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Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by FSBoperator: 10:48am On Aug 27
PulaPower:
Nah gabbage in / gabbage out innoson dey do. Nah why people no dey buy ham..

Whenever people wants to buy Chinese cars, they still prefer to ship it in from China than go to innoson for re-branded cars..

A content creator on TikTok went to inno’s factory and did a video on them..
Innosun just went to an industrial hub in china where all their car companies are located and met with supply companies to pre order parts already made for existing Chinese cars.

The only authentic thing about the car is it's logo and name

Everything is a slapstick operation just to evade high import duties on finished cars.

Car spare parts have one of the lowest import levies .

Innosun just imports his cars in parts from several Chinese auto supply companies and assembles it in parts in his auto shed in Nnewi which he dubbs as an assembly plant

There's zero local content other than the artisans he employs to bolt the cars together.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Mrexcell(m): 10:52am On Aug 27
Itzlinda:
They only assemble. They do nothing. They add no value whatsoever but still kudos to them.

They know how to make money
A company that employs over three thousand nigerians adds no value you that's adding value how many nigerians have you been able to employ?
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by CashVessel(m): 10:53am On Aug 27
Instead.of.him.to see.and.admit his foolishness, he wants make a bad attempt to cover it up
SeeWahala:
You say your argument wasn't about innoson abi? shocked



Oya explain this your prior post and how your argument isn't about WITH innoson? 🤔
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by FSBoperator: 10:55am On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
So my uncle who was driving a datsun in USA in 1990's was an alien from Mars abi?

You and your AgbadoGPT should commot for my face jare angry
There's no single production going on in Innosun auto shed .

For one to have an indigenous car company at least there should be a chassis fabrication unit, metal shaping section, engine and transmission section, painting, upholstery unit, electronic wiring , painting and corrosion , etc .

Car plants are massive and also depend on other large support suppliers to produce things like hoses, wiring, car batteries , alternatives, bolts, fabrics , etc.

Benz plant in Germany is over 10km long and there are tens of other companies supporting them.

You think car manufacturing nah joke ?

Innosun operates an auto shed and not even an assembly line.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by orikoku: 10:56am On Aug 27
Really?
EmekaBlue:
IVM 这个尼日利亚公司用中国的车. 真的

I just told the truth
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Kushites: 10:58am On Aug 27
FSBoperator:
Arrant nonsense.

Daewoo cars were built on Ford design with an Italian fiat 4 piston stroke engine design and transmission.

But every single parts that made those cars were manufactured in South Korea by the Ship building company.

Innosun does not produce one single part of his cars.

He only assembles pre ordered parts from several Chinese companies that support the Chinese auto industry and ships it to Nigeria from where it is assembled in his auto shop he calls an assembly line.

Which actual manufacturing is going on in Innosun assembly plant ?
SERIOUSLY, PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEED TO STOP.

STOP DECEIVING AND MISINFORMING NIGERIANS AND AFRICANS ABOUT THEIR CAPABLITIES.

UNDERSTOOD?

INNOSON IS A LEGITIMATE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER BY EVERY DEFINITION OF THE WORD, WHO PRODUCES AT LEAST 70% OF HIS PARTS FOR ITS VEHICLES HERE IN NIGERIA.

HERE IS AN AI REPORT ON INNOSON OPERATIONS


.....................


Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing (IVM) is not simply a company importing finished cars and putting its badge on them. It operates an actual vehicle production facility in Nnewi, Anambra State, where vehicles go through multiple industrial manufacturing and assembly stages. Nigeria's National Automotive Design and Development Council lists IVM as a licensed, producing automotive manufacturer, with an installed capacity listed at 15,000 vehicles.

The manufacturing process begins with the vehicle body structure. Sheet metal is cut, shaped and bent to the required dimensions before being positioned in specialised jigs and fixtures. These fixtures hold the components accurately in place while welding joins them together to form the vehicle's body structure. Earlier documented production at the plant included the use of spot-welding equipment for joining sheet-metal sections.

Once the body structure is formed, it undergoes surface treatment and corrosion protection. At the plant, body structures have been treated with protective coatings before being heat-dried. The bodies then move through preparation stages involving sealants, primers, fillers and surface smoothing. Painting takes place inside controlled paint booths, followed by oven curing and quality inspection. Innoson has also invested in an automated robotic spraying booth, designed to increase painting speed and consistency.

The next stage is mechanical and electrical assembly. Engines and other powertrain components are prepared and installed, followed by systems such as air conditioning, electrical components, suspension, braking systems, interior components, glazing and other vehicle fittings. For larger vehicles, chassis and body structures are positioned using overhead cranes and assembled with access to the mechanical areas underneath.

