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Democracy doesn't work that way.

The only people that have kept Igbos from being President are Igbos themselves.

Prior to Buhari or Yar'adua becoming President, I never heard anyone demanding that their tribe must take over power.

TopBanter:
Well-said. Obi is nothing but a desperate Igbo Presidency project. Inpsect him critically for political leadership capacity and you will find he is empty.
Drove past Eko Atlantic two days ago and was shaking my head in awe at what Tinubu has pulled off with Orca mall at the front which is arguably the biggest supermarket and lifestyle mall in Africa.
This is one of too many spectacular legacy projects ,to include LFTZ etal,PBAT delivered. Obi has none and is about talking loquaciously and emptily up and down.
No practical adult that means well for Nigeria will ever consider Obi in place of PBAT.

Biggest mall in a country that Tinubu and APC have dragged down to 4th place from the top position we were under PDP deregulation and privatisation policies?

Biggest mall in glorified ghetto Lagos, where people are drinking water from shitty boreholes despite 100 times growth in state budget to N4.2 trillion in 27 years?

How is this mall relevant in a state where less than 5% of schools are owned by government run by progressive politicians since 1999?

Do you know what Stockholm Syndrome means



https://www.nairaland.com/post/125340351

dequir:
Just to remind you.

You forgot to mention that Ijaw man, Goodluck, who ruled 6 years. He is worthy of remembrance too.

Yeah , Jonathan, Ijaw man

Let me tell you a short story about one big man from my own local government
He is now an APC chieftain in my state

This man has lots of experience in politics but he has always been a failure despite doing a lot
Why?
First thing na him pride,
He never wanted to be deputy governor first but to be governor at all cost
But he didn't know how to play the game, he was always relying on public empathy and all
He doesn't know that governorship is not won in the street, most especially primaries
Each time he found himself in a ruling party, he run away to be opposition after failing primaries in the ruling party
He was at a point offered a deputy governor ticket but he refused saying he's bigger than that and that deputy is figure head

This man has ran away round across almost all top parties in the state
And even ran back to the ruling party now

Guess what, the current governor of the state is from this very same man local government
Mind you the current governor was just previously a deputy governor to the previous governor that died on the seat of power

Now that man now needs to obey and honor a once a junior politician like him that's now governor

The lesson is simple
Don't think any position is too small for you
Take every opportunity, no one knows tomorrow

If Obi cannot contest in a major political party primary and ran away to be nominated as NDC candidate

How can he even win the general election

Even Trump went for primary

Obasanjo did primary, good luck did primary, yar' adua did and even Buhari and Tinubu as well

Only God knows what is wrong with obedients and their Obi

I just don't understand which kind of democracy they seem to be practicing

emkz:
The way the southeast voted in 2023 sent a clear message to the other regions that Obi was an Igbo project. That is the easiest way to undersell him.

Tinubu will likely lose Lagos again in addition to losing the Presidency this time. Also, this time Peter Obi will get more votes in the SW compared to 2023.

Even if you shout tribe tribe tribe to the sky and back, it won’t change the minds of people in the SW who didn’t vote Tinubu in 2023. People know between PO and Tinubu who will deliver dividends better to them.

Only people like you with strong tribal loyalty regardless of competence will vote for Tinubu.

Vdm Just Echoed My Mind.
Vote Obi/ Kwankwaso

Just mention Igbo presidency and you go get engagement for social media.

Easy way to catch out.

Definitely! It’s all about solidifying the narrative for the upcoming election.

Technical Writer

I am not one of his followers. But on this point he made a lot of sense. Tinubu performed badly. No sentiments. Results are out there. Unbiased legislative should have impeached him before now. Unfortunately this is Nigeria.

anonimi:
Biggest mall in a country that Tinubu and APC have dragged down to 4th place from the top position we were under PDP deregulation and privatisation policies?

Biggest mall in glorified ghetto Lagos, where people are drinking water from shitty boreholes despite 100 times growth in state budget to N4.2 trillion in 27 years?

