₦airaland Forum

lawani:
Fish and oil is what Norway has for export. Oil in Bayelsa maybe 2 to 3 billion dollars a year. Fish maybe 500 million dollars if they do it well. It is something. Everybody is in their states doing something

Norway owns and export teh OIl, Bayelsa does not own neither export oil, its NNPC vis FG of Nigeria, try and get the fact right, Fish? what fish the ones the oil exploration has killed? or do we have new species? enlighten me more please. Look I am not glorifying this I am only pushing and steering you to the direction of that narrative that says Oil is a curse rather than a blessing i n mismanaged Africa.

pigmania:
I was there last year to see a big shot nicknamed Okiemute, owner of Okie's hotel. I heard a guy bought Lamborghini Urus too, boys are driving GLK Benz anyhow. But what's the population of G boys in that small town compared to Lagos? Cybertruck, Lambos, Ferraris, Rolls Royce Cullinan, Bentleys, Bugatti, bros these cars dey Lagos Island alone, not to talk of mainland. Sapele boys dey try, no doubt. But Lagos boys don tear eye before them. lagos boys don cast far back as 2002.

Anytime I get in Nigeria and I can tell you the boys who drive those big cars i n Lasgidis are not Gmen period, you are misinformed.Those nah pushers,Nowadays they all cover face as Gmen nah lie oh go check am well those people dey ship out ship in powder and evry them money long pass Gmen

Samuels90:
This is the big question. If it was used properly, their state would have been better. Too much pollution on their soil and water too!

Thank you, this is what he fails to understand

erico2k2:
Anytime I get in Nigeria and I can tell you the boys who drive those big cars i n Lasgidis are not Gmen period, you are misinformed.Those nah pushers,Nowadays they all cover face as Gmen nah lie oh go check am well those people dey ship out ship in powder and evry them money long pass Gmen

E sweet me as you admit say pushers dey see money pass G boys, you know what's up. Make we no argue again, and I hope you're not saying this because of KC Luxury's recent case.

pigmania:
E sweet me as you admit say pushers dey see money pass G boys, you know what's up. Make we no argue again, and I hope you're not saying this because of KC Luxury's recent case.

Nothing spoil

zikter:
So are you comparing the network coverage in Lagos and Kano? Seriously? It seems you have not gone out of Lagos and probably south west. I am very familiar with the Northern terrain and currently living in Lagos. So, I know what I am telling you. Not everywhere that is urban and opened up like Lagos please. If you do BVN statistics, Lagos will still be far ahead due to easy accessibility. That doesn't automatically translates to more people in Lagos. If you check some stats of other cities in developed countries that are far less in population than Lagos, you will discover they have more internet subscription than what Lagos has. It is simply because they can easily access and afford it. It doesn't mean they are more in population than Lagos

You can have more internet connection per capital in say London and one of the reasons is that they have a higher average age of like 47 or above. Most of them are adults while most people here are kids. Kids don't have personal internet connection in Nigeria. Then they will also have more connections at work places. However the number of kids here is the main reason our Internet connection density will be lower

I know Kano State is very rural but I doubt there are large settlements there without GSM coverage and places like Ogun and Oyo are also big. Kano isn't bigger than Niger state and etc and if Niger state can pull the weight it pulled then your position about Kano isn't really tenable. There are many states more rural than Kano by not having any settlement up to 300k people despite being as big as Kano.

On BVN, just around half or about 60 percent of adult Nigerians have BVN. It appears people in the North generally do not have bank accounts because I have not met a southerner that does not. They don't really use the NIN they registered for. The number of BVNs do not match the number of NINs and it normally should if every adult had a bank account but there is a very wide gap.

In short, when you are in the same country, differentials in such data should match the differential in population. In the south it would and if the country were serious it would match everywhere

erico2k2:
Norway owns and export teh OIl, Bayelsa does not own neither export oil, its NNPC vis FG of Nigeria, try and get the fact right, Fish? what fish the ones the oil exploration has killed? or do we have new species? enlighten me more please. Look I am not glorifying this I am only pushing and steering you to the direction of that narrative that says Oil is a curse rather than a blessing i n mismanaged Africa.

People generally don't own one hundred percent of most things. Bayelsa takes 13 percent of oil money from fields found several miles offshore on the Atlantic ocean. That is free money. With even less than ten percent of a company, you are the CEO

lawani:
People generally don't own one hundred percent of most things. Bayelsa takes 13 percent of oil money from fields found several miles offshore on the Atlantic ocean. That is free money. With even less than ten percent of a company, you are the CEO

People do, Texas owns the whole Oil i n Texas and pay tax to the federal government. The 13 percent derivative earned from oil is basically dead on arrival B4 it get shared. You talking, what benefit have you gotten from these Oil wells if n ot sorry tears and blud?

erico2k2:
People do, Texas owns the whole Oil i n Texas and pay tax to the federal government. The 13 percent derivative earned from oil is basically dead on arrival B4 it get shared. You talking, what benefit have you gotten from these Oil wells if n ot sorry tears and blud?

