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Habibiie:
Good day all.

I read something on of the the threads about validity of test result. What i understood was if you receive ITA before the test expires, you are okay and can still apply, so i'd like to know if that's still the case.

As my celpip will expire in mid octobre and the next available date is in novembre.

Please advise

Hadassah07:
Good day, everyone.

My husband is the principal applicant for our Express Entry application, and we need some advice regarding his employment reference/experience letter.
He had a continuous 3 yrs working experience in a company, a month after the 3yrs, he had an admission for one year professional course, so he had to resign to pursue the course. After he resigned, his direct supervisor who was the zonal manager also resigned after few months.

He is currently employed now with the same company where he gained the work experience we intend to claim but his colleague then, is now the direct supervisor as zonal manager to him now.

The challenge is that requesting a reference letter directly from HR may raise suspicion about his intention to leave the company, and we are concerned that this could create unnecessary difficulty.

my question is;

In respect of his previous and current working experience, can the reference letter be issued and signed by his current zonal manager since the current zonal manager directly oversees his work and is also familiar with the previous and current employment duties, responsibilities, employment period and working conditions instead of HR?

If so, would IRCC accept it provided that the letter contains all the required information, such as his job title, employment dates, hours of work, salary, duties and the manager's contact details?

Also, what additional documents would you recommend we provide to support the work experience, especially if the company does not have a policy of issuing detailed reference letters through HR?

Thank you very much for your advice.

Imalwayshorny:
ARE you in Canada now

Hadassah07:
Good day, everyone.

My husband is the principal applicant for our Express Entry application, and we need some advice regarding his employment reference/experience letter.
He had a continuous 3 yrs working experience in a company, a month after the 3yrs, he had an admission for one year professional course, so he had to resign to pursue the course. After he resigned, his direct supervisor who was the zonal manager also resigned after few months.

He is currently employed now with the same company where he gained the work experience we intend to claim but his colleague then, is now the direct supervisor as zonal manager to him now.

The challenge is that requesting a reference letter directly from HR may raise suspicion about his intention to leave the company, and we are concerned that this could create unnecessary difficulty.

my question is;

In respect of his previous and current working experience, can the reference letter be issued and signed by his current zonal manager since the current zonal manager directly oversees his work and is also familiar with the previous and current employment duties, responsibilities, employment period and working conditions instead of HR?

If so, would IRCC accept it provided that the letter contains all the required information, such as his job title, employment dates, hours of work, salary, duties and the manager's contact details?

Also, what additional documents would you recommend we provide to support the work experience, especially if the company does not have a policy of issuing detailed reference letters through HR?

Thank you very much for your advice.

stanjohn57:
Please assist analyse this somewhat complicated situation and give your best scenario advise towards PR. Reading through previous responses shows they are far more concise and direct than Ai/online searches.

Intended primary applicant =
38 years, Lawyer with 14 years experience. Worked with a Law Firm for about 10 years but no payment trail as salary and other commission entitlements were either paid cash or through personal account of Principal partner. This small, reputable firm is ever willing to provide reference/attestation/documents to back the job, including court case files bearing names.

Registered and Started own Law Firm past 4 years, representing clients and other law firms; has bank account in the firm's name but no strong financial flow as payments were still either going through personal accounts or cash, until months back. However, some payments do pass through the Firm's account. Has never gotten Tax Clearance Certificate, but is planning on getting one soon. They can get attestation from 5 or more Clients and Law Firms who they have worked for, with evidence of Case representations.

Got on the PR planning recently and started Early Childhood Teaching months back. Completed PGDE and TRCN, currently working and receiving Teachers Salary for the past months, prior to the Certifications. Practicing as a freelance/self-employed Lawyer while also teaching in a school.

Has LLM Assessment, taken CELPIP and averaged 11. Completed French class with AF attestation, hoping on B2 TCF minimum competence soon.
No profiles created yet, but the intention is to present both as a lawyer and a teacher.

