₦airaland Forum

Dogalmighty17:
NYSC certificate forger says what? She is angling for an appointment if Tinubu wins re-election. Madam you should be in prison if Nigeria was a functional country.

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Shey this one too ma human being?

DeLaRue:
Also, the day Mr Atiku is declared winner, the value of the naira will collapse to around N1600, and within a week, it will head towards N1800, as foreign investors will scamper out of the country.

The world bank, African Development Bank, IMF, USA, EU, UK and every serious country and institution in the world is against fuel subsidy especially in a country like Nigeria thar has endemic revenue problems that dates back several decades.

Mr Atiku claims he knows better than all of them.

They will so punish the naira that by the time it is trading at more than N2000 to 1 Usd, and the price of a loaf of bread is N3500, and a bag of rice is N150,000 Nigerians will beg for subsidy to be taken away again, but it would be too late.

The international community and institutions will look away. Nobody has time for an unserious country.

Nigeria will be on its own then, facing a Zimbabwe-type collapse.

You people should continue. No problem. We sidon dey look.

Why didn't this your doomsday predictions happen all the while we had subsidy
It's interesting that it's actually when we removed subsidy that the price of a loaf of bread spiralled from about 600 to 2000 naira

Beautifulday:
How is fuel subsidy and incentives for corruption? The country that have subsidies, are they more corrupt than us?

Thank you. Subsidies are inefficiencies conceptually. It is why it is targeted to achieve an end. Hence a cost benefit analysis case is built around it. Other countries already have robust system to identify every individual, coy, monitoring margins....
Problem with 🇳🇬 fuel subsidy is the difficulty in targeting it to the right people. As explained earlier, cost of monitoring/ctrl the targeting may even outweigh the subsidy. It is the reason why you need to leave the process to market and then specifically target the poor with proceeds from the savings, in my opinion. That is more efficient rather than creating opportunity for corruption and later blame people/coy/neighbors for being corrupt. Its same for fx rate disparity. Even hitherto innocent cbn staff are tempted to be corrupt because of exchange rate disparity.

benardtotti:
You said bread will be 3500. Bro bread will be 7500 for starters .

Why was bread not 7500 when we had subsidy
Bread increased by over 300% when subsidy was removed. Your prediction is actually the other way round in reality

Olofofo247ng:
Alhaji Atiku's policies are for the benefit of neighboring countries not Nigerians.

It is not surprising though, it confirms the suspicions of a lot of people.

Nigerians must defend Nigeria against a man working for neighboring countries.

#KemKem




Source:

Alhaji Atiku's policies are for the benefit of neighboring countries not Nigerians.

It is not surprising though, it confirms the suspicions of a lot of people.

Nigerians must defend Nigeria against a man working for neighboring countries.#KemKempic.twitter.com/FzLUrtfPBb

— Lady K (@KemPatriot) August 30, 2026

Trust the aggressive generation a.k.a. the Obidence; they must come for this woman, left, right, and center. Subsidy is gone, and nobody will bring it back. So, waiting for a political candidate who promised to bring back subsidy is like building castles in the air. Obidence has always done that, so it's not new.

byinks:
All you managed to say is that you prefer corruption privatised by APC rather than another group.
Everybody knows the subsidy monies are being looted by those it was diverted to.

I do prefer the current subsidy removal to the proposition by AA. The latter's is illegal (PIA), corrupt, retrogressive (wrt Revenue)...
I also want more coherent system to ameliorate the suffering of the poor...but returning fuel subsidy is not the way.

byinks:
All you managed to say is that you prefer corruption privatised by APC rather than another group.
Everybody knows the subsidy monies are being looted by those it was diverted to.

I do prefer the current subsidy removal to the proposition by AA. The latter's is illegal (PIA), corrupt, retrogressive (wrt Revenue)...
I also want more coherent system to ameliorate the suffering of the poor...but returning fuel subsidy is not the way.

Olofofo247ng:
Alhaji Atiku's policies are for the benefit of neighboring countries not Nigerians.

It is not surprising though, it confirms the suspicions of a lot of people.

Nigerians must defend Nigeria against a man working for neighboring countries.

#KemKem




Source:

Alhaji Atiku's policies are for the benefit of neighboring countries not Nigerians.

It is not surprising though, it confirms the suspicions of a lot of people.

Nigerians must defend Nigeria against a man working for neighboring countries.#KemKempic.twitter.com/FzLUrtfPBb

— Lady K (@KemPatriot) August 30, 2026

No be this woman wey forge NYSC certificate?

