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jesusjnr2020:
Well you can argue with world's leading and most powerful nations, because they still publicly attribute their successes to Him.

Perhaps you can learn a thing or two from them to emulate their remarkable feats.

You mean nations ruled/led by corrupt and wicked politicians?
As if that means anything. Your Jesus is useIess bro.

kingxsamz:
You mean nations ruled/led by corrupt and wicked politicians?
As if that means anything. Your Jesus is useIess bro.

I mean nations whose system is working and believe is as a result of Judeo-Christian values upon which their nations were founded.

However you have every right to disagree. Won't stop praying for you though regardless.

jesusjnr2020:
I mean nations whose system is working and believe is as a result of Judeo-Christian values upon which their nations were founded.

However you have every right to disagree. Won't stop praying for you though regardless.

Doesn't matter what they believe. China is also a powerful nation and they don't give any credit to your imaginary Jesus. Nigeria gives this so called Jesus all the credit and praise but still they're in the gutters. 🤷🏽‍♂️
Let your prayers be directed to the kidnapped students, no need to waste it on me.

huptin:
I am not a muslim, i dont believe in Taqqiyah.

Did your prophet not have slaves? Where were the colonial masters then?

Have you heard of the trans sahara slave trade? It is still active as i type. If you dont know that maybe you should start reading.

What do you gain from lying?

Who were the slaves of our prophet?

stuffs2002:
What do you gain from lying?

Who were the slaves of our prophet?

Zayd Ibn Haritha, Abu Rahfi, Thurban Bin Bhujdud, Safeenah Mihran etc. They are so many..he freed lots of them later.

i did not add that Jewish girl that eventually poisoned him to death.

You can make your research on the names i furnished.

i told you i am not a not muslim, i dont believe in Yaqiyahh

huptin:
Zayd Ibn Haritha, Abu Rahfi, Thurban Bin Bhujdud, Safeenah Mihran etc. They are so many..he freed lots of them later.

i did not add that Jewish girl that eventually poisoned him to death.

You can make your research on the names i furnished.

i told you i am not a not muslim, i dont believe in Yaqiyahh

Lying and twisting stories dey una DNA.

He bought those slaves from their masters for the sole purpose of freeing them.

Bilal that became one of his best friends and one of his closest companions was a slave to an unbeliever and when Bilal converted to Islam, his unbeliever master started to torture him severely and the prophet heard about it and went to purchase Bilal just to free him instantly he was purchased.

Bilal a former slave rose to become one of the closest companions of the prophet. Bilal was the first person to give the adthan (Muslim call to prayer)

huptin:
Zayd Ibn Haritha, Abu Rahfi, Thurban Bin Bhujdud, Safeenah Mihran etc. They are so many..he freed lots of them later.

i did not add that Jewish girl that eventually poisoned him to death.

You can make your research on the names i furnished.

i told you i am not a not muslim, i dont believe in Yaqiyahh

Lol... Lying dey una DNA

The prophet bought those slaves just to to free them.

Even Bilal who later became one of the prophet's closest friend and companion was bought from an unbeliever and freed by the prophet. Bilal was the first person to give the adthan (Muslim call to prayer)

Bilal was a slave to another master and his master was wicked and cruel to him and tutured him severely when he learnt that Bilal had become a Muslim. When the prophet heard about Bilal and what Bilal was going through. He approached the owner of Bilal and purchased him and freed Bilal instantly

Deeeepandholy:
Of course, unsolicited and not in a religious area, Christians can preach to you any time any where. Not all religion enjoys that privilege
Muslims can’t even advocate for their children to cover their own hair. It’s Islamization

Again with the localized and psychotic victim mentality!

You and I know that preaching of Islam is done by subversive measures, that is why Islamists avoid engaging in it in public space because they realize how divisive their ideas are. Other religions.... buddhists, christians, hindus...are able to do their preaching openly because they do not do so in attempts to subvert or lure people by their attempts.

stuffs2002:
Lol... Lying dey una DNA

The prophet bought those slaves just to to free them.

