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Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 5:00pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜ I asked you this because you emphasized the text. This might have another meaning from your perspective.
➜ To hold a position that a religious text "does not" command people on how to dress or act. Specifically women, is enough for anyone to question your use of the expression.
The emphasis was to point to the fact that the statement you made was made in ignorance of what is in fact contained in the Bible. DOES NOT has only one meaning in the context of this conversation... the negation of what was previously claimed.🥱🥱

2. If you do not agree, then all you have to do is provide evidence. Not double down with more falsehoods. 🥱🥱
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 5:08pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
You mean all 15 consecutive verses of Surah At-tawbah 1-15 are taken out of context? WOW... is it ever possible to grasp anything then in that book? 😒😒😒
No, it's not.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 5:21pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
The emphasis was to point to the fact that the statement you made was made in ignorance of what is in fact contained in the Bible. DOES NOT has only one meaning in the context of this conversation... the negation of what was previously claimed.🥱🥱

2. If you do not agree, then all you have to do is provide evidence. Not double down with more falsehoods. 🥱🥱
I should provide evidence that the text of a religion does not command people to act or appear in a certain way. Then what makes something a "religion"?. Does that not sound weird to you?. It is like saying a nation follows a constitution that has no laws in it.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 5:34pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜ No, it's not.
It isn't contextual even when it aligns with your model human's very own actions as detailed in SiraRasulallah(The Life of the Prophet) by Ibn Ishaq? WOW... why am I not shocked at this point in time? 🥱🥱

With Islam, everything is literally a moving goalpost thanks to its Taquiyya underpinnings. 🥱🥱
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 5:37pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜ I should provide evidence that the text of a religion does not command people to act or appear in a certain way. Then what makes something a "religion"?. Does that not sound weird to you?.
➜ It is like saying a nation follows a constitution that has no laws in it.
None of the books contained in the collection that is the Bible professes or institutes any religion. What is weird is you insisting that it is revealing you have never actually read any of the books.🥱🥱

2. Glad you mentioned the word constitution. Yes, the book contains 2 different constitutions for two different nations --- the ancient nation of Israel established and defined by the Law of Moses(the Torah) and the Kingdom of God(a nation not of this world) established by way of the Gospel---, none of them a religion. 🥱🥱
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 5:56pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
None of the books contained in the collection that is the Bible professes or institutes any religion. What is weird is you insisting that it is revealing you have never actually read any of the books.🥱🥱

2. Glad you mentioned the word constitution. Yes, the book contains 2 different constitutions for two different nations --- the ancient nation of Israel established and defined by the Law of Moses(the Torah) and the Kingdom of God(a nation not of this world) established by way of the Gospel---, none of them a religion. 🥱🥱
So nothing in the bible requires you to act or appear in a certain way? However, there are laws of Moses, and the other... for kingdom of God. Which is not... on earth. Thats okay then. Enjoy your day.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 5:58pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜So nothing in the bible requires you to act or appear in a certain way? However, there are laws of Moses, and the other... for kingdom of God. Which is not... on earth. Thats okay then. Enjoy your day.
Stop spreading lies about a book you have never taken time to study or at least read. 🥱🥱
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 6:01pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
Stop spreading lies about a book you have never taken time to study or at least read. 🥱🥱
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:01pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜Whatever makes you sleep at night.
Taquiyya does not apply where the Bible is concerned! 🥱🥱
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 6:02pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
You mean all 15 consecutive verses of Surah At-tawbah 1-15 are taken out of context? WOW... is it ever possible to grasp anything then in that book? 😒😒😒
You refused to use your God's given free Brain to grasp simple things. Below is a response from ChatGPT- an AI tool by non Muslim. Verify that yourself using others AI tools.

Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜You refused to use your God's given free Brain to grasp simple things. Below is a response from ChatGPT- an AI tool by non Muslim. Verify that yourself using others AI tools.
WOW... the Taquiyya is really strong with you to the point you think you can tell people they should deny exactly what is right before their eyes. 😂😂😂