Like will always suppose like.

AMINDA:
Misleading headline. Regurgitation and remastication of old news. Nigerians are worse-off today than they were before subsidy removal. Atiku will bring back subsidy and heaven will not fall.

It's would have been a dumb move for any president to allow subsidy stay one day further cos by now, Nigerians would have been eating from the bin in millions

Richtaiwo:
Nigeria’s perennial haters will suddenly remember Kemi Adeosun and proceed to insult the living daylight out of her, as though she is personally responsible for their problems.

But the good thing is that neither Atiku nor his boy, Peter Obi will ever be president of Nigeria.

Atiku and Peter Obi after 2027 elections

Kemi is not responsible for the current problems of Nigeria. Tinubu has admitted he is responsible for the failures.

anonimi:
May Day: Hunger, unemployment, insecurity real— Tinubu

According to him: “The theme demands our collective attention and serves as a stark reminder of the need to create an environment where every worker feels safe, valued, and empowered to contribute to the growth and prosperity of our nation. As your President, I assure you that this administration is committed to creating such an environment for the common good.”

On the economic hardship, he noted that while it is a global phenomenon, its effects on Nigerians are particularly severe.

Tinubu said: “I am aware of the peculiarities of the economic hardship Nigerians face—rising living costs, hunger, insecurity, unemployment, and the loss of livelihoods. These challenges are real and demand definitive solutions, which I am poised to address as your President.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/05/may-day-hunger-unemployment-insecurity-real-tinubu/

MICHEALADEX:
It's would have been a dumb move for any president to allow subsidy stay one day further cos by now, Nigerians would have been eating from the bin in millions

At what point in PDP’s prosperity years did you eat from the bin?

Why are people now eating from the bin and dying in stampedes of palliative distribution?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYltMapDyIo?si=0-hO0Vt5C9uBxVd1

Omooba77:
The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

The National Association of Seadogs (Pyrates Confraternity) says it is deeply saddened by the tragic loss of over 60 lives in Oyo, Anambra, and Abuja during recent palliative distribution stampedes.

The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

“While we commend the government's effort to alleviate the plight of vulnerable citizens through palliatives, it is evident that these measures have been marred by inadequate planning, poor coordination, and lack of accountability,” it said.

According to the group, the chaotic scenes that led to the fatal incidents are an “indictment of the systemic failure to address the root causes of hunger and poverty”.

The group noted that rising hunger in Nigeria is a national emergency that demands urgent action.

“Failure to act decisively will deepen the crisis, with devastating social, economic, and political consequences,” it said.

“We mourn with the families of the deceased and demand that the government ensures accountability for this avoidable tragedy. Hunger should never be a death sentence in a country blessed with abundant resources.”

“It is time to rise to the challenge of ensuring that every Nigerian can live with dignity, free from the scourge of poverty and hunger,” it added.

Therefore, the association called on all levels of government to urgently prioritize sustainable solutions to the hunger crisis.

It said, “Palliatives must reach the intended beneficiaries without endangering lives. Transparent and well-organised systems, with the involvement of community leaders and credible NGOs, should be put in place to avoid chaotic distributions.

“Beyond temporary relief measures, the government must develop long-term strategies to enhance food production, support local farmers, and stabilize food prices.

“Programmes aimed at addressing the needs of the most vulnerable must be scaled up. Access to affordable healthcare, education, and social safety nets is critical to lifting millions out of poverty.

“Policies that create jobs and enhance income-generating opportunities should be fast-tracked to reduce dependency on palliatives.”

The association noted that two of its chapters in Edo State (Area 3) recently had successful palliative programmes, during which over 2,000 underprivileged persons were fed.

It added that one of the key components of the programme was orderliness.

https://saharareporters.com/2024/12/22/deaths-oyo-anambra-abuja-food-sharing-stampedes-are-sign-hunger-economic-hardship

Buccalcavity2:
I do prefer the current subsidy removal to the proposition by AA. The latter's is illegal (PIA), corrupt, retrogressive (wrt Revenue)...
I also want more coherent system to ameliorate the suffering of the poor...but returning fuel subsidy is not the way.

Funny did you know or would you care to know that fuel subsidy never went anywhere, it only changed hands . So to use words like return or bring back is totally misleading....

