₦airaland Forum

seunmsg:
In fact, Shagari had to rely on the 12 2/3rd mathematical ingenuity to win. They came very close to winning. With a little support from our Ibo brothers back then, they would have won. But no, they chose to sabotage the ticket. Now, they are angry because the core north refused to sabotage the Muslim - Muslim ticket.

Very close indeed!
Check the gap below
Why didn't our Yoruba brothers in Kwara vote Awolowo to get him over the line? What about Rivers, Benue and Cross River?
It sems you have an obsession with the Igbo

seunmsg:
Obafemi Awolowo and Philip Umeadi of UPN. They came second to Shagari/Ekwueme.

Seunmsg, this is the same Awo who nearly ten years earlier had said about by then mostly igbo biafra.....

"All is fair in war, and starvation is one of the weapons of war. I don't see why we should feed our enemies fat in Nigeria only for them to fight us harder."

I mean, if someone had said that about your tribe, you go vote for am?

I think that Awo was better than Shagari in 1979, Awo had run a whole ass region, while Shagari had just been a minister, and government official, but the past in politcs always haunts us.

Sure it was odd Igbos would vote for someone from a region where pogrom targetting them had happened, but...and look at this...did Shagari go on the record in 1966 shouting 'keel de nyamurais'? And even though Zik was running they knew he got no chance by that time.

Same reason why someone like Ojukwu could never win presidency. Past mistakes always come to haunt us (it's even why some of us don't want to do politics, the next thing we know, some joke will wake up and start talking about how that guy was known to be a thief at a young age...without mentioning that the theft was sweets taken from Mama risi's shop at the age of five!)

Welcome to the cold reality of politics.

3Ceagle:
Name one Muslim Politician in each of the 5 states in the East that you know or may not. What is the size of Muslims in each of those states, I am not even talking of indigenous Muslims. Common sense no common.

You can't take what you dish out

There a lot of Igbo Muslims in all the 5 south east states. Make just one of them deputy governor first

discusant:
Because any Muslim from the southeast is a FAKE Muslim induced by money.
Igbos don't do Islam. That's one of the reasons they want to opt out of Nigeria, so that rest of Nigeria will declare Nigeria an Islamic state to be ruled by Mullahs forever.

You can't take what you dish out

There a lot of Igbo Muslims in all the 5 south east states. Make just one of them deputy governor first

PlayerMeji:
How many northern states have Christians as their deputy governors?

There's Muslim Muslim ticket in all the over 17 northern states

Please return the phone to your parents and take your books. Stop embarrassing yourself in the public.

Nefort:
Gemini disagrees with you.

Gemini written by Zionist who are desperately trying to downplay the population of Muslims all over the world

Same Gemini that told the world that small Greenland is bigger than Africa while in reality Africa is six times the size of Greenland

rummmy:
Always quaoting figures without fact as usual

You hate the truth

sportskid:
Lies Muslims are not even up to 40% keep deceiving yourself with political figures

Why truth dey pain you for body like this

seunmsg:
We had a Christian-Christian ticket in 1979. Guess what, it was the Ibos that voted against that ticket.

Because the Igbo knew it was wrong..

lawani:
Islam isn't viable in the SE so why should they have prominent Muslim politicians? It is the same way Christianity isn't viable in Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina, Kebbi, Jigawa in the NW but only in Kaduna

What of Kogi, Niger, and Kwara where Christians are not in number but always get deputy governor?

9jatriot:
Before now, a Christian Northerner had no chance of ruling Nigeria, but because of Tinubu, they now have a chance. All they need to do is to remind the muslims of a time like this when Nigeria had a muslim muslim ticket.

That Christain Northerner may also decide to pick a Christain from the South. This may already be in the works for 2031 already, so start bracing up for it

You’re getting ahead of yourself and engaging in wishful thinking! The status-quo and dynamics that have determined the political-economy of Nigeria from the late 60s to date will first have to change before what you suggest can have even the remotest possibility of happening! The order of things can’t suddenly change just because Tinubu is president and decreed it! You’re ascribing to him Voltron-like powers which he doesn’t possess!

stuffs2002:
How many South east states have Muslims even as deputy governor?

There is Christian - Christian tickets in all the 5 Igbo states

Sometimes u talk like someone who is drunk how many northern states have Muslim christian tickets south east have just 2 percent of Muslims so wat are u saying

seunmsg:
We had a Christian-Christian ticket in 1979. Guess what, it was the Ibos that voted against that ticket.

Chai.... Igbos have suffered greatly in this country, so Igbos must be dragged into every negative opinion from you guys.

ogolemati:
I talk am, then in conclusion .which year did you join let me back track when yours stopped working

Gibberish continue to embarrass yourself.

stuffs2002:
How many South east states have Muslims even as deputy governor?

There is Christian - Christian tickets in all the 5 Igbo states

And in the NE and NW nko?

How many Christian deputy governors in the core north?

PlayerMeji:
How many northern states have Christians as their deputy governors?

There's Muslim Muslim ticket in all the over 17 northern states

We have 19 states in the northern Nigeria and we have Muslim deputy governors in the following states.
Adamawa, Gombe, Kogi, Kwara, Nasarawa. And in addition, Taraba has a Christian governor, Benue and Plateau has Christian/Christian.

