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| Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by Islie(op): 7:37am On Jul 21 |
The Nigerian National Petroleum Company Limited has insisted that it supplied all available crude oil cargoes allocated under the Federal Government’s naira-for-crude initiative to the Dangote Petroleum Refinery, saying there had been no withholding on its part.https://punchng.com/oil-cargoes-meant-for-naira-for-crude-deal-supplied-to-dangote-nnpc/
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| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by SmartPolician: 7:49am On Jul 21 |
Who will believe this useless government over Dangote refinery officials? It's extremely difficult to believe a government that thrives on lies, deceits and propaganda. Thank God that the entire country doesn't completely depend on Dangote. If that was the case, we would've returned to the era of fuel scarcity by now. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:10am On Jul 21 |
LOL...the problem with the reporting is the belief that selling crude in naira means cheaper fuel prices at the pump. When I saw people rejoicing at the naira for crude story, I just laughed and laughed and laughed. One of the biggest mistakes that Gowon ever did was to introduce subsidy. Because it made us forget that things cost money. As a result now that it has gone (except for the dodgy NNPC subsides that they pay themselves to keep prices lower than the private sector)...Nigerians are suddenly waking up to the fact that things cost money. Honestly, when you tell people that you have to pay market price for a product so that the people who are involved in bringing you the product can eat too, and live normal lives, they will call you APC supporter. As if APC has a monopoly on sane thinking economics (they do not, with all the corruption and the electricity subsidy that they introduced that does not work because they are running away from truth). The fact is, naira for crude is just like me saying that putting lipstick on a dog makes it a Miss Universe contestant. No it does not. It just means that crude is sold in the naira equivalent of the dollar. Which can change anyway. But Nigerians want to do self deceit...and the press aids and abbets them in that. We better wake up and stop believing that there is some magic money tree that can produce enough money to subsidsze fuel to N100 per liter. We lost four refineries because we used the money that would have paid for their upkeep and maintenance, and upgrade to pay for subsidy and for free government jamboree programmes like PTF and SUREP and later on NPOWER and whatever. There is no where in the world where anything is cheap. I will say it even if na Peter Obi wey remove subsidy, or Atiku. NOthing where anything is cheap. Either you accept that, or you keep quiet. It's effing effing life. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by AderonkeOlaniyi(f): 8:19am On Jul 21 |
Nigeria under Gbola Tilumbu is a total disaster. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by Enddy50ty(m): 8:20am On Jul 21 |
Dangote the monopolistic billionaire that Nigeria has to constantly contend with. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by AderonkeOlaniyi(f): 8:20am On Jul 21 |
nairalanda1:Make we hear word! Which subsidy removal? Where are the benefits of the subsidy removal? |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by tiswell(m): 8:21am On Jul 21 |
By the time this man is done with Naija govt.and Nigerians. Everywhere go first blurr ![]() |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by bewla(m): 8:22am On Jul 21 |
Islie:very soon the cable will be boosted and will be free to enjoy our Nigeria |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by YesDaddyTill203: 8:24am On Jul 21 |
AderonkeOlaniyi:Fake Aderonke, we know your type. You go wail and cry till 2031. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by AderonkeOlaniyi(f): 8:25am On Jul 21 |
YesDaddyTill203:Don't tell me, I already know. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by WorkTheTalk(m): 8:27am On Jul 21 |
Same NNPCL that is a funnel for Nigeria treasury looters, who could not manage refineries for decades after receiving billions of dollars as maintenance fee cannot be trusted to fully support Dangote refinery. Fully supporting Dangote refinery means less money for them to loot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqmuBmL2kF8?si=CcnHw4lxfvUNPUf4 |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by iwaeda: 8:27am On Jul 21 |
And Dangote is selling to Nigeria in dollars. ![]() |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by sekeyso(m): 8:28am On Jul 21 |
We don't care what goes on behind the scenes, all we want is to see fuel pump price dropped. The only country where it's government is dealing wickedly with the citizens. We've the crude, now we have the refinery yet the products are still costly as imported ones. Who cursed this nation? Is it not yet time for this country to work for it's population? We're sorry to whoever we offended in this country, let this afflictions be lifted and let the citizens breathe a sigh of relief at least for a time. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:32am On Jul 21 |
