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Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:19pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
Iran has constantly denied ever entering or requesting peace talks with the untrustworthy Trump WH.

Trump modus is to talk tough every Friday just after the market closes and by Monday morning before the markets open, spew lies that he is in talks with Iran and on the verge of signing a peace deal .

All this just to manipulate the market to make bank through insider trading and to douse any panic over a full blown war with Iran and to give the false impression that the straits will soon be open to traffic.

Trump even just launched a special app add on for his Truth Social that will require 100k monthly subscription to get info directly from him before he makes an official announcement .

This of course is just Trump trying his hands at selling info to his fellow market manipulators to either sell or buy crude futures depending on what nonsense bs he is set to announce.

The Democrats are already compiling this as one of too many of Trump and his family members insider trading.

The Orangutan and his entire family will soon run to Israel before impeachment notice are served on him by the incoming DNC majority Congress.

It's over for Zion Don, Israel and ZoG
Now we’re talking stocks instead of missiles? 😂 You ran out of war arguments

1. Peace talks
Iran denies, Trump claims. Classic. But oil didn’t hit $200, tankers are still moving Hormuz, and US isn’t bombing again. That only happens when both sides are de-escalating behind closed doors. Call it "talks" or call it "backchannel". Result is the same: no war.

2. Truth Social + insider trading
If Trump was making billions off oil futures, Dems would have impeached him yesterday. They’ve been "compiling" since 2016. Still 0 convictions. You can hate him, but "app subscription" isn’t a war outcome.

3. "Zion Don + Israel + ZoG is over"
US still has 11 carriers, 14 SSBNs, $1.5T budget, Al Udeid, Bahrain, UAE. Israel still has Iron Dome, Arrow, and US support. If it’s "over", why is nobody closing bases or pulling carriers?

4. War scoreboard
US: hit nuclear sites, 0 KIA, left.
Iran: took hits, survived, now doing proxy shots and denials.
Nobody won. But nobody lost a war either because nobody fought a full war.[b]

You keep moving goalposts: munitions → color revolution → Kurds → Gulf → now Trump stocks.
Stick to one: Did US strike Iran and leave with 0 losses? Yes.
Did Iran stop US from striking? No.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:24pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
There was no plan for a US Naval standoff or an invasion of Iran in Trump's plan.

He waged hard on the CIA/Mossad color revolution and his decapitation strikes on Iranian political and military leadership to end the regime and from there a power vacuum in Tehran that would naturally see to that country balkanizing along ethnic lines or falling into a protracted long civil war.

But the color revolution failed and when Trump began his decapitation strikes he was constantly begging Iranians to overthrow their govt.

But none of that happened and the last thing Trump and his Neocons ever factored was Iranian response which was wave after wave of missile and drone strikes on Israel and ever Gulf Kingdom state that the US launched their air strikes from.

So the US had to supply Israel with Patriot batteries and missiles alongside THAAD batteries designed primarily to take out ballistic missiles.

But these systems were so ineffective that they had an interception rate less than 15% and required at least 4-5 missiles to take out one Iranian ballistic missile.

Given the cost per unit of each interceptor compared to an Iranian missile that cost a fraction of what each missile interceptor cost, the US was bleeding it's missile arsenal that they decided to priorize protecting that parasite state over the Gulf Kingdom states that actually fund the US military.

So Hegseth is a liar.

The US is low on patriot missiles as well as their initially highly limited THAAD batteries and missiles that were designed solely to protect the US mainland and not Israel from Russian ballistic missiles.

As I said, there was no plan by the Neocons to even have a naval blockade over the straits of Hormuz talk more of a ground invasion because they believed too much on their color revolution setting things off .

One of the greatest tragedies in war is when a General constantly deploys the same winning tactic .

The saying "why change a plan if it's working " is what got the US into this mess because they believed too much on their color revolution that was successful in Syria and Libya.

There's never going to be a ground invasion because the US will bleed badly if they tried it because geography is not on their side when it comes to invading Iran. Those mountains are a real natural defensive asset to Iran .

If any of you think Trump is going to order a ground invasion, then ask why he hasn't done so against the Houthis in Yemen who also have terrain factor to their advantage.
Big essay to explain why nothing you predicted happened 😂

1. No invasion plan
Correct. US never planned to invade Iran. Mountains, 90M people, $1.5T war cost. No general is that dumb. Mission was always: hit nukes, degrade, leave. That’s what happened.

2. Color revolution + decapitation
If that was the plan and it failed, that’s Iran being competent, not US being "weak". Iran shut internet, arrested agents, rallied. Good for them. Doesn’t mean US lost a war we didn’t fight.