Even Bilal who later became one of the prophet's closest friend and companion was bought from an unbeliever and freed by the prophet. Bilal was the first person to give the adthan (Muslim call to prayer)

Bilal was a slave to another master and his master was wicked and cruel to him and tutured him severely when he learnt that Bilal had become a Muslim. When the prophet heard about Bilal and what Bilal was going through. He approached the owner of Bilal and purchased him and freed Bilal instantly

Why did he not outlaw slavery? Why buy to free? You and the person deleting my posts can keep wallowing in self deluion

But only fools will be deceived. I am not a mulim i dont believe in Taqqiyah.

huptin:
➜Why did he not outlaw slavery? Why buy to free? You and the person deleting my posts can keep wallowing in self deluion But only fools will be deceived. I am not a mulim i dont believe in Taqqiyah.

The guy had several sex slaves. Why would you expect a man driven by his insatiable desires to outlaw that which he had much to gain from having? Even part of his wealth was garnered from selling of slaves. What did he have to benefit from outlawing slavery?

Most of you're gullible that is why you speak like this way. I'll give you a simple task and I want you to post the result here. Ask ChatGPT does Muslim bow their heads to stone and do they worship it. Once you're done you can get back to me.

SIRTee15:
Yeah, you guys worship the so called creator by bowing to a stone 5 times a day. God told Moses,' tell the people never to bow to a stone when worshipping me because I hate it'

U guys are confirmed Idolaters. If Jesus and Moses were around today, they will never join u guys in your pagan prayers because God told them never to bow to a stone.

olat45:
Most of you're gullible that is why you speak like this way. I'll give you a simple task and I want you to post the result here. Ask ChatGPT does Muslim bow their heads to stone and do they worship it. Once you're done you can get back to me.

I rather believe your own sources than chatGPT. Your hadith says kissing the stone erases sin, that's why people fight and struggle just to kiss the stone.

Muslims will say Moses is a Muslim bla blah bla, yet God clearly told him 'Tell the people not to erect a sacred stone in the land because I hate it'.

I'm sure u will condemn any black person in Africa that erects a stone in his backyard and worship his deity by honoring the stone calling him a pagan; but u would travel to mecca, circumnavigate a black stone, bow before it to worship Allah, then fight the crowd just to kiss it. Yet u are here telling me it's not idolatry.
Eru Arab, pack well. Truth is objective and when u see it embrace it. Associating God with a stone is paganism simple.

I don't need chatgpt to tell me that.

Laughable you'll make a textual quote that not even a weak hadith referenced that the vlack stone is kissed in other to worship it, this shows the shallowness of your knowledge and where you still Agutan Olusho religion you know.

We'll I'll give you some substantial evidence to show thta we don't worship the black stone and not a confused being that call God's creation God, Son and holy spirit ( high level of daftness).

What the authentic hadiths do say is:
The Prophet ﷺ kissed the Black Stone during ṭawāf.
Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.
This establishes that kissing the Black Stone is a Sunnah during Hajj or Umrah if one can do so without harming others.

ʿUmar ibn al-Khaṭṭāb (رضي الله عنه) said:
"I know that you are only a stone; you neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Messenger of Allah ﷺ kissing you, I would not have kissed you."
Sahih al-Bukhari (1597) and Sahih Muslim (1270).

This hadith is important because it shows that Muslims kiss the Black Stone only because the Prophet ﷺ did so, not because the stone itself has any independent power.

There is an authentic hadith about the Black Stone's origin:
"The Black Stone descended from Paradise and was whiter than milk, but the sins of the children of Adam made it black."
Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who graded it ḥasan ṣaḥīḥ.

This hadith explains why the stone is black, but it does not say that kissing it erases sins.

