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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 2:21pm On Jul 23
raumdeuter:
There is a reason why many clubs and managers are not consistently playing 3ATB.

One it is largely a defensive formation since you have almost 7 defensive minded players on the field 3 CBs, 2 wing backs, 2 DM/CM which is 7 already. Many top clubs and their fans wont want to play a defensive style

Tactically the half spaces between the wide CB and the Wing back are notorious weak points as the wing back is usually too pulled away and the CB is not close enough
This formation overworks the wing backs while the middle CB is mostly chilling and his job is to mopup
In a midfield battle in most time you are outnumbered 3v2 by any 433 side. So beside your wingbacks, you overwork your 2 CMs which usually cracks unless you sit back so one of your CBs can step up to help without pulling him out of position and compromising the 3 defensive shape

Most importantly, the bulk of players in the past 50yrs and till today are raised in a 4 at the back system, So your pool of players who knw how to play the 3ATB system are usually very shallow and limited. right now maybe the clubs that play 3ATB consistently might not be up to 10 in the whole of Europe, So you will need to scout for your transfers among these 10 clubs otherwise buy from outside and now retool the players and retrain them
Since the new ownership, Chelsea has not had stability, all the managers who came won nothing tangible, except Maresca.

If 3 at the back will provide attacking football, stability and trophies. Make we kuku dy play am.

But I doubt Alonso will stick to strictly 3 at the back. He is too smart for that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 2:21pm On Jul 23
Double post
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 2:25pm On Jul 23
Bimmarlykay:
Very confused set, they'll start something they can't finish,its no longer FIFA, it's now Di Maria and Enzo,but na Messi get all record. grin

Airbere nack pics of those nonsense talks since 2014
grin grin grin
Them plenty ooo. But manage this one.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Capaldi: 2:48pm On Jul 23
Enzo5:
💯 butt hat inept Enrique has won UCL back to back
He still failed with the Spanish national team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by StarchAndBanga: 2:54pm On Jul 23
lordfalcao:
Since the new ownership, Chelsea has not had stability, all the managers who came won nothing tangible, except Maresca.

If 3 at the back will provide attacking football, stability and trophies. Make we kuku dy play am.


But I doubt Alonso will stick to strictly 3 at the back. He is too smart for that.
Well said.. The bolded is the koko
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Capaldi: 2:57pm On Jul 23
raumdeuter:
There is a reason why many clubs and managers are not consistently playing 3ATB.

One it is largely a defensive formation since you have almost 7 defensive minded players on the field 3 CBs, 2 wing backs, 2 DM/CM which is 7 already. Many top clubs and their fans wont want to play a defensive style

Tactically the half spaces between the wide CB and the Wing back are notorious weak points as the wing back is usually too pulled away and the CB is not close enough
This formation overworks the wing backs while the middle CB is mostly chilling and his job is to mopup
In a midfield battle in most time you are outnumbered 3v2 by any 433 side. So beside your wingbacks, you overwork your 2 CMs which usually cracks unless you sit back so one of your CBs can step up to help without pulling him out of position and compromising the 3 defensive shape

Most importantly, the bulk of players in the past 50yrs and till today are raised in a 4 at the back system, So your pool of players who knw how to play the 3ATB system are usually very shallow and limited. right now maybe the clubs that play 3ATB consistently might not be up to 10 in the whole of Europe, So you will need to scout for your transfers among these 10 clubs otherwise buy from outside and now retool the players and retrain them
Your understanding of formation is flawed.

* Most teams playing 4-3-3 always use a variation of 3 at the back. Formations are not static.

*You don't need special players to play 3-4-3 or it's variations.

* It's not a defensive formation. The coach implementing it is responsible for it's outlook.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 3:04pm On Jul 23
Capaldi:
He still failed with the Spanish national team.
were you one of those that advised Chelsea not to hire him that season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Neymar1095(m): 3:06pm On Jul 23
lordfalcao:
Another shalaye...

Argentina with Messi in 2022 world cup. Scored a total of 15 goals, Messi contributed 10. How many percent is that?

Multiple goals or assists from group stages, knockout to final.

21" Copa final, contributed to 9 out of 12 goals that Argentina scored. How many percent again?

Another multiple goals or assists in group and knockout games.

Na bag of cement di maria carried, definitely not messi
Can you show us any final Messi won without Di Maria. If Di Maria was available against Spain and scored as usual you would have also said it was Messi that delivered the trophy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 3:06pm On Jul 23
Hateevs na you make be go watch kerim Alajbegovic, read he is joining for 30 35m
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Carot: 3:09pm On Jul 23
Jamiuokolaa:
2014 WC final - Messi failed miserably

2026 WC final - Another Abysmal performance

Common denominator? Di Maria's absence!

Copa America triumphs - Di Maria with 2 MOTM performances.

Messi has been a monumental failure for Argentina...especially in finals with his GK stats
and you left out 2005 under 20 finales and 2008 Olympics where he registered an assist in the finals for the same maria in the finals you so glorify. i don't just understand this your disjointed analysis
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:09pm On Jul 23
nateevs:
This one don start again.
Garnacho’s dad is here.

