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| Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 9:26am On Jul 20 |
And God gave Solomon wisdom, exceedingly deep insight, and understanding beyond measure, like the sand on the seashore. Solomon’s wisdom was greater than that of all the men of the East, greater than all the wisdom of Egypt. He was wiser than all men—wiser than Ethan the Ezrahite, and wiser than Heman, Calcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol. And his fame spread throughout the surrounding nations. Solomon composed three thousand proverbs, and his songs numbered a thousand and five. 1 Kings 4:29-32 Yet Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines! His wives tempted him to follow other gods! So of what use was the wisdom God gave Solomon in blue above? It's either God didn't give him wisdom or the wisdom didn't last! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MightySparrow: 10:11am On Jul 20 |
You go by the name Antichrist, are you now AntiSolomon? ,![]() |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43am On Jul 20 |
AntiChristian:Of course Solomon has the wisdom surpassing all of his contemporaries but he became overconfident thinking he is now wise enough to overstep his boundaries: You must not form any marriage alliances with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods; then Jehovah’s anger will blaze against you, and he will swiftly annihilate you. Deuteronomy 7:3-4 Solomon concluded in his heart that if he is wiser than the fathers and all the wise men in the world there is no way their daughters can make him worship any other God and he was wrong. |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jul 20 |
AntiChristian:First you must understand that the God of the Torah is not the God of Jesus. It is The God of the Torah that gave Solomon great wisdom. Having many wives and concubines is not a sin to the God of the Torah. When Samson entered a prostitute the God of the Torah blessed him and gave him more power. Solomon's wives tempted him to follow other gods and he used the wisdom The God gave him to control those gods to work for him. It is the God of Jesus that says don't Marry many wives, don't have concubines but those preaching it are doing it in secret. |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 3:01pm On Jul 20 |
MaxInDHouse:Yes, So the wisdom Jehovah gave him couldn't deter him against the evil of the women! The women were wiser than the wisdom of God to Solomon! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:43pm On Jul 20 |
AntiChristian:Is wisdom not personal to a person? He gained whatever he gained. And from ecclesiastics we can see that the wisdom lasted, so, nothing here for you. |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25pm On Jul 20 |
AntiChristian:His problem is overconfidence! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kobojunkie: 3:36am On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:The Wisdom of YHWH of Israel is not a system meant to deter one. It is a combination of knowledge and understanding, and those who have it are freely able to use it as they will. That freedom to choose the way of wisdom or not remains even when one is blessed with wisdom.😒😒 The command that was given to all Israelites was that they trust and obey YHWH of Israel, and this command never changes. Wisdom is the law of YHWH. Solomon chose to disregard the law, despite having its wisdom. That was Solomon's choice. ![]() |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 9:03am On Jul 21*. Modified: 9:32am On Jul 21 |
Kobojunkie:You have just watered down the scripture you believe in. It wasn't only simply about wisdom but the gift includes: 1. Exceedingly deep insight and 2. Understanding beyond measure. I don't know why you guys are like this. Dtruthspeaker: |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 9:21am On Jul 21 |
MaxInDHouse:Nah! The Gift of Jehovah is the real Problem. 1. Wisdom 2. Exceedingly deep insight 3. Understanding beyond measure. No one can have all these three and commit idolatry and concubinage like that! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50am On Jul 21*. Modified: 10:09am On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:What you are missing is the fact that Solomon is born with imperfection so no gift of God in him can override that if Solomon himself is not extra careful with the gift!🙂 Do you know why most Bible readers say Jesus is God? Well it's simple because he carefully used God's gift and of course unlike all other humans Jesus was a perfect man. Jesus never allowed overconfidence to make him feel he's now bigger than temptations and Satan knew that no matter how perfect a man can be he is still vulnerable to sin if care is not taken. That's why Satan came to tempt Jesus. Solomon was given wisdom but he was imperfect unlike Jesus the greater Solomon! Luke 11:31 🙂 اِذْ قَا لَتِ الْمَلٰٓئِكَةُ يٰمَرْيَمُ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنْهُ ۖ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيْحُ عِيْسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَجِيْهًا فِى الدُّنْيَا وَا لْاٰ خِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِيْنَ "when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near." Q 3:45 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kobojunkie: 1:19pm On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:1. Please stop deflecting! 😒😒 The Wisdom of YHWH of Israel is not a system meant to deter one. It is a combination of knowledge and understanding, and those who have it remain freely able to use it as they will. That freedom to choose the way of wisdom or not remains even when one is blessed with wisdom.😒😒😒 2. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that those who possess wisdom are unable to turn away from God. Arguing that having wisdom of YHWH ought to mean the opposite amounts to engaging in ridiculousness.