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akwesenana:
Lol na only one fanbase dey wish death on person, still mock am when he lost an infant son.

I no mention the Mini-Musolini una dey form on top football opinions.

You need to own a mirror

Ellexy:
You need to own a mirror

Lol. Maybe you're referring to the original poster.

So Michael Emenalo get pikin wey dey ball for academy. Landon, he apparently started both behind closed doors friendly matches so far, and Xabi seems to be impressed.

18 yo left back

Aside Portugal ,another country I was happy not winning this wc was France ,not because i hate them but because of how Ronaldo fans moved on from Portugal to them

They failed in all the support they made ,I also remember many of them writing off Spain against France and also hating on Spain because of the Barca boys

At the end of the day our hate for any team or any player no fit stop them from winning

But my hate for ogunmepon have been successful since he left juve 🤩🤩

Bruno fernandes will be receiving a lot of hate this season from Ronaldo fans ,including the ones who support Man U

They will be hating on him because he didn’t create 50 million chances for their 41 year old log of wood 🪵

You wan win wc with a finished player ,make dem Bruno vitinha carry am as if him carry Figo and co then

Bruno fernandes you are the best attacking midfielder in the epl and nothing can change that

Neymar1095:
Can you show us any final Messi won without Di Maria. If Di Maria was available against Spain and scored as usual you would have also said it was Messi that delivered the trophy.

I hope this is just banter and not how you actually reason.

But on the off chance that these are serious thoughts, then this is such a bad argument. So many fallacies.

To put the ridiculousness of this argument in perspective: Tagliafico has played all 4 finals that Messi has won with Argentina (the 2021 and 2024 Copa America finals, the Finalissima, and the 2022 World Cup final). Does this mean Tagliafico is the main or only reason Argentina won? You are confusing correlation with causation.

First, your argument is guilty of simplistic, single-cause analysis: attributing all of Argentina's success to one player (well, this is just naive, not just in football or sports but in many other things in life. Things are rarely monocausal).

Second, false cause/cherry picking: So Argentina could beat a tough England team in the semi-final, but the only or main reason they could not beat Spain (the same Spain that demolished a super-powered France team with first-rate talents like Mbappe, Dembele, Olise and Doue) is because they did not have a 38-year-old winger (Di Maria)? Do you realize how foolish this sounds?

You don't think there are other more valid reasons for Argentina's loss, such as the fact that Spain is simply a much better team? Or that Argentina were unlucky to lose two main players (Romero and Martinez) to injuries and getting a red card? Or that Argentina players had accumulated fatigue from playing 2 games that went to extra-time--whereas Spain won all games in 90 minutes--and getting 1 less day of rest than Spain for the final?

As for the cherry picking bit, has Argentina not won many games without Di Maria? And has Argentina not needed to win games where Di Maria did not show up? For example, though they needed to win the group stage game against Mexico in the 2022 World Cup, Di Maria had an average game, and they had to rely on Messi's long-range strike to save them.

Also, has Di Maria not lost in some finals he played in? He played in 2015 Copa America final, but they lost. He played in the Champions League final match for PSG against Bayern, and they lost. Just last year, he played in the domestic cup final for Benfica and they lost to Sporting CP. You make it seem like Di Maria guarantees a win in any final he plays.

It's reasonable to say Di Maria was very important to the squad. Newsflash: football is a team sport and you generally win with a good supporting cast. But it's unreasonable to claim that he was the deciding factor for Argentina's success. Barring 2024 Copa America where Messi struggled with injuries, he (Messi) has been the most important player for Argentina in every tournament they have played in since about 2008, including all the finals. That's what the evidence supports. Even in the 2022 World Cup final, Di Maria scored 1, but Messi scored 2. Even the chance for Di Maria's goal in that game came from a Messi pass; and Di Maria could operate freely on the left wing because Messi naturally drew 2 or more France's players whenever he received the ball, thus creating space for teammates.

Here are similarly unreasonable questions for you:

To flip your own question: Can you point to any final with the national team that Di Maria won without Messi?

Can you point to any national team final that Mbappe won without Pogba? Did Mbappe and France lose the 2022 World Cup final because Pogba was absent?

Can you point to any Euro final that Ronaldo won without Eder?

Can you point to any Champions League competition that Ronaldo won with Real Madrid without Gareth Bale? He was at Real for 4 years but failed to win and only started to win in the very season that Bale joined.

Can you point to any international final that Neymar has won without Dani Alves. His only national title is the 2013 Confederations Cup, which Alves played. Brazil has played 2 finals since then, in 2019 and 2021. They won the 2019 Copa America, and Alves played. But they lost the 2021 Copa America final, which Neymar played, whereas Alves was absent.

andrewbaba44:
Aside Portugal ,another country I was happy not winning this wc was France ,not because i hate them but because of how Ronaldo fans moved on from Portugal to them

They failed in all the support they made ,I also remember many of them writing off Spain against France and also hating on Spain because of the Barca boys

At the end of the day our hate for any team or any player no fit stop them from winning

But my hate for ogunmepon have been successful since he left juve 🤩🤩

No footballer is close to Messi. Their tears is very sweet.

On Portugal, I think they'll win at least bronze or win the world cup after Pendu. They actually have the team for a deep run.

AirBere:

No footballer is close to Messi. Their tears is very sweet.