I know you are talking of control. Would you take control in exchange for 5 percent equity? 13 percent on something you didn't put there that is not even on your farm land isn't a small concession

lawani:
You can have more internet connection per capital in say London and one of the reasons is that they have a higher average age of like 47 or above. Most of them are adults while most people here are kids. Kids don't have personal internet connection in Nigeria. Then they will also have more connections at work places. However the number of kids here is the main reason our Internet connection density will be lower

I know Kano State is very rural but I doubt there are large settlements there without GSM coverage and places like Ogun and Oyo are also big. Kano isn't bigger than Niger state and etc and if Niger state can pull the weight it pulled then your position about Kano isn't really tenable. There are many states more rural than Kano by not having any settlement up to 300k people despite being as big as Kano.

On BVN, just around half or about 60 percent of adult Nigerians have BVN. It appears people in the North generally do not have bank accounts because I have not met a southerner that does not. They don't really use the NIN they registered for. The number of BVNs do not match the number of NINs and it normally should if every adult had a bank account but there is a very wide gap.

In short, when you are in the same country, differentials in such data should match the differential in population. In the south it would and if the country were serious it would match everywhere

Even within the same age group of people in Lagos and London, you will find out that, higher population will have more internet access in london compare to lagos, even with higher population in Lagos. Their standard of living is higher than ours and they can afford it more either at work or otherwise. Same applies to Lagos and Kano. You have more exposure and higher income earners in Lagos than you would find in Kano. I keep emphasizing that, Lagos as a whole is a big city, where you will hardly find a typical village as somewhere else. Do not look at Kano as in Kano city, but as a state where you can use hours to get to interior villages, some with no access road at all. I don't know if Kano is more populated than Lagos or the other way round. My concern is that, you can not conclude on the basis of internet subscription, BVN or PVC. Several other factors such as accessibility, affordability, exposure, education etc come into play in achieving those statistics.

zikter:
Even within the same age group of people in Lagos and London, you will find out that, higher population will have more internet access in london compare to lagos, even with higher population in Lagos. Their standard of living is higher than ours and they can afford it more either at work or otherwise. Same applies to Lagos and Kano. You have more exposure and higher income earners in Lagos than you would find in Kano. I keep emphasizing that, Lagos as a whole is a big city, where you will hardly find a typical village as somewhere else. Do not look at Kano as in Kano city, but as a state where you can use hours to get to interior villages, some with no access road at all. I don't know if Kano is more populated than Lagos or the other way round. My concern is that, you can not conclude on the basis of internet subscription, BVN or PVC. Several other factors such as accessibility, affordability, exposure, education etc come into play in achieving those statistics.

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You can't just dismiss data like that because if for example people in the North are not taking NIN seriously then their NIN will match their BVN. They register NIN but in the main do not use it for anything. They register PVC only to vote. So don't push the narrative of them being novices who don't know the meaning of NIN or PVC and that they don't use phones would also be wrong because why not say they don't use transistor radios? The only explanation that makes sense is that some of their women are not allowed to use phones and also that they have a somewhat younger population at home. Maybe if Kano has igr, their adults will return home

lawani:
I know you are talking of control. Would you take control in exchange for 5 percent equity? 13 percent on something you didn't put there that is not even on your farm land isn't a small concession

Im not talking control ,Im talking ownership and also this your 13percent what has it done in Bayelsa state

erico2k2:
Im not talking control ,Im talking ownership and also this your 13percent what has it done in Bayelsa state

If Bayelsa takes everything it will not necessarily better their lot. It isn't natural resources that makes a nation develop but the oil on the high seas does not belong to only the people on the coast in reality. The high seas which forms 70 percent of Earth's surface isn't the property of a handful of people.
Believe me if 13 percent of less than 2 million bpd can't help then if it is of 10 million bod it will still not help and 100 percent of less than 2:million bpd will certainly be the same.
However the oil does not belong to Bayelsa just because they are fishing on the coast

Banditry is probably boosting the number of subscribers in the north west.

Fraud
Oyo state is the most populated state. Not Lagos.

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lawani:
If Bayelsa takes everything it will not necessarily better their lot. It isn't natural resources that makes a nation develop but the oil on the high seas does not belong to only the people on the coast in reality. The high seas which forms 70 percent of Earth's surface isn't the property of a handful of people.
Believe me if 13 percent of less than 2 million bpd can't help then if it is of 10 million bod it will still not help and 100 percent of less than 2:million bpd will certainly be the same.
However the oil does not belong to Bayelsa just because they are fishing on the coast

You are misinformed, that part of the seas is seeded to a part of Nigeria called bayelsa.If you as Bayelsans do well with the revenues derived from sale of what ever natural resources you got and pay taxes to the FG as it is practiced in true federalism, you will by far better off than most states with untapped and tested natural resources ie Kwara state and others.What do you think happened in the UAE? the people of the UAE DO NOT WORK, go to Doha for example its international Airport is manned by foreigners, no one works there.I just went fru there last week enroute work.