How is this mall relevant in a state where less than 5% of schools are owned by government run by progressive politicians since 1999?

Do you know what Stockholm Syndrome means



https://www.nairaland.com/post/125340351

You are so predictable. Obvious your ilk will try and attack what you believe favours the rich to the detriment of the poor .

Please, who is NELFUND for? Tinubu ranks amongst the President who has built most low cost home for Nigerians.

The biggest healthcare transformation, since 1999, is ongoing under Tinubu.Bruv, drop the hate for Tinubu and obsession with portraying him in a negative light. It is eating you alive.

Focus on the facts. Tinubu is spectaculair and catering well for all Nigerians at all levels of society.

If you want me to show a lot more Tinubu is doing for ordinary Nigerians I can. Just that we'd be here for days. When you deny the truth about others that is unfiltered hatred which is never good for anyone.

RollinTNDA:
Ibos should wait 12 years
Be patient .. No need to Rush

All igbos need to do is find a northerner that has you people interest and support the person

Let Northerners take back Power 2027
And correct the damages APC has made

I will advise Peter Obi to support Atiku
Atiku vice is from ibo

Peter Obi need to understand that he alone cannot win this current APC

Ibo should be patient, give it 10 years max you go reach Aso rock
For now we have to take back out country from APC

Together let's support Atiku


But the northerner must not be from APC

40 years una no go b anything

What u lots don't understand is that there's a sharp difference between playing politics n playing hate

U ain't playing politics but hating on the yorubas, even south south people have moved on n they are now actively in power.

As it stands now, either atiku or obi can't stop Tinubu presidency in 2027, we already know our allies.

So in 2031 we will support a northerner to get power n get a south south person as vp.

Hope u dey follow me baa?


After that, then we will support a south south person as president n northerner as vice.


U will then understand the difference between politics n hate

greatiyk4u:
You work for it by using thugs to snatch and run away with the mandate in collaboration with INEC enable glitch rhetoric

It is never a village appointment
So nobody is giving anybody, let everybody go and do their work.

givedemwotowoto:
Tinubu will likely lose Lagos again in addition to losing the Presidency this time. Also, this time Peter Obi will get more votes in the SW compared to 2023.

Even if you shout tribe tribe tribe to the sky and back, it won’t change the minds of people in the SW who didn’t vote Tinubu in 2023. People know between PO and Tinubu who will deliver dividends better to them.

Only people like you with strong tribal loyalty regardless of competence will vote for Tinubu.

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orikoku:
we will see who be muumu. Sha no change your Monica by then. Learn to respect people online.

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NwOSU, you go still come here come cry……leave Cho Cho Cho and put your money where your mouth is since you confident obi will win Abi you Dey fear??🤣🤣🤣🤣 Una talk pass this in 2023 but your agulu package fraud still end up a distant third…..btw tell us, where will obi vote be coming from aside from his 5 plot region? Una go learn the hard way😂😂😂

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They go start to misbehave

yemmight:
This one self don go collect from Obi.

Are you that dull to the extent that you think endorsements for Peter Obi goes with financial inducement?

PDPdestroyer:
I disagree, it’s time for Ibibio or Anang presidency in 2027

Yes I agree
The presidency seat is not only for hausa igbo and yoruba.
Edo, ibibio, akwa ibom, too should find their way to that seat too

BATified2023:
40 years una no go b anything

What u lots don't understand is that there's a sharp difference between playing politics n playing hate

U ain't playing politics but hating on the yorubas, even south south people have moved on n they are now actively in power.

As it stands now, either atiku or obi can't stop Tinubu presidency in 2027, we already know our allies.

So in 2031 we will support a northerner to get power n get a south south person as vp.

Hope u dey follow me baa?


After that, then we will support a south south person as president n northerner as vice.


