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| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by regenerateman(m): 8:43am On Jul 23 |
FSBoperator:The world has gone passed this stage. Most of these countries has underground tunnels that can accommodate millions. When there is nukes, people will run to the underground tunnels. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 8:44am On Jul 23 |
UrVillageChief:Oga, sorry sir. if I may ask, on what basis do you postulate these hypotheses? if i can make a wild guess..... western propaganda or Holywood movies ![]() Why can’t we just not hand over nukes to Muslims then? These Middle easterners are volatile people and I won’t be surprised if the next nuclear attack starts in the Middle East.Would it not be better to advocate for no nuke at all for all. Or why do you think it is good for some to have but not good for others. For your information, the craze to acquire nuke is to deter bullies to wade off. See small NK who dares them after got a nuke? If Russia was a Muslim middle eastern country, it would have nuked Ukraine a long time ago. If Israel was an Arab country, Iran would have been nuked long ago. Most of these ME countries don’t even have well-structured government. They mostly practice systems of government where single individuals have absolute powers and authorities to do and undo.Sorry to ask again, Pakistan have nuke and it is a Jew country I guess. More interesting Pak has been in constant logger head with their neighbour India and recently Afgans but have still not use it. I guess it is because they are a Jew country going by your hypothesis. If i remember my history correctly, the only country known to have used a WMD on another country the the almighty, always upright, world police the US of A, the gold standard and SI unit of a just county ![]() The world can not say much on what Russia id doing to Ukraine today because the God's Chosen people have done far worst in Gaza, so it will be hypocritical of them. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by regenerateman(m): 8:47am On Jul 23 |
stanluiz:The nukes is for civilian purposes. It can be used to generate electricity. However, my fear is that tomorrow the Saudis will start nuclear war heads. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by runsapp(f): 9:17am On Jul 23 |
But Iran can’t have them but only us can say who has them lol |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by Heffalump(m): 9:53am On Jul 23 |
Flangelo12:Many of you are babies in global politics. Russia took nuke to Iran to destabilize the US/ Israel influence in the middle east. They said no, Iran cannot have such a lethal weapon. You guys said why not? America is now trying to balance the equation by arming Saudi in the same format. Now you've turned your blame on America. Are you ok? |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by UrVillageChief: 10:14am On Jul 23 |
WithX:I don’t even know where to start addressing your loads of gibberish but I’ll try as much as I possibly can. Going by this your “ofuitic” logic, let’s start giving nukes to volatile countries like Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq since “shebi others have them”😂😂 Question 1: The reason why some countries are allowed to own while others aren’t is because some had already built it while others secretly did (e.g Pakistan). Israel for instance, never signed the NPT while Iran did but now backtracking. I should seriously not be taking you seriously for not knowing this. So your first question is wrong. Countries were/are never allowed to own them and today, if any country must build them, it must be strictly for civilian purposes and as such, it mustn’t be raised above that threshold. This was what Iran promised to do until findings later showed it had already gone past that threshold while receiving Obama’s free money. If you weren’t an aboa, you wouldn’t be expecting any right-thinking person to allow Iran of all countries to own them. Did you know that Iran is the only country that openly teaches even its children and younger generation that it is a religious obligation to exterminate other people (The Jews and Americans)? Did you know it is the only country in the world that is actively gunning for building nukes and making its intentions about them crystal clear? Iran is the only country in the world that openly preaches the annihilation of other countries and civilizations (the Jews and Americans) Now you want us to hand nukes to such a country all because of your religious affiliations with them? Like seriously? You genuinely want us to hand nukes to a country that is already openly constantly chanting “death to America”, “death to Israel” even now that they don’t have the weapons? What do you think would happen if they eventually have them and they are being beaten wotoporiusly by let’s say, the US or Israel, you think they would hesitate to use them? Please retighten those loose screws!