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| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by Jayboi(m): 2:30pm On Aug 18 |
Exactlyy point. The level of intimidation was just out of place. So many governors plus security agents plus federal power. Adeleke. You be bulldozer |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by KingRabota: 3:03pm On Aug 18 |
Grand Commander of the Federal Republic Grand Commander Order of the Niger These are the highest national awards that your country can offer any of its citizens. These 2 are usually reserved for presidents JuanDeDios: |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 3:03pm On Aug 18 |
The difference is that APC did not deploy full military might of the FG and loot the treasury to as gej did in 2013 install a political pariah in ekiti as governor We remember very well. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by JuanDeDios: 3:51pm On Aug 18 |
KingRabota:Oh, I know the awards. You missed my point. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by anonimi: 3:56pm On Aug 18 |
victorazyvictor:The drunkER did a much better job than APC's clueless duo of Buhari and Tinubu in all areas of governance, including corruption. thisweekng:@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ socialmediaman:
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| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by keemsleek(m): 4:04pm On Aug 18 |
Odidigboigbo:Which order? In April 2014, the PDP Governors' Forum, chaired by Akwa Ibom Governor Godswill Akpabio, publicly declared that PDP governors would work to take back Osun, specifically congratulating Iyiola Omisore and promising to support him. Fifteen governors and three deputy governors attended that particular governors' meeting. � The Nation Online +1 When Omisore formally declared his governorship ambition in February 2014, reports said Vice-President Namadi Sambo, Senate President David Mark, PDP governors, National Assembly members and PDP executives were expected to attend. � Vanguard News Most importantly, Jonathan himself physically came to Osun for the PDP's major rally in Osogbo on 2 August 2014, just one week before the election. Vice-President Sambo and other top PDP figures were also there. � Vanguard News Contemporary accounts also specifically allege that PDP leaders from Anambra, Lagos, Ogun and Ekiti were in Osun during the election, with military and police protection, while APC leaders were being arrested. That allegation came from the APC/Falana side, so it should be treated as a reported allegation rather than an independently established |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 4:21pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:Come on. APC has done the same in many instances. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by anonimi: 4:33pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:The records show that APC is much worse than PDP in these things, including corruption. How else is Tinubu and Buhari borrowing more than PDP presidents who gave us cheap petrol, cheap dollars, prosperity, peace and security? socialmediaman:@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ gabydaniels: |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 4:38pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:I know you stan for saint GEJ but he is the LAST person who should be talking like this same for OBJ who is now forming defender of democracy you can celebrate Adelekes victory in osun, but the truth is that if APC had gone as hard as PDP/GEJ did in 2013, the election would have been a walkover https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/197776-how-jonathan-provided-billions-military-support-to-rig-fayose-into-office-pdp-chieftain.html A former secretary of the Ekiti State chapter of the governing Peoples Democratic Party, Tope Aluko, on Sunday revealed how former President Goodluck Jonathan gave the then candidate of the party, Ayo Fayose, large sums of money and military support to help rig the governorship election held in the state in 2014.we lived through this history so i'm not sue where the deification of run of the mill nigerian politicians is coming from |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 4:42pm On Aug 18 |
anonimi:https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/197776-how-jonathan-provided-billions-military-support-to-rig-fayose-into-office-pdp-chieftain.html?tztc=1 A former secretary of the Ekiti State chapter of the governing Peoples Democratic Party, Tope Aluko, on Sunday revealed how former President Goodluck Jonathan gave the then candidate of the party, Ayo Fayose, large sums of money and military support to help rig the governorship election held in the state in 2014.those were the times when nigeria was great - when gej turned NSA to a dollar dispensing ATM to prosecute elections. no wonder pdp stalwarts keep wailing about the economy - they no longer have free money and actually have to work for a living. sad |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by anonimi: 4:48pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:If things are not WORSE now, why is debt mounting despite subsidy removal on petrol and dollars, with worsening unemployment and economic decline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WzbBqAWPfI Aug 29, 2023 Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister for the Economy, Mr. Wale Edun made this known at the end of the inaugural Federal Executive Council meeting in Abuja. Mr. Edun said that the benefit of the subsidy removal will be plough back into various sectors to improve business environment for local and foreign investment. He added that with the increased revenue from subsidy removal, various palliatives have been made available to cushion its effect on a short, medium and long-term basis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn29b0SkCWU?si=s_-vTlCqSlykI0BX Ofunaofu: |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 4:54pm On Aug 18 |
