pwm cc inside.

You should have gone with Sako or bread Inverter, they have 500vdv mppt cc.

It's mppt but not a high voltage. Normal pwm will allow him to parallel to have high amps.

hoover420:
My intention was to nack it together o, but the installer said it won’t work. I called him yesterday to come install it, he saw it and checked the side of my inverter, only to say I’ll need MPPT for it to work because the voltage don pass the one of the inverter. If MPPT was cheap now, I won’t mind but the price I am seeing for MPPT is not encouraging at all.
Is your set up also 12v and 1.5kva?

Bro call him to do it all die na die.

hoover420:


I’ll send a message, the price I am seeing is quite on the high side for real, almost the price I used to get the Haisic hybrid Inverter

which is quite understandAble hence at times I just try to understand people.

Those who really spend are mostly those who really have been beaten more than twice. When you get such people as clients, just try ensure you don't FAIL them as that just might be the very last straw for them. e get people wey except you willing to give them everything 100% FREE would never wanna invest a single penny in solar or even softwares. A lot of them have been heavily disappointed in the past.

Some havve spent millions developing moobile apps that really failed thhem. if you go today to try talk to dem, dem go just see you as another person wey come suck dem dry.

Your own situation na say you no meet person wey do the very hard work to reduce chances for errors OR maybe initially it might have even been your own fault. Have lost clients all because I refused telling them what they wanna hear.

Either way, you either upGrade to 24v system (that one sef comes with it's own issues if you mistakenly buys a hybrid inverter that would limit you also e.g some models of groWatt inverters or some very cheap inverters) or just buy an external charge controller and continue enjoying the PROs of transformerLess inverters.

To everyOne else, either You engage someOne experienced and honest enough to put your interest first OR you spend 2-months or as much as 1-year researching on what you wanna BUY to avoid issues.
Atimes it's even better to start actively planing when the funds ain't ready yet to avoid impulsive purchases OR those sellers that would trick you into thinking if you don't act now, you loose out big time.

I sabi dem playBook yet don't do a lot of those things myself hence reason should you try it with me, it wouldn't only FAIL but would PISS me off.

eghos12:
It's mppt but not a high voltage. Normal pwm will allow him to parallel to have high amps.

from the sticker He shared, he still could do parallel BUT high current would lead to inefficiencies + don't be surprised they might have used the least possible cable which might also need changing.

Also I doubt that hybrid inverter got MPPT BUT even if it does, those ones has the minimum voltage they would reach before thhe MPPT capability kicks in else e go just work as PWM.

Mind you, we not even talk about quality or capability

hoover420:
It’s painful I didn’t know all this before I got the inverter. I just went with the inverter that was recommended to me. Meanwhile when I wanted to get this setup, the person didn’t include MPPT but included about 4 panels to it. Does it mean that the person didn’t know that the haisic inverter won’t take up to that? Cos what he told me was that all I needed was a solar panel of less than 1500w which is what the inverter can take. All of a sudden I don Dey hear say I go need MPPT

mayBe if he had told you then, He/She might have lost you to another person. Speaking out of experience. I have lost clients myself just for not telling them what they wanna hear. Good thing I no send God, let alone ma fellow human.

Some would even give projects based on appearance.

Another thing is, there are people that prefers getting you hooked in first, then other things follows BECAUSE they ffear loosing you if they're upFront.

Another could be it was an honest mistake or skipped their mind.

Another is, e fit no sabi.

Another could be it was suggested BUT you gave enough reasons (probably to keep costs low) He/She decided otherwise. A lot of times, clients rarely accept their own fault. They prefer to pin that on whomever they outsourced the project to.

so you see, at end of the day, na only You and Your installer that understands whose really at fault.

hoover420:
Please what do you mean by value? The price I got it or the properties of the panel?

The voc

hoover420:
My intention was to nack it together o, but the installer said it won’t work. I called him yesterday to come install it, he saw it and checked the side of my inverter, only to say I’ll need MPPT for it to work because the voltage don pass the one of the inverter. If MPPT was cheap now, I won’t mind but the price I am seeing for MPPT is not encouraging at all.
Is your set up also 12v and 1.5kva?

what if I told you a lot of people steer towards Hybrid (All-In-One) inverters mostly to avoid the extra cost of external charge controllers. Like I often say, no normal human would intentionally spend extra when faced with sensible alternatives EXCEPT they really have a good reason.

Funny enough, there still are CHEAP ones some of which are of good quality. issue be say na opportunity person dey see such AND if you follow price go buy anything, soon you find yourself needing to sell it off.

Your options are either getting the charge controller OR putting them in parallel BUT if you force it on series, you taking a huge risk. I already listed out at least 3 or 4 things that could happen.

Also you ought to have asked questions or consuulted with your installer before purchasing the second solar panel

eghos12:
Bro call him to do it all die na die.

Maybe that’s what I’ll just do, but make the thing no go spoil the inverter o, cos as it is now, even with one 535-watt panel installed, as long as there is sunlight and just 3 hours of grid daily, my 3.6 kWh battery go full. My only problem is if there is no NEPA light at all for 3 straight days.