U will then understand the difference between politics n hate

Absolutely. The truth is that the North does not want soured relationship with the SW via an Atiku Presidency which is betrayal of the SW that moved impeccably to ensure North gained end enjoyed 8 years in Aso Rock via Buhari.

They know also that Yorubas are not empty noisemakers like some. If Yorubas turn their back on you then that is it because they have real and definitive influence and power in Nigeria.

If Yorubas are completely disillusioned with Nigeria and want out, then Nigeria is done. Unlike some who are unserious and have made empty noise for decades.

North can never risk that. They need 'one Nigeria' and unity with others, especially Yorubas, most. Never the other way round. They will deliver for Tinubu. No need to say more.

emkz:
Now, the person they are promoting as the Igbo candidate in 2027 may have set Igbos quest for national politics by several years. Obi won Lagos in 2023 and Atiku won Osun in 2023 (Tinubu's zone). Tinubu won Borno in 2023 (Atiku's zone). No politician got 25% in Obi's zone. So Obi can win other zones, but other candidates cannot perform well in his zone?

The way the southeast voted in 2023 sent a clear message to the other regions that Obi was an Igbo project. That is the easiest way to undersell him.

There is something you are failing to understand. It all depends on the quality of the candidate. If you bring in a very qualified candidate from the south west, that candidate will win 99% of south west votes. If you bring a very qualified candidate from the north, the candidate will win 99% of the northern votes. The same thing will also happen in the south east. The reason Peter Obi won a high number of south east votes is because he is truly the best among the available choice. If you replace Peter Obi with let me say Orji Uzor Kalu it will be a totally different story. Orji Uzor wouldn't be able to get 70% of south eastern votes. If there are better candidates from the west or north they will easily win some south east states. So it all depends on the quality of the candidates from each region.

And very important part of your detailed post -

How did Tinubu integrate with Atiku, Ribadu and Buhari? It wasn't by public displays of eating tuwo shinkafa or dancing with almajiri.

He sat down with those that mattered and did negotiations behind the scenes.

Unlike the displays of Obi that earn valueless online votes and nothing on ground.

emkz:
Igbo presidency is a misnomer. Just as there is no Yoruba presidency or Hausa presidency or Kanuri presidency, the argument for Igbo presidency does not make sense.

You are Nigerian president and not president of any ethnic group.

Now, the person they are promoting as the Igbo candidate in 2027 may have set Igbos quest for national politics by several years. Obi won Lagos in 2023 and Atiku won Osun in 2023 (Tinubu's zone). Tinubu won Borno in 2023 (Atiku's zone). No politician got 25% in Obi's zone. So Obi can win other zones, but other candidates cannot perform well in his zone?

The way the southeast voted in 2023 sent a clear message to the other regions that Obi was an Igbo project. That is the easiest way to undersell him.

Any Igbo man who wants to play national politics must first integrate nationally. Tinubu did that with Atiku (2007), Ribadu (2011) and Buhari (2015). How has Obi integrated himself? Is it by building boreholes? Is it by eating Iftar during Ramadan? Is it by paying condolences? Is it by saying things that he has no plans?

Let us remove Nigeria for the moment. If there is a hypothetical Igbo nation, will Igbos allow Obi lead it?

In 2027, Obi would likely go for a second term if he wins. No one believes his only one-term tale. If Atiku wins in 2027, he would disrupt the ambitions of his compatriots in the north who may want to run in 2031. So many politicians may prefer Tinubu as he is sure to complete his tenure in 2031. Nigerians see that the opposition has no alternatives. Atiku who was overpromising suddenly stopped, When Charles Aniagolu asked Kenneth Okonkwo how Atiku's subsidy would be implemented, Kenneth Okonkwo said since subsidy was removed without a plan, subsidy would be brought back without a plan. Kenneth Okonkwo wanted to be Atiku's running mate o.

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OmoOshodi:
my guess is some people are allowed to bully others.. something like VIP membership things

Exactly 💯 which is wrong.

ba2remagaji:
This very dark man na confirm 419er

Absolutely. A glorified p0rn star now posing as a good governance activist. Anyone who has engaged in porn is morally dubious.

