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Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by StoryHaven: 1:34pm On Jul 31
To All Terrorists and Their Sympathisers on NL

Your ideology is demonic and whatever book you read that encourages violence should be from LUCIFER'S kingdom.

#Fact
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by IndexMode: 1:35pm On Jul 31
You can't carry out carpet bombing of entire neighborhoods because some suspected fighters could be hiding there. Indiscriminate targeting is called a war crime by the UN convention. That was ractified since the 60s.

Children were definitely part of hamas or their nursing g mothers or the people in several hospitals that isreal bombed. Isreal committed a clear genocide and that should not be difficult for anybody to see and acknowledge.

Subsequently, they took over their land and drew the Yellow line. Even US media called it a real estate land grab.

My own criticism is always objective. I dont support the terrorists in Palestinian population nor do I support Israel.


GeneralOuki:
They were targeting Hamas and PIJ fighters who were embedded within civilian population. This is what you get in an urban warfare, civilian casualties and civilian infrastructure getting obliterated. The Allied forces fire bombed Hamburg and Dresden resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilian lives and then they went on to drop two atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki then completed it with incendiary bombs on Tokyo.

They couldn't communicate with Hamas that are inside Gaza, in fact they made no attempt to do so other than with air strikes on their positions. And it was very difficult to identify Hamas members, they could only identify the well known ones but not the regular fighters.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by olyrayy(m): 1:39pm On Jul 31
GeneralOuki:
O yes! General Ouki is the GOAT grin.. to hell with Riboku/ Li Mu, I can't wait for his bitter end which is fast approaching grin Nfunfunfunfu....
Kan Ki is still my favourite character tho. No drop manga spoilers O.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by LeeSmart: 1:43pm On Jul 31
Emeskhalifa:
You can go ahead and keep deceiving yourself and your likes
I knew you wouldn't have any other thing to say😁, please continue with ur support Mr sympathiser 😂😂😂
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Kobojunkie: 1:44pm On Jul 31
GeneralOuki:
➜This is first time they're going THIS hard on them, usually it used to be a few bomb here and there and they call it a day, they hardly ever set boots on the ground. But this time around it was a sustained no holds barred bombing and invasion of Gaza to eliminate as many terrorists as possible and rescue their civilians held captive.
➜ They really pummeled Gaza so hard that hamas can't claim victory after any ceasefire as they usually does, yeah this the first time the world has had to see what "Urban warfare" looks like but this is also the best use of propaganda in history. The propaganda that hamas and it's supporters utilised in this war was top-notch, it was so good that they even got LGBTQ people shilling for them grin, so the perception of Israel is right now at an all time low, not since the Final solution did Jews face such a thing, but I have got to say they aren't helping their case... Not like they give a damn this time around and that's what scares hamas the most —israel don't seem to give a damn about their perception on the world stage, they just want to get the job done.
➜ I think if this peace deal and disarmament is successful it will really lead to a lasting peace for both Israel and Gaza, the people involved in this one seems to be really serious and meticulous. I hope I'm right though 😅.
➜ The thing about staying on course and finishing the job is that you can't really terminate all the hamas members and fighters without it costing a lot more blood on the civilians, the best way is to reduce their influence in the strip, cut down on their fighting force and then force them to the table to agree on a disarmament. Anyway, let's watch and see how it goes.
1. This isn't the first time that Gaza has been leveled and not the first time that Israel has had to attack Hamas in Gaza. But I hope for it to be the last. 😐😐

2. Hama's has never before been able to claim victory even before now. Hamas never gave a sheet about the leveling of Gaza before now. Why should it start now giving a sheet about it?😐😐

3. We all thought the same back in 2005. We all know what Hamas did with all of that time and the resources that poured in after that.😐😐

4. Yes, you can do exactly that! That Israel has not tried it yet is no reason to determine it impossible to do. 😐😐
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by LeeSmart: 1:46pm On Jul 31
IndexMode:
You can't carry out carpet bombing of entire neighborhoods because some suspected fighters could be hiding there. Indiscriminate targeting is called a war crime by the UN convention. That was ractified since the 60s.

Children were definitely part of hamas or their nursing g mothers or the people in several hospitals that isreal bombed. Isreal committed a clear genocide and that should not be difficult for anybody to see and acknowledge.