😒 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kukutente23: 1:54pm On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:What of the revelation God gave Muhammad Why didn't it stop him from eating poisoned meat from Jewish woman |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kukutente23: 1:59pm On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:Stop confusing yourself in a desperate bid to delegitimize the Bible Even your prophet referred you to the Bible multiple times to confirm is message and status Thus, it is virtually impossible for the Bible to be wrong and your prophet will not be termed a fraud The wisdom God gave Solomon is to enable him rule Israel and not to rid him of his freewill to either follow Yahweh the true God or go after other gods. Your question makes it sound like God rid Solomon of his freewill when he gave him wisdom. That's not how Yahweh operates It's either God didn't give him wisdom or the wisdom didn't last! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:31pm On Jul 21 |
Kukutente23:I was raised a Muslim and this is what makes me abandon the religion! Several times the Allah kept referring a man to go and confirm whatever the Allah says in the Bible {Q 21:105} but i was shocked seeing followers of the man who Allah referred to go and check the Bible speak against the Bible!😟 What Antichristian is trying to say is that the Bible is filled with errors and that is what their scholars always tells them simply because Muhammad couldn't convert the Jews and churches in his time he told his followers to hate, fight and kill both Jews and members of the churches anywhere they are found until they are forcefully converted to Islam. Q 9:29 So whenever i meet any Muslim i take my time to educate them respectfully no matter how difficult they may be unless such a person is not ready to listen. Meanwhile their Muhammad told them to seek the knowledge of God even if it will cost them to travel to the farthest part of the planet. I wonder why they're not thinking about it because if Muhammad has been given all the knowledge needed to worship God acceptably he could have said just as Jesus: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jul 21 |
MaxInDHouse:Correction: No one comes to the Father except through the word which He has commanded in the Original Torah. Deuteronomy 4:2: "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kukutente23: 5:21pm On Jul 21 |
MaxInDHouse:Claiming that the Bible is corrupt is the only way to escape scrutiny of Islam by biblical standards. Because if Islam is held to biblical scrutiny, the falsehood of Muhammad's prophecy and the plagiarism of the Qur'an becomes obvious For example, all the prophets in the Bible were fallible. God had reason to rebuke, correct, punish and even reject some prophets throughout the Bible. But we see that the Qur'an consistently exonerates Muhammad's failings and even attempts to give him primacy over all other prophets. Every of his misdeeds is given the stamp of approval via Qur'anic revelation even up to his claim to prophetic primacy. This is very obvious anti-biblical. Neither the Torah nor the Bible ever declares a prophet free from sin or immune to sin except Jesus Christ. Again, even Jesus had to take on the sin of the world in other to be put up as a ransom for humanity Also, Muhammad's view of Allah stands in stark contrast with the biblical view The most obvious evidence that the Qur'an plagiarised the Bible is the reference to Messiah as Jesus's name when we all know that Messiah is a title not a name. That's why the Qur'an couldn't explain in detail what Jesus's mission exactly. It mistook the mission for the name |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:10pm On Jul 21 |
MindHacker9009:Well God's word wasn't completed in the Torah that's why He told Moses that a prophet like him will later come and complete the message! Deuteronomy 18:18-19 Jesus did just that in the name of His father and God! John 17:6, 26 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:12pm On Jul 21 |
You've taken it all from my mouth!😟 Kukutente23: |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jul 21 |
MaxInDHouse:Deut. 18:18 says God will raise up a prophet like Moses and put words in his mouth, so where did God say the His words in the Torah are "incomplete" or that this prophet would "complete His words in the Torah"? That's an interpretation you're adding, not something God said. Can you show the wording that says His message is not complete? Also Deuteronomy 18:18-19 did not say God will send His son called Jesus Christ that will say “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Maximus692(m): 7:01pm On Jul 21 |
MindHacker9009:If the messages are completed in Torah why sending another prophet like Moses nah? Please stop engaging me if you have nothing tangible to say joo!🥱 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by TenQ: 11:57pm On Jul 21 |
AntiChristian:Solomon was so wise that he died standing for almost one full year and surprisingly, no one knew he had died! What a miracle! Some ignorant people do not know that humans have the capacity to override their knowledge and wisdom and choose death rather than life. You think that those who take Colorado are not aware of the danger to their wellbeing!? SMH! The self induced concussion through banging the head on the ground daily can surely make an educated man ignorant |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 5:03am On Jul 22 |
TenQ:When intelligent guy's discuss let those who are short upstairs keep mute! Anyone can die anywhere and at anytime! You're just bringing the same excuse as others. Just as holy spirit empowered Samson, Samson will still go meet harlot and holy spirit will look away! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 5:08am On Jul 22 |
Kukutente23:The revelation God gave Prophets can't stop them from dying! John the baptist was beheaded as a birthday gift while Jesus was alive according to the Bible. Why can't Jesus stop his death? And why didn't your Jesus not die? I don't know why you need to change the topic to your own and mention me many times! Are you manifesting again? |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 5:19am On Jul 22 |
