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bentenny:
Yes it was on a platter.
A better composed england with the right subs could have won the game.
There is nothing special about Argentina without their talisman.

Mattswaggz:
Wuna go cry tire.

Peacecore:
But you're a Ronaldo fan don't lie

Goo0dHardDick:
Messi will cliche all the awards. Including MVP

Segxydube:
And what is special about england? Argentina will never play beautiful football but they give u results.

That's how u play cup competitions.

Ebenezer2021:
boss aImiron na your account be this?

Nope...Just another Messi fan and big time penaldogs hater.

Peacecore:
So Maradona is better than Messi?

UrVillageChief:
If it’s by squad, squad depth and quality, England is the better team.

jmichael259:
Yes, Yes let me give you more evidence that it is not Messi that is carrying this team to the final.

ViceGovernor:
Whatever record he has in world cup Kylian Mbappe is just t goals behind the assistant goat despite playing just 3 world cups.

Whereas the assistant goat went the entire 2010 world cup with no goal or assist.

If not of FIFA that is cheating other countries for him, his team would not have even made it out of the group stage cos he should have gotten blood card for the career threatening tackle in his first match......the whole VARgentina world cup presently is based on fraud from the authorities

We all saw it so we won't allow you change black to white before our very eyes.

Messi is not the one carrying the team, FIFA and his teammates and the VAR with referees should get the credit, give credit to whom it is due, don't be selfish.
He was even nicknamed Miss Penalty

BetterTomorrowN:

aswani:
This is a fallacy propagated by the English press before the tournament started and is simply based on reputation, England don't have squad depth or quality. The reality of a tepid world cup performance has dawned.

They certainly are not in the top tier of teams Inhabited by the big three of Argentina, Spain and France.

Listening to the English press, clarity seems to have set in as they now realise that apart from the second half against Croatia, they have offered little at all to light up this tournament.

How many England players, that came to this tournament with a huge reputation, will now get into the tournament XI? How many will those top three teams want in their squad.

How you can call England a better team than Argentina who were one nil down with 5 minutes to go and not just didn't let the match go to extra time, but hit the bar twice as well, is baffling.

ViceGovernor:
Doesn't matter what you edit and try to twist

The fans who watch the game are the ones who knows who the real GOAT is and who the assistant goat is.

Journalist and coaches with the corrupt FIFA that changes votes cannot change the realest vote ever 👇🏼......it is the most accurate depiction of who the world knows is the Greatest football player of all time.

Best player in EPL, La Liga, Series A, Portuguese league, Saudi Arabian league, he has Played everywhere and won every individual accolade without the help of any referee or fixing 5 penalties for him in 7 games, nor creation of 4 copa americas in 6 years. 😁😁😁😁.

If they allowed fans to vote on the ballon d'or not some biased UNICEF funded journalists like yourself, Messi would not have up to 4 Golden balls. #FACT👇🏼

BetterTomorrowN:
Statistical fact is better than "every bodies opinion"!
Why not pull up the stats pls.

ViceGovernor:
Realistic fact is different and more credible than made up statistical facts sir.

170,000 people who watch football independently of any outside pressure or influence voted on who they think is the best player.


That is as unbiased a vote as you will ever get, do it 10 times Ronaldo will come out on top 10 times.

Less than a thousand five hundred journalist will not tell us otherwise because they are all funded by the UNICEF program the same UNICEF that produced that serial cheat, robbed Chelsea blind , robbed numerous clubs with mind boggling decisions for Barcelona, the same UNICEF that hosts ballon d'or gala, sponsors coaches and is well connected in the sports world.

The fact remains the fact , the boy from Madeira CR7 is the greatest football player of all time.....that debate has been settled by votes devoid of any form of corruption.


I understand you are a Barcelona fan, that's a bitter pill for you to swallow but don't hate me for it, I'm not the one who voted......I am just a casual observer of the TRUTH.

Noise upon noise upon noise! A doctor is a doctor because he graduated medical school and earned his degree and that present as fact! Same with an engineer! They are not voted for on the internet boss! You used the word "who they think is the best player" lol?? do you get? "think"?? Facts is unbiased and opinions are not! Again, pls pull up the statistical data of these two players and let us compare or better still ignore my mention! Incase you are too big to make research, I have done it and it favors Messi more. Also na Arsenal fan I be

BetterTomorrowN:

Noise upon noise upon noise! A doctor is a doctor because he graduated medical school and earned his degree and that present as fact! Same with an engineer! They are not voted for on the internet boss! You used the word "who they think is the best player" lol?? do you get? "think"?? Facts is unbiased and opinions are not! Again, pls pull up the statistical data of these two players and let us compare or better still ignore my mention! Incase you are too big to make research, I have done it and it favors Messi more. Also na Arsenal fan I be

ViceGovernor:
We are arguing about sports, everything I referenced is related to football ⚽.

