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"In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by MrEar(op): 5:31pm On Aug 25
"In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram)

🚨 Two years ago, I was detained in Paris by police for 3 days — the longest they can hold someone before charging them.

In an unprecedented move, French authorities accused the head of a major platform of crimes committed by its users.

That investigation is still ongoing, although it makes less sense with each passing year.

Why?

Because we now have extensive evidence that Telegram was neither worse than other popular platforms at moderation, nor the worst at cooperating with authorities.

So why was Telegram singled out?

Over the last two years, we have seen a pattern emerge in multiple countries: Telegram is quietly asked to grant political favors — such as illegal censorship or surveillance. When we refuse, local media and “non-governmental” organizations launch orchestrated campaigns portraying Telegram as a cesspool of crime, from child pornography to terrorism.

Our moderation is no worse than that of other major platforms. Yet these campaigns instill the idea that Telegram should be persecuted or restricted.

Suddenly, officials start caring about crime and protecting children — but only on platforms that reject their secret political demands. Platforms that accept such deals get away with almost anything — including literally selling ads promoting child pornography.

Is the French investigation against me political? It certainly fits the pattern we see elsewhere, mostly in authoritarian countries. And it definitely raises questions.

In time, this investigation may itself be investigated — especially now that Macron’s war against free speech is facing pushback. This month, France’s Constitutional Council struck down his social media ban for children under 15 on freedom-of-expression grounds.

In the end, freedom and truth will prevail ✊
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Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by MrEar(op): 5:32pm On Aug 25
So do you guys still trust the end to end encrypted bullsheet that Meta claims to give you in WhatsApp?

Do you really think your data on Facebook and Instagram is safe and in good hands?

If your answer to my question is yes, hope you're aware that the Jewish ceo of Meta once called you a dummb fu.c.k.. for trusting him.

I would really love to explain why data is important and data centres are being built all over the world, but this Olodo Uprising is making me feel that would be a waste of my time and energy.

Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Noblex2011(m): 6:46pm On Aug 25
Durov at times talk too much though he is trying when it comes to Telegram
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by HacheNoire: 6:46pm On Aug 25
MrEar:
So do you guys still trust the end to end encrypted bullsheet that Meta claims to give you in WhatsApp?

Do you really think your data on Facebook and Instagram is safe and in good hands?

If your answer to my question is yes, hope you're aware that the Jewish ceo of Meta once called you a dummb fu.c.k.. for trusting him.

I would really love to explain why data is important and data centres are being built all over the world, but this Olodo Uprising is making me feel that would be a waste of my time and energy.
There is nothing like end to end encryption.

It is a marketing terminology and does not exist.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by WhiteIverson: 6:47pm On Aug 25
MrEar:
So do you guys still trust the end to end encrypted bullsheet that Meta claims to give you in WhatsApp?

Do you really think your data on Facebook and Instagram is safe and in good hands?

If your answer to my question is yes, hope you're aware that the Jewish ceo of Meta once called you a dummb fu.c.k.. for trusting him.

I would really love to explain why data is important and data centres are being built all over the world, but this Olodo Uprising is making me feel that would be a waste of my time and energy.
As long as you have an online identity, you are not anonymous.
Do you trust that your banking info is safe with the banks?
Do you trust that your NIN details are safe?

Nobody in this life is anonymous. Once you leave a digital footprint anywhere, you can be found no matter where you are.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by 9jajoseph: 6:49pm On Aug 25
I haven't still forgiven you. I brought 30 units of ton @ the rate of $7.9 each. Immediately you pick decide to pick fight with Russia, the token start going down. Now it struggling between ones and zero
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Quelme: 6:53pm On Aug 25
They are all stealing our data and snooping on us. In this modern times, there are no saints or sinners.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by CrownedPhoenix: 6:55pm On Aug 25
One feature I miss though is searching and locating people/groups nearby.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by psalmsjob: 6:58pm On Aug 25
I never really liked Telegram from it's early days because those notorious Eastern European scammers like Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusian etc would spam you and infect your system with virus back then even now it's full of all kinds of channels and unclear layout and map and also spam you on its own.

It is not just a safe socail media platform to use if you don't have ulterior motive.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by techWriter001: 7:11pm On Aug 25
Definitely. A well-considered observation.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:18pm On Aug 25
HacheNoire:
There is nothing like end to end encryption.