🙏🏽 My friend, if any country must be allowed to own them at all, it shouldn’t be a volatile, hot-headed and shot-fused one!. It shouldn’t be a country whose aim of building them is to be able to fight off its bullies. All the other countries that own them today can fight actual wars without going nuclear, Iran can’t! That’s the difference my friend Now, about Pakistan, Pakistan isn’t using it on India simply because it is aware of the ugly consequences, and not because it doesn’t want to If it ever tries that nonsense, trust me, before nightfall, Pakistan will become ancient ruins. Also, Pakistan is about the most stable powerful Muslim country in Asia and the ME as it stands today. This country can be trusted with nukes to a large extent because it has proven that it is mature enough to own and handle them. Do you now realize how silly you sound? At least, we don’t hear “death to America” or “death to India/Israel” on the streets of Islamabad like it’s being sang in Tehran This same thing is also true about the people’s republic of Korea. NK isn’t seen as a threat to any human race, religion or creed because they aren’t religiously radicalized to think that there are some human races that need to be exterminated in order to gain religious dominance The NK isn’t known for sponsoring terrorists. Earlier before now, Iran used to deny sponsoring Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis rebel. It’s only now that they’ve stopped denying 🤣 Lastly, The only country that has ever used the WMD on another country, the US, being the world captain that they are, are now preaching and making sure that such a disaster never happens again by making sure that no hot-headed country is going to be allowed to own them. That’s actually very commendable of them. You are making it look as if they (the US) nuked another country just after preventing others from building them😂 Bro, before you defend Iran any further, always remember that you are supporting a country that actually wants to achieve the goal of having the potential to turn our world into a bed of chaos , we are never letting that happen. Instead, we will happily send you to your virgins in droves! |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by Flangelo12: 10:50am On Jul 23 |
Heffalump:Pulling fables out of your backside. The official story of the US is that Iran is enriching nuclear materials close to an effective bomb purity. The same US has been on a campaign against Iran for over 50 years because they refuse to bow down. You want us all to accept that Iran MUST bow down. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by fortunez1(m): 10:53am On Jul 23 |
The Truth behind this is Iran , this could put Iran in there peaceful place because balancing the equation would mean Saudi having t he re own nuke too indirectly since Israel has , Iran might have already but not tested , S.A should also. No cause for alarm because IRGC remains rogue and ain't supposed to be trusted with Atomic weapons, they are so extreme and value povery and death much more than love . |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 4:41pm On Jul 23 |
UrVillageChief:You can start by reasoning with your God given conscience devoid of any propaganda. I ask again will it not be better and safer for no one to have it and all that already does should destroy it?. You and I are neighbours and we usually have fight, if some by some chance you heard that I have a Gun, be fair, would you not do all in your power to have a gun too?. You can see that your logic that it is ok for some people to have it for whatever circumstances, but not ok for others even when they know their neighbour with it can decide to Gazaed them. Question 1: [b]The reason why some countries are allowed to own while others aren’t is because some had already built it while others secretly did (e.g Pakistan). [/b]Israel for instance, never signed the NPT while Iran did but now backtracking. I should seriously not be taking you seriously for not knowing this. So your first question is wrong. Countries were/are never allowed to own them and today, if any country must build them, it must be strictly for civilian purposes and as such, it mustn’t be raised above that threshold. This was what Iran promised to do until findings later showed it had already gone past that threshold while receiving Obama’s free money.At bolded, so when did the whole world come together to appoint a world police?. and who are those that decide which country to have or not? Plus till today have Israel admitted having nukes? You can not say my question is wrong if North Korea can have it despite the treats from the US of A. Do you notice the threats stopped just immediately after they tested it. If you weren’t an aboa, you wouldn’t be expecting any right-thinking person to allow Iran of all countries to own them.I do not expect any country to have a weapon capable of such irreversible damage to humanity. When Nagasaki and Hiroshima was attacked with an atomic bomb, all within range were affected including plant and animals. The bomb will not pick out only those active in the war, it will ravage a whole existence. So why keep such in your arsenal for decades if you have no intention of using it? So again will it not be better to stop all these selective acquisition of nuke just because some country have good media to sweet talk their justification of having it while others