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Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by goslowgoslow(m): 10:50pm On Aug 04
Ofunaofu:
Your head dey pain you ni
Lmao 😂🤣😂🤣 the question pain am..una say Tinubu dey rig elections so what votes again? You cannot answer you dey throw insults delulu.... lmao 😂😆.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by PigTormentor: 10:57pm On Aug 04
Dbest rtd sore loser. These are the kinds of moomoos trying to rule Nigeria. Your defeat is already printed in duuduu color, waiting for you to come and collect it.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Jahwinaboy(m): 11:21pm On Aug 04
Faith734:
We are one Nigerian, let's leave in peace
Leave to Where? Ghana ? 😆
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by zelnababa(m): 11:27pm On Aug 04
ColdHunter:
I join voices with Rotimi Amaeschi to boldly state that had it been Mr Muhammad Sa'ad Abubakar III of Sokoto that criticized Tinubu, no Muslim or northerner would have gone against him.

Imfact, they will find a way to rationalize his statement.
and sultan can never play partisan politics
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by lightwind(m): 11:55pm On Aug 04
Sokoto state is the capital of Nigeria.

Sultan of Sokoto owns Nigeria, numerous decision about Nigeria is decides at the palace.

Home of the Fulanis of Nigeria, headquarters.

That's why they moved Nnamdi Kanu to Sokoto prison, it's a calculated move.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by lightwind(m): 11:58pm On Aug 04
favor914:
Confusion break bone, see wailing 😭.
That's not wailing, that's a fact.

Don't always respond to people here, using that lame Wailing statement.

Most people here are educated more than you, learn from them....

Don't be a bitter individual all the times on social media.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by lightwind(m): 12:01am On Aug 05
BigElEddy:
F&&&k Lord Lugard
Lord Lugard was the major problem we had in this country.

Just look what, he handed Nigeria over to the Fulanis in Sokoto state.

Most decision making in Nigeria today and everyday comes from the sultanate. Sultan of Sokoto palace

Very sad bro sad
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by ijayalolo: 12:11am On Aug 05
owobokiri:
Letting the reclusive president that people are dying of hunger means "attacking" the presidenthuh

This is why the country is being ruled by a Nebuchadnezar
Read and understand.
It is one thing to table people's grievances before the president, it is another thing to go to the market with it immediately after.

You went to meet President, the economy is not good, people are dying of hunger, there is insecurity.
The president replied you that the economy is not where it should be yet, he believes it is heading in the right direction with his reforms. People have been talking of hunger before I was born, it did not start today but we are doing things to put us in good position in the long run though tough in the short run. Insecurity, we have learnt from past experience and we have devised ways to move forward in handling kidnappings you can see that in the formation of new brigades in the Army.

Tell me how else does he want the president to respond? Only for him to leave the meeting and head to TV station to say, he did not accept all he said, that he doesn't want free and fair election, he doesn't care what happens to the people.

And you want the presidency to keep quiet and not defend itself?



Thank you for your attention to this matter
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by FatherLord: 12:23am On Aug 05
Do you know that I thought this same thing “ would Tinubu have given the same insult to sultan of sokoto “ . Christians patience have really been taken for granted in this country.

Nigeria will on fire by now, Tinubu just choose to ignore all the insults coming from the muslim north
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by MasterTeeUSA: 2:18am On Aug 05
I guess it is the same reason Obidients attacked Pastor Adeboye...Amaechi is playing dangerous politics...He should continue. He is trying to nail ATIKU finally. grin grin grin grin



Ablesam171:
It's a fact. They would never try to use their attack dogs on Sultan of Sokoto.
These people have little regard for Christians, which is why they found it so easy to present a Muslim-Muslim ticket. Their supporters are quick to attack Christianity whenever Christian clerics criticize the government, yet they are often reluctant to challenge prominent Islamic clerics because they know many Muslims will not tolerate what they consider disrespect.
For that, Muslims in Nigeria have my respect.
Remember when Davido shared a music video to promote one of his artists? It didn't take long for him to take it down after facing backlash over scenes that were perceived to resemble a mosque.
Also, in April 2022, Abubakar Suleiman, the Managing Director and CEO of Sterling Bank Plc., posted an Easter message comparing the resurrection of Jesus Christ to Agege bread with the phrase, "Like Agege Bread, He rose." He made the post, yet many Christians just laughed over it and moved on.
My point is that Christians in Nigeria are often taken for granted, despite not being a minority. The Catholic Church alone has tens of millions of members across the country.
Besides, why does Tinubu's government seem to dislike hearing criticism? Is it because it came to power on promises many people believe were misleading, and now prefers praise over honest criticism?
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:40am On Aug 05
gideonvalor98:
Sultan don collect before and that was at the time protest was brimming in the North at the early stage of Tinubu's administration. But what you won't see sultan or any high rank Islamic leader do is to go public and talk anyhow against the government. You can't hear sultan meet with the president and he then go to TV station to attack the same person you spoke in private with. These our Christian religious leaders are somehow disgracing us. You'll see a so-called pastor causing the president on the pulpit. Some will be making predictions, some will even encourage their congregation to go violent during election. Why won't politicians use us to front their agenda. The church needs to respect itself and uphold INTERGRITY to avoid see finish.
Why would sultan attack the president when he is running a Muslim Muslim ticket?
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:41am On Aug 05
Hardeybohwarley:
That's a very stupid assertion.

