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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 3:47pm On Sep 13
AirBere:
What you're trying to say is that when you were arguing balance with airmark it was just those responsible for stopping goals (defenders) and those responsible for scoring goals (attackers). What about the midfielders i.e those responsible for connecting the attackers and the defenders.

Of course if you can't keep the ball, you're always going to invite pressure to your defense. Aside Caicedo, It's clear that we dont have elite midfielders who can keep the ball or win it back.

When you preach balance, you must talk about a balanced midfield, attack and defense. It cant be just attack and defense, that's imbalance. It's not one or the other. The three must work in tandem.

You can't talk about a balanced team without prioritising midfield. No way.

I'm team balance, always have been!
But how come the attack is thriving, despite the non existent midfield while only the defence appears to be suffering?

I thought a non-existent midfield should affect both units as per "balance"?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 3:47pm On Sep 13
FBS:
Clean sheets will come, guys just shouldn't expect it in every game like its a given.
Will take win everyday of the week though and then some more.
It is well documented that trophy wining teams generally concede less than other teams in the competition. Go and make you findings.

@bolded.... We should expect cleansheet EVERY GAME.

Chelsea 2004/05 conceded just 15 goals all season. That's a record thathas not and will never be beaten. Do you know how many cleansheets we had that season? If we were to spread those 15 goals one goal per game, we will still have 23 cleansheets.

That is how you win titles. Concede less.

Arsenal last season. Napoli in Serie A. Our last UCL win, just 4 goals conceded. Spain World Cup triumph few months ago... Just name it.

How do you expect to win titles conceding 2 to 3 goals per game?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 3:51pm On Sep 13
Jamiuokolaa:
But how come the attack is thriving, despite the non existent midfield while only the defence appears to be suffering?

I thought a non-existent midfield should affect both units as per "balance"?
You are the head of the agenda unit on nairaland. It was clear during the world cup.

For the emboldened, No. That's not how it works as everything isnt set in stone but I'll not elaborate because we'll end up running in circles.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 3:51pm On Sep 13
airmark:
Balderdash as usual.

What happened to Real Madrid when Makelele left them? What happened to Leicester when Kante left them after winning the Epl? What happened to Chelsea when Kante joined them after winning the league with Leicester? You have zero knowledge of the game to have downplayed the importance of a midfield.

We are talking about not having a Caicedo that was our best player penultimate season and not replacing the midfielder that contributed a lot of goals and other things to our midfield, you are here chatting sh1t to downplay the importance of important midfielders that shield the defence just to score a cheap point that you have lost since we became the World champions.

You go explain tire.
Until you explain how Spain win the world cup with way less goals scored among the 4 semi finalists, teams who played 8 games each, I no get talk with you.

Explain that and then maybe, we have a conversation.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 3:52pm On Sep 13
Altern8tor:
We had cucurella before,,now we don't,,so it's expected that our defense will be leaky without him
Was Cucurella not part of the defence that drink goals like water this past 2 seasons?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 3:53pm On Sep 13
AirBere:
You are the head of the agenda unit on nairaland. It was clear during the world cup.

For the emboldened, No. That's not how it works as everything isnt set in stone but I'll not elaborate because we'll end up running in circles.
Lool

It is well
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 3:54pm On Sep 13
Jamiuokolaa:
Lool

It is well
grin grin grin
Yes ooo my brother!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 4:07pm On Sep 13
Spain had the strongest Midfield, they didn't even allow their opponent to make a single shot on target in the final
timbros:
Until you explain how Spain win the world cup with way less goals scored among the 4 semi finalists, teams who played 8 games each, I no get talk with you.

Explain that and then maybe, we have a conversation.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 4:10pm On Sep 13
AirBere:
grin grin grin
Yes ooo my brother!
The agenda was more of an "aura for aura" thing - You gimme one agenda Lamba, i reply you 10 fold grin.

Back to this midfield balance matter, me still dey find explanation why the attack dey thrive but na the defence dey suffer o.

Abi attack no need balance midfield again?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 4:11pm On Sep 13
Jamiuokolaa:
The agenda was more of an "aura for aura" thing - You gimme one agenda Lamba, i reply you 10 fold grin.

Back to this midfield balance matter, me still dey find explanation why the attack dey thrive but na the defence dey suffer o
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 4:16pm On Sep 13
Jamiuokolaa:
The agenda was more of an "aura for aura" thing - You gimme one agenda Lamba, i reply you 10 fold grin.

Back to this midfield balance matter, me still dey find explanation why the attack dey thrive but na the defence dey suffer o.

Abi attack no need balance midfield again?
grin grin grin
Na why I like you nah lol. You sabi push am well. But airbere sef love agenda and will always match or surpass ur agenda 😉


Meanwhile, on the midfield matter, I'll elaborate when I feel like because I know say na real circle we go run. You won't agree with me and I'll never agree with you. So no energy to type plenty now. Today I want enjoy Manchester Derby.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Roland17(m): 4:17pm On Sep 13
If you misconstrue this post to mean I don’t believe your midfield and defense have serious issues, then I am not sorry for your inability to comprehend.

Chelsea have an obvious problem with their defense and midfield, however, while your attack is ok, they contribute massively to some of the undeserved pressure you guys suffer in the middle and back. You are playing a front 3 not a front 2 or lone striker, that means you have the numbers to actually press from the top. If your attackers, all 3 force the press, opponents will have no choice but to “bude” the ball into your half and you will win possession back immediately to restart the attack.

Palmer, Alajo and Pedro are lazy players; they don’t press from the top. They essentially watch opposing defenders build from the back with no resistance from your attacking players. You’d observe that opponents find their way into your middle and backline with ease after stringing passes between their defenders. The goalkeepers are not kicking the ball from their box into your half, they are passing their way from the back into your half.