You are giving an example that is inversely proportional to the topic at hand, and somehow you are trying to convince me that you are making a point.

What form of statistical data do you want us to argue about?

World cup is the only thing given to Messi that Ronaldo did not get in his career.
That world cup was rated as the most ridiculous ever in terms of official favoritism towards VARgentina.
If FIFA followed their rules, that guy would not have a world cup trophy 🏆.

Online voting only tells you who more people prefer. It doesn't establish who objectively had the better career. If we're debating football, let's compare measurable achievements and performances instead of popularity polls. If you believe Ronaldo is greater, present the statistics and achievements that support your case. Saying the 2022 World Cup was "given" to Messi is an opinion unless you can provide evidence that FIFA broke its own rules or manipulated the tournament. Until then, it's speculation, not proof! Also You're changing the subject. My point wasn't about the 2022 World Cup; it was about using popularity polls as evidence.That my point!. If you want to compare players objectively, let's compare their careers using goals, assists, trophies, individual awards, longevity, and performances. If your case is strong, the statistics should support it without relying on internet votes but YOU and I know who statistics support.

blowjohn:
Yes.

Goo0dHardDick:
I don't do all these childish things you people do here about being fan to Ronaldo and Messi. What is my business with Ronaldo and Messi? Do they know me or my existence? I no understand. You're a fan of someone in Europe and South America enjoying their billions of dollars you'll never taste from. Omo..how una dey reason.

Dude I take football serious. I watch it once in a blue moon

Peacecore:
Oga you are denying him because he's no longer competing we aware if people like you. You stay quiet in viewing centres when a match against Argentina is going on claiming neutrality until they score against Argentina then you'll start celebrating like chicken

BetterTomorrowN:
Online voting only tells you who more people prefer. It doesn't establish who objectively had the better career. If we're debating football, let's compare measurable achievements and performances instead of popularity polls. If you believe Ronaldo is greater, present the statistics and achievements that support your case. Saying the 2022 World Cup was "given" to Messi is an opinion unless you can provide evidence that FIFA broke its own rules or manipulated the tournament. Until then, it's speculation, not proof! Also You're changing the subject. My point wasn't about the 2022 World Cup; it was about using popularity polls as evidence.That my point!. If you want to compare players objectively, let's compare their careers using goals, assists, trophies, individual awards, longevity, and performances. If your case is strong, the statistics should support it without relying on internet votes but YOU and I know who statistics support.

UrVillageChief:
You later fall my hand bro😂
So you mean that this Argentine team has more quality squad and depth than England all because of one match’s full-time result or isn’t that what you meant by this your last paragraph? Then going by your funny logic, Paraguay has a better squad and depth than Germany, Morocco has more quality players than the Netherlands while Spain has more fearsome players than France since the former dominated the later in that match and even won the match 2-nil😂
Watch football and stop relying on fulltime scoreboards because results do lie at times.
I was definitely not expecting that statement from you. The English had the better squad but were not utilized all thanks to the mumu coach and in fact, the players themselves admitted they erred by parking the bus instead of going for the win. Why this back and forth on nairaland since the players themselves agreed that they did employ a very silly tactic instead of cementing their lead? Go and watch their post-match interview. Have a nice day!

ViceGovernor:
Bolded 1.
Votes whether online or offline are used to establish facts sir, don't attempt to dismiss fact which was presented by the most renowned sports station in Great Britain.

Bolded 2.
I have just shown you facts from sky sports News, you can go to their official page to see for yourself, so I don't know what you could possibly mean by "popularity opinion" perhaps you are trying to attempt a veiled dismissal of what is clearly visible to all.

6 copa america, 4 out of them were controversial and the opponents were totally cheated.
4 ballon d'or awards out of his eight were laced with controversy including switching of votes of coaches who called to inform Cristiano that they voted for him only to see their names under Messi after FIFA released the register......which brings us back to the issue of legitimacy of the whole voting system, of they can change Ronaldo's votes, is it match officials that they cannot influence?

