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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Godx: 8:11pm On Aug 03
Caicedobets:
The signings were his call
...
Under his watch for that sizeable amount
He wasted club resources
Can you bring evidence of this? It's clearly on record here that Maresca had little say on Chelsea transfer dealings and that was what lead to fights with management and his subsequent wanting out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Caicedobets(m): 8:14pm On Aug 03
Godx:
Can you bring evidence of this? It's clearly on record here that Maresca had little say on Chelsea transfer dealings and that was what lead to fights with management and his subsequent wanting out.
He was the head coach and in his first season
He had a say in transfers.
As for his fights it was regards the issue if the Chelsea SDs not signing a center back to replace Colwill and that was in his second season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Godx: 8:44pm On Aug 03
Caicedobets:
He was the head coach and in his first season
He had a say in transfers.
As for his fights it was regards the issue if the Chelsea SDs not signing a center back to replace Colwill and that was in his second season
If you say so.


Ibime:
Enzo Maresca clashed with Chelsea over team selection, he didn’t want decisions on line-ups or substitutions taken out of his hands.

Chelsea insist their model hasn’t changed and that any input on rotation came only from the medical staff, focused on player workload.

Maresca believed the problems went deeper, he felt pressure from above to rotate and boost the value of several young players.

— @JacobsBen




Chelsea coach is not a coach but an asset manager or portfolio manager, sharing minutes everywhere to maintain asset value after TDs have bought hundred wingers. Have been stating this fact since Clearlake came in

All those funny substitutions of Gittens, Tyrique, Delap, Blomblom, Felix, JP, centrebacks pairings and constant wholesale changes of wingers every match around 60 mins regardless of the needs of the match are testament to this.

Maresca simply got tired of being a portfolio manager and wanted to be a football manager. Ease of Conference league last season confused these clowns that you can overstock with mids everywhere and rotate anyhow, but now there is no conference league but serious business. CWC final and certain big games shows that Maresca knows what is needed to lock down big games and didn't make funny team changes or substitutions in those games. The rest of the time, he was just an asset manager for Clearlake
nateevs:
I have several posts reiterating this point. He was simply a development manager looking after assets.

Anyone who didn't understand this framework just didn't pay attention. It was clear in the hire brief. The business model looks to employ someone who plugs completely into the board's recruitment plan at all levels.

The football manager will have no veto over purchase and sales of assets, but will be a positive promoter of the model by ensuring value retention in assets, considerably, at all times. This is why he needs to share minutes and manage players.

Considering the SOW, Maresca has been the best tool the board of clowns could find. Despite the constraints, he over-achieved.

All you needed was to see team setup against big teams, and how he tactically outclassed his peers time after time. Unshackled, we had a tactically astute and adaptive manager who knew football to the core. Those who know know.

No respectable manager will continue indefinitely with such technical constraints. It might work for a season.... once you win something, you expect more power over your squad. If you don't get it, and you won't with this clown board, it ends just like this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Caicedobets(m): 8:49pm On Aug 03
Godx:
If you say so.
All of these were from second season not his first when we was given the players he wished for
At least Dewsbury hall was 100% his call
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m):
Hope Maresca is no more a developing manager at city and nobody is dictating his lineup for him too grin grin grin grin?

No silly excuse will be tolerated if he fails to win at city.

Just saying oh.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa:
Debroslink:
Let's say Pep gets the Spanish NT job and wins Euro and WC, same you will run another agenda that Pep benefitted from the laid-down work of Fluente the current Spanish coach.

Na so you be.
Thanks for providing me with a very good agenda for that scenario.

From all indications, there would always be an agenda if he succeeds or fails with Spain cheesy cheesy

I wonder why Pep didnt take the Azzuri job though. It would have been the perfect platform to prove himself. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 9:14pm On Aug 03
raumdeuter:
Which NT job did Ferguson take
Ferguson retired more than 10 years ago.

Pep's contemporaries are Klopp, Tuchel, Zidane etc and all of them don accept NT jobs.

Pep should also accept one and he should stop ducking
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 9:17pm On Aug 03
andrewbaba44:
Pep no get anything to proove no worry

No be by force to take national team

He came to your epl and turned it to farmers league ,and we are happy about that 😁
Pep's contemporaries Zidane, tuchel, klopp etc have taken up NT jobs.

Pep should also take one up - we need to see him perform where there is no £1bn to spend in TWs .