Kobojunkie:Abeg o! I created the thread and I'm still discussing the gifts of wisdom, understanding and knowledge YHWH gave Solomon. How am I deflecting? I think you're the one deflecting by going off the thread topic. I agree with you. Those who have been given a head may decide not to use it. Solomon was given wisdom, extreme understanding and immense knowledge. But all these was defeated by some ungodly women! Just like Eve did make Adam eat apple. I think this is the reason God has no mother/daughter in the Bible but only father and son! Women are despicable. ![]() |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kobojunkie: 5:31am On Jul 22 |
AntiChristian:Your delusions regarding the gifts have nothing to do with the gifts themselves. 😒😒 2. So, never mind that Adam and Solomon were both held fully responsible for their actions and choices; you would rather walk away believing that shifting blame is the necessary thing to do? And some people wonder why they say many will never learn? 🥱🥱 The category Sons of YHWH of Israel includes the daughters of YHWH; they are all regarded as sons because there are no separate terms and conditions that apply to one gender versus the other. They are gendered as one, implying one law for all. 😒😒😒 |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by AntiChristian(op): 6:17am On Jul 22 |
Kobojunkie:I think it does! Those gifts were overstated in the Bible. Biblically, Solomon was just wise, forget other gifts. 2. So, never mind that Adam and Solomon were both held fully responsible for their actions and choices; you would rather walk away believing that shifting blame is the necessary thing to do? And some people wonder why they say many will never learn? 🥱🥱It's unbelievable that the wisest, most knowledgeable and understanding person in the Bible could be tempted to commit idolatry! Just as his father was tempted to murder and adultery despite him frolicking with the holy spirit. It's amazing. So when Jesus became man why didn't he follow these men's ways as a man? The category Sons of YHWH of Israel includes the daughters of YHWH; they are all regarded as sons because there are no separate terms and conditions that apply to one gender versus the other. They are gendered as one, implying one law for all. 😒😒😒I don't think any daughter was specifically called sons in the Bible. The word was never used to include women except the general sense maybe. No woman was singly referred to as son of God except men! Son of God! Son of man! Not Daughter of God! Daughter of woman! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by TenQ: 7:47am On Jul 22 |
AntiChristian:Who told the story about Solomon who died standing on his feet for almost a year with no one noticing? Did your prophet copy it from Jewish children's bedtime stories and put it in the Qur'an? Do you think that a man whose internal organs are washed by an apparition with the water of Zamzam's and had it installed with a dish of wisdom decided to include this Jewish children bedtime stories and insert it in the Qur'an is showing any wisdom here? Secondly, who mentioned the use of Colorado? None. So, answer my question and stop fleeing as usual. Some ignorant people do not know that humans have the capacity to override their knowledge and wisdom and choose death rather than life. FREEDOM OF CHOICE IS DIFFERENT FROM WISDOM! Let me give you an EXAMPLE! A certain Wise man did Ablution in a small pool where the Village dead dogs, kitchen and bathroom waste and such were dumped. He claimed that NOTHING makes water impure! Do you think that this man is NOT wise? Sunan an-Nasa'i 326 It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said: "It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'" |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Kukutente23: 7:53am On Jul 22 |
AntiChristian:If the revelation can't stop them from dying, killing, raping and even robbing innocent caravan why do you demand that the wisdom God gave Solomon should stop him from following other gods? Why do you place a moral bar on the wisdom given to Solomon that the revelation given to Muhammad does not meet as well? Jesus did not stop the death of John the Baptist because he was not a political leader. He did not come to get into conflict with political authorities. Instead he came to establish a new way to God. This is also why he laid down his life to take it again when he was taken before the roman political leaders. This is why Christianity can be a peaceful religion because the founder did not advocate nor practice civil uprising, insurrection, treason or levying war against political groups or leaders. All these are present in Islam under the heading of jihad. It is why you have Islamic terrorism till today. The question now is why the revelation to Muhammad did not include warning him about Islamic terrorism that his religion will become synonymous with. It seems the revelation was not perfect! |
| Re: Solomon's Wisdom, Marriage, Concubinage And Idolatry! by Nobody: 8:02am On Jul 22*. Modified: 10:10am On Jul 22 |
Maximus692:You are the one who should stop engaging with the Torah if you cannot accept what God has commanded in it. So, when Jesus Christ said He would send a Comforter (John 14:16), He was also saying that the Comforter would come and complete His work. But now you don't believe when Islam says Muhammad is the Comforter Jesus Christ promised. The questions you are avoiding are: 1. Where did God say in Deuteronomy 18:18–19 that His word is not complete? 2. Where did God say that He would send His Son, called Jesus Christ, to come and complete His words and that will say “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6 Read the Torah again: Deuteronomy 4:2: "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." Deuteronomy 18:18-19 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. |
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