On Portugal, I think they'll win at least bronze or win the world cup after Pendu. They actually have the team for a deep run.

I go begin support them once the fraud retire

And trust me ,his fanbase will be hating on the team

A fraud who couldn’t carry the likes of Figo and deco to win the wc ,yet his fans want vitinha and neves to carry him

Wo You see vitinha Bruno and Joao neves ? I am wishing the 3 of them another successful season 🤩

andrewbaba44:
I go begin support them once the fraud retire

And trust me ,his fanbase will be hating on the team

A fraud who couldn’t carry the likes of Figo and deco to win the wc ,yet his fans want vitinha and neves to carry him

Wo You see vitinha Bruno and Joao neves ? I am wishing the 3 of them another successful season 🤩

This is a common knowledge nah lol. I saw some united fans hating on Bruno, their best payer. Portugal can do what Spain did. Pack the midfield and try to dominate from there with Vitinha, Bruno, Joa Neves, Ruben Neves. Them get team.

StarchAndBanga:
Ur pikin Mumudueke way Assnal fans dey swear for every day, u no go talk about that one

I no get any pipkin with such name. Check your household.

airmark:
I no get any pipkin with such name. Check your household.

U wan deny ur guy Noni Madueke

airmark:
No matter what, we must not sell Madueke

AirBere:

This is a common knowledge nah lol. I saw some united fans hating on Bruno, their best payer. Portugal can do what Spain did. Pack the midfield and try to dominate from there with Vitinha, Bruno, Joa Neves, Ruben Neves. Them get team.

You can’t win the wc with a 41 year old as your striker ,you just can’t ,someone that can’t beat his man at the Saudi league

Kikelomogbenga:
Akor Adams is not really serious for moving to Venezia. Very unserious player.

From £30k to £70k pw salary, won't you move?

andrewbaba44:
Bruno fernandes you are the best attacking midfielder in the epl and nothing can change that

In the world, actually.

We dey here when people dey say Ronaldo dey raise hand dey find offside when him teammate score, every time laugh kikiki.
Small agenda them introduce una fave to, I dey see non causa pro causa lecture.
Crazy shxt. 😂😂💔

akwesenana:
In the world, actually.

Make Ronaldo fans no hear this one after that wc performance 😁

andrewbaba44:
Make Ronaldo fans no hear this one after that wc performance 😁

The way you dey carry this Ronaldo hatred ehnnn? Na you serious pass for una camp. For me, there's no point abusing and trolling Ronaldo because of world cup, Messi even without the world cup is still a better player.

Enzo5:
Alonso has been using 4231, hope he doesn't do a pitch on us and change when season starts

cc natev

Has he? Interesting. Who played in the back 4?

Jamiuokolaa:
Messi and Argentina have been powerless without di Maria's influence in finals.

The times Messi was relied upon in Di Maria's absence, he failed Miserably.

For NT finals, Messi and goalkeeper stats be like 5 & 6.

They should've just handed him the gloves in those games

Show me a tournament that Argentina won that di maria was the best player

Neymar1095:
Can you show us any final Messi won without Di Maria. If Di Maria was available against Spain and scored as usual you would have also said it was Messi that delivered the trophy.

You will have to show me the tournament di maria became best player in it for carrying Messi

Are you kidding?

Kimbeast:
Ferran Torres to Chelsea is gathering up steam.

lordfalcao:
Show me a tournament that Argentina won that di maria was the best player

The most important criteria is performances in finals. That's where the boys are separated from the men. The rules are the rules. I didnt make them. Unfortunately, Midget Messi terribly falls short in that regard.

Completely Ghosting in 5 finals with zero shots on target is just too pathetic.

2014 WC final - 0 shots on Target (Di Maria nor dey)

2015 Copa America final - Terrible performance from la Midget

2016 Copa America final - another dreadful performance from Messi

2021 Copa America triumph - Di Maria to the rescue

2022 WC final - Di Maria to the rescue with a goal + an assist for Messi to score an Awoof PK

2024 Copa America - Di Maria to the rescue again

2026 WC final - Messi with his Usual GK stats. No Di Maria to bail him out as usual.

Messi is better off as a keeper in Finals for Argentina abeg

andrewbaba44:
Bruno fernandes will be receiving a lot of hate this season from Ronaldo fans ,including the ones who support Man U

They will be hating on him because he didn’t create 50 million chances for their 41 year old log of wood 🪵

You wan win wc with a finished player ,make dem Bruno vitinha carry am as if him carry Figo and co then

Bruno fernandes you are the best attacking midfielder in the epl and nothing can change that

Bruno should have won the World Cup for Ronaldo, how MANY World Cups did Ronaldo win for Figo? People that are mad

Bimmarlykay:
Name those things?

After you name those Messi and over Muller.

Bimmarlykay:
That's why you support Wasiuuu,leave stat and watch ball,in that Final,Muller was quiet.

That's why you support chibuzor, leave sentiments and follow ball. In that final Messi was quiet.

nateevs:
Has he? Interesting. Who played in the back 4?

emenalo colwill fofana palestra

StarchAndBanga:
U wan deny ur guy Noni Madueke

I know Madueke, the Epl champion and not your Mumudueke.

BlueMann:
So Michael Emenalo get pikin wey dey ball for academy. Landon, he apparently started both behind closed doors friendly matches so far, and Xabi seems to be impressed.

18 yo left back

I’m surprised you’re just finding this out