He should stop ducking like a coward grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa:
Godx:
How many national team job did your Ferguson take? Scratch that how many different leagues did he even prove himself. We know the real reason he was afraid of leaving the UK.
Sir Alex led lowly Aberdeen to European cup winners Cup glory - an achievement that eclipses all of Pep's achievements in this context.

He also accepted the Scotland NT job and
didnt duck like Pep the coward.

It is on Record that Fraudiola chickened out of the Italy NT job when he realised that a deal with the Italian Mafias is completely different from the one with Arabic sugar daddies that hand out blank Cheques to managers.

Pep should take up an NT job Asap.

We need to see him in a scenario where there is no 150m to spend in January when a season isnt going as planned tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:02pm On Aug 03
Godx:
If you say so.
There is absolutely no proof that this was the case and the evidence on ground suggests otherwise.

Pray tell - how come the same Chelsea board has suddenly and miraculously decided to entrust the manager with transfer making decisons?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:13pm On Aug 03
Fraudiola was spot on.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 10:22pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Ferguson retired more than 10 years ago.

Pep's contemporaries are Klopp, Tuchel, Zidane etc and all of them don accept NT jobs.

Pep should also accept one and he should stop ducking
Ferguson contemporaries like Del Bosque, Lippi, Hitzfeld all coached National Teams

Why did Ferguson duck all through and avoided coaching NT? Is it because it will be hard to get Howard Webb to make Scotland win?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:23pm On Aug 03
raumdeuter:
Ferguson contemporaries like Del Bosque, Lippi, Hitzfeld all coached National Teams

Why did Ferguson duck all through and avoided coaching NT? Is it because it will be hard to get Howard Webb to make Scotland win?
Can you stake your hand that this is true?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 10:26pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Can you stake your hand that this is true?
You mean the stint where he coached the NT and didnt even make it past the group stages, How many world cup games did he win sef?

No wonder he came to hide under Howard Webb
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 10:28pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Pep's contemporaries Zidane, tuchel, klopp etc have taken up NT jobs.

Pep should also take one up - we need to see him perform where there is no £1bn to spend in TWs .

He should stop ducking like a coward grin
Your shaking hands alex fraudguson should go and take one first
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:28pm On Aug 03
raumdeuter:
You mean the stint where he coached the NT and didnt even make it past the group stages, How many world cup games did he win sef?

No wonder he came to hide under Howard Webb
Good that you have gone to check and avoided amputation like Eruditor grin

Pep should also go and take up an NT job just like Sir Alex did.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:29pm On Aug 03
andrewbaba44:
Your shaking hands alex fraudguson should go and take one first
He did with Scotland.

Pep should also do the same
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 10:37pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Good that you have gone to check and avoided amputation like Eruditor grin

Pep should also go and take up an NT job just like Sir Alex did.
Fergsuon won 0 games at the world cup which made him run to find Howard Webb
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:39pm On Aug 03
raumdeuter:
Fergsuon won 0 games at the world cup which made him run to find Howard Webb
Ferguson accepted an NT job

Pep should also do the same - he cant be running away from challenges like VVD abi Airmark? cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 10:39pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
He did with Scotland.

Pep should also do the same
And Wetin e win ?

Your eba water Dey fire
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 10:42pm On Aug 03
andrewbaba44:
And Wetin e win ?

Your eba water Dey fire
Make Pep carry NT job too make we see wetin he go win
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:59pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Can you stake your hand that this is true?
Fergie nah fear fear coach. Never coached a top team outside UK, rejected England twice. Also turned down Scotland multiple times even though he already coached and failed them.

Pep for really stain Fergie white for EPL if baba waited just a bit. Alll due respect to Fergie, them no be mate for coaching.

When they met, and they met not once but twice.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 11:03pm On Aug 03
AirBere:
Fergie nah fear fear coach. Never coached a top team outside UK, rejected England twice.
Pep for really stain Fergie white for EPL if baba waited just a bit. Alll due respect to Fergie, them no be mate for coaching.

When they met, and they met not once but twice.
Ferguson coached Aberdeen a bottom team and led them to glory. He also took up the Scottish NT job.

Pep should do the same. As we have seen, he sharply ruled himself out of the Azzuri job when he saw that it isnt a sugar daddy thingy.