Your Quran says that your prophet is the model for all Islamists, meaning that what he did to the pagans is the very same thing you all should do to pagans today. And the evidence of that is all over the place, even as far as just yesterday with the Islamic terrorist attack against LGBTQ people in Germany. Yet you are here insisting we should pretend not to see what is right before our eyes? 😂😂 undecided
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 6:07pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
Taquiyya does not apply where the Bible is concerned! 🥱🥱
Ndo... maybe ask the Catholics that gave yall the bibles why their people dresses a certain way. You worship a certain way, have certain expectations of you but you claim none of these can be referenced from the Bible. Enjoy your day mate.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:11pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜ Ndo... maybe ask the Catholics that gave yall the bibles why their people dresses a certain way.
➜ You worship a certain way, have certain expectations of you but you claim none of these can be referenced from the Bible. Enjoy your day mate.
1. The Catholics did not give the Bible. The books of the Bible predate the Catholic Church, with the manuscripts for the Books of the Law and the Prophets dating as far back as 300 years before Jesus Christ of Israel showed up. The books of the Gospel were all written in the first century, about 200 years before the Nicene convention that led to the establishment of the Catholic church. 😂

Also, the dress of Catholics has nothing to do with the Bible. Again, you not being aware of this is clear evidence you have never read the books of the bible. 😂😂😂

2. Again, the constitution of the two nations expressed in the Bible clearly gives rules to citizens of the nation, not religion or the practices contained in any religion.😂😂
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 6:16pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
It isn't contextual even when it aligns with your model human's very own actions as detailed in SiraRasulallah(The Life of the Prophet) by Ibn Ishaq? WOW... why am I not shocked at this point in time? 🥱🥱

With Islam, everything is literally a moving goalpost thanks to its Taquiyya underpinnings. 🥱🥱
Maybe I should remind you: quotes my religious books: Qur'an and Hadith.

Ibn Ishaq is an author, who just wrote a biography of the prophet, where there are possibilities of him quoting Hadith that are discarded or even fabricated.

Are Muslims bound to follows what is in there? The answer is Left to you.


Do you even know what Taqiyya is ? I'm a Muslim. I'm proud of that forever and grateful for to my God for that.
I don't hide my faith or belief for whatsoever reason or detest my Islamic identity.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 6:22pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
WOW... the Taquiyya is really strong with you to the point you think you can tell people they should deny exactly what is right before their eyes. 😂😂😂

Your Quran says that your prophet is the model for all Islamists, meaning that what he did to the pagans is the very same thing you all should do to pagans today. And the evidence of that is all over the place, even as far as just yesterday with the Islamic terrorist attack against LGBTQ people in Germany. Yet you are here insisting we should pretend not to see what is right before our eyes? 😂😂 undecided
I guess my response on taqiyya was late.

Why then shifting from that 15 verse of a thing? You should have stick to that it really commanded or instructed killings by Muslims.

You rather shifted to another scenario: case of criminal offence/terrorism. Terrorism, social vices has no boundaries in human. Muslims, non Muslims does that!

You should personally know this: Islam religion is an eye for an eye religion. You killed, you should be killed too. Boko Haram, isis, Alqaeda, you name them. You know who sponsored them.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:24pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜Maybe I should remind you: quotes my religious books: Qur'an and Hadith. Ibn Ishaq is an author, who just wrote a biography of the prophet, where there are possibilities of him quoting Hadith that are discarded or even fabricated.
➜ Are Muslims bound to follows what is in there? The answer is Left to you.
➜ Do you even know what Taqiyya is ? I'm a Muslim. I'm proud of that forever and grateful for to my God for that. I don't hide my faith or belief for whatsoever reason or detest my Islamic identity.
1. Most of the reports contained in The Life of Mohammed, written by Ibn Ishaq, trace back to the Hadiths, particularly Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. Are you attempting to lie to us now that those Hadiths are not considered authentic in Islam? 😂😂

2. Islamists are not bound to the writings in The Life of Mohammed, most all authenticated by entries both in the Quran and Hadiths? 😂😂😂

3. You are literally Taquiyya-ing me as we speak, yet asking me whether I know what the term means? 🤣🤣🤣
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 6:26pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
1. The Catholics did not give the Bible. The books of the Bible predate the Catholic Church, with the manuscripts for the Books of the Law and the Prophets dating as far back as 300 years before Jesus Christ of Israel showed up. The books of the Gospel were all written in the first century, about 200 years before the Nicene convention that led to the establishment of the Catholic church. 😂

Also, the dress of Catholics has nothing to do with the Bible. Again, you not being aware of this is clear evidence you have never read the books of the bible. 😂😂😂

2. Again, the constitution of the two nations expressed in the Bible clearly gives rules to citizens of the nation, not religion or the practices contained in any religion.😂😂
Comprehension... nothing i have said means the Catholics found Christianity... I simply said... they brought it to you.