Subsequently, they took over their land and drew the Yellow line. Even US media called it a real estate land grab.

My own criticism is always objective. I dont support the terrorists in Palestinian population nor do I support Israel.
Oga just come out with ur full chest and tell us that you're a Hamas apologist.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Elusive001: 2:07pm On Jul 31
GeneralOuki:
If they could turn back the hand of time they would never have allowed it to happen because the resulting avalanche has been to great to bare. Haniyeh is dead, Ayatollah is dead, Nasralah is dead, Sinwar is dead and Deif is dead, Assad have been overthrown, Gaza is leveled, Hezbollah have been reduced to a mere nuisance, Iran is getting bombed. It's one of the biggest miscalculation in modern history, very close second to operation Barbarossa.
The regrets are heart-wrenching
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Ovacoma: 2:22pm On Jul 31
There was somebody who called himself krismas at the beginning of the war, he always posted hamas victory everyday in the war,I urged him to be patient, he didn't listen to me because lies and propaganda was his way of life. Shame on you wherever you are today!

Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Ovacoma: 2:38pm On Jul 31
IndexMode:
You can't carry out carpet bombing of entire neighborhoods because some suspected fighters could be hiding there. Indiscriminate targeting is called a war crime by the UN convention. That was ractified since the 60s.

Children were definitely part of hamas or their nursing g mothers or the people in several hospitals that isreal bombed. Isreal committed a clear genocide and that should not be difficult for anybody to see and acknowledge.

Subsequently, they took over their land and drew the Yellow line. Even US media called it a real estate land grab.

My own criticism is always objective. I dont support the terrorists in Palestinian population nor do I support Israel.
Israel is doing what is necessary for it's existence. You can hand over your own life and land to the fulanis. Hamas would have separated themselves from the children and women if they really want to fight, but because of people like you who think Israel ought to be soft on the people who want its annihilation, they are hiding among babies and women while fighting with the IDF. This time is different, even all the protesters realized Israel doesn't care what the rest of the world think, that is why protests disappeared.
That is how to deal with terrorists, there should be no moderation in bring destruction to the enemy who threatens your existence.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by baslone: 2:59pm On Jul 31
Iron Dome, Iron Dome

David's Sling, David's Sling

6 weeks don enter 6 months 😂
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by AntiisIam(m): 3:43pm On Jul 31
Expanse2020:
Says by the trump 😂😂😂😂😂
Ahahaha grin

The news shocked you abi
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Franking: 4:27pm On Jul 31
grin
What's the point now? After incurring souch casualties.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by GeneralOuki(op): 4:44pm On Jul 31
Kobojunkie:
1. This isn't the first time that Gaza has been leveled and not the first time that Israel has had to attack Hamas in Gaza. But I hope for it to be the last. 😐😐

2. Hama's has never before been able to claim victory even before now. Hamas never gave a sheet about the leveling of Gaza before now. Why should it start now giving a sheet about it?😐😐

3. We all thought the same back in 2005. We all know what Hamas did with all of that time and the resources that poured in after that.😐😐

4. Yes, you can do exactly that! That Israel has not tried it yet is no reason to determine it impossible to do. 😐😐
This is the first time more than 60% of Gaza is being leveled, the other two times they fought in Gaza there weren't this magnitude of destruction and death. It wasn't like this in 1967 and it certainly wasn't like this in 1975, this is the first of its kind as far as Israel/Gaza is concerned.

Oh Hamas do regularly claim victory anytime there is a ceasefire, it has been a regular thing with them, they use it to as a propaganda tool to keep hold of the strip.

Well this time I think it's not going to be like in 2005 when they were left alone to govern as they see fit, this time around they're going to give way for a neutral body to assume the administration of Gaza for the foreseeable future, only to hand it over to the Palestinians after deradicalization and reforms. No funds will be going into the hands of hamas this time around unlike in 2005.