So daft to even think of in the firsr place.

Sultan is the Religious leader of all Muslims in Nigeria.

How dare him compare a man of such calibre with a mere Bishop.
A cardinal is a prince of the Catholic church well recognized all over the world,how would you compare that with a sultan of sokoto?
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:42am On Aug 05
Hamziyah:
Of course, because the Sultan doesn't play bitter politics. Tell the bishop to face politics and stop smear the the Alter
Until a christain christian ticket happens
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:42am On Aug 05
zelnababa:
and sultan can never play partisan politics
Until it's a Christian christain ticket
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Cajal(m): 2:55am On Aug 05
fergie001:
Politics Today with Rotimi Amaechi

I thought Amechi was smarter than this...
Sadly, he was not representing Christianity
How many times has he seen Tinubu playing this type of game
He will regret this statement when campaign starts
Interestingly, he will deny it
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by israelmao(m): 3:21am On Aug 05
Tinubu should get ready for high-powered politicking come 2027 these people have plotted many ways of dislodging him from A so Rock.Ameachi also once accused CAN of receiving N6bn from Jonathan government in 2014.Politicians always search out for available leverages to use to their advantage.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Goonnik: 4:22am On Aug 05
lightwind:
That's not wailing, that's a fact.

Don't always respond to people here, using that lame Wailing statement.

Most people here are educated more than you, learn from them....

Don't be a bitter individual all the times on social media.
U will wail tire
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Irony1: 4:26am On Aug 05
Gengengen:
All these are politics. He was hammering on disrespecting Christian faith throughout the interview.
His hidden agenda is to stare Nigerians (and mainly Christians) into believing that Tinubu is anti-Christian like was done in 2023.

Unfortunately, I believe the Tinubu campaign machinery is prepared for this line of opposition campaign
Oga please don't talk you are embarrassing yourself
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Irony1: 4:32am On Aug 05
seunjungle1:
I thought they once said Tinubu don't care for the sultan and that was why he allowed the USA to bombed Sokoto last time...if sultan where to be Christians leader, people like ameachi would have said..it is because the man is a Christian leader was the reason why they allow America to bomb is State.

Una sick well well
You can really gaslight sha.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Irony1: 4:35am On Aug 05
ijayalolo:
Though I'm a christian, How many times have you see Sultans come on TV stations to be doing politics in the name of religion.

When the sultans want to do that they address their congregations directly and let them know this is who we want you should vote for him. And those ones too 'bandwagon' will just follow 'mumu-ly' without asking questions.

You had a meeting with president, before blinking you went straight to TV station to start broadcasting and attacking him, and you expect his attack dogs not to fight back?

Agbadorians too abi na data boys. The things you accuse obidients of na hin dem dey do so, Attacking anybody that criticizes them. Everybody na the same, na only interest differ.

"An Elder that tied corn for waist, has made himself the laughing stock of hens"



Thank you for your attention to this matter
You will always know a crafty Tinubu supporter always pretending to be neutral but you will always see through the facade. What the Bishop did by telling the people what was discussed in the villa is not wrong, in fact it is a moral obligation to let people know.
This is not the first time Bishops have done this right from the days of Archbishop Okojie.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Irony1: 4:39am On Aug 05
ijayalolo:
Read and understand.
It is one thing to table people's grievances before the president, it is another thing to go to the market with it immediately after.

You went to meet President, the economy is not good, people are dying of hunger, there is insecurity.
The president replied you that the economy is not where it should be yet, he believes it is heading in the right direction with his reforms. People have been talking of hunger before I was born, it did not start today but we are doing things to put us in good position in the long run though tough in the short run. Insecurity, we have learnt from past experience and we have devised ways to move forward in handling kidnappings you can see that in the formation of new brigades in the Army.

Tell me how else does he want the president to respond? Only for him to leave the meeting and head to TV station to say, he did not accept all he said, that he doesn't want free and fair election, he doesn't care what happens to the people.

And you want the presidency to keep quiet and not defend itself?