Atiku promised to restore subsidy into the hands of 200 million Nigerians rather than 200 select public office holders and appointees. Equity over elitism.

this is humane governance, something alien to bulabablu and followers.

Buccalcavity2:
Thank you. Subsidies are inefficiencies conceptually. It is why it is targeted to achieve an end. Hence a cost benefit analysis case is built around it. Other countries already have robust system to identify every individual, coy, monitoring margins....
Problem with 🇳🇬 fuel subsidy is the difficulty in targeting it to the right people. As explained earlier, cost of monitoring/ctrl the targeting may even outweigh the subsidy. It is the reason why you need to leave the process to market and then specifically target the poor with proceeds from the savings, in my opinion. That is more efficient rather than creating opportunity for corruption and later blame people/coy/neighbors for being corrupt. Its same for fx rate disparity. Even hitherto innocent cbn staff are tempted to be corrupt because of exchange rate disparity.

Abeg who are the right people for fuel subsidy?

MoneyMan5:
You think guarding borders is very easy? Even USA have a lot of trouble guarding their borders not to even talk of Nigeria

This is the problem. People think securing border is about guarding the border. Na wa oh

This forgery woman supposed to be languishing in prison. Who let her out to pour rubbish 🗑 as usual

Beautifulday:
Abeg who are the right people for fuel subsidy?

Masses. Depending on how its thought out. Otedola, PS, senators, Atiku, Obi.... I, definitely dont need fuel subsidy. Can use flat rate for unique bvn with lower than N1.5m annual turnover. Or adopt a graded approach, like they do in the west for child care benefits. E.g you dont qualify for any if your income doesnt qualify and you qualify for a % depending on income level since out PIT is based on graded system. Conversely I got a 300 dollar carbon tax subsidy for a period of just 4 months after which nothing again while I know my friends in other states didnt even get any coz thier governors didnt believe in that subsidy! That is targeted subsidy. You can quantify impact.
Check out the pseudo subsidy on CNG conversion where they discovered that savings were kept by transporters and not transfered to commuters as intended. That is waste.

Kukutente23:
Why was bread not 7500 when we had subsidy
Bread increased by over 300% when subsidy was removed. Your prediction is actually the other way round in reality

You celebrate your ignorance daily on this forum

Between 1999 and 2015 when pdp and subsidy was available, the price percentage of a loaf of bread went up by over 700% with your so called subsidy .

benardtotti:
You celebrate your ignorance daily on this forum

Between 1999 and 2015 when pdp and subsidy was available, the price percentage of a loaf of bread went up by over 700% with your so called subsidy .

You seem to be lost in a seabed of Statistics
16 years and bread moved 700%. That's an average of 43% per year
In 3 years of no subsidy bread moved by 300%. That's an average of 100% per year. Which is worse from your angle?

BrickandLace:
Funny did you know or would you care to know that fuel subsidy never went anywhere, it only changed hands . So to use words like return or bring back is totally misleading....

Atiku promised to restore subsidy into the hands of 200 million Nigerians rather than 200 select public office holders and appointees. Equity over elitism.

this is humane governance, something alien to bulabablu and followers.

Atiku's plans would basically lead to our country going into debt, and to a loss of refining capacity.

The problem with subsidy is that let's say that government budgets N13 Trn for subsidy, for a certain year, and rises in oil prices over time push subsidy costs to N20 trillion. Government does not have the money to add 7 trillion immediately , so it borrows...adding more debt to our already huge debt situation.

Then smuggling also pushes costs of subsidy up too as well,

All in all, government would be struggling year in and out to pay for subsidy and this would affect the refineries badly, leading to them degrading, Nigeria importing more and then subsidising the imported fuel...leading to massive loss of forex, and no savings, and more debt.

The result is, we get back to square one. No refinery, no money, massive debt. Poor savings.

chidiokay:
I wont even attack her criminal personality, lets face the message

How in the world is subsidy crude to dangote refinery ...going to be divert to cameroun or angola or cotonou

These apc rats are so dumb they still dont know we have moved to an era of Dangote refinery on board not the former system we subsidizy an opaque nd no tracking import/marketers regime anything goes

What kemi adeosun is saying is only logical to the former subsidy regime on " Import"

what Atiku is proposing is prioritize n subsidy crude to local refinery ... this link is trackable n verifiable

Who will divert crude sold to dangote nd it will not burst into open, the records of crude given to dangote and Dangote sells to accredited fillings station ...so the link are traceable and can be monitored

what Atiku is proposing, Russia, argentina, iran and saudi arabia are doing it for ages now .. because of border you prefer to watch Nigerians die suffering of high cost, we cant fix border abi

You make me remember Professor Talabi. Whenever a medical student gave a wrong answer during his rounds, he would say, in his unique, baritone voice, and with a pitying look, “You are dull.”

nairalanda1:
Atiku's plans would basically lead to our country going into debt, and to a loss of refining capacity.