Na every season dem dey ship your son out like Abiku grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Carot: 3:16pm On Jul 23
Ballzproblemm:
I did prefer we go big for nmecha .

Height+ ball carrying=gold mine
or manu kone. Ok you didn't watch him for france
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by spillo1: 3:24pm On Jul 23
Pair Alvarez and Martinez for that final and Argentina play better and possibly win that game against Spain. Instead they choose to carry a statue for 120mins. That's totally on them. They played for Messi glory rather than Argentinas glory and that's why they left empty handed and with tears.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by izzou(m): 3:32pm On Jul 23
Kikelomogbenga:
Akor Adams is not really serious for moving to Venezia. Very unserious player.
Was there a better option?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 3:35pm On Jul 23
All the best guys...

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo:
Person wey well go talk say Argentina left in tears .. Argentina wey win gold and silver .. in 2 editions consecutively.
If Cristiano see that 2nd place lasan . Na to call Michael Jackson from heaven come play for silver parade..Radarada grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 3:50pm On Jul 23
fredoooooo:
Person wey well go talk say Argentina left in tears .. you won gold and silver .. in 2 editions
If Cristiano see that 2nd place lasan . Na to call Michael Jackson from heaven come play for silver parade..Radarada grin cheesy grin cheesy
grin grin grin
Which silver lol. Start with bronze. World cup is too hard to win. It's the hardest competition ever and It's not for everyone.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 3:58pm On Jul 23
lordfalcao:
What we know is that the biggest world tournament that Argentina won in the last decades, Messi delivered from start to finish.
Messi and Argentina have been powerless without di Maria's influence in finals.

The times Messi was relied upon in Di Maria's absence, he failed Miserably.

For NT finals, Messi and goalkeeper stats be like 5 & 6.

They should've just handed him the gloves in those games

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 3:59pm On Jul 23
AirBere:
grin grin grin
Which silver lol. Start with bronze. World cup is too hard to win. It's the hardest competition ever and It's not for everyone.
cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by akwesenana: 5:10pm On Jul 23
Bimmarlykay:
Yes, Rodri is the senior man because he's literally the oldest, a Ballon d'Or winner, and their captain.

That said, All this Okoto Meow you're typing and posting won't help Rodri. Aside from goals and assists, Messi had every other thing over Müller. He even played better in the final compared to Müller. How can you liken it Rodri, someone Messi floored all-round. grin
Note that sofascore usually inflates Messi's ratings.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by akwesenana: 5:15pm On Jul 23
Bimmarlykay:
Yes, Rodri is the senior man because he's literally the oldest, a Ballon d'Or winner, and their captain.

That said, All this Okoto Meow you're typing and posting won't help Rodri. Aside from goals and assists, Messi had every other thing over Müller. He even played better in the final compared to Müller. How can you liken it Rodri, someone Messi floored all-round. grin
Same way aside from goals and assists Rodri had every other thing over Messi. 🤌
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by akwesenana: 5:24pm On Jul 23
andrewbaba44:
It’s not about being gentle jare

Messi fans no toxic like them

Their idolo and them no difference

Even if Messi had won the 2nd wc it won’t change anything from Ronaldo and his fans and he lost it

My biggest happiness in football remains Ronaldo will never smell close to a World Cup final .
Lol na only one fanbase dey wish death on person, still mock am when he lost an infant son.

I no mention the Mini-Musolini una dey form on top football opinions.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ballzproblemm: 5:31pm On Jul 23
Carot:
or manu kone. Ok you didn't watch him for france
IDK man
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ballzproblemm: 5:33pm On Jul 23
Emegha fit worry o,saw on Twitter he scored in our friendly,still early shall but everything is going too well ,who dey blackmail bluec0? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:48pm On Jul 23
A40:
Rodri does not need to provide an assist. That's not his role description. He created the second most chances. From DM position. Fraudsquets never did that
Yes,Sergio Busquet doesn't get subbed in a game Spain desperately need to win like Rodri was yanked off against Argentina.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by StarchAndBanga: 5:55pm On Jul 23
airmark:
Garnacho’s dad is here.

Na every season dem dey ship your son out like Abiku grin
Ur pikin Mumudueke way Assnal fans dey swear for every day, u no go talk about that one
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by akwesenana: 6:06pm On Jul 23

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by odizeey(m): 6:13pm On Jul 23
akwesenana:
Lol na only one fanbase dey wish death on person, still mock am when he lost an infant son.

I no mention the Mini-Musolini una dey form on top football opinions.
Same people still dey threaten to arrest person. 😃😃

The hypocrisy in their fanbase is crazy.

I'm just waiting for any of them to say ref this ref that in this coming season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 6:45pm On Jul 23
Alonso has been using 4231, hope he doesn't do a pitch on us and change when season starts

cc natev
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by akwesenana: 6:46pm On Jul 23
Ororo don fund Muller 99 million Kuwait dinar.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:29pm On Jul 23
El oh el

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann:
Lacroix deal at the final stages.

We're moving at a lovely pace
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