If the dress code has nothing to do with the Bible, where did they derive it from? Not sure any other dressing will be christ like will it?
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜I guess my response on taqiyya was late. Why then shifting from that 15 verse of a thing? You should have stick to that it really commanded or instructed killings by Muslims.
➜ You rather shifted to another scenario: case of criminal offence/terrorism. Terrorism, social vices has no boundaries in human. Muslims, non Muslims does that!
➜ You should personally know this: Islam religion is an eye for an eye religion. You killed, you should be killed too. Boko Haram, isis, Alqaeda, you name them. You know who sponsored them
.
The only shift happened when you claimed that Quran Al-Tawbah 1 -15 cannot be considered contextual. undecided

2. Shifted to another scenario? Dude, the Islamic terrorists confirm what is written in Quran Al-Tawbah 1-15. How can a thing codified in that very text in the Quran be said to be not of the text? 🤣🤣🤣

3. Personally know what? Nigeria is literally being ravaged by Islamists carrying out Quran Al-Tawbah 1-15. If you are saying I should personally know from what is happening in Nigeria that the text in fact sanctions terrorist attacks against non-Islamists, then sure, I know this for a fact from what I see. 😒😒
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:34pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜Comprehension... nothing i have said means the Catholics found Christianity... I simply said... they brought it to you.
➜ If the dress code has nothing to do with the Bible, where did they derive it from?
➜ Not sure any other dressing will be christ like will it
You falsely claimed the Catholics gave us the Bible. 😒

2. Well, you would need to ask the religion since I already told you that nothing in the books of the Bible prescribes any religion, including the one you know as the Catholic religion. undecided

3. What exactly is this Christlike dressing you speak of? When the Jesus Christ of Israel was hung butt naked on the cross, was that not Christlike dressing? 😒😒😒
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 6:45pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
1. Most of the reports contained in The Life of Mohammed, written by Ibn Ishaq, trace back to the Hadiths, particularly Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. Are you attempting to lie to us now that those Hadiths are not considered authentic in Islam? 😂😂

2. Islamists are not bound to the writings in The Life of Mohammed, most all authenticated by entries both in the Quran and Hadiths? 😂😂😂

3. You are literally Taquiyya-ing me as we speak, yet asking me whether I know what the term means? 🤣🤣🤣
All claiming without proof.
Accept this challenge and Bring those Quran verses ,sahih Muslim and Bukhari Hadiths that Ibn Ishaq used to see.

I took more than 3 months engaging with people of your likes, those whom they even claimed they memorized the Quran, born Muslim, years back. Check my profile.

Your-kind is not a new thing.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Shimran(m): 6:49pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
The only shift happened when you claimed that Quran Al-Tawbah 1 -15 cannot be considered contextual. undecided

2. Shifted to another scenario? Dude, the Islamic terrorists confirm what is written in Quran Al-Tawbah 1-15. How can a thing codified in that very text in the Quran be said to be not of the text? 🤣🤣🤣

3. Personally know what? Nigeria is literally being ravaged by Islamists carrying out Quran Al-Tawbah 1-15. If you are saying I should personally know from what is happening in Nigeria that the text in fact sanctions terrorist attacks against non-Islamists, then sure, I know this for a fact from what I see. 😒😒
Even with the help of AI?
Indeed common sense is not common. embarassed

Reduce dependance on Western Media. Who sponsored them to achieve their aim of stereotyping Islam. Just 4 months ago, your almighty American confessed of given arms to those so called islamist to do their works.
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:50pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜All claiming without proof. Accept this challenge and Bring those Quran verses ,sahih Muslim and Bukhari Hadiths that Ibn Ishaq used to see.
➜ I took more than 3 months engaging with people of your likes, those whom they even claimed they memorized the Quran, born Muslim, years back. Check my profile. Your-kind is not a new thing.
1. You are the one making the claim that the SiraRassullah by Ibn Ishaq contradicts the Hadiths. So you should provide the evidence. I am waiting! 😒😒

2. I don't memorize books... I read to comprehend the text as simply as possible so I do not inject my delusions between the lines; I allow the writer's intention to pass through as is written. Taquiyyah no dey work here... so change your tactic.😒😒
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 6:56pm On Jul 27
Shimran:
➜Even with the help of AI? Indeed common sense is not common. embarassed
➜ Reduce dependance on Western Media. Who sponsored them to achieve their aim of stereotyping Islam.
➜ Just 4 months ago, your almighty American confessed of given arms to those so called islamist to do their works
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1. Are you sure you are OK at all? Why in the world would a person need AI to comprehend that which was written by largely uneducated individuals 1200 years ago? No be brain damage dem dey call that? 😒😒