should not. Did you know that Iran is the only country that openly teaches even its children and younger generation that it is a religious obligation to exterminate other people (The Jews and Americans)? Did you know it is the only country in the world that is actively gunning for building nukes and making its intentions about them crystal clear? Iran is the only country in the world that openly preaches the annihilation of other countries and civilizations (the Jews and Americans) Now you want us to hand nukes to such a country all because of your religious affiliations with them? [/b] Like seriously? You genuinely want us to hand nukes to a country that is already openly constantly chanting “death to America”, “death to Israel” even now that they don’t have the weapons? What do you think would happen if they eventually have them and they are being beaten wotoporiusly by let’s say, the US or Israel, you think they would hesitate to use them?No I do not know. You can help me with some verifiable links (pls not western or isreal controlled media) to cure my ignorance. I am a student ready to learn and not base my opinion on beer parlour gist. What my history book has made me know is the fact that of all country that develop the weapon, only the US of A has have the need to use it on another independent country. That is fact that is not base on emotions or religious phobia. Please retighten those loose screws!🙏🏽I definitely will. Thanks My friend, if any country must be allowed to own them at all, it shouldn’t be a volatile, hot-headed and shot-fused one!. It shouldn’t be a country whose aim of building them is to be able to fight off its bullies. All the other countries that own them today can fight actual wars without going nuclear, Iran can’t! That’s the difference my friendThis seems to me you are referring to Isreal sir. or am I mistaking, in less than a year now they are the only country I know to have established theatres or war in more than 4 fronts. They attacked Iran first unprovoked first on the 12 days war and then the current one. Please tell me (again not western propaganda) just one country, just one that Iran have taken or used their volatile, hot-headed and shot-fused . as you put it on. I am ready to learn sir (pls do not come with the sponsor terrorist rhetoric, its stale already) Now, about Pakistan,So the post already changed, it is no more Muslim country again (because i can give you more examples) it is not knowing the consequences. that is fine. Now my question is what tells you that Iran will not be aware of the Ugly consequences Do you now realize how silly you sound?Yes I may sound silly to you just because I do not just say YES to what US said. So just saying that is a justification to attack them right?. So Venezuelans was also chanting that before US attacked them. (oh sorry silly me again it was because of drug cartels) Lastly, The only country that has ever used the WMD on another country, the US, being the world captain that they are, are now preaching and making sure that such a disaster never happens again by making sure that no hot-headed country is going to be allowed to own them. That’s actually very commendable of them. You are making it look as if they (the US) nuked another country just after preventing others from building them😂Pls do not change the goal post the discussion cantered on which country will use it, and history have shown that only US of A has, no other country only USA. Oh I see they could not preach to the Europeans, they could not preach to North Korea, China and Russia. and at the bolded, so only cool headed countries like Israel, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia (already being in a cool headed talk with Ukraine) can have it just because the US of A says so. its Ok. Bro, before you defend Iran any further, always remember that you are supporting a country that actually wants to achieve the goal of having the potential to turn our world into a bed of chaos , we are never letting that happen. Instead, we will happily send you to your virgins in droves!Oga I defend no country, they are all the same, or let me use the word you like most, they are all terrorist. because non of the elite that started the fight will suffer it. It is innocent citizen sent to war and those that bombs are thrown on that will loose their lives and livelihood. So you see the best is for no one to have it, and if any one see reason to have it, then all can have it if they want to too. That is fairness. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 4:47pm On Jul 23 |
Heffalump:Oga you can make your point without using derogatory statement on someone you do not know. Now you that knows global politics, kindly provide a reference to the bolded. Ok if we are even to assume the bolded is true, so why will US be attacking Iran for same thing it is advocating for the Sauds? Distabilize middle east just because any other country there desire to have nuke just like Isreal to deter them ![]() |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by UrVillageChief: 6:01pm On Jul 23 |