So I don't know where you see your own

Uchesis:
Since a Muslim - Muslim ticket is operational in Nigeria today, can we also expect the reverse scenario in the nearest future ?

Will the North agree to this?

We actually had a Christian-Christian ticket in the Seventies.

General Gowon & Admiral Wey

Only it wasn't democratically elected

AMINDA:
What precedence has he set? The argument has always been that a Northern Christian has never been Vice or president. The precedence would have been if he selected a Northern Christian as Vice to break the jinx. But he played safe by repeating the muslim-muslim ticket because those Hausa-Fulani votes are too juicy to pass up on. Now, you're hoping to benefit from both sides by promising Northern Christians the presidency in 2031. Same people that you can not risk a VP slot for.

Hehehehehe

You cut through all his spin and bluster and laid out the facts as they are!

Uchesis:
Give me names let me fact check it

Ask him if he was born by that time

Lovit:
It's possible!

the only problem is that politicians in the south are all sell outs and idiots

The North are united in their cause irrespective of their party affiliations

But the South? Bunch of fools who don't know their worth

Where is the lie? This is just something I so much admire about the Northerners and Muslims in general. Hardly would you see a Muslim criticizing even those that are extremists in their midst but you just come down south.
The kid that created this thread needs to know that yes, Nigeria would have had a Christian President and VP both from the South if our Igbo brothers had shun hatred and had allowed the grudges from the civil war to subside. They truncated the ticket all because of the enmity from the Biafran war that was fought earlier. Today, a southerner is asking why we’ve never had a Christian-Christian Presidency when in actual fact, it’s we the southerners who killed the amazing dream. Even many Northerners didn’t look the ticket from the prism of tribalism because it gained a little traction even in the core north.
This is why we say hate does no good!

Safyqueen:
What of Kogi, Niger, and Kwara where Christians are not in number but always get deputy governor?

Majority of the Kwara indigenes I have personally met in school and at work are Christians though the state is majority Muslim. Niger has a fairly large number of Christians. They have people like Prof Jerry Gana etc and Kogi state is majority Christian. I served there. No south East state is like that. They are more than 99 percent Christian just like six states in the NW are more than 99 percent Muslim

seunmsg:
We had a Christian-Christian ticket in 1979. Guess what, it was the Ibos that voted against that ticket.

Nearest future, u r talking about 1979

Sentiments like these is the main reason we're getting bad leaders. Whether Muslim/Muslim or Christian /Christian, As long as they are competent, their religion should not matter.

Are they campaigning based on religion or competence?

goslowgoslow:
Gibberish continue to embarrass yourself.

you don't want to tell me the year you joined

problems won't come from muslims, it will come from fellow christians...

muslims are united at voting muslim muslim tickets...christians are not suppose to vote for it, yet they voted for it...Deeper lifer, RCCG, Montain of fire all voted muslim muslim ticket

Uchesis:
Since a Muslim - Muslim ticket is operational in Nigeria today, can we also expect the reverse scenario in the nearest future ?

Will the North agree to this?

Please this is not a north thing it's a party decision. No one told Peter obi not to adopt randy Peters or mama pee for instance as vice, but his platform has no provision for it. You think obi likes Muslims? He doesn't. He is constrained to. He dislikes Muslims alot

Stephen0mozzy:
The Hypocrisy of the North will not allow it.
The docility of the south made Muslim-Muslim possible.

Muslims believe that whenever you guys are given power you will behave like Israel, you will start killing Muslims indiscriminately because of apparent hatred 😡 shown to Muslims, People like Christopher Musa can become a President. That's because he doesn't show hatred towards Muslims population.

I believe that is the reason.

NigerianAngelo:
Yes.

It most be done to counterbalance the evil effects of this muslim muslim ticket.

Also Christians still have 18 years to rule uninterrupted to equate muslim rule.

By then you must have killed so many Muslims and destroyed all their mosques and denied them going to Hajj.

Unless if you can promise you don't have that agenda.

Umukor:
Sometimes u talk like someone who is drunk how many northern states have Muslim christian tickets south east have just 2 percent of Muslims so wat are u saying

No one is arguing about northern states.

* Some states in the north have Muslim -Muslim ticket
* Some states in the north have Muslim - Christian tickets
* Some states in the north have Christian - Muslim tickets
* Some states in the north have Christian - Christian tickets

You want to dish out what you can't take.

Charity begins at home so I am telling you to tell your politicians to give us Muslims as deputy governors in all the 5 states in the south east before you can demand for deputy in the north.

stuffs2002:
Gemini written by Zionist who are desperately trying to downplay the population of Muslims all over the world

Same Gemini that told the world that small Greenland is bigger than Africa while in reality Africa is six times the size of Greenland

Nobody "writes" Gemini. It scans public data and gives you result of the data scanned. It even shows you sources of where it gets information from. There is no way the population of Muslims will be 70% as the poster I quoted claimed. Check other sources and you will never see the population of Muslims anywhere near 70%.

favor914:
If he really wants to change the system e for choose a Northern Christian like Babachir . ?

Gringory Obi no get mind, Cho Cho Cho Agulu messiah, na this kind Empty Barrel wan change Nigeria.

haaaa easy o lol