2. Ah! So, when an Islamist is sponsored by someone else in carrying out what are literal Islamist tenets, it is not Islamist or the Islamic text to blame but the third party that provided sponsorship for fulfillment of the Islamic dread of dying a martyr! You don't use your brains well, do you? 😒😒😒

3. American giving arms to Islamists so they can carry out their Islamic Agenda means America supports Islamism? Dude... use your brain, abeg! 😒
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Harnny(m): 7:13pm On Jul 27
Kobojunkie:
You falsely claimed the Catholics gave us the Bible. 😒

2. Well, you would need to ask the religion since I already told you that nothing in the books of the Bible prescribes any religion, including the one you know as the Catholic religion. undecided

3. What exactly is this Christlike dressing you speak of? When the Jesus Christ of Israel was hung butt naked on the cross, was that not Christlike dressing? 😒😒😒
Subsaharan Africans suddenly discovered the Bible and was not brought over?.... hmmn, I must be exposed to a wrong history.
He was hung but naked.... by His choice?
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Nwaikpe: 7:15pm On Jul 27
Emeskhalifa:
So how does that take away the fact that it is the fastest growing religion on earth?
It is weak. Trust me, too weak.
Upon all the violence it has used, it is still growing at this little pace. The NAZIs used o my half of the force you use and almost conquered the world in just 5 years.

See una here: even with your 1.2 billion, una no fit defeat 10 million Jews.

God bless the children of Israel.

😅😅😅
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Kobojunkie: 7:35pm On Jul 27
Harnny:
➜Subsaharan Africans suddenly discovered the Bible and was not brought over?.... hmmn, I must be exposed to a wrong history.
➜ He was hung but naked.... by His choice?
1. The vast majority of books you read today in Africa were brought over from other parts of the world. So, what exactly is your argument? As for the Bible in Africa, it predates Islam, as much of North Africa was mostly Christian for about 400 years before Islam. 😒😒

2. You have never read the book, have you? The man literally said that no one can take his life from him; he gave it of his own volition. His hanging naked on the cross was prophesied from the time of Moses and was accepted by Him. So, the question remains... Was his hanging on the cross butt naked not Christlike?😒😒
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by gaskiyamagana: 7:46pm On Jul 27
huptin:
Some people's brain is beyond repair. Did you people build those places? Why not go to Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and other places you built and enjoy your pain and poverty.

If your citizens contribute to developing these regions, why would the host governments face public pressure to deport them?

As for the hate, i am proud to hate anything that spreads paedophilia, slavery, murder, pain and poverty, and i will forever remain so.
Who is talking about building the place or about people therein accepting Islam?
You are kindergarten of history or roboticalized reasoning concerning your hatred about Islam.
Pain and poverty of those accepting Islam in the dream country of your choice?
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by gaskiyamagana: 7:53pm On Jul 27
Nwaikpe:
It is weak. Trust me, too weak.
Upon all the violence it has used, it is still growing at this little pace. The NAZIs used o my half of the force you use and almost conquered the world in just 5 years.

See una here: even with your 1.2 billion, una no fit defeat 10 million Jews.

God bless the children of Israel.

😅😅😅
Iran must not hear this that's why I will help you to delete it soonest. Or do you want me to transfer it to Iranian military authority to reactivate reserved punishment of last 12days war with small pikin Israel?
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Hamziyah(m): 8:07pm On Jul 27
It's not for ordinary people, but for the people who can think out of the box.
Amotolongbo:
what is in it to comprehend?

I have brain and wouldn’t fall for that anyway. That’s for the mumus
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Amotolongbo(f): 8:19pm On Jul 27
Hamziyah:
It's not for ordinary people, but for the people who can think out of the box.
you are in the box and thinking within the box.
If you knew what thinking out of box is, Islam would be the last thing for you to practise
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by AntiisIam(m): 8:21pm On Jul 27
dofman:
Who is he ?

Ahaaaaa. Even your pastor will soon abandon your religion soon . 🤣
Boya ko bi chief imam e nii ahamo Libya that who is he
Re: 'I Am Against Islam And Everthing It Stands For' - Elon Musk (Video) by Emeskhalifa(m): 8:48pm On Jul 27
huptin:
This your religion has been the fastest growing for like forever, yet the gap between it and christianity doesnt shrink.

Let it continue to grow in poverty and pain, no one cares, but whenever you guys carry that your cursed mentality to sane societies, You will continue to collect.

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