It is a marketing terminology and does not exist.
What do you mean?

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Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by LeeSmart: 7:19pm On Aug 25
Lol this my Muslim friend is really pained😂😂
MrEar:
So do you guys still trust the end to end encrypted bullsheet that Meta claims to give you in WhatsApp?

Do you really think your data on Facebook and Instagram is safe and in good hands?

If your answer to my question is yes, hope you're aware that the Jewish ceo of Meta once called you a dummb fu.c.k.. for trusting him.

I would really love to explain why data is important and data centres are being built all over the world, but this Olodo Uprising is making me feel that would be a waste of my time and energy.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:21pm On Aug 25
psalmsjob:
I never really liked Telegram from it's early days because those notorious Eastern European scammers like Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusian etc would spam you and infect your system with virus back then even now it's full of all kinds of channels and unclear layout and map and also spam you on its own.

It is not just a safe socail media platform to use if you don't have ulterior motive.
It's a safe platform.

Stop the scaremongering.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by HacheNoire: 7:23pm On Aug 25
Flangelo12:
What do you mean?

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Marketing terminology to give users and customers a sense of security.

But it always has a backend. It’s not closed to all.

I can tell you a test to run and find out if you ready.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Blunt99: 7:25pm On Aug 25
9jajoseph:
I haven't still forgiven you. I brought 30 units of ton @ the rate of $7.9 each. Immediately you pick decide to pick fight with Russia, the token start going down. Now it struggling between ones and zero
You bought at almost at time high.

It has nothing to do with fighting Russia.

The whole market was under water then, and not particular to Ton.

Ton was worse hit because it has a more complex technology that needed extra skill set to navigate by Developers, plus non available active bridge to other ecosystem.

Including, seemingly attached to Telegram, like there was no other popular way to access the token, plus number telegram account were getting suspended.

Then comes numerous scam both on Telegram and Ton network that further enabled distrust and triggered a negative campaign against the chain.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:25pm On Aug 25
HacheNoire:
Marketing terminology to give users and customers a sense of security.

But it always has a backend. It’s not closed to all.

I can tell you a test to run and find out if you ready.
Not encrypted by default but it's avaliable.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by HacheNoire: 7:27pm On Aug 25
Flangelo12:
Not encrypted by default but it's avaliable.
It’s not!

Nothing is closed! Outrightly nothing!

Do you think the delete button/icon on a computer or phone is real?

It only gives YOU a sense that you have erased it. It is not erased.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:30pm On Aug 25
HacheNoire:
It’s not!

Nothing is closed! Outrightly nothing!

Do you think the delete button/icon on a computer or phone is real?

It only gives YOU a sense that you have erased it. It is not erased.
C'mon now.

Depends on if it is in ephemeral storage or not.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by HacheNoire: 7:36pm On Aug 25
Flangelo12:
C'mon now.

Depends on if it is in ephemeral storage or not.
It’s all marketing terms.

Trust me! If for reasons they want to dig it up, they will find it.

Just pray you never have a reason to be in such position.

Passwords are not even real. How about that? Nothing is locked or deleted. The destruction of the hardware if not backed up on a cloud service and properly disposed beyond redemption, is the only way.

We have marketing and realistic terms.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by LagbajaTheBEREAN: 7:38pm On Aug 25
WhiteIverson:
As long as you have an online identity, you are not anonymous.
Do you trust that your banking info is safe with the banks?
Do you trust that your NIN details are safe?

Nobody in this life is anonymous. Once you leave a digital footprint anywhere, you can be found no matter where you are.
When it comes to fishing out the perpetrators of the wanton killings and kidnappings going on in Nigeria, the government will gladly tell you that there's no such thing as digital footprints, you might not want to believe but it's obvious.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:43pm On Aug 25
HacheNoire:
It’s all marketing terms.

Trust me! If for reasons they want to dig it up, they will find it.

Just pray you never have a reason to be in such position.

Passwords are not even real. How about that? Nothing is locked or deleted. The destruction of the hardware if not backed up on a cloud service and properly disposed beyond redemption, is the only way.

We have marketing and realistic terms.
Ephemeral storage can be overwritten.