Doing that comes at a very great cost of human lives, and it's almost impossible to do , so the result is not worth the effort. Degrading the terrorists and forcing them to the negotiating table is the best way to handle this things.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by GeneralOuki(op): 4:52pm On Jul 31
olyrayy:
Kan Ki is still my favourite character tho. No drop manga spoilers O.
Kanki is an interesting Character but he is a shít bag. I will take Yotanwa, Mouten and Ousen over him any day any time. It's like you are a anime only guy huh? Well I will not drop any manga spoilers but the story is loosely based on the shi ji/ record of the grand historian which is a historical event.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by GeneralOuki(op): 5:05pm On Jul 31
IndexMode:
You can't carry out carpet bombing of entire neighborhoods because some suspected fighters could be hiding there. Indiscriminate targeting is called a war crime by the UN convention. That was ractified since the 60s.

Children were definitely part of hamas or their nursing g mothers or the people in several hospitals that isreal bombed. Isreal committed a clear genocide and that should not be difficult for anybody to see and acknowledge.

Subsequently, they took over their land and drew the Yellow line. Even US media called it a real estate land grab.

My own criticism is always objective. I dont support the terrorists in Palestinian population nor do I support Israel.
Yes it's a war crime to indiscriminately target civilian areas, but if there's a active combatant in that area, such areas or infrastructure loses it's civilian protection and is valid target. It is boldly written in that UN document that you referred to.

Children being part of hamas actually makes them legitimate targets, and the blame is on the people who used them as child soldiers, they're the ones committing a war crime and not the ones who neutralised them. There's a reason why child soldiers are a crime in international law. And No I disagree that it was a genocide, the intent was not there, but yes Israel has committed a lot of war crimes in Gaza but not genocide.

They didn't take over any land, you have to have basic knowledge of the history of this place to know that what you just said is not true. Israel went into Gaza and occupied it when Egypt rejected the right to administer the strip, then on 2005; Israel demolished all their settlements and even exhumed their graves and left Gaza, handing it over to the Palestinians to govern by themselves. They did so by electing Hamas into power who Went on to Kill every political opposition in Gaza, and immediately began launching rocket at Israel which led to the blockade on the strip by both Israel and Egypt.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by okoloto: 5:18pm On Jul 31
Hamas have no option. Their major sponsors is also struggling for their life and have their hands full grin
After the agreement, na them go still go find trouble and then Israel go finally take over Palestine. Maybe it's Gods plan.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by doffman: 5:26pm On Jul 31
AntiisIam:
Expanse2020 doffman dofman

I said make I greet you all from this angle nii ooo, how far, how market guys
Dey play , Hamas still exist in another brand . The main thing is for your aggressor Israhel to pack themselves and get out . Na your people still lose . Pele o
Palestine still stand .
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Ovacoma: 5:50pm On Jul 31
doffman:
Dey play , Hamas still exist in another brand . The main thing is for your aggressor Israhel to pack themselves and get out . Na your people still lose . Pele o
Palestine still stand .
You are their spokesperson. It is ok to console yourself with that, mind you, the Jews no send anyone, ask Yahaya sinwar and his colleagues how far .
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by IndexMode: 6:44pm On Jul 31
If you want to fight the bandit herdsmen. But you also kill every fulani selling fura or meat. That is not war on terrorism. It has nothing to do with fighting for your own survival. It is genocide.

Maybe you need a list of the spots Isreal bombed. Including kindergartens and hospital buildings. Then the shelters that survivors fled to. Those people clearly separated men and women in those camps. Isreal intentionally killed those people.

Isreal sent troops into Gaza. So they very well identified who is who.

The UN and human rights watch declared that isreal violated multiple humanitarian laws/rules of engagement after they investigated. So what are u saying. Or why do you think ICC issued an arrest warrant on nethanyahu.

Terrorists dey. Genocidal murderer dey.
I don't know why anybody would sanley applaud either.

Ovacoma:
Israel is doing what is necessary for it's existence. You can hand over your own life and land to the fulanis. Hamas would have separated themselves from the children and women if they really want to fight, but because of people like you who think Israel ought to be soft on the people who want its annihilation, they are hiding among babies and women while fighting with the IDF. This time is different, even all the protesters realized Israel doesn't care what the rest of the world think, that is why protests disappeared.
That is how to deal with terrorists, there should be no moderation in bring destruction to the enemy who threatens your existence.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Ovacoma: 7:14pm On Jul 31
IndexMode:
If you want to fight the bandit herdsmen. But you also kill every fulani selling fura or meat. That is not war on terrorism. It has nothing to do with fighting for your own survival. It is genocide.