Importantly, the factory also contains dedicated production areas for different vehicle categories. In 2025, an ECOWAS inspection of the facility documented assembly lines for 15- and 17-seat buses, air-conditioning and electrical sections, a CNG bus installation unit, surface-treatment facilities and stability-testing facilities.

Innoson has also continued expanding its industrial capability. In 2021, the company commissioned additional production facilities for small/mini buses and sedan vehicles, alongside the automated robotic paint-spraying system. The company stated that these facilities had a combined production capacity of 32,000 vehicles annually.

There is an important distinction, however: not every component inside an Innoson vehicle is necessarily manufactured in Nigeria. Like virtually every modern automobile manufacturer, IVM uses components and technology sourced from suppliers, including foreign suppliers. An ODI study notes that IVM assembles CKD (completely knocked down) kits, while also identifying the broader challenge of developing a deeper Nigerian automotive component-supply chain.

That does not make Innoson illegitimate. Automotive manufacturing worldwide involves complex global supply chains. What matters is that IVM performs genuine industrial processes in Nigeria—including body fabrication, welding, surface treatment, painting, mechanical assembly, electrical installation and vehicle testing—rather than merely importing completed vehicles.

In other words, Innoson is a legitimate Nigerian vehicle manufacturer because there is an actual factory, an actual production process, actual industrial equipment, actual workers and engineers, and actual vehicles emerging from that production system. Its significance is not that every nut, bolt or electronic component is Nigerian; its significance is that Nigeria has a functioning indigenous company capable of turning automotive components and materials into complete road vehicles on Nigerian soil.

- AI
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by MrSly(m): 10:58am On Aug 27
1Alex:
check the vehicles below and channel your advice elsewhere.
God bless you abundantly. Someone who don't even have any business he has started in his entire life will just wake up and begin to write recklessly ro tarnish a business someone spent fortune to build.

Thank you for this short but powerful reply in pictures so that the idle OP can find something worthwhile to do.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by FSBoperator: 11:00am On Aug 27
Mrexcell:
A company that employs over three thousand nigerians adds no value you that's adding value how many nigerians have you been able to employ?
Which 3,000?

A company that barely assembled 300 cars does not need 3,000 staff.

How many cars has Innosun rolled off from their auto shed since Inception ?

No be only 3000 staff nah 3 million.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by nwirinedu(m): 11:00am On Aug 27
And after all said and done, after purchasing these cars with your hard earned money , what happens to teh batteries when they die?

........................This happens /video/1

We dont need another EV car graveyard in Nigeria.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by chipet67(m): 11:01am On Aug 27
Bitterness
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Ewedegubbler: 11:08am On Aug 27
FSBoperator:
Which 3,000?

A company that barely assembled 300 cars does not need 3,000 staff.

How many cars has Innosun rolled off from their auto shed since Inception ?

No be only 3000 staff nah 3 million.
Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing (IVM) has manufactured over 30,000 vehicles total over its multi-year operational history.


May the evil u spread upon the society find its way to your home..
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by FSBoperator: 11:09am On Aug 27
Kushites:
SERIOUSLY, PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEED TO STOP.

STOP DECEIVING ANDS MISINFORMING NIGERIANS AND AFRICANS ABOUT THEIR CAPABLITIES.

UNDERSTOOD?

INNOSON IS A LEGITIMATE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER BY EVERY DEFINITION OF THE WORD, WHO PRODUCES AT LEAST 70% OF HIS PARTS FOR ITS VEHICLES HERE IN NIGERIA.

HERE IS AN AI REPORT ON INNOSON OPERATIONS


.....................


Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing (IVM) is not simply a company importing finished cars and putting its badge on them. It operates an actual vehicle production facility in Nnewi, Anambra State, where vehicles go through multiple industrial manufacturing and assembly stages. Nigeria's National Automotive Design and Development Council lists IVM as a licensed, producing automotive manufacturer, with an installed capacity listed at 15,000 vehicles.

The manufacturing process begins with the vehicle body structure. Sheet metal is cut, shaped and bent to the required dimensions before being positioned in specialised jigs and fixtures. These fixtures hold the components accurately in place while welding joins them together to form the vehicle's body structure. Earlier documented production at the plant included the use of spot-welding equipment for joining sheet-metal sections.

Once the body structure is formed, it undergoes surface treatment and corrosion protection. At the plant, body structures have been treated with protective coatings before being heat-dried. The bodies then move through preparation stages involving sealants, primers, fillers and surface smoothing. Painting takes place inside controlled paint booths, followed by oven curing and quality inspection. Innoson has also invested in an automated robotic spraying booth, designed to increase painting speed and consistency.

The next stage is mechanical and electrical assembly. Engines and other powertrain components are prepared and installed, followed by systems such as air conditioning, electrical components, suspension, braking systems, interior components, glazing and other vehicle fittings. For larger vehicles, chassis and body structures are positioned using overhead cranes and assembled with access to the mechanical areas underneath.