You would not be able to reconstruction what was originally written to it.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Flangelo12: 7:44pm On Aug 25
HacheNoire:
It’s all marketing terms.

Trust me! If for reasons they want to dig it up, they will find it.

Just pray you never have a reason to be in such position.

Passwords are not even real. How about that? Nothing is locked or deleted. The destruction of the hardware if not backed up on a cloud service and properly disposed beyond redemption, is the only way.

We have marketing and realistic terms.
Ephemeral storage can be overwritten.

You would not be able to recomstruct what was originally written to it.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by astonished: 7:46pm On Aug 25
Government needs to have level of control over all these social apps.

There are many loops in all those app that scammers & criminal are using to commit various crimes.

And security agencies will become helpless to help their citizens who are victims through all these app.

That's why it's necessary owner of these app should give government some level of control on thier social media app.

It has now becomes tools use by criminals to commit various crimes with millions of victims everyday.

If government is responsible for safety of their citizens, they should have some control over those app
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by HacheNoire: 7:51pm On Aug 25
Flangelo12:
Ephemeral storage can be overwritten.

You would not be able to recomstruct what was originally written to it.
You are right, and what gives you the notion that it cannot be reconstructed i seconds.

Let us both remember that the deletion sequence was by the order of someone’s design.

Anyways, let’s close this discussion. I don’t want yo discuss further.

I sincerely appreciate our discussion.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Mattswaggz: 7:54pm On Aug 25
There is hardly anything that can be separated from politics in this world....know this and know peace.

Anyone who tries to separate stuffs that handle communication, information, business etc like telegram from politics or from the hands of the government will most likely be targeted....all these free speech,your chats are end to end encrypted and no one is spying on you blah blah blah are all hogwash.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by 9jajoseph: 8:11pm On Aug 25
Blunt99:
You bought at almost at time high.

It has nothing to do with fighting Russia.

The whole market was under water then, and not particular to Ton.

Ton was worse hit because it has a more complex technology that needed extra skill set to navigate by Developers, plus non available active bridge to other ecosystem.

Including, seemingly attached to Telegram, like there was no other popular way to access the token, plus number telegram account were getting suspended.

Then comes numerous scam both on Telegram and Ton network that further enabled distrust and triggered a negative campaign against the chain.
Well, you are right, the whole market was hit not just ton.

And thanks for the education
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by SuperEagles: 8:22pm On Aug 25
Be quiet, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute.



Noblex2011:
Durov at times talk too much though he is trying when it comes to Telegram
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by jokerphilics(m): 8:31pm On Aug 25
MrEar:
So do you guys still trust the end to end encrypted bullsheet that Meta claims to give you in WhatsApp?

Do you really think your data on Facebook and Instagram is safe and in good hands?

If your answer to my question is yes, hope you're aware that the Jewish ceo of Meta once called you a dummb fu.c.k.. for trusting him.

I would really love to explain why data is important and data centres are being built all over the world, but this Olodo Uprising is making me feel that would be a waste of my time and energy.
Let me make your statement make sense the more as regards that data end to end encryption bullshit you are talking about. I've been observing something for some time now when using the internet. I noticed when I use a opera browser for whatever it is I use it for, I see ads that have to do with what I surfed the net about on my Facebook timeline. Is that coincidental? The answer is a big no because it does continually happen which means it isn't coincidental at all. Two different bodies. How come?
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by wiseone28: 8:34pm On Aug 25
He really tried with his Dogs airdrop
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by davidque: 8:52pm On Aug 25
Funny man. Telegram is a major distributor of all sorts of crime and pornography, unlike other platforms
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Mrexcell(m): 8:57pm On Aug 25
9jajoseph:
I haven't still forgiven you. I brought 30 units of ton @ the rate of $7.9 each. Immediately you pick decide to pick fight with Russia, the token start going down. Now it struggling between ones and zero
He is planning to launch and replace ton coin with gram in december the mining is currently ongoing.
Re: "In The End, Freedom And Truth Will Prevail" - Pavel Durov (Founder Of Telegram) by Belurved1(m): 8:59pm On Aug 25
Ton chop my money wahalai.

9jajoseph:
I haven't still forgiven you. I brought 30 units of ton @ the rate of $7.9 each. Immediately you pick decide to pick fight with Russia, the token start going down. Now it struggling between ones and zero
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