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stuffs2002:
You are in pains just because Iran dealt with the US you worship

Like I said....anything to make you sleep better at night is welcomed. .

erad:
OK. You're free to believe whatever and whomever you want to.

But then, Iran has been obliterated, yet they still have ballistic missiles and drones to keep the strait closed. They have been obliterated, yet American bases in the gulf states are constantly evacuating. They have been obliterated, yet Ukraine had to directly enter the war to attack an Iranian cargo vessel. They have been obliterated, yet America is considering ground invasion (which definitely won't end well for them).

No one is saying Iran is winning the war, far from it. But the world is at their mercy, and the world is under more pressure to find a solution to the war than Iran is. You can only bully people for so long.

Mattswaggz:
Like I said....anything to make you sleep better at night is welcomed. .

FSBoperator:
My point is that Hegseth is drunk again and lying as usual.

The US has severely deleted it's missile stockpile and is dangerously running low on conventional artillery rounds all courtesy of giving it all away to Israel to bomb Gaza and southern Lebanon and to Ukraine in their foolish war against Russia.

Depleting weapons stockpile is normal as they aren't there for fancy.....thinking they're very low on them is where the problem is and it will be stupid for anyone to actually believe that. .

Kushites:
I THOUGHT YOU SAID AMERICA WOULD CRUSH IRAN IN 2 DAYS?

IT'S 6 MONTHS NOW.

ISN'T IT TIME TO SHUT UP?

Basicend:
I agree with you.

However, the area of depletion is with their defensive missiles and batteries.

The US is trying to blow up Pickaxe mountain in Iran with a tactical nuk called B-61.
They will drop GBU-57s first to create deep blasts and penetration into the mountain before dropping the nuks.

US have thousands of those nuks. It will blast the bunker out front the ground. That's one of the major places where Iran kept it's enriched uranium and missiles. It's about 300 to 450 feet deep. Deeper than the strength of any conventional bunker busting bomb.

The confidence of Iran is in their mountains which has given them capacity to dig extensive bunkers.

FSBoperator:
US is not the top global arms producer by volume .

Russia alone far outproduce the US and entire NATO.

If you talk of overinflated wunderwaffen, then give it to the US.

Russia just unveiled a very cheap version of the US Tomahawk missile system that is going for about $150k compared to $2ml that the US military industrial complex charges for one Tomahawk missile.

As per drones, the US is nowhere near both China, Russia and Iran in drone production.

The Iranian Sahaed drone that runs on a lawnmower engine cost under $15k. China is building their own arsenal based on this same model at far lower cost. The US MIC will probably charge no less than $300k per unit.

The US MIC is garbage .

Mattswaggz:
Is this a subtle way of admitting your inability to read and comprehend English appropriately?....the post wasn't talking about interceptors so what's your point?. .

Mattswaggz:
Like I said....anything to make you sleep better at night is welcomed. .

Mattswaggz:
I can't remember saying that tho...maybe you're mistaking me for someone else.

FSBoperator:
My point is that Hegseth is drunk again and lying as usual.

The US has severely deleted it's missile stockpile and is dangerously running low on conventional artillery rounds all courtesy of giving it all away to Israel to bomb Gaza and southern Lebanon and to Ukraine in their foolish war against Russia.

BornofGod108:
You’re half right and half talking nonsense.

Yes Russia is outproducing in shells and yes US weapons are overpriced. $2M Tomahawk vs $15k Shahed proves it.

But "US MIC is garbage"? The same MIC is defending Israel, running 800 bases, and has 11 carriers. Russia and Iran can’t do that.

We’re not out of weapons. We’re out of cheap weapons. That’s the real issue.

FSBoperator:
All bases in the ME have been abandoned save for that in Jordan.


Carriers are obsolete and the US Navy knows it that in a hot war with a nuclear power, those carrier fleets will be sitting in the bottom of the ocean.

Defending Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah who are armed with just small arms fire is not an achievement.

BornofGod108:
Facts: Yes the US sent weapons to Ukraine and Israel and some stocks like 155mm shells got low.

Lies: "Severely depleted" and "dangerously running low".

The US makes more munitions in 3 years than Ukraine and Israel have fired combined. Nukes, carriers and bombers are untouched.

Mattswaggz:
Every sensible person doesn't need to be told this.....how can a top arm producing and exporting country like US run low on ammunition just because of this war that hasn't even lasted a year?. ....that was how we kept on hearing how Russia ran out of weapons just few months into their conflict with Ukraine but till today they're still firing at will....some propagandas are too dvmb seriously.

Kushites:
You said even worse, and are still talking rubbish today, so SHUT UP.

If the US could beat Iran, they would have done so many months ago.

They can't. So shut up and go home.

BornofGod108:
Wrong.

US bases in the ME are not abandoned. US still has troops in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, and Jordan. Only some were downsized, not closed.

