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| Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by AnonPoet(op): 10:37am On Sep 10 |
Boardroom to Battleground: Diezani, Patriarchy, and the Politics of Punishment Bolouere Opukiri A stone has the same mass on Earth as it does on the Moon, but it does not weigh the same. Mass is constant; weight depends on gravity. That distinction helps explain the Diezani Alison Madueke saga. The mass of any criminal case should be evidence: documents, payment trails, credible testimony and proof that survives cross examination. But the weight attached to a case often comes from elsewhere: politics, media heat and, in the case of powerful women, patriarchal anxiety.https://www.thecable.ng/boardroom-to-battleground-diezani-patriarchy-and-the-politics-of-punishment/
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| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by williams2326(m): 4:58pm On Sep 10 |
Daziani have been discharged and acquitted |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Oxygenmayo(m): 4:58pm On Sep 10 |
The whole truth about Nigeria is that the whole system is corrupt. In saner climes, nobody is above the law because once you do the crime, you'll do the time, gender or no gender. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Dancebreaker: 5:02pm On Sep 10 |
Hmmmmmmm Politics is just too dirty. And in a corrupt ethno-religious, tribalistic enclave, it's dirty many times over. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by CalmElder(m): 5:14pm On Sep 10 |
So Allison Madueke's has been treated worse than Olisa Metuh, El-Rufai, James Ibori, Alamesiegha, Emefiele and other male politicians? I suspect PR. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by flexyrule(m): 5:15pm On Sep 10 |
Lol. She stole our collective wealth. She stole! But who am I to judge her... The entire system from top to bottom us rotten. She didn't play her cards well, and she comes from the minority. There are bigger cases of fraud that have been swept under the carpet. In all this, you cannot still compare the comfort that she enjoys while on exile, with the sufferings of millions of Nigerians walking as free men and women back home. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by QuinQQ(f): 5:15pm On Sep 10*. Modified: 5:36pm On Sep 10 |
williams2326:After how many years of orchestrated adjournments and high-level legal maneuverings? Highly-paid legal maneuverings is what freed her, not that she's not extremely corrupt! |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by PepeXKermit: 5:35pm On Sep 10 |
Oxygenmayo:You think say if acyual embezzlement dey uk go let her go? There might have been but these people work on evidence snd not sentiments |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by alpharoyalty: 5:39pm On Sep 10 |
What the op is saying is that there are worse political office holders in Nigeria that remained untouched till now. The former aviation minister that sold us Nigeria air. The former humanitarian minister that was overtly corrupt. Former governors and plenty more. Political alliance, ethnic alliance and religious alliances are some of the deciding factors. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by HeatSeeker(m): 5:59pm On Sep 10 |
Oxygenmayo:Guy! If you can't prove anything, you have no case! I am still waiting for efcc to show us the diamond bra |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Karlovych: 6:00pm On Sep 10 |
Efunroye Tinubu was a notorious slave trader in Lagos |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Nairagistmaniac: 7:00pm On Sep 10 |
AnonPoet:You probably have a good argument about gendered public humiliation, but a weak argument if that is being used to substantially rehabilitate Diezani's corruption record. ...none of that makes the substantive corruption case disappear. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:26pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:you lot will just come on line and chatt gabage,we are talking of a LONDON court here not the kangaroo one in Nigeria, you think these lot give a damnnn bout your money Do not forget she was not in government during this case so no diplomatic i munity here. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:29pm On Sep 10 |
HeatSeeker:I actually went to one of the hearing, the EFCC are the most silly set of people I have ever seen, they even tried to put statement into one of the security personal words .They made it look as if the lady goes to the shop like 10 times a day over years, but when he was questioned under oath they found out she only went there like me and you will and she spent less than 7k Dollars, and the bra saga and all the huge purchase made apparently she was not in the country and she never made them hence the case fell apart, the EFCC knew this hence they refuse to produce their own witness and also refused to give evidence on video or in person on a case the put 4ward. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:31pm On Sep 10 |
Oxygenmayo:But this lady was tried in a saner clime and she was found not guilty so far, same saner clime that sentenced Ibori and the one time 003 of Nigeria to jail. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by QuinQQ(f): 7:32pm On Sep 10 |
erico2k2:See pure ignorance. So London court is not man-know-man? Why do you think some lawyers make 100 times what some other lawyers make? Any time you see a case dragging on for so.long know that expensive lawyers are doing their thing and the case.is surely headed towards dismissal |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:38pm On Sep 10*. Modified: 9:15pm On Sep 11 |
QuinQQ:Look at the illiteracy fenced in your argument, nothing like man know man here, I live in it, if you are found wanting you will be thrown under the BUS,you think the judges here give a flying fvck here, do you know the worth of some of the people the throw in jail? Billionaires are i n Jail i n the UK.These are teh people who threw Boy George in Jail, threw R kelly in Jail and PDiddy in jail, you think they give a damn bout your cash, these are hard core people they don't care if they live under the rock they are just principled, this is what you don't have in Nigeria, Principle. They dnt mind chasing 10 pounds with 500k.I have been to courts across the Uk you have not, you have no Idea how powerful the Judges are i n the UK. Another thing that you are ignorance about is that the Judge does not decide if a person is guilty or not they don't, the Jury does, the judge just gives directive. So those 12 people i n the jury are the ones to determine your faith |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Judolisco(m): 7:41pm On Sep 10 |
The biggest problem of the south south people na the south south people themselves |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by GeneralOuki: 7:48pm On Sep 10 |
Oxygenmayo:Na so. How many times did Trump do before becoming president? How about OJ Simpson? Hillary Clinton? I could go on and on |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by QuinQQ(f): 7:49pm On Sep 10*. Modified: 8:04pm On Sep 10 |