AderonkeOlaniyi:The fact that we no longer have routine scarcity. That is what people like GEJ saw, but you guys went to Ojota to tell him no. And that is what the governments and the IMF told you over the decades, but you guys kept on saying no I can tell you of one benefit of subsidy retention. 4 refineries lost, billions stolen, and a large contribution to our debt. Forget politics, forget APC or PDP, or obi or tinubu. Consumption subsides always end up costing the economy more than benefiting it. Or you want to tell me that you were enjoying under Buhari when he kept subsidy, or that the economy under tinubu improved when he broiught back subsidy for some months? Things cost money And before you start, fck APC. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:33am On Jul 21 |
iwaeda:Because he is a businessman. Not because he is running a charitable organisation. Trying to run fuel sales like a charity, which you seem to support, is what cost us four refineries. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nwirinedu(m): 8:33am On Jul 21 |
NNPCL signed an agreement to supply crude to dangote for fuel production. They were to supply a volume that covers up to 70 percent of Dangotes crude needs, they reneged on that agreement, they now said they will sell crude in naira to him, they also reneged on that agreement. NNPCL cannot meet that agreement because the mortgaged future crude oil production for loans from IMF and other countries, this took place before the current administration btw. That is why Dangote is buying crude abroad and now selling in dollars, off course the price will be higher, but that is not the point. NNPCL should have refurbished it's refineries and encouraged the building of private refineries, they didn't because importing is more profitable. We aren't even getting good PM's we are getting blended PMS , ethanol and SRG, those of you who bought petrol 10 years ago know the color is light red or pink, and not the orange or near yellow one we are getting today. There is no reason to be importing fuel or crude oil today as we have it, it is being stolen. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:34am On Jul 21 |
sekeyso:At whose expense? You want us to end up losing refining capacity to the point that we have to import 90% of our fuel, and then spend billions of dollars subsidising it so that you can have cheap fuel? Beforeyou shout looting...consumption subsides were one of the biggest looting avenues by the elite. It was not in your interest. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by Zionmdde: 8:34am On Jul 21 |
nairalanda1:Now kindly shut it. You don't go about writing lengthy nonsense on what you know nothing about Nothing dangote buys from government that he doesn't get a special subsidy on. Right from when it was just cement. He buys crude at cheaper prices that's why private companies operating in Nigeria will not sell their products to him Now keep quiet, sometimes it pays to do so |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:36am On Jul 21 |
YesDaddyTill203:You apc guys supported subsidy retention until your man was in power. And you kept quiet when he brought it back again. And you support subsides on electricity, which are killing our power sector. So, sit down. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by ariesbull: 8:36am On Jul 21 |
How did we even get to this level of low... And what I find confusing is that some people still want it to continue! I really don't get it |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:37am On Jul 21 |
Zionmdde:Sorry mac. Things cost money, If it pains you , you can take some panadol. I am not repsonible for your pains. Consumption subsides cost us four refineries. This government briefly bringing them back also added to our debt. If you want the subsidy back, go and meet your senator to pass the laws for it. LOL. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:38am On Jul 21 |
ariesbull:It started when subsidy removal was proposed in the late 1980's and you guys said no. Here we are. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by sekeyso(m): 8:42am On Jul 21 |
nairalanda1:That's the lie the ruling elite sold to you. Fuel subsidy was never the problem but the incompetence of government in the management. Now the citizens are paying for it's government incompetence as with everything our government is managing. Now that we're not paying subsidies, how has that improved anything? Instead the reverse is the case. If you objective enough you'd know. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by Zionmdde: 8:43am On Jul 21 |
nairalanda1:I have said before keeping it shut sometimes pay Dangote is buying crude at a cheaper rate, not only crude but I won't mention some others. Go and ask why IOCs and NOCs won't sell crude to him. Why is it only Nnpc's share of crude they are giving him Stop speaking long grammar on what you know nothing about. Your likes keep defending dangote as per your savior, while the man is harvesting his trillions at the expense of the country's wealth |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by chidiokay: 8:44am On Jul 21 |