Thank you for your attention to this matter
There's nothing that says that the meeting was private bros. Ideally the bishop has to let people know what they discussed.
It was not a classified security briefing
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Irony1: 4:40am On Aug 05
israelmao:
Tinubu should get ready for high-powered politicking come 2027 these people have plotted many ways of dislodging him from A so Rock.Ameachi also once accused CAN of receiving N6bn from Jonathan government in 2014.Politicians always search out for available leverages to use to their advantage.
Tinubu's policies are giving them the ammunition to use against him
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by jaxxy(m): 5:26am On Aug 05
tinubu and his ragtag aides have no respect for christian religious leaders. undecided
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by professorPABX:
Gotocourt:
We are being insulted because we are Christians.
ATIKU as an elder statesman and one of the Political Generals knows he cannot win Presidential election under the current situation. He just picked Amaechi to remain in the contest. He has just seen the level of intellect of the man he has chosen.

Emeritus Archbishop of Lagos (Archbishop Olubunmi Okogie) , Baba Aladura Otubu, Prelate Sunday Mbang, Bishop Daniel Okoh, are clergymen that have engaged government on dialogue. Baba Okogie engaged the Military Government during IBB era. Baba Otubu of C&S Church also engaged the Military Government. We have the respectable Baba Prelate Sunday Mbang of the Methodist Church Nigeria and Bishop Nicholas Okoh of the Anglican Communion Nigeria and not forgetting Baba E.E Okon of The Apostolic Church Nigeria and Prophet Soyinka of The Apostolic Faith Nigeria. These are responsible and respectable Clergymen from the Christian fold that have engaged government at different times in the history of Nigeria. We know where they stand. Their stand is known.

Muslim may not understand Christianity very well and the politics inside Catholic Church. One thing I know is that some Islamic Scholars must have heard the names I mentioned earlier and the the recent Catholic Bishops and their leader.

We now have Partisan Bishops whose candidate is known to everybody in Nigeria .

The Bishops are very Partisan. It's very obvious. In 2022 and 2023 they were very Partisan even before President Tinubu won an election and became President. The Partisanship of the Catholics is because majority of the population of the Catholics in Nigeria have political and tribal sentiment in support of a Candidate.

The Catholic Bishops sought a private audience with the President 7 months to election to do what? Because PETER OBI was crying about that Tinubu is hiding, Tinubu is not talking to Nigerians. Tinubu is hiding in Bunker, Tinubu should come out of his Bunker. The Catholic Bishops went to Presidential Villa on ESPIONAGE DUTY for PETER OBI to see if the President is in good health and to advise him not to CONTEST ELECTION. Is that possible? They failed woefully. The main purpose of seeking private audience with the President is to tell him not to Contest the 2027 Presidential Election. Is that possible?
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Reference(m): 6:26am On Aug 05
gideonvalor98:
Sultan don collect before and that was at the time protest was brimming in the North at the early stage of Tinubu's administration. But what you won't see sultan or any high rank Islamic leader do is to go public and talk anyhow against the government. You can't hear sultan meet with the president and he then go to TV station to attack the same person you spoke in private with. These our Christian religious leaders are somehow disgracing us. You'll see a so-called pastor causing the president on the pulpit. Some will be making predictions, some will even encourage their congregation to go violent during election. Why won't politicians use us to front their agenda. The church needs to respect itself and uphold INTERGRITY to avoid see finish.
The debate about 'the church' and 'the state' will continue forever, locked in a gravitational force field simply be cause it involves PEOPLE.

Both institutions have as their foundations, PEOPLE.
The lives of people, the futures of people, the prosperity of people. Both institutions are responsible.

The government secretly wished it could control the moral, the divine, the hearts of the people, wished it could cultivate the love, the devotion, the solidarity the church enjoys, but it can't.

The church on the other hand simply wished it could govern, control the minds of the people and enjoy the kind of power, and authority to accomplish the physical things God simply will not come down out of heaven to.

As the common denominator is up to the people to set bounds if they wish or mix then up as some would, playing one against the other to get the best of both worlds.

But in the real sense of it, the state tries it's best to give the church a wide berth out of respect and on the other hand the Lord Jesus Christ himself said, '...give unto Caesar, what is his...' and demonstrated his citizenship by paying his dues on demand demonstarting his loyalty to the state as an example to us all.

So any clashes do not come from authority on one side or the other. It comes ALWAYS and EVERYTIME from THE PEOPLE.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by Omoslim26: 6:47am On Aug 05
Basic123:
Ameachi is threading a dangerous path!

Ameachi is threading a dangerous path!

Its not even his party that will benefit from this religion sentiment that he is trying to whip
Muslim-Muslim ticket is the real religious sentiment.

It's just that We have brainwashed CALM Christians.

I know You are destined to be an hopeless zombie for bad governance hence nothing related to sense or truth can be found around You.