Spouse has M.Sc, CELPIP 9 average, age is 39 years, 14 years works experience with multinationals very well documented.
They have an expired EE profile of 2019/2020 and a previous denied Study Permit profile, all aligning with same profile as at then.

The challenge is how to PROVE acceptable/paid work experience for primary applicant in light of recent developments and heavy scrutiny after ITA? Since there wasn't strong, consistent financial payments in the past.

Ghaliz:
In less than a fortnight inshallah.

Anobody:
Please what documents are you prioritising for POE checks🙏🙏

Ghaliz:
The COPR, I generated and printed another bank statement alongside the previous bank statement I used for my application, maybe I'm extra I'm also going with all the supporting documents I submitted during the said application plus I haven't stopped practising my French. As you may well tell I'm spiralling.

stanjohn57:
Please assist analyse this somewhat complicated situation and give your best scenario advise towards PR. Reading through previous responses shows they are far more concise and direct than Ai/online searches.

Intended primary applicant =
38 years, Lawyer with 14 years experience. Worked with a Law Firm for about 10 years but no payment trail as salary and other commission entitlements were either paid cash or through personal account of Principal partner. This small, reputable firm is ever willing to provide reference/attestation/documents to back the job, including court case files bearing names.

Registered and Started own Law Firm past 4 years, representing clients and other law firms; has bank account in the firm's name but no strong financial flow as payments were still either going through personal accounts or cash, until months back. However, some payments do pass through the Firm's account. Has never gotten Tax Clearance Certificate, but is planning on getting one soon. They can get attestation from 5 or more Clients and Law Firms who they have worked for, with evidence of Case representations.

Got on the PR planning recently and started Early Childhood Teaching months back. Completed PGDE and TRCN, currently working and receiving Teachers Salary for the past months, prior to the Certifications. Practicing as a freelance/self-employed Lawyer while also teaching in a school.

Has LLM Assessment, taken CELPIP and averaged 11. Completed French class with AF attestation, hoping on B2 TCF minimum competence soon.
No profiles created yet, but the intention is to present both as a lawyer and a teacher.

Spouse has M.Sc, CELPIP 9 average, age is 39 years, 14 years works experience with multinationals very well documented.
They have an expired EE profile of 2019/2020 and a previous denied Study Permit profile, all aligning with same profile as at then.

The challenge is how to PROVE acceptable/paid work experience for primary applicant in light of recent developments and heavy scrutiny after ITA? Since there wasn't strong, consistent financial payments in the past.

Ghaliz:
The COPR, I generated and printed another bank statement alongside the previous bank statement I used for my application, maybe I'm extra I'm also going with all the supporting documents I submitted during the said application plus I haven't stopped practising my French. As you may well tell I'm spiralling.

chimzyblack:
The POF stayed in my account for only 2 days before I printed my statement of account. Even though my Complete PR application was submitted 23 days later.
The thing with gift deed is not about how long the money stayed in your account,but proving that the funds is not an arrangement fund. That is why there is need for it to come from a blood relative and not using a recently opened account because it might raise suspicion.

donpata:
Pls help me understand this gift deed thing. At the point of opening an EE profile, I have to state the amount available to me. Does that mean that any arrangement for gift deed has to come before I create the profile? Or is it possible to drop lump sum gift deed after receiving ITA?

felzokugo:
Good day nairalanders.
This is a very good work done by the man who's posted this. God bless him abundantly.
I am new here and I missed out on the part 1.
However I know some of us are well vast on topics concerning traveling abroad.
I need guidance on how to secure sponsored jobs.
I beleive someone here will be able to help me cos I am a novice in this.
God bless you all.

felzokugo:
Good day nairalanders.
This is a very good work done by the man who's posted this. God bless him abundantly.
I am new here and I missed out on the part 1.
However I know some of us are well vast on topics concerning traveling abroad.
I need guidance on how to secure sponsored jobs.
I beleive someone here will be able to help me cos I am a novice in this.
God bless you all.

