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TenQ
Lastly I came back for you on this topic
🤣🤣🤣

Sahih Muslim 94 b
Abu Dharr reported,: I came to the Apostle (may peace be upon him ) and he was asleep with a white mantle over him. I again came, he was still asleep, I came again and he had awakened. I sat by his side and (the Holy Prophet) observed: There is none among the bondsmen who affirmed his faith in La illaha ill-Allah there is no God but Allah) and died in this state and did not enter Paradise. I (Abu Dharr) said: Even if he committed adultery and theft? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. I (again said): Even if he committed adultery and theft? He replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. (The Holy Prophet repeated it three times) and said for the fourth time: In defiance of Abu Dharr. Abu Dharr then went out and he repeated (these words): In defiance of Abu Dharr.
[/quote]This Hadith was only talking about that there no offenses Allah cannot forgive us from Expect (shrik) attributing partner with Allah such as calling other God e.g.
Three in 1 nescafe God aka TRINITY, JESUS, OGUN, SANGO AND ALL OTHERS THINGS MAN WORSHIP
But that doesn't mean doing bad thing God will not accounts it again or wouldn't asked about it, not punished the person for it .

And guess what, you are free from the consequences when you commit these EVILS

and you said this with your roten mouth óò

Christianity/Christians are too bias
TenQ you are too bias 🤣🤣🤣
According to the bible
My bible says 🤣🤣🤣

David killed his solder by sending him to war front
Also sleep with her babe but YAHWEH forgive him 🤣🤣🤣

Saul killed thousands of people and when he became Paul/ Christian God forgives him ,🤣🤣
Moses killed but when calling came he was forgive

Verse: Jonah 3:8–10.
The people of Nineveh
They were known for violence and bloodshed. They repented, and God showed them mercy.
You will said you don't do these anymore...
Na here I will correct your brain[/quote]These are killers am showing you in the bible and God forgave them now compare to adultery...
Are you sure you are still normal

Expanse2020:
According to the bible verses I shared
Did you now agree and concluded that Yahweh is a lord of the deciever according to your Bible

Agree we move to another topic

If allah is correct
Qur’an 29:46:
“Our God and your God is one, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.”
AND
and you are correct with your opinion, then Allah is the Al-Makireen.

Is Allah correct or Wrong?

TenQ:
If allah is correct
Qur’an 29:46:
“Our God and your God is one, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.”
AND
and you are correct with your opinion, then Allah is the Al-Makireen.

Is Allah correct or Wrong?

Then we all agree that Yahweh is a deceiver according to the bible

Expanse2020:
I taught my BIBLE said every children is born inside sin they originated sin 🤣🤣🤣🤣 from the first father
Gbammmm

Abi are you talking about another sin I don't know of

Even though you are completely wrong, however I must point out your ignorance of Islam

In complete ignorance that your prophet believed in the original sin

Expanse2020:
no he didn't choose for us because he gave us brain to CHOOSE TO DO GOOD OR BAD that why he will judge is on that ..unlike the sheep's that have done redemption with human sacrifices...like say you be masquerade ppl

Do I have to teach you Islam!?

1. The Destiny of Allah is what will come to pass.

Sahih Muslim 2644
Hudhaifa b. Usaid reported directly from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) that he said: When the drop of (semen) remains in the womb for forty or forty five nights, the angel comes and says: My Lord, will he be good or evil? And both these things would be written. Then the angel says: My Lord, would he be male or female? And both these things are written. And his deeds and actions, his death, his livelihood; these are also recorded. Then his document of destiny is rolled and there is no addition to nor subtraction from it.

Sahih Muslim 2643 a
Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who is the most truthful (of the human beings) and his being truthful (is a fact) said: Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. By Him, besides Whom there is no god, that one amongst you acts like the people deserving Paradise until between him and Paradise there remains but the distance of a cubit, when suddenly the writing of destiny overcomes him and he begins to act like the denizens of Hell and thus enters Hell, and another one acts in the way of the denizens of Hell, until there remains between him and Hell a distance of a cubit that the writing of destiny overcomes him and then he begins to act like the people of Paradise and enters Paradise.


2. Even BABIES may go to Hell according to Mohammed

Sahih Muslim 2662 b
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, reported that a child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?

Expanse2020:
Gbamm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
to shock you with the same verses in the bible
My bible says

1 John 2:16 (KJV)
“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.”

Matthew 5:27–28
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

1 Corinthians 6:18
“Flee fornication. Every sin that a person commits is outside the body, but whoever commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.”

It is amazing when you self refute yourself but in display of great IGNORANCE, you peddle it to the whole world.

1. Mohammed in Sahih Muslim 2658 a reports that Allah is the one who fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in.