All of Pep's contemporaries have taken up NT jobs. Make himself do collect one.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 11:05pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Ferguson coached Aberdeen a bottom team and led them to glory. He also took up the Scottish NT job.

Pep should do the same. As we have seen, he sharply ruled himself out of the Azzuri job when he saw that it isnt a sugar daddy thingy.

All of Pep's contemporaries have taken up NT jobs. Make himself do collect one.
But Scotland is part of UK!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 11:06pm On Aug 03
AirBere:
But Scotland is part of UK!
Ehn make Pep collect any NT job
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 11:10pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Ehn make Pep collect any NT job
May be he's waiting for Sir Alex to take over England after rejecting them multiple times.

The same people who told Pep to come to EPL and prove himself also begged him to leave the league. This will happen once he starts farming Euros with a European side.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 11:17pm On Aug 03
AirBere:
May be he's waiting for Sir Alex to take over England after rejecting them multiple times.

The same people who told Pep to come to EPL and prove himself also begged him to leave the league. This will happen once he starts farming Euros with a European side.
Sir Alex was wasnt in between jobs when the England offer came . He was fully engrossed in the UTD project.

Pep should stop being afraid of the absence of sugar daddies and lack of transfer windows at an NT job. He should embrace the challenge like them Klopp, Zidane, Tuchel etc.

As at this moment, Fraudiola is a scared chicken afraid of getting 'drimbled' - same thing wey we take dey mock VVD.

Baba no wan stain him white

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 11:26pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Sir Alex was wasnt in between jobs when the England offer came . He was fully engrossed in the UTD project.

Pep should stop being afraid of the absence of sugar daddies and lack of transfer windows at an NT job.

He should embrace the challenge like them Klopp, Zidane, Tuchel etc.

As at this moment, Fraudiola is a scared chicken afraid of getting 'drimbled' - same thing wey we take dey mock VVD.

Baba no wan stain him white
Did he reject England twice? Did he turned down Scotland multiple times after he already coached and failed them?

After retiring from United, why didn't he help Scotland win euros or help Burundi win nations cup?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 11:29pm On Aug 03
AirBere:
Did he reject England twice? Did he turned down Scotland multiple times after he already coached and failed them?

After retiring from United, why didn't he help Scotland win euros or help Burundi win nations cup?
Sir Alex coached a National team during his active career. He didnt duck like Pep is currently doing.

We need to see an NT stint on Pep's resume...just like his contemporaries.

He should stop running away - worse case scenario na fail he go fail..no be say he kill person grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Godx: 11:29pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Sir Alex led lowly Aberdeen to European cup winners Cup glory - an achievement that eclipses all of Pep's achievements in this context.

He also accepted the Scotland NT job and
didnt duck like Pep the coward.

It is on Record that Fraudiola chickened out of the Italy NT job when he realised that a deal with the Italian Mafias is completely different from the one with Arabic sugar daddies that hand out blank Cheques to managers.

Pep should take up an NT job Asap.

We need to see him in a scenario where there is no 150m to spend in January when a season isnt going as planned tongue
Many words while saying nothing.

Ferguson achieved nothing outside the UK. He never dared to test himself abroad because he knew his 'Queen's English' and comfort zone would be exposed the moment he left British shores. Show me Ferguson's international managerial achievements first. Then we can talk about Pep. Until then, this debate is pointless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 11:33pm On Aug 03
Godx:
Many words while saying nothing.

Ferguson achieved nothing outside the UK. He never dared to test himself abroad because he knew his 'Queen's English' and comfort zone would be exposed the moment he left British shores. .
Ferguson won the European cup winners cup with Lowly Aberdeen. What has Pep achieved outside the comfort zone of star players, sugar daddies and blank cheque books?

Absolutely nothing!

Godx:
Show me Ferguson's international managerial achievements first. Then we can talk about Pep. Until then, this debate is pointless.
Show me Pep's record of not ducking like the scared rabbit that he is. Until then, y'all got no point.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 11:35pm On Aug 03
Jamiuokolaa:
Sir Alex coached a National team during his active career. He didnt duck like Pep is currently doing.

We need to see an NT stint on Pep's resume...just like his contemporaries.

He should stop running away - worse case scenario na fail he go fail..no be say he kill person grin
This is what a top coach does. He stepped into 3 of the top 4 leagues in the world and dominated them all.

Pep's biggest dominance ever was in the EPL.

Your Principal when he met Pep 😉

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