WithX:Ogbeni, I don’t have the ample time to continue engaging and indulging your long epistles. Let me quickly address your first paragraphs. It is simply almost impossible to denuclearize the countries that already own them. Imagine the US or Russia denuclearizing only to later realize that either of them didn’t fully comply? These are two powerful countries that can stand toe-to-toe with each other even if nukes aren’t part of the equation unlike in the case of Iran Vs the USA. Removing nukes from either side would automatically turn the other into a big sitting duck. The mistake you keep making as evident in your last statement is that, you’re still making it look as if these neighbors of yours can’t gazaed you even without the gun they own😁. The mistake you keep making is that you keep ignoring the fact that these said neighbors of yours can actually comfortably smoke you even without the guns. My friend, you are actually the only person who wants the gun in order to be able to fight him, he doesn’t need it to fight you. Now the reason why these neighbors of yours can’t fully comply with discarding this gun is because he knows to well that you are definitely going behind his back to buy one since everyone knows you can’t compete fairly with him in a fist fight If you are trying to say that Iran wouldn’t build it if other countries decided to all destroy their nuclear arsenals, remember that this same Iran was secretly and silently enriching their uranium even after promising not to. They were even being paid billions to not and little did the world know that it was actively working to have them built until they were caught. So if you’re the US, would you offer to completely denuclearize after witnessing that act of treachery? Would you agree to fully denuclearize knowing fully well that unlike you, countries like Iran can’t fight wars fairly without nukes? You must be very silly if you think I will drop my gun and start engaging someone who doesn’t stand a chance in a fist fight with me while knowing fully well it’s game over for me if he goes to get that same gun behind my back. Lastly and I keep repeating this as this has been my point from the start: [b]all the countries that have nukes today can fight actual wars without having to use nukes, Iran is the only country that wants it in order to be able to fight fairly and this is something we aren’t going to ever allow and that’s final! Simply put, Iran is the underdog that thinks owning nukes is the only way it can fight off its enemies. Can the US engage even the non-nuclear state of Russia or China in a war? So my friend, stop making it look as if nuke is the only thing the US has over Iran🙏🏽 |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 6:51pm On Jul 23 |
UrVillageChief:Bros forget all these explain tire. I ask again give me just one instance where Iran has started a war as the aggressor. Just one pls. I can give you about 20 that he US of A has. and about Iran not being able to fight without the nuke, they do not have one presently but they are still withstanding the Isreal/USA war despite years of sanctions. And your first statement, I sure you know you are not being truthful with your self. Either i fit beat you or not, once you have a gun that gives you an undue advantage already. That will deter me from bullying you even if I have a gun myself. we just have to be fair and reasonable without being emotional coz of propaganda against a nation who have not been aggressive in any form over the years. And the funny thing is that it is the aggressor turned world police brandishing the propaganda Good day. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by UrVillageChief: 7:17pm On Jul 23 |
WithX:Bro, come off this emotional outburst already and stop making it seem as if Iran is not shooting back at the US simply because the US has nukes. Seeing your silly comments, someone who’s not conversant with international politics would erroneously think that nukes are what the US is using in bombarding Iran at the moment and Iran can’t attack back since it doesn’t have any🤣 No, that’s not the case! Iran can’t start a war as the aggressors to even start with because they are underdogs. Underdogs can never be aggressors, they can only be silent aggressors. In this case, Iran is a silent aggressor because wanting to build the weapon in order to be able to fight fairly is already an act of aggression. It would have been so much understandable if nukes were all what the US has been using to threaten them into submission but no, nobody is threatening them with nukes. Stop lying to yourself, you aren’t having this conversation with kids, you are actually having it someone old enough to birth you. The US isn’t attacking Iran with nukes, Iran should fight back without nukes too if it’s capable. Having nukes doesn’t make you automatically invincible, it only means that you can decide to go suicidal and this is the reason why smaller countries are never going to be allowed to have them because these weapons that nobody wants to use will ultimately be their go-to, first and final defense. Nobody is nuking Iran and as such, Iran should return the blows it’s getting from the US right now in kind. Again, we aren’t gifting nukes to suicidal, volatile and weak countries because they will have no other means to fight fairly except to use them. You are being ignored. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by PulaPower: 8:30am On Jul 24 |