In contrast to the Bible's opinion
2. John 2:16 says that God (the Father) is NOT the origin of sin of lust in the world unlike Allah who is the origin of sin.

In Matthew 5:27–28 , Jesus raised the bar and standard of sin of Adultery that you should NOT even look at a woman lustfully as to God it constitutes Adultery.

1 Corinthians 6:18 gives a command to Christians to run away from fornications unlike Allah who decides the number of fornications a man should commit.

Dont you have shame!?

Expanse2020:
so as the almighty YAHWEH did in the storybook you carry up and down 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You go cry seh


Omo ìyá mi
De feel me
This guy must cry here
Every ayat or each hadiths he quoted at least will be returned with minimum of 3verses in the bible
You will not do it again
Christianity tii cast

The amazing thing is that you quote scriptures from the bible that refutes your arguments but you are ignorant of the fact that they actually exposed your comprehension.

Find someone to help you as you truly need it.

Expanse2020:
Then we all agree that Yahweh is a deceiver according to the bible

Here is the one who calls himself the BEST of Decievers

Qur’an 3:54
“They schemed, and Allah schemed; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic: وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Qur’an 8:30
“And when those who disbelieved scheme against you to restrain you, or kill you, or expel you; and they scheme, and Allah schemes; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic:
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Are these two verses Statements and Admissions of Allah about himself or not?


Except these are not the admissions of Allah about who he is.

TenQ:
Even though you are completely wrong, however I must point out your ignorance of Islam

In complete ignorance that your prophet believed in the original sin



Do I have to teach you Islam!?

1. The Destiny of Allah is what will come to pass.

Sahih Muslim 2644
Hudhaifa b. Usaid reported directly from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) that he said: When the drop of (semen) remains in the womb for forty or forty five nights, the angel comes and says: My Lord, will he be good or evil? And both these things would be written. Then the angel says: My Lord, would he be male or female? And both these things are written. And his deeds and actions, his death, his livelihood; these are also recorded. Then his document of destiny is rolled and there is no addition to nor subtraction from it.

Sahih Muslim 2643 a
Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who is the most truthful (of the human beings) and his being truthful (is a fact) said: Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. By Him, besides Whom there is no god, that one amongst you acts like the people deserving Paradise until between him and Paradise there remains but the distance of a cubit, when suddenly the writing of destiny overcomes him and he begins to act like the denizens of Hell and thus enters Hell, and another one acts in the way of the denizens of Hell, until there remains between him and Hell a distance of a cubit that the writing of destiny overcomes him and then he begins to act like the people of Paradise and enters Paradise.


2. Even BABIES may go to Hell according to Mohammed

Sahih Muslim 2662 b
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, reported that a child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?


It is amazing when you self refute yourself but in display of great IGNORANCE, you peddle it to the whole world.

1. Mohammed in Sahih Muslim 2658 a reports that Allah is the one who fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in.



In contrast to the Bible's opinion
2. John 2:16 says that God (the Father) is NOT the origin of sin of lust in the world unlike Allah who is the origin of sin.

In Matthew 5:27–28 , Jesus raised the bar and standard of sin of Adultery that you should NOT even look at a woman lustfully as to God it constitutes Adultery.

1 Corinthians 6:18 gives a command to Christians to run away from fornications unlike Allah who decides the number of fornications a man should commit.

Dont you have shame!?



The amazing thing is that you quote scriptures from the bible that refutes your arguments but you are ignorant of the fact that they actually exposed your comprehension.

Find someone to help you as you truly need it.

Obviously you are olodo uprising I gave you a taste of your dose you couldn't take and beginning ranting....

When Allah won Muslim not to near adultery talkless of doing so he will be the one design it for is to do it...
Ago tun gọ ni yo pa kafiri

The Hadith talk about each statege of Zina
When you look woman abnormally that mean you committed it is that not what John also said...
Ma gbe odo ẹ lọ...

I will make you cry ni see ọsẹse bẹrẹ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
TenQ
Lastly I came back for you on this topic
🤣🤣🤣

Sahih Muslim 94 b
Abu Dharr reported,: I came to the Apostle (may peace be upon him ) and he was asleep with a white mantle over him. I again came, he was still asleep, I came again and he had awakened. I sat by his side and (the Holy Prophet) observed: There is none among the bondsmen who affirmed his faith in La illaha ill-Allah there is no God but Allah) and died in this state and did not enter Paradise. I (Abu Dharr) said: Even if he committed adultery and theft? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. I (again said): Even if he committed adultery and theft? He replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. (The Holy Prophet repeated it three times) and said for the fourth time: In defiance of Abu Dharr. Abu Dharr then went out and he repeated (these words): In defiance of Abu Dharr.