anonimi:the APC administrations borrowed money to fund infrastructure your precious pdp looted money to fund elections know the difference https://www.thecable.ng/emefiele-fg-to-toll-lagos-ibadan-expressway-2nd-niger-bridge-to-repay-infrastructure-loans/ Godwin Emefiele, governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), says the federal government will toll the Lagos-Ibadan expressway, Abuja-Kano road, and the second Niger Bridge to repay loans used to fund the project.of course the next thing you will say is infrastructure like the 2nd niger bridge is a waste of money ![]() |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 4:55pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:With every respect sir, you are the one who has consistently deified BAT. In this country no fair minded person can even attempt to compare the democratic credentials of both, whether we speak of freedom of the democratic space, freedom of opposition, the rule of law and human rights. BAT already has a grim record with respect to all of these. We are all living witnesses to the illegal removal of a democratic government in Rivers State. We have seen how many people have been arrested for their words. Please remind me of one such case with GEJ. There were subsidy protests on a massive scale in 2012. Can you compare the government reaction to what happened with either ENDSARS or ENDBadGovernance? Please and please you are the biased one here - and abundantly so. It is very rich to talk about looting of the treasury to install a pariah. Of course selective memory will cancel out the memory of anyone moving bullion vans to his house on the eve of an election. Of course selective memory will forget all the billions looted from Lagos and used to fund a pariah as president of this country. I can go on and on and cite a zillion examples - in too many cases where one may even say both and even all politicians are complicit, you would single out GEJ and turn a blind eye to BAT. For some strange reason you seem to have a special hatred for GEJ and a special love for BAT. I hope its not a tribe/ religion thing. Because honestly there are few people who would tell you that GEJ was worse than BAT in any respect. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by anonimi: 5:00pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:Any idea why the economy has wobbled and fumbled despite the rumoured spending on infrastructure by APC extreme poverty and insecurity shege politicians? Meanwhie, I guess you are unaware of this update to what you shared about Ekiti, PDP election and Aluko, or are you ![]() Court orders arrest of ex-PDP secretary, Aluko for perjury
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| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:02pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:This says it all for me. That you can say this shows something else is at play. Because I know you are old enough and have seen enough of Nigerian history not to make this kind of statement. But its fine. I understand you. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by anonimi: 5:04pm On Aug 18 |
PDPdestroyer:You are missing the update to your screaming headline. Let me help you. Court orders arrest of ex-PDP secretary, Aluko for perjury |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:10pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:Under gej/pdp there only media house doing hard reporting on corruption died a natural death - 234 next under gej there was a brazen attempt to run a jan 6 . we can all remember how atahiru jega stood up to orubebe. If you call the ekiti election freedom of opposition well . . . I will also remind you how the subsidy protests ended - with the military. that is the true face of a democrat? or militanst threatening Pengassan officals? also saint gej had the military lay siege to tinubus residence https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/soldiers-deployed-tinubus-lagos-home/ https://thenationonlineng.net/soldiers-lay-siege-tinubus-home-imo-govt-house/ then again i have always said GEJ was at best a weak figurehead so you can attribute all of that to his underlings as an out ![]() Tinubu is APC but pinning end sars on him is disingenuous since at that point in time team buhari had effectively sidelined BAT, but you do you We are all living witnesses to the illegal removal of a democratic government in Rivers State.an oil pipeline was bombed and tinubu should have folded his hands and allowed some cowboys to usher in a new age of pipeline vandalisation when nigerias income was on the line? |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:13pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:Before I respond to the above, note I editted my post above to add the following - It is very rich to talk about looting of the treasury to install a pariah. Of course selective memory will cancel out the memory of anyone moving bullion vans to his house on the eve of an election. Of course selective memory will forget all the billions looted from Lagos and used to fund a pariah as president of this country. I can go on and on and cite a zillion examples - in too many cases where one may even say both and even all politicians are complicit, you would single out GEJ and turn a blind eye to BAT. For some strange reason you seem to have a special hatred for GEJ and a special love for BAT. I hope its not a tribe/ religion thing. Because honestly there are few people who would tell you that GEJ was worse than BAT in any respect. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:21pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:So Channels and Arise, etc, were not. This is truly funny. You should not allow yourself to slide this far. You are better than this. under gej there was a brazen attempt to run a jan 6 . we can all remember how atahiru jega stood up to orubebe.Lol. Orubebe's madness is now GEJ? GEJ who remains congratulated for conceding peacefully and not even going to court? Come on man, this is absurd. You are showing your hand in a comical way. I will also remind you how the subsidy protests ended - with the military. that is the true face of a democrat?Yes the military were deployed as they would be but tell me one single infraction they are accused of? Just name one. By contrast we know what happened with EndSARS and EndBad Governance. or militanst threatening Pengassan officals?Now this is desperation. also saint gej had the military lay siege to tinubus residenceNothing happened. then again i have always said GEJ was at best a weak figurehead so you can attribute all of that to his underlings as an outI agree he was weak and also corrupt. Will you even agree that BAT is corrupt? You will say its necessary and its strategy. Tinubu is APC but pinning end sars on him is disingenuous since at that point in time team buhari had effectively sidelined BAT, but you do you1. Everyone knows of Tinubu's involvement in ENDSARS through the Governor who requested the military. Have you also seen the report of the Lagos State Judicial Panel of Inquiry on the matter? 2. EndBadGovernance nko? an oil pipeline was bombed and tinubu should have folded his hands and allowed some cowboys to usher in a new age of pipeline vandalisation when nigerias income was on the line?Declaration of a State of Emergency is within his powers, removal of the democatic government is ultra vires and illegal. Also, why has the same not been done in all the states where terrorists are running around and killing hundreds weekly? Stop joking abeg. Everyone knows what happened there was entirely political. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:26pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:because BAT stood up to pdp for 16 years. He fought every step of the way. He was not handed anything. He did not cry about the hand he was dealt. He played the game that pdp created. No one is going to win elections in Nigeria without a war chest. He did far more for democracy than all these ex pdp stalwarts who had turned Nigeria to a single party country. Every other political partybwas effectively a pdp satellite party. Did you not read how Gejs admin gave falae 100 million to prosecute elections? And if BAT was the dictator you like to claim he is, he can do like OBJ and shut down every single member of the opposition. We saw OBJ do it to Jim nwobdo of savannah bank. We saw him use EFCC to harass Mike Adenuga till he left Nigeria That is what makes Gejs hypocrisy disgusting. An undeserving beneficiary of a political machine who did Fk-all but squander money. What infrastructure did gej build in his 6 YEARS? All he did was run through the eca creating an illusion of wealth. Something any person going through a good run can do. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:29pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:You are not objective. I am. Because I can tell you many good things about BAT such as his NADECO struggle, his stance against OBJ, his raising of many quality leaders. I am sure you cant mention one good thing about GEJ which shows irrational hatred. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:38pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:Did you read 234next stories when the paper was alive? Diezani and Chris aire? Incidentally gej went to testify that he instructed diezani on everything she did ![]() 1. Everyone knows of Tinubu's involvement in ENDSARS through the Governor who requested the military. Have you also seen the report of the Lagos State Judicial Panel of Inquiry on the matter?Ehm everybody knows won't cut this. Also, why has the same not been done in all the states where terrorists are running around and killing hundreds weekly?Nigeria runs on oil. Nigeria has been failing to meet its quotas. Nigeria has loans currently being serviced by oil. Nigerian needs money to pay soldiers, buy weapons. But tinubu should sit back and watch the fight between Wike and fubara extend to our only source of income. 2. EndBadGovernance nko?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_Bad_Governance_protests From Wikipedia Protesters in Kano State waved Russian flags, calling for President Vladimir Putin's intervention and showing discontent with President Tinubu's administration.