Carriers are not obsolete. That’s why China and Russia are building their own. In a war vs a nuclear power no surface ship is "safe", but carriers still project power no other country can match. US has 11, Russia has 1, China has 3.

Defending Israel was not vs "small arms". It was vs 300+ Iranian ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones in one night. Hamas and Hezbollah have ATGMs and rockets too.

You can hate US policy, but lying about US capabilities doesn’t make Russia or Iran stronger.

FSBoperator:
Trump just sacked the captain of a US nuclear submarine .

This will be the latest of several dozens of US Generals that Trump and Hegseth have sacked for telling them the truth.

As everything stands, Israelis are just setting Trump up to have only the nuclear option left in dealing with Iran, Russia and China.

Those Israelis are hell bent on kicking off a global nuclear holocaust as it fits right in with their satanic superstitions that there must be a massive die off by fire of humanity to usher in their Messiah.

If you think I am talking trash, know now that Netanyahu's cabinet is filled to the brim with Jewish zealots who subscribe to the Jewish Messiah doctrine that they believe must be unvieled before 2030.

Palestinians are the red heifers that are being ritually slaughtered to pave way fir the building of the third Temple as Jews believe they are direct descendants of Esau .

The mass holocaust ritual is to commence on the whole planet to allow the Jewish Messiah aka antichrist appear.

akinszz:
Try to dey lie small small now. Google is there for you to make Little research now. How can America make 50000 fighter jets a year when the world as whole do not have up to 30000 military planes. Fighter jets na biscuit.

FSBoperator:
Copium.

Iranian proxies just overrun the US based in Erbil, Iraq.

US bases in Qatar, Saudi and Kuwait have all been shuttered.

The US no longer uses their air bases in these countries but is now restricted to Jordan and surprisingly Israel.

Their so-called best ally had refused US jets from using their bases but since the first US-Iran war, that saw to US military assets being bombed, the Israelis were forced to allow the US operate from their bases.

It's all a cluster fck which has exposed the US military as a paper tiger and Iran has made it clear that all those US military bases close to its borders in and around the Gulf kingdom states will never be allowed to return.

This is why Saudi Arabia signed a military pact with Nuclear armed Pakistan because the Americans have been exposed to be useless in defending the Gulf Kingdom states and has shown it will rather priorize defending Israel.

Kushites:
You said even worse, and are still talking rubbish today, so SHUT UP.

If the US could beat Iran, they would have done so many months ago.

They can't. So shut up and go home.

First of all, present the evidence of the first accusation let's see. .

maasoap:
Continue telling us the difference between the two as if USA can continue the war against Iran if they runs out of defensive missiles but still have plenty of attacking missiles, Mr Comprehension

Mattswaggz:
Every sensible person doesn't need to be told this.....how can a top arm producing and exporting country like US run low on ammunition just because of this war that hasn't even lasted a year?. ....that was how we kept on hearing how Russia ran out of weapons just few months into their conflict with Ukraine but till today they're still firing at will....some propagandas are too dvmb seriously.

BornofGod108:
"Copium" 😂 Bro you just made half of that up.

1. Erbil: No US base was "overrun". There were rocket attacks. US troops are still there. Same with Syria.
2. Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi: US still operates from Al Udeid, Naval Base Bahrain, Al Dhafra, and Prince Sultan. Some missions were reduced, none were "shuttered". Jordan is not the only one.
3. Israel: US jets absolutely use Israeli bases for refueling and joint drills. That never stopped.
4. Saudi + Pakistan: That pact is about missiles and nukes, not because the US "left". The US still sells Saudi billions in air defense and still has CENTCOM in Qatar.

US bases didn’t disappear. US posture changed because the threat changed. That’s not "paper tiger". That’s strategy.

BornofGod108:
You jumped from munitions to "satanic Messiah and red heifers" real quick.

1. Trump did fire officers. That happens in every administration. Doesn’t mean the US Navy is empty. US still has 14 ballistic missile subs and the largest nuclear arsenal on earth.

2. Israel is not "setting up" the US for nuclear war. The US makes its own decisions. US struck Iran nuclear sites and stopped. That was policy, not being dragged.

3. The rest about Messiah doctrine and red heifers is YouTube theology, not geopolitics. Netanyahu’s cabinet is political, not running rituals to start WW3.

Stick to the argument: Can the US fight or not. The answer is yes. The question is price and politics. Not "global holocaust".

FSBoperator:
Cope.

BornofGod108:
"If the US could beat Iran they would have"

Bro that’s not how war works. The US didn’t go to war with Iran. US struck nuclear sites and left. That was the mission.

The US has not "failed" to beat Iran. The US chose not to start a full ground war in the Middle East. Big difference.

If the US wanted regime change in Iran it could do it. The question is cost, casualties, and what happens after. Not capability.

Stop confusing restraint with weakness.