This Hadith was only talking about that there no offenses Allah cannot forgive us from Expect (shrik) attributing partner with Allah such as calling other God e.g.
Three in 1 nescafe God aka TRINITY, JESUS, OGUN, SANGO AND ALL OTHERS THINGS MAN WORSHIP
But that doesn't mean doing bad thing God will not accounts it again or wouldn't asked about it, not punished the person for it .

I have just shown you that Muslims do NOT have any hope of salvation and this is what you bring?

1. I showed you that what Allah wrote for you as per your destiny is what determined whether you go to paradise or hell

2. I showed you that even babies in Islam are not excepted from going to hell.
3. I showed you that Mohammed himself is NOT sure of where he is going.


You forget that, in Islam there are several other ways to be saved like

1. Sunan an-Nasa'i 5521
It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever asks Allah for Paradise three times, Paradise will say: 'O Allah, admit him to Paradise.' And whoever seeks protection from Hell three times, Hell will say: 'O Allah, protect him from the Fire.'"

2. Sahih al-Bukhari 1251
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "No Muslim whose three children died will go to the Fire except for Allah's oath."

Tell me, what is Allah's oath?

Expanse2020:
And guess what, you are free from the consequences when you commit these EVILS
and you said this with your roten mouth óò

Christianity/Christians are too bias
TenQ you are too bias 🤣🤣🤣
According to the bible
My bible says 🤣🤣🤣

David killed his solder by sending him to war front
Also sleep with her babe but YAHWEH forgive him 🤣🤣🤣

Unlike your prophet whose lust for his sons wife was condoned and sanctioned by his God, the God of David Punished him even after he acknowledged his sin.

David’s punishment
Nathan the prophet confronts David in 2 Samuel 12:7–12.
The principal punishments announced are:
-The sword would never depart from David’s household 2 Samuel 12:10.
-Calamity would arise from within his own household -2 Samuel 12:11.
-His wives would be taken publicly by another man, corresponding publicly to David’s secret act -2 Samuel 12:11–12.
-The child born from the relationship with Bathsheba would die- 2 Samuel 12:13–18.

The True God does NOT cover up sin of even His people

Expanse2020:
Saul killed thousands of people and when he became Paul/ Christian God forgives him ,🤣🤣

Saul wasn't even a believer when he killed and Imprisoned Christians.
Is it wrong that God forgive him?

Expanse2020:
Moses killed but when calling came he was forgive

You will note that like Paul, Moses did NOT commit murder AFTER he was called by God.

Expanse2020:
Verse: Jonah 3:8–10.
The people of Nineveh
They were known for violence and bloodshed. They repented, and God showed them mercy.[/b]
You will said you don't do these anymore...
Na here I will correct your brain

These are killers am showing you in the bible and God forgave them now compare to adultery...
Are you sure you are still normal

God should forgive SIN especially at the time of ignorance?
The TRUE God does not cover up sin of His Prophets.
Hebrew 12:6
“For whom the LORD loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives.”

Unlike Allah
Qur’an 5:18
“The Jews and the Christians say, ‘We are the children of Allah and His beloved.’ Say, ‘Why then does He punish you for your sins?’ Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills and punishes whom He wills. To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the final destination.”



Allah is definitely and certainly different from the God of the Christians and Jews.

TenQ:
Here is the one who calls himself the BEST of Decievers

Qur’an 3:54
“They schemed, and Allah schemed; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic: وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Qur’an 8:30
“And when those who disbelieved scheme against you to restrain you, or kill you, or expel you; and they scheme, and Allah schemes; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic:
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Are these two verses Statements and Admissions of Allah about himself or
not?


Except these are not the admissions of Allah about who he is.

Tell yourself that if twist to your taste
Here are the real G

“Ezekiel 14:9 Yahweh the deceiver according to the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“If the prophet is deceived... I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet.”

2. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 decieved again🤣🤣
“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so tha[/b]t they may believe what is false.”


Yahweh the deceiver 🤣🤣🤣
3 1 Kings 22:19–23
God [b]allows a lying spirit/ decieve/deciet /manipulate to go into the mouths of King Ahab's prophets so Ahab will be led into battle and perish.

. Isaiah 6:9–10 another deceit 🤣🤣
God tells Isaiah that the people's hearts will become dull, their ears heavy, and their eyes closed, so they will not understand and turn back.

. Exodus 7:3; 9:12; 10:20 deceived pharaoh again
God says, “I will harden Pharaoh's heart,” so Pharaoh does not let Israel go

No wonder ọmọ leyin. Paul are the best in deciet 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Tell yourself that if twist to your taste
Here are the real G

“Ezekiel 14:9 Yahweh the deceiver according to the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“If the prophet is deceived... I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet.”

2. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 decieved again🤣🤣
“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so tha[/b]t they may believe what is false.”


Yahweh the deceiver 🤣🤣🤣
3 1 Kings 22:19–23
God [b]allows a lying spirit/ decieve/deciet /manipulate to go into the mouths of King Ahab's prophets so Ahab will be led into battle and perish.

. Isaiah 6:9–10 another deceit 🤣🤣
God tells Isaiah that the people's hearts will become dull, their ears heavy, and their eyes closed, so they will not understand and turn back.

. Exodus 7:3; 9:12; 10:20 deceived pharaoh again
God says, “I will harden Pharaoh's heart,” so Pharaoh does not let Israel go

No wonder ọmọ leyin. Paul are the best in deciet 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It looks like you are ashamed that your God could admit to being a Deciever.

DID ALLAH DIRECTLY CALL HIMSELF A DECIEVER OR NOT?
Here is the one who calls himself the BEST of Decievers

Qur’an 3:54
“They schemed, and Allah schemed; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic: وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Qur’an 8:30
“And when those who disbelieved scheme against you to restrain you, or kill you, or expel you; and they scheme, and Allah schemes; and Allah is the best of Decievers.”
Arabic:
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

Are these two verses Statements and Admissions of Allah about himself or not?


Except these are not the admissions of Allah about who he is.

Expanse2020:
Tell yourself that if twist to your taste
Here are the real G

“Ezekiel 14:9 Yahweh the deceiver according to the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“If the prophet is deceived... I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet.”

2. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 decieved again🤣🤣
“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so tha[/b]t they may believe what is false.”


Yahweh the deceiver 🤣🤣🤣
3 1 Kings 22:19–23
God [b]allows a lying spirit/ decieve/deciet /manipulate to go into the mouths of King Ahab's prophets so Ahab will be led into battle and perish.

. Isaiah 6:9–10 another deceit 🤣🤣
God tells Isaiah that the people's hearts will become dull, their ears heavy, and their eyes closed, so they will not understand and turn back.

. Exodus 7:3; 9:12; 10:20 deceived pharaoh again
God says, “I will harden Pharaoh's heart,” so Pharaoh does not let Israel go

No wonder ọmọ leyin. Paul are the best in deciet 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Is it TRUE or UNTRUE that Allah IDENTIFIED himself as the Best Deciever?

Probably, that's why he forbids you from asking questions about the Qur'an so that you will jot be distressed when you find out the truth.

TenQ:
Is it TRUE or UNTRUE that Allah IDENTIFIED himself as the Best Deciever?

Probably, that's why he forbids you from asking questions about the Qur'an so that you will jot be distressed when you find out the truth.

You said one message three time as he heat uu🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The verse you mentioned they plan and our plan and Allah is the best planner that what is there and if it's decieve that will make you sleep put it there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
But in your Bible t was written that your God decieved the decieved prophet
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That enoght for me

Expanse2020:
You said one message three time as he heat uu🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The verse you mentioned they plan and our plan and Allah is the best planner that what is there and if it's decieve that will make you sleep put it there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
But in your Bible t was written that your God decieved the decieved prophet
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That enoght for me

Shigi allah the event decorator and planner

dofman:
You must love the verse by force now because it remind you how u will enter fire 🔥 if you did not repent . You will think na play .

Expanse2020 doffman dofman eyin eyan dudu allah, here is another one. Inu innna nii final place yin seh

Antiiislam:
Expanse2020 doffman dofman eyin eyan dudu allah, here is another one. Inu innna nii final place yin seh

Ago tun gọ ni yo pa kafiri
The Qur'an teaches that people of different colors are all Allah's creation:
"Among His signs is ... the diversity of your languages and your colors."
Qur'an 30:22

Allah said of the right: "These are for Paradise."
Allah said of the left: "These are for Hell."
Is this about skin color?
The majority of Islamic scholars say no. The descriptions of "white" and "black" here are understood as symbols distinguishing two groups, not as teaching that one race is better than another.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Antiiislam:
Shigi allah the event decorator and planner

Wajjdjdjdjd
What is this one saying
On a ranting mode again
Your boss don run AWOOL
Because I don make him live miserable with truth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He can hide again and started reacting a question three times

@Expanse2020, Doffman

It really isn't productive to keep going in circles when the central disagreement is methodological.

The key issue is restricting interpretation to a preferred English gloss while dismissing the wider Arabic and exegetical tradition. Arabic terms cannot simply be settled by saying "this word means X, period." Wurud, for example, can mean coming to, approaching, reaching, or entering depending on context. That range is precisely why classical tafsir records different interpretations of Qur'an 19:71–72.