The problem with subsidy is that let's say that government budgets N13 Trn for subsidy, for a certain year, and rises in oil prices over time push subsidy costs to N20 trillion. Government does not have the money to add 7 trillion immediately , so it borrows...adding more debt to our already huge debt situation.

Then smuggling also pushes costs of subsidy up too as well,

All in all, government would be struggling year in and out to pay for subsidy and this would affect the refineries badly, leading to them degrading, Nigeria importing more and then subsidising the imported fuel...leading to massive loss of forex, and no savings, and more debt.

The result is, we get back to square one. No refinery, no money, massive debt. Poor savings.

We have the lowest quality of life in the world

We have the lowest life expectancy on earth. How have your wicked anti human reforms addressed the above human indices.

All this rambling about 13 trillion, smuggling and debt is meaningless to the average Nigerian voter. People are dying in their numbers and you're talking about smugglers ?

SMH.

Atiku will restore subsidy

We have nothing, I mean absolutely nothing more to lose. These fiction about losing savings and going into debt doesn't scare us anymore.

We had no savings in Jonathan obj and Yar'Adua years ?
This nonsense started with you guys in 2015 and now you want terrify and control the population with this sleazy narrative so you can stuff your stomachs and pockets a little longer.....

It's not working.

Nigerians have decided your subsidy scam isn't working and will vote for whoever will return in it back to the people.

I think you guys are scared.
And rightfully scared too.

APC have outdone themselves.

Ofunaofu:
That’s not ideal, bro.

The message is only as credible as the messenger. If the messenger lacks credibility and integrity, what good can possibly come from what such an individual puts forward?

but when a mad man gives your oga advise he can take the message and leave the messanger?.. una go just dey behave like person wey get mental imbalance because of politics

BrickandLace:
We have the lowest quality of life in the world

We have the lowest life expectancy on earth. How have your wicked anti human reforms addressed the above human indices.

All this rambling about 13 trillion, smuggling and debt is meaningless to the average Nigerian voter. People are dying in their numbers and you're talking about smugglers ?

SMH.

Atiku will restore subsidy

We have nothing, I mean absolutely nothing more to lose. These fiction about losing savings and going into debt doesn't scare us anymore.

We had no savings in Jonathan obj and Yar'Adua years ?
This nonsense started with you guys in 2015 and now you want terrify and control the population with this sleazy narrative so you can stuff your stomachs and pockets a little longer.....

It's not working.

Nigerians have decided your subsidy scam isn't working and will vote for whoever will return in it back to the people.

I think you guys are scared.
And rightfully scared too.

APC have outdone themselves.

Having the lowest quality of life in the world is an admission by you that we do not have enough money for anything, including subsidy.

nairalanda1:
Having the lowest quality of life in the world is an admission by you that we do not have enough money for anything, including subsidy.

I didn't say that . The rest of the world said that.

Check the stats 10 years ago. Nigeria wasn't at the bottom.

Keep rambling about not enough money ...

Are you not tired of representing your employers as a party of bloodthirsty vampires ?

You're not doing a good PR job for them at this rate.

Either you resign or they will sack you.

lebienconnu:
You make me remember Professor Talabi. Whenever a medical student gave a wrong answer during his rounds, he would say, in his unique, baritone voice, and with a pitying look, “You are dull.”

you probaby cant forget becos he always talking to you

BrickandLace:
I didn't say that . The rest of the world said that.

Check the stats 10 years ago. Nigeria wasn't at the bottom.

Keep rambling about not enough money ...

Are you not tired of representing your employers as a party of bloodthirsty vampires ?

You're not doing a good PR job for them at this rate.

Either you resign or they will sack you.

Nigeria has never had a high quality of life. Even ten years or more ago we could not afford subsidy. That's why the government wanted to remove it in 2012.Also in 2012, over 60 per cent of people were living below the poverty line.

Nigeria has never had an economy that can generate sustained economic growth. This has been the case since independence. We also have had governments dominated by people who want to loot, not to pay for development, and socialists who want to give everyone cheap stuff at the expense of even borrowing.