Imalwayshorny:
No, you do not need to have the gift deed or the lump sum in your account at the exact moment you create your Express Entry profile. However, you must have the funds and all supporting legal documentation fully ready before you submit your final electronic Application for Permanent Residence after receiving an Invitation to Apply

JohnnyPalmer:
Greetings everyone. Please I have a question regarding Proof of Funds. If my POF donor is transferring money from his dollar account to his naira account before sending it to me, does he need to submit the 6 months bank statement for BOTH accounts? That is, the statement of the dollar account he transferred from, as well as the statement of the naira account from which he sent the money to me?

relocationhub:
If the settlement funds were transferred to you by a donor, the safest approach is to document the complete financial trail. That means being able to explain where the money came from, how it moved from the donor to you, and why the money is now legally available for you to use.

For an Express Entry application, I would prepare the following where applicable:

- Your own bank statements/account history showing receipt of the funds.
- The donor's relevant bank statements or other financial records showing the source and transfer of the money.
- If the donor converted USD to naira before transferring the money, keep the relevant foreign-exchange transaction/debit and credit records showing the conversion.
- Evidence of the transfer from the donor to your account.
- A signed gift declaration/letter clearly stating that the money is an unconditional gift, the amount gifted, that there is no obligation to repay it, and the donor's relationship and contact information.
- Evidence supporting the donor's identity and, where relevant, the donor's relationship to you.

One important distinction: IRCC's Express Entry requirements do not say that you must submit six months of statements for both the donor's USD account and naira account. The official requirement is that your financial institution provide a letter containing, among other things, the account's average balance for the past six months, together with your current balance and other account information. Additional statements and documents can be useful where they help explain the source and movement of a large transfer.

Also, there is no official Express Entry rule I can find saying that a gift must be notarized, or that gifts from parents/siblings are automatically treated more favourably than gifts from friends. I would therefore avoid presenting either as an IRCC requirement.

What is clear from IRCC is that the settlement funds must be legally accessible to you, and you cannot borrow the money from another person. The funds must also remain available when you apply and when IRCC issues the permanent resident visa, if the application is approved.

So the key issue isn't simply whether the money was recently deposited. The stronger question is whether you can clearly demonstrate ownership/access, source and movement of the funds if an officer needs clarification.

One more point: the applicable proof-of-funds requirement depends on the immigration program. Under Express Entry, proof of funds is required for the Federal Skilled Worker Program and Federal Skilled Trades Program, subject to the stated exemptions. Canadian Experience Class applicants don't have to show settlement funds.

As of the current IRCC page, the Express Entry minimum for one family member is CAD 15,263. The amount increases according to family size and is updated periodically by IRCC.

If you tell us (1) the program you're applying under and (2) your relationship to the donor, the documentation can be discussed more precisely.

This is general information, not legal advice. For a case involving unusual transactions or a complicated source of funds, verify the requirements against your personalized IRCC document checklist or obtain advice from an authorized Canadian immigration professional.

donpata:
Ok. Thanks for your reply. But won't a lump sum deposit after ITA be a red flag? Also, is there any way around using a property sale as source of pof after ITA is given

donpata:
Pls help me understand this gift deed thing. At the point of opening an EE profile, I have to state the amount available to me. Does that mean that any arrangement for gift deed has to come before I create the profile? Or is it possible to drop lump sum gift deed after receiving ITA?

Foramoment:
Hi all,
I am new here and would need help to some questions. Please I want to start my express entry application. I have done my ECA and my language test. I am a registered nurse with one yr internship full time paid with statements to show and 1 year nysc worked at a pry health care center just paid allawee for this. Can I use my nysc as work experience?

Foramoment:
Thank you

Please during the course of my application i saw these question could someone help me on how to answer apprpriately. I only did ECA evaluation, and my language test so far

Foramoment:
Thank you

Please during the course of my application i saw these question could someone help me on how to answer apprpriately. I only did ECA evaluation, and my language test so far

relocationhub:
Let me clarify a few points from the earlier replies, because the NYSC question cannot safely be answered with a simple "yes" or "no."