The same applies elsewhere. Makr has to be understood in its linguistic and contextual setting; mushakalah helps explain the corresponding use of language; kasb concerns human responsibility within divine decree; and qarin means a companion, with its implications determined by context.

So an interpretation shouldn't be dismissed simply because it doesn't match one preferred English rendering. Where the Arabic allows a range of meanings and the classical exegetical tradition records multiple readings, the intellectually honest position is to acknowledge the dispute rather than declare one side definitively refuted. Specifically interpreting as most appropriate in context.

Expanse2020:
Wajjdjdjdjd
What is this one saying
On a ranting mode again
Your boss don run AWOOL
Because I don make him live miserable with truth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He can hide again and started reacting a question three times

Ahahahaha

If shigi allah is aware that truth dey your mouth, he won't have recommended Bible for you in Quran 10:94

Qur'an 10:94
If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;

Na you go run, shey na today u dey run, did you know many of my questions you have abandoned unanswered

Expanse2020:
Ago tun gọ ni yo pa kafiri
The Qur'an teaches that people of different colors are all Allah's creation:
"Among His signs is ... the diversity of your languages and your colors."
Qur'an 30:22

Allah said of the right: "These are for Paradise."
Allah said of the left: "These are for Hell."
Is this about skin color?
The majority of Islamic scholars say no. The descriptions of "white" and "black" here are understood as symbols distinguishing two groups, not as teaching that one race is better than another.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So sule depe, you don't know the different between hadith and quran abi?

This is Al-Tirmidhi Hadith and not quran sogbo sufu

Last paragraph said you are for innna, boya you should read slowly and gently again

Expanse2020:
You said one message three time as he heat uu🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The verse you mentioned they plan and our plan and Allah is the best planner that what is there and if it's decieve that will make you sleep put it there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
But in your Bible t was written that your God decieved the decieved prophet
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That enoght for me

1. It seems the Arabic of Allah is so poor that he used the wrong words for the "Planner"

الْمُخَطِّطُ Al-mukhaṭṭiṭ “the planner,”
Allah could also have used الْمُدَبِّرُ but he refused.

2. Let me find you some Tafsirs to clear your eyes

a. Tafsir Al-Qurṭubī Qur'an 3:54
وأصل المكر في اللغة الاحتيال والخداع
“The basic meaning of makr in the language is trickery and deception.”

b. Tafsir Al-Baghawī Qur'an 3:54
Al-Baghawī gives an even more explicit distinction:
فالمكر من المخلوقين: الخبث والخديعة والحيلة
“The makr of created beings is wickedness, deception and cunning.”


3. Translate then each of the texts below so that we can see the PLANNER in full view

1. كَشَفَتِ الشُّرْطَةُ هُوِيَّةَ الْمَاكِرِينَ.
2. لَا يَثِقُ النَّاسُ بِالْمَاكِرِينَ.
3. يَحْذَرُ التُّجَّارُ مِنَ الْمَاكِرِينَ فِي السُّوقِ.
4. اجْتَمَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ لِلتَّخْطِيطِ لِلْهُجُومِ.
5. يَسْتَخْدِمُ الْمَاكِرُونَ الأَخْبَارَ الْكَاذِبَةَ لِخِدَاعِ النَّاسِ.
6. فَشِلَ الْمَاكِرُونَ فِي تَنْفِيذِ خُطَّتِهِمْ.
7. يَظُنُّ الْمَاكِرُونَ أَنَّهُمْ أَذْكَى مِنَ الجَمِيعِ.
8. لَا يَنْجَحُ الْمَاكِرُونَ دَائِمًا.
9. وَضَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ خُطَّةً سِرِّيَّةً.
10. يُحَاوِلُ القَانُونُ إِيقَافَ الْمَاكِرِينَ.

You may also check these sentences below

1. مَكَرَ اللِّصُّ لِيَسْرِقَ المَتْجَرَ لَيْلًا.
2. مَكَرَ المُحْتَالُ بِالنَّاسِ عَبْرَ رِسَائِلَ مُزَيَّفَةٍ.
3. مَكَرَ المُخْتَرِقُ لِيَدْخُلَ إِلَى النِّظَامِ.
4. مَكَرَ المُنَافِسُ لِيَفْشَلَ المَشْرُوعُ.
5. مَكَرَ السَّارِقُ بِصَاحِبِ السَّيَّارَةِ.


Makr is like the word Treason, Torture, Malice or Atrocity which are selfom used in any positive sense.

[quote author=TenQ post=140427802]1.