(1,500) Journalist and some others vote.
(170,000) Fans and observers of the truth are asked to vote and close to 75% of the voters insist Cristiano is the GOAT 🐐.
You tell me which one is a true reflection of reality?
In the court of law witness testimony is held in high esteem and I can tell you that I would rather believe the independent voters than the paid voters who are clearly biased.

Bolded 3.
You will not dismiss what we all saw as an obvious cheat on the Netherlands in the only world cup which Messi has so far, it is crucial to our argument because you can see a pattern of double standards when it comes to the decider of who wins matches,
Look sir Messi has more trophies than Ronaldo, agreed but we all know how he got those trophies with the help of the governing bodies and referees, we are not all blind .

The same cheating that gave him a world cup last time is being repeated in a worse form presently, we are talking VARgentina team who has the most fouls in this world cup (88) and the least yellow cards and also the most penalties........there's even no argument here.

You will never find Ronaldo's team in such controversial hook and crook winnings, when he wins he wins squarely and fairly a very good example is the Euros 2016......which all points to the fact that Messi was made the goat, but the streets know that Ronaldo is the GOAT.
FIFA can never change that fact.
If you are going to tell me not to rely on votes to make my point then I will also tell you to present only individual and club or country accolades that are devoid of major controversies for the assistant goat.

Do that Ronaldo will still top him, strip away all the cheating and that guy is just another very good player.

If you claim Messi is the best because of trophies given to him, I will absolutely agree with you. But trophies won baba the guy no dey win anything na ojoro them dey use for him team, see him former club owner statement 👇🏼

BetterTomorrowN:
I don't see the need in engaging you further as it seems conspiracies is what you thrive in. And did you just call the voting on sky news fact?? how many people are in the world and hw many voted? hw many even knew about the vote? don't bother replying pls. Thanks

Goo0dHardDick:
I watch football in my house bro. My DStv and decoders are there. Wetin I wan go do for viewing station? I have never been to a viewing station in my entire life. I no understand how una dey reason for this platform. Na so u broke reach?

How much have those football players given you before? I don't even watch Ball at all except when necessary.

aswani:
Sir, forget about so called names and digest the following.

Team A were 1-nil down to Team B with 5 minutes to go and they hit the bar twice yet didn't let the game go to extra time. How else can a team show it's superiority over the other.

Did Tuchel tell all 10 players to camp in the box?, Did he tell them to drop back and leave shooting space for the Chelsea guy who shoots and scores for fun? Did he tell the tall defenders not to head the ball that was crossed in gor the second goal by a short Argentinian striker?

Why would I listen to a post match interview of players who refuse to take responsibility for their inadequacies?

Peacecore:
Don't think that anyone in viewing centre doesn't have DStv bro. It's the joy but I'll still catch you again in this forum except you decide to avoid football section

UrVillageChief:
Like I said earlier, you later fall my hand big time bro😂
You keep repeating that they were beaten even after being one goal up and isn’t that what I said about you? I said you are one of those who rate teams using full-time results from livescores apps and nairaland. I should have immediately stopped engaging you the moment you started claiming that Argentina has the better squad and depth than England all because they staged a comeback on a brilliant team that decided to go bus-parking. I should have ignored you but I thought maybe someone stole your phone or something 😂Someone who watches football won’t be here saying Argentina is a better team with the better squad just because the English players decided to be stupid and park the bus instead of going for the win.
I’ve heard you, let’s stop blaming Tuchel and blame Rice for agreeing to be subbed off to bring in defenders. Let’s stop blaming the manager but the players for agreeing to follow his silly instruction. Let’s blame Saka, Eze, Watkins, Rashford, Mianoo and Ivan Toney for not disobeying the Coache’s decision to keep them on the bench since it’s not the coach’s fault according to nairaland experts😂
They should have played their own game and disregarded the manager’s instruction and tactics.
You are right my friend, whatever makes you sleep well at night🤝

Goo0dHardDick:
Which one is avoid football section? Dude, I don't do your Messi and Ronaldo banter stuff because I'm neither their fans, that doesn't mean I won't comment on football section.

How u go dey argue about guys wey dey live in billions of dollars wey no even know about your existence..omo nawa o

Peacecore:
We know a neutral fan when we see one but your biasness betrayed you.

Goo0dHardDick:
Whatever makes you feel better. This is my last response to you

Peacecore:
Okay we're here I go catch you and I must mention you whether you like it or not.