3. "15% interception rate + bleeding Patriots/THAAD"
US fired interceptors vs drones + cheap missiles. Of course the ratio is bad. $4M interceptor vs $50k drone will always look bad on paper. That’s why US budget is $1.5T in 2026 - to refill and to build cheaper lasers/hypersonics.
"Low on stockpiles" ≠ "out". US still supplies Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still runs 11 carriers. Production is slow, not zero.

4. "Prioritizing Israel over Gulf"
US bases in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait are still open. 5th Fleet still patrols. If US "bled out" protecting Israel, why are those bases untouched and Hormuz still open?

5. "No ground invasion because mountains"
Exactly. Which is why US didn’t try it. You can’t call it a "quagmire" and "impossible invasion" in the same breath. Pick one.

Bottom line: US plan was limited strike. Done.
Iran plan was survive + retaliate. Also done.
You’re mad the war didn’t turn into Iraq 2.0 or Libya 2.0. It didn’t. That’s not a US loss. That’s escalation control.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:36pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator

I'm not using grok AI slop. Plain English. And you’re still dodging facts 😂


You called it "Operation Epstein Fury" to sound clever. US called it a limited strike. It ended.

1. Missile stock
Yes US fired a lot of interceptors. They cost more than Iranian drones. That’s how missile defense works. "Depleted" doesn’t mean "empty". 2026 US budget is $1.5T. US still arms Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still has 11 carriers + 14 SSBNs. If we were "empty" we’d be closing bases. We’re not.

2. Naval blockade + Hormuz
If Iranians "control" the straits, why are oil tankers still moving every day? Why didn’t Iran close it after US hit their nukes? Because closing Hormuz = $200 oil and Iran gets bombed again. That’s not control. That’s fear.

3. Ground invasion
We agree. There was no plan for it. Mountains + 90M people = suicide. So don’t call it a "quagmire" when US never put troops in. You can’t lose a ground war you didn’t fight.

4. Israel + Gulf
Netanyahu talks tough. US still gives Israel Iron Dome, Arrow, and intel. Gulf bases in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait are still open. 5th Fleet is still there. If US is a "weak protector", why haven’t the Gulf kicked US out?

5. War scoreboard
US: hit nuclear sites, 0 KIA, left.
Iran: got hit, survived, now doing proxy shots and denials.
No winner. No loser. Just no full war.[b]

You keep changing the topic because the first argument died.
Munitions → color revolution → Kurds → stocks → now "Grok AI slop".

Answer this straight: Did US strike Iran and leave without losing a ship or a base? Yes or no.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by IAM4BAT4plus4: 12:00pm On Aug 06
Mattswaggz:
Every sensible person doesn't need to be told this.....how can a top arm producing and exporting country like US run low on ammunition just because of this war that hasn't even lasted a year?. grin grin cheesy....that was how we kept on hearing how Russia ran out of weapons just few months into their conflict with Ukraine but till today they're still firing at will....some propagandas are too dvmb seriously.
You have been fed with enough lies and propaganda to last you your entire life 😂 😂 😂 😂




By the way, who is controlling the strait of Hormuz?
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by Mattswaggz: 12:11pm On Aug 06
IAM4BAT4plus4:
You have been fed with enough lies and propaganda to last you your entire life 😂 😂 😂 😂




By the way, who is controlling the strait of Hormuz?
You can answer the question yourself in such a way that'll make you sleep better at night. grin .
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by FSBoperator: 2:18pm On Aug 06
BornofGod108:
FSBoperator

I'm not using grok AI slop. Plain English. And you’re still dodging facts 😂


You called it "Operation Epstein Fury" to sound clever. US called it a limited strike. It ended.

1. Missile stock
Yes US fired a lot of interceptors. They cost more than Iranian drones. That’s how missile defense works. "Depleted" doesn’t mean "empty". 2026 US budget is $1.5T. US still arms Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still has 11 carriers + 14 SSBNs. If we were "empty" we’d be closing bases. We’re not.

2. Naval blockade + Hormuz
If Iranians "control" the straits, why are oil tankers still moving every day? Why didn’t Iran close it after US hit their nukes? Because closing Hormuz = $200 oil and Iran gets bombed again. That’s not control. That’s fear.

3. Ground invasion
We agree. There was no plan for it. Mountains + 90M people = suicide. So don’t call it a "quagmire" when US never put troops in. You can’t lose a ground war you didn’t fight.

4. Israel + Gulf
Netanyahu talks tough. US still gives Israel Iron Dome, Arrow, and intel. Gulf bases in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait are still open. 5th Fleet is still there. If US is a "weak protector", why haven’t the Gulf kicked US out?