It seems the Arabic of Allah is so poor that he used the wrong words for the "Planner"

says by the Arabic professor of Google 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

الْمُخَطِّطُ Al-mukhaṭṭiṭ “the planner,”
Allah could also have used الْمُدَبِّرُ but he refused

Pls do the irob of the word for us let see .

2. Let me find you some Tafsirs to clear your eyes

a. Tafsir Al-Qurṭubī Qur'an 3:54
وأصل المكر في اللغة الاحتيال والخداع
“The basic meaning of makr in the language is trickery and deception.”

Why don't you quoted from the book of the qurtubi you are talking about ..why would you just bring phrase of line from site you de do your copy cat 🤣🤣🤣🤣

b. Tafsir Al-Baghawī Qur'an 3:54
Al-Baghawī gives an even more explicit distinction:
فالمكر من المخلوقين: الخبث والخديعة والحيلة
“The makr of created beings is wickedness, deception and cunning.”

Let us know which one of his book you bring this out lobatan 🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
says by the Arabic professor of Google

Pls do the irob of the word for us let see .

2. Let me find you some Tafsirs to clear your eyes

Why don't you quoted from the book of the qurtubi you are talking about ..why would you just bring phrase of line from site you de do your copy cat 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The Hate of the Truth forces them to be in Self DENIAL! When you are given the hardcover books, won't you still be in denial?

Google is your friend: prove me wrong!



a. Al-Qurṭubī
Book: Al-Jāmiʿ li-Aḥkām al-Qurʾān
Arabic: الجامع لأحكام القرآن
Author: Abū ʿAbd Allāh Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad al-Qurṭubī
Qur’an 3:54 — Tafsīr al-Qurṭubī


b. Al-Baghawī
Book: Maʿālim al-Tanzīl
Arabic: معالم التنزيل
Author: Abū Muḥammad al-Ḥusayn ibn Masʿūd al-Baghawī
Qur’an 3:54 — Tafsīr al-Baghawī

3. Translate then each of the texts below so that we can see the PLANNER in full view

1. كَشَفَتِ الشُّرْطَةُ هُوِيَّةَ الْمَاكِرِينَ.
2. لَا يَثِقُ النَّاسُ بِالْمَاكِرِينَ.
3. يَحْذَرُ التُّجَّارُ مِنَ الْمَاكِرِينَ فِي السُّوقِ.
4. اجْتَمَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ لِلتَّخْطِيطِ لِلْهُجُومِ.
5. يَسْتَخْدِمُ الْمَاكِرُونَ الأَخْبَارَ الْكَاذِبَةَ لِخِدَاعِ النَّاسِ.
6. فَشِلَ الْمَاكِرُونَ فِي تَنْفِيذِ خُطَّتِهِمْ.
7. يَظُنُّ الْمَاكِرُونَ أَنَّهُمْ أَذْكَى مِنَ الجَمِيعِ.
8. لَا يَنْجَحُ الْمَاكِرُونَ دَائِمًا.
9. وَضَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ خُطَّةً سِرِّيَّةً.
10. يُحَاوِلُ القَانُونُ إِيقَافَ الْمَاكِرِينَ

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Come and get your fact now

لَا يَثِقُ النَّاسُ بِالْمَاكِرِينَ. People do not trust the plotters.
يَحْذَرُ التُّجَّارُ مِنَ الْمَاكِرِينَ فِي السُّوقِ. The traders are wary of the plotters in the market.
اجْتَمَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ لِلتَّخْطِيطِ لِلْهُجُومِ. The plotters gathered to plan the attack.
يَسْتَخْدِمُ الْمَاكِرُونَ الأَخْبَارَ الْكَاذِبَةَ لِخِدَاعِ النَّاسِ. The plotters use false news to deceive people.
فَشِلَ الْمَاكِرُونَ فِي تَنْفِيذِ خُطَّتِهِمْ. The plotters failed to carry out their plan.
يَظُنُّ الْمَاكِرُونَ أَنَّهُمْ أَذْكَى مِنَ الجَمِيعِ. The plotters think they are smarter than everyone else.
لَا يَنْجَحُ الْمَاكِرُونَ دَائِمًا. The plotters do not always succeed.
وَضَعَ الْمَاكِرُونَ خُطَّةً سِرِّيَّةً. The plotters made a secret plan.
يُحَاوِلُ القَانُونُ إِيقَافَ الْمَاكِرِينَ. The law tries to stop the plotters
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Vocabulary: الْمَاكِرُونَ (al-mākirūn) = plotters, schemers, planned (those who devise deceitful plans.)



In the Qur'an (3:54)
When it says "وَمَكَرُوا" (They plotted), it refers to the enemies of Prophet Jesus making a secret plan against him. Allah's response, "وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ", means Allah countered and defeated their plot with His perfect plan and justice.