Maybe you need a list of the spots Isreal bombed. Including kindergartens and hospital buildings. Then the shelters that survivors fled to. Those people clearly separated men and women in those camps. Isreal intentionally killed those people.

Isreal sent troops into Gaza. So they very well identified who is who.

The UN and human rights watch declared that isreal violated multiple humanitarian laws/rules of engagement after they investigated. So what are u saying. Or why do you think ICC issued an arrest warrant on nethanyahu.

Terrorists dey. Genocidal murderer dey.
I don't know why anybody would sanley applaud either.
I don't know what you are thinking.
When terrorists hide their weapons in kindergartens, hospitals, UN facilities, etc and they are fighting and sending missiles into Israel from those places, Mr, those places become valid targets irrespective of the people in those places.
ICC is for people like you who want to be pleased, at least you and other are always referring to ICC arrest warrant to make your point. Israel has even been kind enough to allow Palestinians remain in Gaza after Oct 7, how many countries will tolerate that or do you think Israel don't have the firepower to scare everybody out of the strip? Israel is doing the necessary things to make sure anyone planning another Oct 7 will think twice or even be exposed by Palestinians themselves before destruction comes to everybody. All the people shouting from the river to the sea are the ones calling for Netanyahu arrest and Israel action genocide. You outside Gaza are the ones calling Israel action genocide, it is not genocide, Palestinians themselves know that, they know they mess up big time and there must punishment for it. The neighbouring countries know how things work in the middle East, Israel and Hamas know what they are doing. Hamas want the world see Israel as bad and they largely succeeded, Israel also knows the rest of the world wouldn't come to her aid if these terrorists overpowers her. Therefore, Israel has to do whatever necessary for existence and your opinions don't matter to them since you are not in their shoes.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by AntiisIam(m): 10:26pm On Jul 31
doffman:
Dey play , Hamas still exist in another brand . The main thing is for your aggressor Israhel to pack themselves and get out . Na your people still lose . Pele o
Palestine still stand .
Ahahaha cheesy

O shocked awon sule
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by olyrayy(m): 5:51am On Aug 01
GeneralOuki:
Kanki is an interesting Character but he is a shít bag. I will take Yotanwa, Mouten and Ousen over him any day any time. It's like you are a anime only guy huh? Well I will not drop any manga spoilers but the story is loosely based on the shi ji/ record of the grand historian which is a historical event.
I know the historical event it's based on. I was wandering on the subreddit for the manga/anime where I saw a spoiler that Kanki died. I was so upset. Abandoned the stupid subreddit immediately.

I like Kanki because he's emotionally complex. Most other characters, especially the main characters, are too one dimensional. It makes them uninteresting.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by dofman: 4:13pm On Aug 01
AntiisIam:
Ahahaha cheesy

O shocked awon sule
Shocked you that your boss is crying now . Pele 🤣
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by doffman: 5:15pm On Aug 01
Ovacoma:
You are their spokesperson. It is ok to console yourself with that, mind you, the Jews no send anyone, ask Yahaya sinwar and his colleagues how far .
I can feel your pain . Pele 🤣

Eruuuu Triump
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by GeneralOuki(op): 10:44pm On Aug 01
olyrayy:
I know the historical event it's based on. I was wandering on the subreddit for the manga/anime where I saw a spoiler that Kanki died. I was so upset. Abandoned the stupid subreddit immediately.

I like Kanki because he's emotionally complex. Most other characters, especially the main characters, are too one dimensional. It makes them uninteresting.
Well if you knew about the historical event then Kanki's fate shouldn't have been a shock to you, although there are some conflicting records concerning his fate but the general consensus is that.... Yeah. And next time be careful with wandering on manga subs on Reddit, they're swarming with spoilers, I'm always up to date with all the manga I'm reading and I usually am one of the culprits at spoiling things grin but I do try my best to tag my spoilers tho.