A good nigerian government would have found ways to improve domestic productivity, even at the expense of there being no subsides on refining crude and electricity, and so forth. That way, we would have had enough money, and a lot of industries would have grown way beyond the level they are now, producing goods for export...which leads to prosperity.

Instead we have had governments that use reveneu from raw materials sales to live fake life, and when the revenues fall due to falling prices, we borrow to sustain the fake life. Either way it is not enough, so at the end most people are broke.

That's why I do not regard this government, and all past governments as good governments. Yes, I support subsidy removal, not because it was tinubu who removed it, it is sad he is the one, especially since he hypocritically opposed its removal in 2012, but because I believe that increased investment would generate jobs for nigerians overall. It's also why I support removal of subsides on electricity, for the same reason, and because it would power job growth in the nation eventually. See GSM, that was deregulated by Obasanjo, and now we not only have phones in everyone's hands, poor people included, we alos have a lot of direct and indirect jobs that did not exist once upon a time. And this is a view I have held since 2011, butressed by years of reading around the topic. I believe that eventually we would have sustained economic growth...and the good life.

And it is also because we have seen what happens when governments try to subsidise everything. It always ends in debt, and more debt, and sometimes collapse. RIght now, thanks in part to not removing subsidy on time, government is now borrowing far more than it should. And yes, it is partly their fault...they should have supported subsidy removal in 2012, and even helped explain to Nigerians why.

Richtaiwo:
Nigeria’s perennial haters will suddenly remember Kemi Adeosun and proceed to insult the living daylight out of her, as though she is personally responsible for their problems.

But the good thing is that neither Atiku nor his boy, Peter Obi will ever be president of Nigeria.

Atiku and Peter Obi after 2027 elections

all this epistle you wrote doesn't change the fact she's a certificate forger.

nairalanda1:
Nigeria has never had a high quality of life. Even ten years or more ago we could not afford subsidy. That's why the government wanted to remove it in 2012.Also in 2012, over 60 per cent of people were living below the poverty line.

Nigeria has never had an economy that can generate sustained economic growth. This has been the case since independence. We also have had governments dominated by people who want to loot, not to pay for development, and socialists who want to give everyone cheap stuff at the expense of even borrowing.

A good nigerian government would have found ways to improve domestic productivity, even at the expense of there being no subsides on refining crude and electricity, and so forth. That way, we would have had enough money, and a lot of industries would have grown way beyond the level they are now, producing goods for export...which leads to prosperity.

Instead we have had governments that use reveneu from raw materials sales to live fake life, and when the revenues fall due to falling prices, we borrow to sustain the fake life. Either way it is not enough, so at the end most people are broke.

That's why I do not regard this government, and all past governments as good governments. Yes, I support subsidy removal, not because it was tinubu who removed it, it is sad he is the one, especially since he hypocritically opposed its removal in 2012, but because I believe that increased investment would generate jobs for nigerians overall. It's also why I support removal of subsides on electricity, for the same reason, and because it would power job growth in the nation eventually. See GSM, that was deregulated by Obasanjo, and now we not only have phones in everyone's hands, poor people included, we alos have a lot of direct and indirect jobs that did not exist once upon a time. And this is a view I have held since 2011, butressed by years of reading around the topic. I believe that eventually we would have sustained economic growth...and the good life.

And it is also because we have seen what happens when governments try to subsidise everything. It always ends in debt, and more debt, and sometimes collapse. RIght now, thanks in part to not removing subsidy on time, government is now borrowing far more than it should. And yes, it is partly their fault...they should have supported subsidy removal in 2012, and even helped explain to Nigerians why.

"Fake life "..sounds familiar...
More real deaths are expected over the next 2 decades. The 90 years old reformer couldnt be bothered... Bravo !

BrickandLace:
"Fake life "..sounds familiar...
More real deaths are expected over the next 2 decades. The 90 years old reformer couldnt be bothered... Bravo !

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."— Socrates

Thanks for slandering me. That's why I blocked you, because you essentially responded to my post with slander. It shows you know you have lost the argument, and you do not want to accept the truth.

I do not talk to people who misreperesent or lie against me or have the lack of knowledge to understand my postion on the nigerian economy.

Thanks again for talking. Good morning, and please do not quote me again.

Brickandlace you have rattled the mods here ...
Hahaha 🤣🤣