Importantly, the factory also contains dedicated production areas for different vehicle categories. In 2025, an ECOWAS inspection of the facility documented assembly lines for 15- and 17-seat buses, air-conditioning and electrical sections, a CNG bus installation unit, surface-treatment facilities and stability-testing facilities.

Innoson has also continued expanding its industrial capability. In 2021, the company commissioned additional production facilities for small/mini buses and sedan vehicles, alongside the automated robotic paint-spraying system. The company stated that these facilities had a combined production capacity of 32,000 vehicles annually.

There is an important distinction, however: not every component inside an Innoson vehicle is necessarily manufactured in Nigeria. Like virtually every modern automobile manufacturer, IVM uses components and technology sourced from suppliers, including foreign suppliers. An ODI study notes that IVM assembles CKD (completely knocked down) kits, while also identifying the broader challenge of developing a deeper Nigerian automotive component-supply chain.

That does not make Innoson illegitimate. Automotive manufacturing worldwide involves complex global supply chains. What matters is that IVM performs genuine industrial processes in Nigeria—including body fabrication, welding, surface treatment, painting, mechanical assembly, electrical installation and vehicle testing—rather than merely importing completed vehicles.

In other words, Innoson is a legitimate Nigerian vehicle manufacturer because there is an actual factory, an actual production process, actual industrial equipment, actual workers and engineers, and actual vehicles emerging from that production system. Its significance is not that every nut, bolt or electronic component is Nigerian; its significance is that Nigeria has a functioning indigenous company capable of turning automotive components and materials into complete road vehicles on Nigerian soil.

- AI
99.9999% of every component of. Innosun cars comes in a container shipped in from china from several Chinese auto supply service companies

The company is not producing jack .

Even the metal bending you say they are doing is from metal sheets pre ordered from china and the press doing the bending is Chinese .

Nothing original about that company and should never be called an auto company but an auto importer and retailer avoiding high import tarrifs and taking advantage of local content in labour .
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Mrexcell(m): 11:13am On Aug 27
FSBoperator:
Which 3,000?

A company that barely assembled 300 cars does not need 3,000 staff.

How many cars has Innosun rolled off from their auto shed since Inception ?

No be only 3000 staff nah 3 million.
Innosson is a diverse company he also manufactures things like plastic chairs, tables etc he adds value to the nigerian economy than ur entire generation will ever dream of keep up with ur useless hating.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Kushites: 11:16am On Aug 27
FSBoperator:
99.9999% of every component of. Innosun cars comes in a container shipped in from china from several Chinese auto supply service companies

The company is not producing jack .

Even the metal bending you say they are doing is from metal sheets pre ordered from china and the press doing the bending is Chinese .

Nothing original about that company and should never be called an auto company but an auto importer and retailer avoiding high import tarrifs and taking advantage of local content in labour .
SORRY, BUT A FACELESS HATER WITH AN AGENDA DOES NOT GET TO OVERRIDE AN AI REPORT.

AI IS USED BY ROCKET SCIENTISTS TO TRACK CONSTELLATIONS AND PLANETS.

SO A PROMPTED AI REPORT ON INNOSON OPERATIONS IS CHICKEN FEED FOR AI.

CHICKEN WORK OF 10 SECONDS.

GO AND REST WITH YOUR ANTI-AFRICAN AGENDA, OKAY?
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Ibadanfarmroad: 11:16am On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
In America in the 1990's there was a company called Datsun producing cars for their market but the same car could be found in Japan named Nissan.

Later USA dropped the Datsun name and took up the Nissan one. If you were alive and living in USA at that time I'm sure many people would give you a piece of their mind concerning this your type of submission undecided
complete lies, why do people lie with so much confidence ?
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by zoedew: 11:17am On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
In America in the 1990's there was a company called Datsun producing cars for their market but the same car could be found in Japan named Nissan.

Later USA dropped the Datsun name and took up the Nissan one. If you were alive and living in USA at that time I'm sure many people would give you a piece of their mind concerning this your type of submission undecided
“producing cars”🧐. The point is that Innoson cannot be said to be producing the same car here in Nigeria and should come clean!
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Obakoolex(m): 11:20am On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
So my uncle who was driving a datsun in USA in 1990's was an alien from Mars abi?

You and your AgbadoGPT should commot for my face jare angry
Cover your shameless face mister. No wonder you support your lamba master😂
Datsun Ko
Sudan ni
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by victorazyvictor(m): 11:21am On Aug 27
Innoson is a joke.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by portacabin: 11:26am On Aug 27
directonpc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6s23QiSnM

Came across a post the official FB page of IVM about their latest G20 all electric vehicle. I did a simple circle to search (image search) and found the car was exactly the same vehicle as 2025 WULING HONGGUANG.