Unfaized:
The voc

The issue is I didn’t snap the back of the Jinko 535 watt I installed before installing it but when I checked for the spec online, this is what I found below

hoover420:
Maybe that’s what I’ll just do, but make the thing no go spoil the inverter o, cos as it is now, even with one 535-watt panel installed, as long as there is sunlight and just 3 hours of grid daily, my 3.6 kWh battery go full. My only problem is if there is no NEPA light at all for 3 straight days.

see eh, just put it in parallel and try things out OR listen to those who wouldn't be affected should things go bad though in your situation, the inverter MIGHT not spoil. It just could stop charging till the sun goes down enough BUT are you wiling to take such risk ?

hoover420:
The issue is I didn’t snap the back of the Jinko 535 watt I installed before installing it but when I checked for the spec online, this is what I found below

always TRUST what's on the solar panel's sticker even if na fake

obinna37:
I have a similar problem but mine always happen in the morning around 9 to 10am, I connected 9 pieces of 550w in series,I have a 24v system with high frequency sms 5kva inverter,but when I remove one of the solar panel,it stop

That's weird. All rained almost the entire day yesterday and it didn't happen.

Today, it's being going smoothly until somewhere around 4:04 and it started displaying the error 51.

I disconnected the changeover, put off the inverter and put it back on and did the same for the SPDs and it's back to normal again. Though my changeover is still on neutral.

Removing the panel shouldn't be the only way. There has to be another way to go around it.

bassdow:
mayBe if he had told you then, He/She might have lost you to another person. Speaking out of experience. I have lost clients myself just for not telling them what they wanna hear. Good thing I no send God, let alone ma fellow human.

Some would even give projects based on appearance.

Another thing is, there are people that prefers getting you hooked in first, then other things follows BECAUSE they ffear loosing you if they're upFront.

Another could be it was an honest mistake or skipped their mind.

Another is, e fit no sabi.

Another could be it was suggested BUT you gave enough reasons (probably to keep costs low) He/She decided otherwise. A lot of times, clients rarely accept their own fault. They prefer to pin that on whomever they outsourced the project to.

so you see, at end of the day, na only You and Your installer that understands whose really at fault.

Funny enough, after the installer gave me estimates, I still came to this group to do due diligence. Afterall na from Mr Valto I got the inverter and battery due to recommendation from the group!

justasitis:
Ok, this is not bad depending on the minimum PV input specifications of your inverter. However if this fault didn’t occur from the beginning of your installation then it could be as a result of poor wiring or connections from your panels to the DC SPD. You may need to retighten all PV wire connections and screws on the DC SPD and breaker because partial connections can trigger such faults. Meanwhile, your DC breaker seems to be broken and the culprit partial connections can even be from this breaker, so check it properly and if necessary replace it with the appropriate DC breaker size.

I've already replaced the breakers on the first day that I noticed the problem.

Could it be a damaged cable? A week or two back, I was using it to boil water, something I rarely do and the water got so heated that I heard a spark on one of the cables.

Though nothing happened after that and I just simply unplugged it.

Sapiosexuality:
That's weird. All rained almost the entire day yesterday and it didn't happen.

Today, it's being going smoothly until somewhere around 4:04 and it started displaying the error 51.

I disconnected the changeover, put off the inverter and put it back on and did the same for the SPDs and it's back to normal again. Though my changeover is still on neutral.

Removing the panel shouldn't be the only way. There has to be another way to go around it.

And I just switched on the changeover and the error 51 immediately appeared? Funny thing, I switched everything off without the changeover and it worked for a while until the beeping resumed. What could that mean?

bassdow:
what if I told you a lot of people steer towards Hybrid (All-In-One) inverters mostly to avoid the extra cost of external charge controllers. Like I often say, no normal human would intentionally spend extra when faced with sensible alternatives EXCEPT they really have a good reason.

Funny enough, there still are CHEAP ones some of which are of good quality. issue be say na opportunity person dey see such AND if you follow price go buy anything, soon you find yourself needing to sell it off.

Your options are either getting the charge controller OR putting them in parallel BUT if you force it on series, you taking a huge risk. I already listed out at least 3 or 4 things that could happen.

Also you ought to have asked questions or consuulted with your installer before purchasing the second solar panel

The real reason I even went for the hybrid inverter is because I won’t need MPPT. But now, what’s the essence of getting hybrid when you’ll still MPPT to mount just 2 panels. Meanwhile I told the installer about installing it in parallel but he still insisted that it won’t work. I can’t argue with him because that’s his area of expertise and he was the one that initially installed the whole setup for me without any issues.

hoover420:
The real reason I even went for the hybrid inverter is because I won’t need MPPT. But now, what’s the essence of getting hybrid when you’ll still MPPT to mount just 2 panels. Meanwhile I told the installer about installing it in parallel but he still insisted that it won’t work. I can’t argue with him because that’s his area of expertise and he was the one that initially installed the whole setup for me without any issues.

see eh, Him saying it won't work tells You or Us nothing.

Okay, just reviewed the stickers on your inverter and solar panel, and can actually confirm that wouldn't work smoothly. Seriously your options are either to change that inverter or get an external charge contorller

Me dey mostly flow through the page hence as soon as talk don too much, my memory of the original comment fit don fade except I am reminded or I go through the stress of flipping back

hoover420:
The issue is I didn’t snap the back of the Jinko 535 watt I installed before installing it but when I checked for the spec online, this is what I found below

Don't go ahead with the installation, it's not safe.

Your options are;
1. Get an mppt charge controller.
2. Sell inverter at a small loss and get Bread inverter with higher Voc.
3. Sell or keep the extra panel and work towards upgrading to 24v.

I'll go for option 2 if it was me.