FSBoperator:I dont really know much about this Islamic thing so I’ve got questions bro: What is Shiite? What is Sunni? What’s the difference? |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by Francis396: 1:28pm On Jul 24 |
osuofia2:OMO YOU BAM Russia back Iran America back Saudi Arabia it's a game of chess for the grandmasters. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by slickbak(m): 3:13pm On Jul 24 |
tnerro1:My brother, Israel is waiting for Saudi to enter the trap. Na trap o ![]() |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by slickbak(m): 3:17pm On Jul 24 |
tnerro1:My brother if Saudi Arabia has sense they should not do that deal. This deal is a trap. The same Israel and US will bomb them later. Israel dey laugh 4 corner |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by slickbak(m): 3:21pm On Jul 24 |
UrVillageChief:My brother, this deal is an excuse for Israel to attack Saudi Arabia in future. Israel dey laugh 4 corner. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 12:57am On Jul 25 |
UrVillageChief:Oga stay one place and stop contradicting yourself with emotional outburst with no iota of proof but only beer parlour gossip. You were the one that says Iran are terrorist and are very volatile, I aske you to prove it buy giving one instance when they have been the aggressor, Now you are confirming they are not the aggressor. So what gives you the right to say they will use the nuke if it is their procession when they have never for once been the aggressor. The US of A who has always been the aggressor and who with Israel attacked unprovoked can have it but the sleeping dog can not. You need to re-evaluate your sense of reasoning. I initially thought I was debating with someone who can substantiate its stance with evidence so that I can learn but never knew it was all based on western propaganda and what The almighty unpalatable US said about a country. For the record, you were not able to established that Iran was the aggressor, wo all the blabbing about using a nuke if they have it is not scientifically or logically proven except the US and Israel says so. Also, you have not been able to contradict the fact that it is only the US that have used the weapon of mass destruction on another county. No other country have ever done that so let it sink. You are entitle to your opinion if you do not want to learn, I will leave you to your ignorance and wish you well Shalom. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by UrVillageChief: 12:19pm On Jul 25 |
WithX:Pele my dear😂. So na that small English do your system like this? This is why we constantly urge you to embrace the western education. I know comprehension is not everyone’s strong suit but please try reading it over again, the answer to your confusion is hiding there. I choose my words very carefully to ensure zero contradiction. Clue: “silent”😂 Away from that, Iran has two options. Either to ditch its nuclear ambition and enjoy unmatched economic growth and financial freedom or to remain adamant and continue getting pounded by the US, the ball is in their court. So yes, them knowing what to do to ensure peace but choosing to fight a war they are bound to lose is what makes them the “silent” aggressors in this case. I don’t want to call them aggressors because that’s going to be a big exaggeration for such a spineless country😂. if no be say una head dey leak oil, how on earth is the country stopping another one from developing weapons that can destroy the world the aggressor? Those who already have them aren’t fighting wars using them (e.g Russia Vs Ukraine, Pakistan Vs India, North Korea Vs South, The US Vs Iran, Israel Vs Iran, Lebanon and Palestine. It’s only Iran that wants it in order to be able to fight fairly If this country called Iran could decide to hold the whole world hostage using what it has (the strait of Hormuz) and without minding the fact that its action is also affecting even his own supporters, what makes you think such a suicidal country would hesitate to use nukes if it had them? Will these nukes differentiate between we the sane ones and you the Iran’s supporters if detonated? We are not going to be gifting some volatile countries the ability to destroy our world all because of your religious affiliations with them. We are not gifting short-fused countries the weapons that are strictly meant to be handled by sane and stable countries and people. One thing will always be constant and that thing is that no hot-headed, volatile and unstable country will be allowed to have nukes and that is that. If you aren’t cool with that, book the next available flight to Tehran, your 72 virgins are waiting for you or don’t you want to enter Jannah like Ayatollah? You are being ignored now. |
| Re: US, Saudi Arabia Set to Announce Civilian Nuclear Agreement by WithX(m): 12:56am On Jul 29 |
UrVillageChief:Sorry it was my bad, I thought I was debating with someone intelligent. Now i overstand. Stay blessed. |
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