Last week, Rice on several occasions after we strung passes at the back without any pressure just decided to stroll from our defense, through your non-existent middle and was immediately in attacking zones. Yes, your attack is good but in today’s football, especially if the coach is expecting a press, then the effort to win the ball needs to start from the top.

Teams are approaching Chelsea with so much comfort and assurance that they can actually build from back because non of your attacker will press them or attempt to stop them from the top. If your front three are not pressing hard enough then it complicates an obvious problem with your midfield and attack.

When your attackers lose the ball, they are annoyingly lazy in their efforts to win the ball back. There is so much indiscipline particularly positional indiscipline with Chelsea and that is a coaching issue than player issue but it can also be laziness from the players.

Watch opponents when they hold the ball against Chelsea, they easily build triangles without stretching the triangles. Some teams like Arsenal go as far as building possession squares with Chelsea players chasing the ball.

Again, I have never said your attack in comparison to your midfield and defense is the problem; however, they can help.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 4:23pm On Sep 13
Roland17:
If you misconstrue this post to mean I don’t believe your midfield and defense have serious issues, then I am not sorry for your inability to comprehend.

Chelsea have an obvious problem with their defense and midfield, however, while your attack is ok, they contribute massively to some of the undeserved pressure you guys suffer in the middle and back. You are playing a front 3 not a front 2 or lone striker, that means you have the numbers to actually press from the top. If your attackers, all 3 force the press, opponents will have no choice but to “bude” the ball into your half and you will win possession back immediately to restart the attack.

Palmer, Alajo and Pedro are lazy players; they don’t press from the top. They essentially watch opposing defenders build from the back with no resistance from your attacking players. You’d observe that opponents find their way into your middle and backline with ease after stringing passes between their defenders. The goalkeepers are not kicking the ball from their box into your half, they are passing their way from the back into your half.

Last week, Rice on several occasions after we strung passes at the back without any pressure just decided to stroll from our defense, through your non-existent middle and was immediately in attacking zones. Yes, your attack is good but in today’s football, especially if the coach is expecting a press, then the effort to win the ball needs to start from the top.

Teams are approaching Chelsea with so much comfort and assurance that they can actually build from back because non of your attacker will press them or attempt to stop them from the top. If your front three are not pressing hard enough then it complicates an obvious problem with your midfield and attack.

When your attackers lose the ball, they are annoyingly lazy in their efforts to win the ball back. There is so much indiscipline particularly positional indiscipline with Chelsea and that is a coaching issue than player issue but it can also be laziness from the players.

Watch opponents when they hold the ball against Chelsea, they easily build triangles without stretching the triangles. Some teams like Arsenal go as far as building possession squares with Chelsea players chasing the ball.

Again, I have never said your attack in comparison to your midfield and defense is the problem; however, they can help.
Not a bad piece 👍
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 4:39pm On Sep 13
See both man u and man city maintaining the same centre back pairing as last match. I don't know where our own manager gets his own idea from.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 4:41pm On Sep 13
Sportsweb:
Spain had the strongest Midfield, they didn't even allow their opponent to make a single shot on target in the final
In nutshell, they restricted opponents from scoring them, thereby conceding less... Right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 4:43pm On Sep 13
rooftops:
See both man u and man city maintaining the same centre back pairing as last match .I don't know where our own manager gets his own idea from
BlueCo.....minutes must be shared!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 4:44pm On Sep 13
See as Guehi kick Dorgu and the ball..our own defenders na to escort till dem cross
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:54pm On Sep 13
Werey Foden
Omo eran
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 4:55pm On Sep 13
Can't they look at Bruno's kick also? Is that not worthy of a red card also?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by fredoooooo: 4:56pm On Sep 13
Man u na ojoro united ..
Bruno kick first thats good .. but reaction is not ..c"mon grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 4:57pm On Sep 13
AirBere:
BlueCo.....minutes must be shared!
I thought we left that rubbish last season?

Why will xabi accept such rubbish?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 4:57pm On Sep 13
Maresca don carry him indiscipline reach man u

Paste the bald snake for me jor
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 4:59pm On Sep 13
Yep. Flog Maresca for me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:00pm On Sep 13
drisham:
Maresca don carry him indiscipline reach man u

Paste the bald snake for me jor
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Shegzdave: 5:01pm On Sep 13
popizaino:
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Joy go wan injure you grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bluelines69: 5:02pm On Sep 13
rooftops:
Can't they look at Bruno's kick also? Is that not worthy of a red card also?
In such cases it’s the reaction that’ll get penalized, Foden fell for it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:03pm On Sep 13
Bruno Fernandez ball dey always sweet my body.😍😍😍

Just look at attempted pass on the 31st minute.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolaa: 5:03pm On Sep 13
Maresca and red card

Hehe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:03pm On Sep 13
This useless man
Michael Oliver always at the centre of attraction
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:04pm On Sep 13
Jamiuokolaa:
Maresca and red card

Hehe
Jeki bolu o pari first.

Let the game end now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by StarchAndBanga: 5:06pm On Sep 13
Bluelines69:
In such cases it’s the reaction that’ll get penalized, Foden fell for it
Be defending English referees incompetence

Foden gets red for his reaction but Bruno that clearly kicked him initially doesn't even get ordinary yellow ba.. Bruno's kick is part of football

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bluelines69: 5:09pm On Sep 13
Wonder why our players didn’t try to influence the ref yesterday to check for that dying minutes PK, our team is just too nice Bruno yesterday would have been in the ref ears to look at that
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