There's an arrangement that has gone on between the two most populous religious group since We entered Democratic era, why must the FAILURE ABOVE ALL FAILURES TPAIN break it?

Should tables be turned, everyone knows the Muslim society of Nigeria will rather the Country burns to the ground than allow such.

What is the result of this evil muslim-muslim ticket? Absolute CALAMITY.
It emboldened the terrorists and even made them dare move SOUTHland.

Mumuish Nigerian Christians are stuck-up with 24yrs of Islamic rule if They don't send this devilish clueless FAILURE above all failures called Tpain packing.

Bubu Muslim 8yrs.
Tpain has done 4,God save Nigeria He looses bcus if He completes His annihilation of the economy, He will hand over to a Muslim Northern nigga who will do another 8 yrs making it from bubu 8+8+8=24yrs. Nigerian Christians too MUMU abegi.

This is truly an ISLAMIC REPUBLIC the terrorists know tis, muslim-muslim ticket gives weight to Thier evil agenda.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by professorPABX: 6:55am On Aug 05
Reference:
The debate about 'the church' and 'the state' will continue forever, locked in a gravitational force field simply be cause it involves PEOPLE.

Both institutions have as their foundations, PEOPLE.
The lives of people, the futures of people, the prosperity of people. Both institutions are responsible.

The government secretly wished it could control the moral, the divine, the hearts of the people, wished it could cultivate the love, the devotion, the solidarity the church enjoys, but it can't.

The church on the other hand simply wished it could govern, control the minds of the people and enjoy the kind of power, and authority to accomplish the physical things God simply will not come down out of heaven to.

As the common denominator is up to the people to set bounds if they wish or mix then up as some would, playing one against the other to get the best of both worlds.

But in the real sense of it, the state tries it's best to give the church a wide berth out of respect and on the other hand the Lord Jesus Christ himself said, '...give unto Caesar, what is his...' and demonstrated his citizenship by paying his dues on demand demonstarting his loyalty to the state as an example to us all.

So any clashes do not come from authority on one side or the other. It comes ALWAYS and EVERYTIME from THE PEOPLE.
Which debate about the Church and the State? You said debate about 'the church' and 'the state' will continue forever, locked in a gravitational force field simply be cause it involves PEOPLE. Who is representing the Church? The Political Bishops? The Partisan Bishops. We witnessed how Adeboye and Kumuyi was insulted, blackmailed, harassed and attacked daily from late 2022 and early 2023 before election because they refused to speak against the candidacy of Tinubu and we saw how Partisanship the so called Original Bishops were fraternizing with their Candidate.

People said the Gospel Bishops that visited Tinubu are fake Bishops but failed to realize that the so called real Bishops were seen fraternizing with their own candidate on many Occasions before the Gospel Bishops arranged themselves in protest to visit Tinubu. God is not a respecter of person. Anointing is not by dressing.

Emeritus Archbishop of Lagos (Archbishop Olubunmi Okogie) , Baba Aladura Otubu, Prelate Sunday Mbang, Bishop Daniel Okoh, are clergymen that have engaged government on dialogue. Baba Okogie engaged the Military Government during IBB era. Baba Otubu of C&S Church also engaged the Military Government. We have the respectable Baba Prelate Sunday Mbang of the Methodist Church Nigeria and Bishop Nicholas Okoh of the Anglican Communion Nigeria and not forgetting Baba E.E Okon of The Apostolic Church Nigeria and Prophet Soyinka of The Apostolic Faith Nigeria. These are responsible and respectable Clergymen from the Christian fold that have engaged government at different times in the history of Nigeria. We know where they stand. Their stand is known.

Church in Nigeria presently has no representative. The leadership is only being controlled by sentiment of the majority of the members from a geo political area based on majority sentiment.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by dettolgel: 6:57am On Aug 05
omoredia:
How does that make sense? Are Christians not being victimized now? A people divided will have no respect
Tell me how many persons in Nigeria (let me restrict it to Nigeria) have been burned alive or beheaded for speaking against the Christian faith? In fact there are only two religions amongst the several world religions that you can not speak bad or even have a contrary opinion towards, and Christainity is not one of them. grin
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by LLMG: 7:01am On Aug 05
Faith734:
We are one Nigerian, let's leave in peace
To your tents oh Nigerians, there's nothing like one Nigeria. The south/middle belt has been used to service the north for decades, yet the only thing they have to offer is force their archaic ideology on those who have gone far ahead and above. It's so annoying.
Re: They Wouldn't Have Insulted The Sultan, It's Because We Are Christians - Amaechi by lightwind(m): 7:26am On Aug 05
Goonnik:
U will wail tire
Most people here are educated more than you, learn from them.
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