If IVM is reselling Chinese cars, should they do less of the made in Nigeria marketing to sound more honest.

It will be also interesting to see how much they add on top of what WULING sells the same vehicle in China.
Innoson imports SKD and CKD parts of Chinese vehicles brands and assembles them locally. He certainly will sell above the Chinese prices of all those vehicles. Several other foreign companies sell Chinese vehicles using the same format
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Itzlinda(f): 11:28am On Aug 27
Mrexcell:
A company that employs over three thousand nigerians adds no value you that's adding value how many nigerians have you been able to employ?
You don't know what adding value means when it comes to trade and production. I forgive your ignorance.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Fogman(m): 11:33am On Aug 27
Direct rebadged twins are not uncommon in the auto industry. They are vehicles that are essentially the same mechanically and structurally but are sold under different brands, often with different badges, styling, trim levels, or minor features.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Comelysync: 11:38am On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
So the fact that the Datsun company quit production of its vehicles in the American market in the 1980's is what you want to use and claim whatever it is you feel makes innoson a subpar engineering company? 🤔

Or you just want to let me know it didn't happen in the 1990's as I previously stated? undecided what's your issue I ask again angry
can you please stop embarrassing yourself online? Are you ominiscience know it all? I don't need to quote chat Gpt to know Nissan owns Datsun and it was never "produced" in the USA nor assembled which is what INNOSON is doing, cars have been assembled in Nigeria before the man innoson ever dreamt of business. Mercedes Anamco was assembling Mercedes 911 in Anambra, Volkswagen in Lagos, Peugeot in Kaduna.
I don't know why some of you like defending a company that is obviously lying face flat using advert gimmicks. There are nothing less than five Nigerian car companies assembly their own brand of Chinese cars in Nigeria.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by EgbeAbali: 11:50am On Aug 27
The problem I have with Nigerians is they like to bring down their fellow people down ....Fors is manufactured in U.S but it's components are sourced from other countries,you will never see Americans talk down on Ford,how about iPhones?
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Ritchiee: 12:22pm On Aug 27
1Alex:
check the vehicles below and channel your advice elsewhere.
In one sentence,it is Chinese imported car but rebranded as Innosson IVM made in Nigeria car.
At least,some Nigerian materials like 40% to 60% or thereabout should have been added to call it made in Nigeria.
Innosson has been there for more than a decade and we are still at this stage huh
I do hope others like JAC,Nord etc are not doing this 'deceit'.
Na wah o.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by cr7lomo: 12:36pm On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
Exactly 💯 what we as nigerians should be doing is encouraging more and more individuals to tow the same manufacturing/production line instead of castigating them or belittling their efforts like the op and GeneralPula/PulaPower are trying to do here wink

China was once a 'copycat' but today even YOU YOURSELF want to import cars from them kiss

We must start from somewhere mustn't we? 🤗
Its tribalists that are creating threads and attacking innocent...and we know theyvare the westsiders
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Mrexcell(m): 12:37pm On Aug 27
Itzlinda:
You don't know what adding value means when it comes to trade and production. I forgive your ignorance.
So what's ur own definition of adding value? When innosson employees use their salaries to feed their families and buy things in the market what do u call that?
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by GeneralOuki: 12:42pm On Aug 27
JohnAOne:
Innoson is in actuality AN ASSEMBLY PLANT (Chinese cars), they dont manufacture anything undecided
Most car companies are assembly plants, they don't manufacture all of their components, in fact that hardly manufacture 50% of it. Same with innoson, he doesn't manufacture the entire car, but just a couple of components and the body of the cars are manufactured here in Nigeria, the leather, plastic parts, glass, fittings and batteries are manufactured here.
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by GeneralOuki: 12:44pm On Aug 27
Itzlinda:
They only assemble. They do nothing. They add no value whatsoever but still kudos to them.

They know how to make money
The body, glass, fittings and some engine components are manufactured here in Nigeria.

Do you think Mercedes manufactures all their car components in their factory? They hardly manufacture 50% of them, the rest of the car are assembled in. Their factories, same with other car automobile companies
Re: Innoson Ivm G20 Is Same Car As Wuling Hongguang? by Ashirioluwa: 12:55pm On Aug 27
SeeWahala:
In America in the 1990's there was a company called Datsun producing cars for their market but the same car could be found in Japan named Nissan.

Later USA dropped the Datsun name and took up the Nissan one. If you were alive and living in USA at that time I'm sure many people would give you a piece of their mind concerning this your type of submission undecided
Nissan owned Datsun.

According to google search, Nissan introduced the first Datsun models to America in 1958, including the Datsun 1000.

Datsun models are owned by Nissan Motor Co., which created and used the brand for its vehicles exported to the United States from 1958 until 1986
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