Read and stop acting daft

SIRTee15:
I rather believe your own sources than chatGPT. Your hadith says kissing the stone erases sin, that's why people fight and struggle just to kiss the stone.

Muslims will say Moses is a Muslim bla blah bla, yet God clearly told him 'Tell the people not to erect a sacred stone in the land because I hate it'.

I'm sure u will condemn any black person in Africa that erects a stone in his backyard and worship his deity by honoring the stone calling him a pagan; but u would travel to mecca, circumnavigate a black stone, bow before it to worship Allah, then fight the crowd just to kiss it. Yet u are here telling me it's not idolatry.
Eru Arab, pack well. Truth is objective and when u see it embrace it. Associating God with a stone is paganism simple.

I don't need chatgpt to tell me that.

olat45:
Laughable you'll make a textual quote that not even a weak hadith referenced that the vlack stone is kissed in other to worship it, this shows the shallowness of your knowledge and where you still Agutan Olusho religion you know.

We'll I'll give you some substantial evidence to show thta we don't worship the black stone and not a confused being that call God's creation God, Son and holy spirit ( high level of daftness).

What the authentic hadiths do say is:
The Prophet ﷺ kissed the Black Stone during ṭawāf.
Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.
This establishes that kissing the Black Stone is a Sunnah during Hajj or Umrah if one can do so without harming others.

ʿUmar ibn al-Khaṭṭāb (رضي الله عنه) said:
"I know that you are only a stone; you neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Messenger of Allah ﷺ kissing you, I would not have kissed you."
Sahih al-Bukhari (1597) and Sahih Muslim (1270).

This hadith is important because it shows that Muslims kiss the Black Stone only because the Prophet ﷺ did so, not because the stone itself has any independent power.

There is an authentic hadith about the Black Stone's origin:
"The Black Stone descended from Paradise and was whiter than milk, but the sins of the children of Adam made it black."
Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who graded it ḥasan ṣaḥīḥ.

This hadith explains why the stone is black, but it does not say that kissing it erases sins.

Read and stop acting daft

See this olodo.
He be like say this one never jam me, I will force u to doubt that your false religion by the time I finish with u.

Kissing the stone remove sin. It's from your hadith, and on judgement day, it will ask Allah to judge with mercy those who kiss it very well.

U think na by joke people die to kiss the stone. They are hoping the mouth of the black stone will beg for them on judgement day.


It was narrated by at-Tirmidhi (961), who classed it as hasan (good), and by Ahmad (2796), that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said concerning the Black Stone: “By Allah, Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes with which to see and a tongue with which to speak, and it will testify for those who touched it with due respect.”

Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh at-Tirmidhi

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See the nonsense they are believing. A stone will be the one telling Allah who should enter paradise and who should not.
But if u tell them The Messiah Son of God will forgive sin or reconcile them with the Father on judgement day, Muslims will throw hands in the air and start shouting shirk !!!!

Una never ready to face the truth in that religion. U people should continue with your deception, when u ready for the truth, we will talk.

Your argument is so baseless and doesn't really worth it, well let me make it known to you thta I've passed the level of doubting this religion of Islam. I'll leave you with more doubts in that so called belief of yours.

It is only a confused being that will claim someone born of human, who shits, eats and also died according to your believe is God ( laughable, even your bible confirms Jesus isn't God. Have a look at the verses:

Mark 12:29 – Jesus affirms, "The Lord our God, the Lord is one."
John 20:17 – Jesus says, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Even Jesus affirms that Allah( God) is the true God.


And no where in the bible states that Christianity is a religion,therefore it can never be a means of saving mankind. But in Islam we've verses that affirm Islam as Religion;

Indeed, the religion in the sight of God is Islam Surah Al Imran verse 19.

Shalom be objective and be open minded about Islam

SIRTee15:
See this olodo.
He be like say this one never jam me, I will force u to doubt that your false religion by the time I finish with u.