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b]Makr[/b] is like the word Treason, Torture, Malice or Atrocity which are selfom used in any positive sense

ehen is a treason now 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Torture

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Let me spelt the lord of deciever for you now from my book



My bible says
1. Ezekiel 14:9
“If the prophet is deceived... I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet.”

2. 2 Thessalonians 2:11
“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so that they may believe what is false.”

3. 1 Kings 22:19–23
God allows a lying spirit to go into the mouths of King Ahab's prophets so Ahab will be led into battle and perish.
4. Isaiah 6:9–10

God tells Isaiah that the people's hearts will become dull, their ears heavy, and their eyes closed, so they will not understand and turn back.

5. Exodus 7:3; 9:12; 10:20
God says, “I will harden Pharaoh's heart,” so Pharaoh does not let Israel go.
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TenQ:
The Hate of the Truth forces them to be in Self DENIAL! When you are given the hardcover books, won't you still be in denial?

Google is your friend: prove me wrong!

a. Al-Qurṭubī
Book: Al-Jāmiʿ li-Aḥkām al-Qurʾān
Arabic: الجامع لأحكام القرآن
Author: Abū ʿAbd Allāh Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad al-Qurṭubī
Qur’an 3:54 — Tafsīr al-Qurṭubī

Al qurtubi you are crying upon here it from germini

“They plotted, and Allah plotted, and Allah is the best of planners (or plotters).”
What al-Qurṭubī says
Al-Qurṭubī explains that “they plotted” refers to the plot of the enemies of Prophet ʿĪsā (Jesus) to kill him.
He explains “Allah plotted” as Allah's response to their plot:
Allah foiled their plan.
Allah saved Jesus from being killed.
Allah caused another person to be made to resemble Jesus, and that person was taken instead according to the traditional interpretation.
Al-Qurṭubī says this is not deceit or injustice by Allah. Rather, it is a just counter-plan against those who were plotting evil. The phrase “Allah is the best of planners” means no human scheme can overcome Allah's plan.

b. Al-Baghawī
Book: Maʿālim al-Tanzīl
Arabic: معالم التنزيل
Author: Abū Muḥammad al-Ḥusayn ibn Masʿūd al-Baghawī
Qur’an 3:54 — Tafsīr al-Baghawī

Summary of al-Baghawī's explanation
Al-Baghawī explains that:
“They plotted” refers to the Jews who planned to kill or crucify Prophet ʿĪsā (Jesus).
“Allah plotted” means Allah responded to their plot by overturning it.
Allah raised Jesus to Himself and caused the plotters to fail.
According to the traditional narration he mentions, Allah made another person resemble Jesus, and that person was seized instead.
Al-Baghawī explains that Allah's makr is a just counter-plan against the evil plot of Jesus' enemies, demonstrating that Allah's plan prevails over human schemes.

Islam and sincerity is one


Christianity and deciet 5 and 6
Ezekiel 14:9
“And if the prophet is deceived and speaks a message, I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet

KJV: “I the LORD have deceived that prophet.”
NIV/ESV: “I the LORD have deceived that prophet.”


Hope you use your drug

Expanse2020:
Islam and sincerity is one


Christianity and deciet 5 and 6
Ezekiel 14:9
“And if the prophet is deceived and speaks a message, I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet

KJV: “I the LORD have deceived that prophet.”
NIV/ESV: “I the LORD have deceived that prophet.”


Hope you use your drug

So, you conclude that Allah PLOTTED!?

So, it wasn't Planning as you earlier stated!

Is it UNTRUE that
Planning is a Positive Action
AND
Plotting is a Negative Action

SMH!
So, you are coming up to the truth small small.
Allah PLOTTED,
Allah SCHEMED,
Allah SCAMMED,
Allah DECIEVED

And Allah is the Best in the Universe of those who Plot or Scheme or Scam or Decieve

Long since I was here. I'm aware that every Muslim will first enter hell ( shall they be shackled and burnt) then later go to jannat.
Every Muslim knows that but they will deny then quote classical Arabic interpretations .

TenQ:
No, the true God does not make people do BAD things (Sin) EXCEPT WHEN God is judging EVIL People by Hardening their hearts (Pharaoh Exodus 9:12), Allowing deceptive spirits to control false prophets (Prophets of King Ahab 1Kings 22:23) or God giving over a society to their sinful desires of to sexual impurity (Rom 1:24 or 2Thess 2:11-12).

Therefore, the true God do not decree nor actively inject evil into a human; rather, a person's underlying character determines whether God's actions soften them to repentance or harden them in their sins.






Now, the same Question to you and we find out that Allah ACTIVELY inject Evil into the Lives of Muslims

Does bad behaviour come from Allah?
Definitely Yes!
He want you as Muslims to commit sin!