Kanki indeed is the most interesting character in the manga, and I dare say the most historically accurate depiction of a general during that era, they're typically dip shits morally speaking. The main characters like Shin, Ei sei, Tou, Karyo ten(not a historical character) Kyou Kai, Mouten ( second favourite character) are unrealistically altruistic for that time, I mean Ouhon drawned an entire village just to win a war historically. I like Ouki because he was balanced, not good, not bad just a well balanced character, I also like Shouheikun and Roukumi.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by AntiisIam(m): 1:18am On Aug 02
dofman:
Shocked you that your boss is crying now . Pele 🤣
Sule, boya na because Hamas see wetin dey bo s'ori awon ara e nii iran dey quickly accept full disarmament
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Difrent: 6:16am On Aug 02
GeneralOuki:
Anyway, let's watch and see how it goes.
All these will stop the day the USA stop supporting and promoting the real causes of the problems there which is Zionism, a political movement that wants to bring all Jews back to their historic homeland
And it's mainly support base are the American evangelicals
Who believe their salvation lies in preparing Jerusalem for the coming of Christ

Why did I explain all these above, this is a religious war that will never end
Didn't Erdogan just made almost all Israelis mad by saying they will take back Jerusalem once again, referring to the time Ottomans captured Jerusalem
And of course Turkiye is the next target of the Israelis once they are through with Iran and Erdogan is preparing for that, doesn't matter that trump said he likes him, once Trump's Israeli sponsors give him the green light he will act,albeit foolishly cos Turkiye is a NATO member, this is why he has been fighting and threatening NATO so that when the time comes he will attack a NATO member and justify it
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Scholes007(m): 7:36am On Aug 02
Elusive001:
So I ask the islamic terrorism supporters: what are the benefits of the October 7th? With the losses on iranian side, Hezbollah side, hamas side, houthis, islamic jihad, etc, did the October 7 worth it?
It was the worst mistake ever by those Islamist. So much miscalculation on their side. They based their assumption on a weak and divided America and an Isolated Israel. Unfortunately it's was the other way around.
Iran is still making similar mistakes now. Their resistance is rooted on politically weakened Trump/America but will be disastrous if Republican win come mid term election... America does not seek to win but to control and all indications are showing that they have strategically achieved that. Syria,Iraq and Lebanon has been tamed in large part. Qatar,UAE, Bahrain, Saudis and other gulf states has common interest as America and are allies. Israel has come to stay as a recognised state in Middle East by gulf nations. Iran is technically a pariah state. I see no other outcome than subjugation or Cubanization for Iran. No amount of propaganda will save them.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Elusive001: 7:46am On Aug 02
Difrent:
All these will stop the day the USA stop supporting and promoting the real causes of the problems there which is Zionism, a political movement that wants to bring all Jews back to their historic homeland
And it's mainly support base are the American evangelicals
Who believe their salvation lies in preparing Jerusalem for the coming of Christ

Why did I explain all these above, this is a religious war that will never end
Didn't Erdogan just made almost all Israelis mad by saying they will take back Jerusalem once again, referring to the time Ottomans captured Jerusalem
And of course Turkiye is the next target of the Israelis once they are through with Iran and Erdogan is preparing for that, doesn't matter that trump said he likes him, once Trump's Israeli sponsors give him the green light he will act,albeit foolishly cos Turkiye is a NATO member, this is why he has been fighting and threatening NATO so that when the time comes he will attack a NATO member and justify it
Go and rest.

Turkey never chop bellefull to take Jerusalem. The USA is never the back bone of Israel. GOD Almighty got Israel's back. The USA will soon stop supporting israel.

Psalm 121:4
He who watches over Israel neither sleeps nor slumbers.

Go and study about GOD'S promises to Israel.

Rest oga.
Re: Hamas Accepts Full Gaza Disarmament by Difrent: 7:56am On Aug 02
Elusive001:
Go and rest.

Turkey never chop bellefull to take Jerusalem. The USA is never the back bone of Israel. GOD Almighty got Israel's back. The USA will soon stop supporting israel.

Psalm 121:4
He who watches over Israel neither sleeps nor slumbers.

Go and study about GOD'S promises to Israel.

Rest oga.
grin

Okay , I don hear

So tell Netanyahu to stop running to America for military aid and call on God to stop the missiles ,
grin

Next you will say God is using USA abi
grin
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