SmartPolician:As much as i agree with you to a large extend, the presence of Dangote is why we can never have scarcity in Nigeria, Now i understand Dangote better, Nnpc are playing smarrt, they expliot Dangote by supplying less crude to the refinery just so they would have more to export and recieve Dollar here is the scam in Naira for crude ... they supply dangote e.g 15% crude and ploy buy 30% PMs so Nnpcc n marketers are enjoying more of crude Dangote bought in $$ ..that is the scam dangote want to stop if you supply me 15% crude in Naira, in return you must get 15% pms back in naira, what i buy in naira is what i supply in naira ...no more take advantage of naira crude what ever reservations we have about Dangote, on a deep processing you will realize he is just a business man, is job is not to look out for Us when the govt you all vote are busy frauding the system |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by runsapp(f): 8:45am On Jul 21 |
Make dangote de calm down small abeg which one be this one again. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by runsapp(f): 8:46am On Jul 21 |
Dangote need to calm down abeg Wetin be this one. We de use dollar for Nigeria ? |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by chidiokay: 8:51am On Jul 21 |
Enddy50ty:According to fact Dangote is not the only Bilionaire in Nigeria, why are other billionaire avoiding to build a standard Refinery if not for Dangote, You know we could have thougt Refinery is the only LUXURY nigeria can't afford if dangote is acting Monopoly, We gave him that license, Do you know how many private jet we have in Nigeria, instead of complain Dangote is this Dangote is that, why can't you push your govt to build a National refinery, that singular act put Dangote in line .. very simple |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by DeOTR: 8:53am On Jul 21 |
Islie:The honorable thing to do now is to show paperwork that confirms what you actually supplied and put them to shame, abi you guys just dump things at their doorstep and turn back? You'll later realize that someone in the NNPC has been giving Dangote half portion, while selling the other half in dollars. If Nigeria is a country, someone should be on their way to jail as we speak, but no, they'll sweep it under the rug. |
| Re: Oil Cargoes Meant For Naira-for-crude Deal Supplied To Dangote – NNPC by nairalanda1(m): 8:54am On Jul 21 |
sekeyso:If fuel subsidy was never the problem how did Venezuela lose 800000 bpd from the 1970's to the early 00's in refining capacity when they had no sanctions from the USA then and when they had fuel subsides galore.? The thing with fuel subsides is, their cost can change with the changes in the oil prices. If oil prices go high, cost of subsidy can go high . So if government budgeted 5 trillion naira for subsidy in one year, and oil price increases that year push up subsidy costs to ten trillion or more, where is the money going to come from? Other parts of the budget. And keep in mind that we have to pay back loans and pay for other things too, and save some money, so that means that subsidy payments would come from other parts of the budget...like healthcare, education , and so forth..meaning more loans, and more debts. Also, the vast majority of government revenue comes from oil. IN countries with fuel subsides, most of the money from subsides comes from taxing the populace, and the subsides do not cover every one in the first place. Oil rich countries like Libya and Saudi have tiny populations and produce far more oil than we do, that';s why they can make subsides work And then the smuggling. SMuggling of subsidised fuel is done by everyone from the big man to the small man. THAT PUSHES SUBSIDY COSTS UP. At the end, government has to take more money to pay for subsidy from other sectors of the budget...more loans...debt. And before you blast Nigeria for not dealing with smuggling..smuggling is persistent in Iran, was persistent in Libya, and in venezuela and saudi. Ghaddafi when he was alive used to bomb smuggliers with his airforce jets. The smugglers would just hide, and then resume when the coast was clear. (Smuggling happens now, but not at government expense, that is the thing). It is like you don't realize that this thing called refining petrol costs a lot of money. We also cannot build refineries from scratch, and if refinery breaks down, we have to bring in spare parts from abroad, and experts from abroad., and if it has to be upgraded, same story. That is why countries that have consumption subsides always run into problem, unless the population is small enough to make it make sense. Problem with subsides is simple. Say you bake bread, you expect to HAVE a production cost of N2000 per loaf, you got to sell it at N2800 a loaf to make it work. Government comes in and says you should sell it at N200 a loaf and pays you subsides of N2600 per loaf. Problem is that year, cost of wheat rose and so forth, and all of a sudden your production cost rose to N4000 per loaf. Would you still accept being paid N2600 per loaf meaning you lose N1400 per loaf, or would government have to start spending extra money ie taking money from other parts of the budget to make sure you don't lose business. You guys have enjoyed subsidy for ages that you have forgotten that business works by a harsher set of rules. |
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