[49][50] The Russian embassy in Abuja subsequently said that the flags were the "personal choices" of protesters and denied interfering in Nigeria's internal affairs.[51] |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:40pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:Dollar was under n300 when he was in office ![]() He did not do like most elevated politicians and discard his bush wife He would have given Nigeria it's first female president (okonjo iweala) if he had been able to squash apc I try? |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:42pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:Are you seruiously saying you believe the State of Emergency was declared because of that laughable false flag non-incident? If you say so, I will be sad to say that you are not an honest discussant. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:44pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:An attack on a pipeline was a false flag? In a region full of youths itching for the good old days of militancy when ateke and co got rich? OK ooo. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:46pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:So. It had nothing to do with the godfather problem twixt Wike and Fubara. Are you for real? Secondly, did you see video of the said attack? |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 5:52pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:You try small. Small because you have chosen mostly soft things as opposed to the major things he should be noted for. Seriously he was weak and corrupt. Let us acknowledge that BAT is strong and corrupt. And has tyrannical tendencies. BAT also has scant regard for the rule of law. Both lecturer presidents had the best regard for the rule of law (Yaradua/GEJ). There is no way on Earth posterity will judge them equally. One is gonna be judged kindly in spite of his flaws. For the other, he will live in infamy. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 5:55pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:Of course it had to do with Wike and fubara. Did I say otherwise? https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/784436-ex-rivers-hos-accuses-fubara-of-bombing-state-assembly-complex.html Fubara and Wike are both thugs, but fubara was the governor in a state of escalating internal violence. He did himself no favours by his initial actions which made the case against him. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 6:00pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:Escalating internal violence where NOT ONE person was killed and yet we have the northern states and whats going on there . . . . Come on. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 6:07pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:Yardua who reversed sale of refineries? Anyone who dies or is exited early in his first term will always have posterity on his side. We saw the same with Buhari who in hindsight would have been great as a works minister but lousy as a presidentI do not believe BAT has tyrannical tendencies for the simple reason that when he lost to NURTW in court, he found a way to work with them. According to you he was 100% remote controlling Lagos state govt, but LASG had to bend for tanker drivers. Whenever lastma seized a tanker parking on the road, the tanker drivers went on strike Under saint gej when pengassan went on strike during the occupy Nigeria protests, thug for hire and current paddy of BAT orobo 1 of ijawland Asari fattykubo was sending threats to pengassan officials. All I will say is if Tinubu was determined to win in osun he would have deployed the full security apparatus and nothing would have happened. You forget that apc has lost multiple times before. Ekiti, Ondo. Kwara. And that time when they had to give omisore concessions in osun What I would say tinubu does that I don't like is he can accommodate his political enemy of yesterday over his political friend of today. It happened in kwara where the belgores were in apc. Belgores were opponents to saraki. I'm the run up to 2015 saraki entered apc, so the belgores exited. And after all was said and done saraki pulled a Brutus on APC. Same with Amaechi /Wike,though Amaechi did not do him self any favours by over aligning with team Buhari. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by GloriousGbola: 6:10pm On Aug 18 |
DeepSight:There is a political cartoon I read many years ago where bosnians were asking gwb1 when the west would intervene in Yugoslavia like they did in Kuwait . And bush said something about their lack of oil. The hard truth is that any govt will first focus on ensuring it secures it's cash flow over anything else. |
| Re: Osun And The Need To Set New Boundaries For Political Conduct- Goodluck Jonathan by DeepSight(m): 6:14pm On Aug 18 |
GloriousGbola:You pick relatively small issues to damn those you dont like while ignoring humonguous scandals on the part of BAT. Look at your only criticism of him in bold, ever so mild and quite a non-issue. As for this Osun election it was clear that he was ambivalent and did not mind an Adeleke victory too much. Adeleke would have been in APC if not for the resistance of others like Oyetola, Omisore and co. |
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who in hindsight would have been great as a works minister but lousy as a president