1. NYSC as work experience

For the Federal Skilled Worker Program, IRCC requires qualifying work experience to meet specific conditions, including:

- TEER 0, 1, 2 or 3;
- paid work (wages or commission);
- the applicable duration and hours requirements; and
- duties that correspond to the NOC being claimed, including its lead statement and most of its main duties.

"IRCC — Federal Skilled Worker Program" (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/who-can-apply/federal-skilled-workers.html?)

So I would not tell you that your NYSC year automatically counts, or cannot count either.

You mentioned receiving an NYSC allowance and working at a primary healthcare centre. Those facts alone are not enough to establish whether the experience meets the applicable IRCC requirements.

The useful way to assess it is to take your actual NYSC role and check four things:

Payment: What was the nature of the payment and how was it documented?

NOC: Which NOC are you claiming, and does your actual work correspond to its lead statement and most of its main duties?

Hours/duration: Does the experience satisfy the applicable hours and duration requirements?

Evidence: Can your documents establish the position, dates, hours, duties and payment?

Your one-year paid nursing internship should be assessed separately using the same criteria. Don't assume that the internship and NYSC can simply be combined.

The important distinction is between "I performed work during NYSC" and "this particular period meets IRCC's requirements for the work experience I am claiming." Only the latter is relevant to the immigration calculation.

2. Your ECA is not a work-experience assessment

An ECA establishes the Canadian equivalency of a foreign educational credential for the purposes specified by IRCC. It does not, by itself, establish that your work experience has been recognized.

IRCC also makes clear that an ECA does not provide professional licensing.

"IRCC — Educational Credential Assessment" (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/documents/education-assessment.html?)

So if the survey asks whether your education and work experience have been checked or accepted, don't treat your ECA as evidence that both have been assessed. Read the exact question and answer according to what you have actually done.

3. Nursing is regulated

Nursing is a regulated profession in Canada. Immigration eligibility and authorization to practise are separate issues.

If you intend to practise nursing in Canada, you will need to satisfy the requirements of the applicable provincial or territorial regulatory authority.

4. How I would answer the survey

Because this is a research survey, answer based on your actual circumstances, not on what you think is the "better" answer.

- Have you searched for a Canadian nursing job? Answer according to what you have actually done.
- Have your education and work experience been checked? An ECA addresses the education component; it does not by itself establish recognition of your work experience.
- Is nursing regulated? Yes, nursing is a regulated profession in Canada.

The research survey should also be kept separate from your actual Express Entry application. Its answers do not determine your CRS score or establish whether you qualify.

5. If you want to check the NYSC issue yourself

You can do the assessment yourself using the official IRCC requirements and the relevant NOC information.

Write down your payment arrangement, dates, hours and actual duties, then compare the duties with the NOC you intend to claim and identify the documents supporting each point.

I have also built an NYSC-IRCC Audit Engine for this particular type of assessment. It does not determine whether an NYSC year qualifies and it is not an IRCC tool.

It simply structures the same fact-checking process so that gaps or points requiring verification are easier to identify.

You can find it by searching for NYSC-IRCC Audit Engine on Substack (under the recent tab).

If something remains genuinely uncertain after checking the IRCC requirements and your documentation, particularly the payment arrangement or NOC/duty match—that is the point at which professional advice from an Canadian immigration professional may be useful.

The safest approach is to start with the documented facts, test them against the applicable IRCC requirements, and avoid claiming an outcome that only IRCC can ultimately determine.

Foramoment:
Thank you for your elaborate answers to my questions. I truly appreciate this.

For the survey, there’s an option to decline to not answer the questions. As I am not sure on what to answer as it’s only ECA I have done no work exprience evaluations, etc, Is it safe to say No to not answering the survey questions?

Thank you