Not true. It’s not even in the top 5.

math2001:
Fraud
Oyo state is the most populated state. Not Lagos.

erico2k2:
You are misinformed, that part of the seas is seeded to a part of Nigeria called bayelsa.If you as Bayelsans do well with the revenues derived from sale of what ever natural resources you got and pay taxes to the FG as it is practiced in true federalism, you will by far better off than most states with untapped and tested natural resources ie Kwara state and others.What do you think happened in the UAE? the people of the UAE DO NOT WORK, go to Doha for example its international Airport is manned by foreigners, no one works there.I just went fru there last week enroute work.

What is inside the high seas does not by any means belong to a handful of people living on the coast. You may argue for the things on your farmland though but even that buried under ground is free money.

I have explained to you that you can have control and less income or no control and more income. So control isn't actually what is most important if you reflect properly. 13 percent of free money on the high seas isn't a small concession. If they were given 100 percent and they don't have a serious leadership there will still be extreme poverty in the land.

If the UN agrees to littoral states owning minerals several miles offshore, it does not mean they are right because the vast majority of all minerals on Earth is in the oceans and any law saying it belongs to a handful of people on the coast is not a well thought out law.

lawani:
What is inside the high seas does not by any means belong to a handful of people living on the coast. You may argue for the things on your farmland though but even that buried under ground is free money.

I have explained to you that you can have control and less income or no control and more income. So control isn't actually what is most important if you reflect properly. 13 percent of free money on the high seas isn't a small concession. If they were given 100 percent and they don't have a serious leadership there will still be extreme poverty in the land.

If the UN agrees to littoral states owning minerals several miles offshore, it does not mean they are right because the vast majority of all minerals on Earth is in the oceans and any law saying it belongs to a handful of people on the coast is not a well thought out law.

At this point I believe you are confused sorry to say, how can you make income of what you do not have control over?Xplain to me how you make money out of sea area you don't control plz, or are you confusing high seas with international waters?I can see you are despirately trying to sound inteligent but my friend I am afriad to tell you right about now you over shot the runway!

erico2k2:
At this point I believe you are confused sorry to say, how can you make income of what you do not have control over?Xplain to me how you make money out of sea area you don't control plz, or are you confusing high seas with international waters?I can see you are despirately trying to sound inteligent but my friend I am afriad to tell you right about now you over shot the runway!

You are totally confused. The oceans contain more than 70 percent of Earth's resources and those resources does not exclusively belong to a handful of people who just happen to be living on the coast. If you think so you are just deluded and if any law says so it will be changed when people wake up.

lawani:
You are totally confused. The oceans contain more than 70 percent of Earth's resources and those resources does not exclusively belong to a handful of people who just happen to be living on the coast. If you think so you are just deluded and if any law says so it will be changed when people wake up.

Bro wo wo, this argument of yours has nothing to do with what I was talking about, this is you arguing with you, All I said was Oil , nothing about what is under or on top water, that's for you and you to argue about, all I said was what has 13 percent done for bayelsa state ,I can see you are even yoruba I don't know how you became more expert in things of the Niger Delts even Do I'm from Rivers and Delta states. Bayelsa sate by the way is the least developed state amongst the Niger Deltans.How your argument went to owning whats under the water from Oil revenue,I dont know

erico2k2:
Bro wo wo, this argument of yours has nothing to do with what I was talking about, this is you arguing with you, All I said was Oil , nothing about what is under or on top water, that's for you and you to argue about, all I said was what has 13 percent done for bayelsa state ,I can see you are even yoruba I don't know how you became more expert in things of the Niger Delts even Do I'm from Rivers and Delta states. Bayelsa sate by the way is the least developed state amongst the Niger Deltans.How your argument went to owning whats under the water from Oil revenue,I dont know

My point is that you can claim something on your farmland and even that one the whole world can come to a new understanding on all minerals and the ownership can change but the one hundreds of kilometers offshore is certainly not in the same category. It does not affect your means of livelihood at all like a farm. Territorial waters is mainly awarded for defense and maritime purposes not as a source of livelihood or what are you looking for even 100 km offshore?

lawani:
My point is that you can claim something on your farmland and even that one the whole world can come to a new understanding on all minerals and the ownership can change but the one hundreds of kilometers offshore is certainly not in the same category. It does not affect your means of livelihood at all like a farm. Territorial waters is mainly awarded for defense and maritime purposes not as a source of livelihood or what are you looking for even 100 km offshore?

Bros no vex abeg,make I pot away from this argument, anyhow you take am you win WOW, men dey! what is this gibberish up there, what is the corelation btw that and the subject matter, you drifted so far out sea that the North is beyond your scope.