erico2k2:I don't care where you live. Judges belong to the same clubs and play golf with some lawyers but not others. There's a reason some lawyers make 100 times more than others. Once the judge sees their name they'll start looking for excuse to acquit or dismiss. They'll keep awarding adjournments till that reason is developed. It is called ADJOURN, ADJOURN, ADJOURN, DISMISS! DaGC:She didn't suffer anything. It was part of the path of her very expensive lawyers. Somewhere along the line none of the properties and monies she stole belonged to her! If it were you, you'd have been jailed that first year. Why do you think she bought citizenship of an island country and fled Nigeria? She's now spending on image laundry, and this piece is part of it! ![]() |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by DaGC(m): 7:55pm On Sep 10 |
For over a decade she suffered. Even spoke about issue last week with friends. Nigeria and Africa happened to her. Still waiting if she might sue for the damaged reputation abi na defamation of for people wey go school🤷🏿♂️ |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:57pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:Sir your ignorance is xtreem, typical .I don't think you even know what a Jury is,you are talking out of your backside |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 7:58pm On Sep 10 |
DaGC:I d ont think she would why would she? her pension alone is enough or her to live in the Uk comfortable till she dies. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by DaGC(m): 8:08pm On Sep 10 |
erico2k2:When she was acquitted, I felt bad and felt sorry for her knowing all she went through for over a decade. I was among those who was thinking she really emptied Nigeria treasury but not definite. Thoughts aren't fact🙄. With her qualifications and amazing career, the politics tainted her achievements. First female director of major oil firm like Shell and first female president of OPEC. If not for the damaged reputation, I'm sure her legacy would have been among other great Nigerian ladies we worshipped over the years and still praising. Such is life though. Enjoy your retirement now in peace with 2 pensions.☺️ |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by DaGC(m): 8:19pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:I want to believe that you know lawyers are like every other service providers. If you are better than others in your field, then your fee is higher. That said, in a neutral judicial process, assumptions and speculations are not facts. All accusations against the defendant must be proven, and not just that but proven without a doubt regardless of who you are. There is corruption everywhere in the world, and in every sector ( remember this part), but you see kangaroo judiciary processes, it happens a LOT more in lesser economic countries where it can be manipulated by threats, inducement, out right killings etc. Legal luminaries should correct me if I'm wrong please. We learn everyday🙏🏿 |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by QuinQQ(f): 8:25pm On Sep 10*. Modified: 8:51pm On Sep 10 |
erico2k2:My friend you don't know what you're talking about. See the tactic below. Do you people ever ask yourselves why a case should last that long? Why a judge will keep granting adjournments to the defense? A judge is supposed to designate a date as "final," meaning no further requests for postponement will be accepted! erico2k2:How long did Ibori's trial last? Less than a year. Diezani lasted over 11 years! erico2k2:You can't blame them. See how long ago. Documents get lost. Memories become foggy. Besides, you don't know who was bribed to make just those "mistakes". These are still Nigerians. Given enough time, a dismissal or acquittal can be obtained in just about any case! DaGC:Ibori's trial lasted less than one year. If it lasted eleven years do you think he'd have been convicted?
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| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by Neoteny(m): 8:25pm On Sep 10 |
Same title format as always: "X, Y, and the ABC of Z" Nigerians are uncreative |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by DaGC(m): 8:52pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:I don't usually like replying questions with questions but are you saying/implying that Ibori couldn't afford the "expensive lawyers" or cover the costs of using this same tactic? Well, I didn't study law but I think the prosecution had him dead to rights on evidence(s), plus I am sure that if he could have proven his innocence, he wouldn't have been jailed🤷🏿♂️ |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by QuinQQ(f): 9:00pm On Sep 10 |
DaGC:Ibori pleaded guilty. The two cases are different. In one case someone embezzled state funds, in the other case someone owns properties and lifestyle equating her to a billionaire with no clear source of the income |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 9:18pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:All these you are copying a posting does not apply to the Uk court, there is no such word as plaintiff in the Uk system because the first thing the judge does after swearing in the Jury is to set a time scale for the case and give directives .Both lawyers now look in their dairy and agree on dates, to see what dates is fair to them, The judge also ask the jury to see who has holiday booked etc hence initially the jury is up to 40 then they are scaled down to 15 and when the trial starts proper it goes to 12.This is true for the criminal case. cos it will be btween the defendant and the King.If you cant pay for a defence lawyer the government will provide one to defend you.But to get a realy good defence barrister you will need topay, people like a guy called scubby will charge nearly 30k pounds for a one week trial. The only way a judge can adjourn a case is ifit is i n the public interest, or a jury was sick,Cos every time a judge adjourn a case for a significant amount of time, he has to restart the case from scratch,he cannot continue from where he stopped, and in most cases a new judge will be appointed to take over the case.it dnt work like Nigeria sir.I think I have been in more than 300 trails in the UK to know this. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by erico2k2(m): 9:22pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:was there any evidence in what you just said? cos I was in that Southwark court, she only own one house in the UK, the rest the EFCC claimed she owned were not her own, the EFCC do not even have details of the home she owns, and no disrespect to her, my house is even more expensive than her own. The properties they keep claiming were her own in Nigeria none could be labelled against her in the UK, the EFCC failed to provide any evidence, this is why the case collapse, its not that she was found not guilty, there was no case i n the first place. |
| Re: Diezani, Patriarchy And The Politics Of Punishment - Bolouere Opukiri by DaGC(m): 9:22pm On Sep 10 |
QuinQQ:Did you really say with no clear source of the income? There are other ways to make wealth without just income. Let's just get that out there first. Well, you already made a case comparison and his guilty plea, it now rests on the prosecution of the other case to prove she got the income illegally. That's why it's a case🙄 |
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