Kissing the stone remove sin. It's from your hadith, and on judgement day, it will ask Allah to judge with mercy those who kiss it very well.

U think na by joke people die to kiss the stone. They are hoping the mouth of the black stone will beg for them on judgement day.


It was narrated by at-Tirmidhi (961), who classed it as hasan (good), and by Ahmad (2796), that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said concerning the Black Stone: “By Allah, Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes with which to see and a tongue with which to speak, and it will testify for those who touched it with due respect.”

Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh at-Tirmidhi

[i]

See the nonsense they are believing. A stone will be the one telling Allah who should enter paradise and who should not.
But if u tell them The Messiah Son of God will forgive sin or reconcile them with the Father on judgement day, Muslims will throw hands in the air and start shouting shirk !!!!

Una never ready to face the truth in that religion. U people should continue with your deception, when u ready for the truth, we will talk.

olat45:
Your argument is so baseless and doesn't really worth it, well let me make it known to you thta I've passed the level of doubting this religion of Islam. I'll leave you with more doubts in that so called belief of yours.

It is only a confused being that will claim someone born of human, who shits, eats and also died according to your believe is God ( laughable, even your bible confirms Jesus isn't God. Have a look at the verses:

Mark 12:29 – Jesus affirms, "The Lord our God, the Lord is one."
John 20:17 – Jesus says, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Even Jesus affirms that Allah( God) is the true God.


And no where in the bible states that Christianity is a religion,therefore it can never be a means of saving mankind. But in Islam we've verses that affirm Islam as Religion;

Indeed, the religion in the sight of God is Islam Surah Al Imran verse 19.

Shalom be objective and be open minded about Islam

So I should accept a religion that lacks continuity with previous prophets just because a false prophet appears from no where and said an angel spoke to him!!!!!. U think that coolAid u people drink in your masjid will work here.

Objectivity means consistency and validity, something Islam lacks.
Islam is a religion strange to all previous prophets including Jesus, Moses and Abraham.

All previous prophets called God Father, Islam came and said God of the quran never said he should be called Father
All previous prophets called God YHWH- I AM THAT I AM, Islam came and refused to recognise YHWH as personal name of God.
All previous prophets affirm God can enter creation, Islam came and said God can't enter creation, yet we see Allah inside the burning bush talking to Musa

Surah 27
7. When Moses said to his family, “I have glimpsed a fire. I will bring you some news from it; or bring you a firebrand, that you may warm yourselves.”
8. Then, when he reached it, he was called: “Blessed is He who is in the fire, and He who is around it, and glorified be God, Lord of the Worlds.
9. O Moses, it is I, Allah, the Almighty, the Wise.
10. Throw down your staff.” But when he saw it quivering, as though it were a demon, he turned around not looking back. “O Moses, do not fear; the messengers do not fear in My presence.


God told Moses do not associate me with sacred stones because I hate it, mormor came and said Muslims have to bow towards a sacred stone before they can pray to God.

Deut 16
21 Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to the Lord your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the Lord your God hates.

All prophets understood The Messiah is the One to sent to the deliver salvation to the whole world, Islam came and said The Messiah is just a name for Jesus.

Islam is a false religion, the earlier u know this, the better. mentioning that the word Islam in your book means nothing. Joseph Smith said the same thing in the book of Mormon but u Muslims don't follow him.

If u can convincingly refute any of the points I make up there either with any scripture be it Quran or Bible; I will say my shahada tonight.

I repeat, If u can successfully prove that MORMOR is a prophet with the same belief as PREVIOUS PROPHETS either historically or epistemologically; I will denounce Christianity as false.


and to help u understand the gospel of Christ in case u are sincere.
Believing Jesus is God or believing in the Trinity as nothing to do with your salvation. U can believe Jesus is not God and reject Trinity but still make heaven. Those two theology are not the gatekeeper to heaven.
So repeating it here up and down has nothing to do with my salvation, it only depicts your own ignorance to think my Faith in God depends on them.