5. War scoreboard
US: hit nuclear sites, 0 KIA, left.
Iran: got hit, survived, now doing proxy shots and denials.
No winner. No loser. Just no full war.[b]

You keep changing the topic because the first argument died.
Munitions → color revolution → Kurds → stocks → now "Grok AI slop".

Answer this straight: Did US strike Iran and leave without losing a ship or a base? Yes or no.
Save your weak lies for yourself

Trump and Hegseth crashed over weapons shortages.

Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both persons familiar said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/05/trump-hegseth-clashed-camp-david-over-iran-missile-depletion-concerns/
https://archive.is/H7xrt

So Oga rest

Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by FSBoperator: 2:21pm On Aug 06
Mattswaggz:
You can answer the question yourself in such a way that'll make you sleep better at night. grin .
By the way, Trump confirmed the story was true
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-missile-leakers-truth-social-hegseth-b3028546.html

US has run out of interceptor missiles .

Trump now threatening to jail whistleblower behind missile depletion leaks .

This is foolish because everyone that has been versed in US military inventory via budget review knows exactly how many missiles were procured, how many are in stock, which MIC company supplied which missile and how many and their rates of re stocking and maintainance if existing missile systems.

So why is Hegesth lying that the US stockpile is still intact?

Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by jeff1607(m): 7:55pm On Aug 06
Mattswaggz:
Kaiiii...be careful with me. cool grin .
No let me cross road come meet you oo grin cool
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by Mattswaggz: 8:20pm On Aug 06
jeff1607:
No let me cross road come meet you oo grin cool
Cross na...na your own teeth go full ground ooo. grin grin grin cool.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by Mattswaggz: 8:21pm On Aug 06
FSBoperator:
By the way, Trump confirmed the story was true
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-missile-leakers-truth-social-hegseth-b3028546.html

US has run out of interceptor missiles .

Trump now threatening to jail whistleblower behind missile depletion leaks .

This is foolish because everyone that has been versed in US military inventory via budget review knows exactly how many missiles were procured, how many are in stock, which MIC company supplied which missile and how many and their rates of re stocking and maintainance if existing missile systems.

So why is Hegesth lying that the US stockpile is still intact?
So now it's "interceptors"?....you go talk true las las.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by FSBoperator: 8:36pm On Aug 06
Mattswaggz:
So now it's "interceptors"?....you go talk true las las.
They are running low on interceptors , cruise missiles and artillery ammo

Oya twist another lie because you are the Pentagon spokesman assigned to NL.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by Mattswaggz: 10:08pm On Aug 06
FSBoperator:
They are running low on interceptors , cruise missiles and artillery ammo

Oya twist another lie because you are the Pentagon spokesman assigned to NL.
Lol...similar story we heard in the early stages of Russian-Ukraine war and till today it hasn't finished.....try get sense abeg.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by FSBoperator: 10:16pm On Aug 06
Mattswaggz:
Lol...similar story we heard in the early stages of Russian-Ukraine war and till today it hasn't finished.....try get sense abeg.
That was what you NAFO guys were spewing against Russia.

But now Russia is out producing the US and NATO combined by a factor of ten and Russia ihas not yet effected a war economy.

The US is dire straits and may be the ones stripping washing machines for chips to make drones since China has banned selling chips to the US.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by Mattswaggz: 10:23am On Aug 07
FSBoperator:
That was what you NAFO guys were spewing against Russia.

But now Russia is out producing the US and NATO combined by a factor of ten and Russia ihas not yet effected a war economy.

The US is dire straits and may be the ones stripping washing machines for chips to make drones since China has banned selling chips to the US.
Lol....you see you guys problem....you're always arguing blindly and sentimentally and that's why propaganda like this can get to you guys easily because it's exactly what you want to hear to be able to sleep better at night. grin grin grin .

Firstly, I am not "NATO" or whatsoever you mean guy and I am not against Russia doing the needful against a potential security threat....but since I use logic and not sentiments, same way I laughed at the news of Russia running out of missiles then is the same way I am laughing at this report now.....only people like you will take it serious.
Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 5:16am On Aug 08
FSBoperator:
Save your weak lies for yourself

Trump and Hegseth crashed over weapons shortages.

Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both persons familiar said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/05/trump-hegseth-clashed-camp-david-over-iran-missile-depletion-concerns/
https://archive.is/H7xrt

So Oga rest
Bro calm down 😂 You’re quoting the article but twisting it.

That WaPo article you posted is about ammo logistics on Aug 5, not defeat. Every war burns missiles then re-orders. US budget is $1.5T in 2026. We’re still arming Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan + running 11 carriers.
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