Sahih Muslim 2749
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said:
By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them.


So that you will be certain that Allah DECIDED your bad behaviours for you


Sahih Muslim 2658 a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the ears is listening to voluptuous (song or talk) and the adultery of the tongue is licentious speech and the adultery of the hand is the lustful grip (embrace) and the adultery of the feet is to walk (to the place) where he intends to commit adultery and the heart yearns and desires which he may or may not put into effect.

As you can see, Allah has decided for you all forms of ADULTERIES you Muslims must commit.

And guess what, you are free from the consequences when you commit these EVILS



Sahih Muslim 94 b
Abu Dharr reported,: I came to the Apostle (may peace be upon him ) and he was asleep with a white mantle over him. I again came, he was still asleep, I came again and he had awakened. I sat by his side and (the Holy Prophet) observed: There is none among the bondsmen who affirmed his faith in La illaha ill-Allah there is no God but Allah) and died in this state and did not enter Paradise. I (Abu Dharr) said: Even if he committed adultery and theft? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. I (again said): Even if he committed adultery and theft? He replied: (Yes) even though he committed adultery and theft. (The Holy Prophet repeated it three times) and said for the fourth time: In defiance of Abu Dharr. Abu Dharr then went out and he repeated (these words): In defiance of Abu Dharr.

Allah and Islam demands a woman must be a virgin before getting married. Families routinely murder their girl if she wasn't a virgin at marriage time.
Premarital sex also sees girls killed or forced to marry the man.
When married adultery sentence is stoning to death (the verse that was eaten by a goat).
Some of these honour killings are cultural I believe within some societies avenging for bringing dishonour to the family.
I believe they have foundation in the Quran and Hadiths for they are widely practiced across the Muslim world.

So much for the evil doers who go straight to hellfire.
Let's turn to the men. It's never a crime if they have sex with non Muslims, On the contrary it's encouraged to humiliate the disbelievers who after all are destined for hellfire. Or have the girls bear children who are automatically Muslim ( to grow the population).
Homosexuality is also punishable by death throwing from a cliff in some Hadith or like the Iranian do it. Hoist on a crane in public.
However a Muslim sodomizing a non Muslim in war is no crime at all ,it's encouraged though not explicitly. Its the way of humiliating and casting terror into the hearts of disbelievers or rather non muslims.

Muslims will deny this ,turning to wrong interpretations,but they practice it all the time todate.

I've seen somewhere that the prophet himself also was destined to go into hell.

TenQ:
So, you conclude that Allah PLOTTED!?

So, it wasn't Planning as you earlier stated!

Is it UNTRUE that
Planning is a Positive Action
AND
Plotting is a Negative Action

SMH!
So, you are coming up to the truth small small.
Allah PLOTTED,
Allah SCHEMED,
Allah SCAMMED,
Allah DECIEVED

And Allah is the Best in the Universe of those who Plot or Scheme or Scam or Decieve

But at the end of the statement you didn't see what the got called make
You see scheme right
You see plotted right
But you didn't see plan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

How did you reason ma
This brain of yours need a psychiatrist treatment óò


Going back to the verse
You said they plan, Allah and you now said Allah is the best deciever .... What change the original word there🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

basilico:
Allah and Islam demands a woman must be a virgin before getting married. Families routinely murder their girl if she wasn't a virgin at marriage time.
Premarital sex also sees girls killed or forced to marry the man.
When married adultery sentence is stoning to death (the verse that was eaten by a goat).
Some of these honour killings are cultural I believe within some societies avenging for bringing dishonour to the family.
I believe they have foundation in the Quran and Hadiths for they are widely practiced across the Muslim world.

So much for the evil doers who go straight to hellfire.
Let's turn to the men. It's never a crime if they have sex with non Muslims, On the contrary it's encouraged to humiliate the disbelievers who after all are destined for hellfire. Or have the girls bear children who are automatically Muslim ( to grow the population).
Homosexuality is also punishable by death throwing from a cliff in some Hadith or like the Iranian do it. Hoist on a crane in public.
However a Muslim sodomizing a non Muslim in war is no crime at all ,it's encouraged though not explicitly. Its the way of humiliating and casting terror into the hearts of disbelievers or rather non muslims.

Muslims will deny this ,turning to wrong interpretations,but they practice it all the time todate.

I've seen somewhere that the prophet himself also was destined to go into hell.

A lot of what Muslims practice are cultural rather than religion because they depend more on their scholars than they depend on Allah or Mohammed.

Have no noticed that Muslims will stone to death only women fornicators and not the men in every culture they practiced out the penalty of stonning to death !