Nigerians are easy to con sha because most are politically unsophisticated in comparison to others worldwide to include even our neighbours from Togo, Benin republic, CIV, Ghana etal.

It is the turn of the South not Igbos. Rotation is between North and South. When it is the turn of the North, the South has no right to vehemently insist which region of the North produce the President. It is an internal affair of Northerners only.

If Igbos want to blackmail and insult others always to then insist they must be President, when it is the turn of the South per rotation between North and South, they will Jones forever.

After Tinubu leaves in 2031 a Northerner will take charge. In 2039, A South-South President will emerge because they are already laying the groundwork for that today playing politics of civility and bridges building, with all SS Governors now with Tinubu in APC, while the SE lot keep up politics of toxicity and hate, especially against the Yorubas, which is the only type they know to play.

What sort of lies are these?

Peter Obi won because he was the best from the zone? Those Anambrans insulting him in Nairaland a decade ago, where they aliens?

Nefort:
There is something you are failing to understand. It all depends on the quality of the candidate. If you bring in a very qualified candidate from the south west, that candidate will win 99% of south west votes. If you bring a very qualified candidate from the north, the candidate will win 99% of the northern votes. The same thing will also happen in the south east. The reason Peter Obi won a high number of south east votes is because he is truly the best among the available choice. If you replace Peter Obi with let me say Orji Uzor Kalu it will be a totally different story. Orji Uzor wouldn't be able to get 70% of south eastern votes. If there are better candidates from the west or north they will easily win some south east states. So it all depends on the quality of the candidates from each region.

streetsoldier1:
but the weyrey said he is not partisan..... i support igbo presidency too anyways, but not Obi, i will rather vote soludo for president than Obi

You are voting Soludo because he is attacking Peter Obi?

bayplus:
I may be wrong but i thought Nnamdi Azikwe was the first president of Nigeria ?

That aside. I do not have faith all the top contestants-from Tinubu, ti Atiku or Obi. The real criminals are the same evil political appointees and the civil servants who will help the politicians finish what is left of Nigeria.

No single leader can turn the fortunes of Nigeria around for the better alone.

The trouble with us is not so much with our leaders but the quality of the followers. Nigerians are complaining about their corrupt leaders but are many any better ?

When you have a society with 30million criminals and 300,000 police. What magic would you expect from the security agencies?

These criminals producing fake drugs. Fake wines. Meth. Canada loud. Kidnapping, banditry. Ritualists, those who stole $16billion dollars meant for power projects. Those collected bribe and stalled Mambila power etc are they ghosts? Do they not have families who encourage and sometimes assist them to commit crimes? We want to be like Dubai port we do not want to put in the works.

We play the Ostrich, calling on govt to solve all problems we are part of its creation. Those who vandalized street lights and manholes on third mainland bridge and 2nd Niger bridge may well be part of those who want to hang Tinubu for not replacing the street light.

Many who are complaining now are doing so because they are far away from the cooky jar, not because they have anything meaningful contributions to make

When we are ready to change for the better individually and collectively,

I get your drift

Many of us Nigerians are only against corruption when it doesn't favour us and truly the mindset of the average Nigerian needs to be reset

I was telling someone that Nigerians are one of the easiest people to govern

We are one of the most law abiding citizens if only we can enforce laws

Lemme give you an example

Lets say there is a law for example, that who ever is caught disobeying traffic light would be sent to prison for 6 months without the option of fine

To ensure compliance, the government should make an example of a maybe a house of rep member, the relative or someone who is highly placed in Nigeria, middle class person , taxi driver etc

They must ensure these people who used as an example must have different geographical spread ( so it doesn't feel like tribalism )

Publicise this court proceedings against these people and show that no matter who you are, you are not above the law. Then watch and see how law abiding people would be when it comes to obeying traffic light

The issue is the body languhage of the leader. When the leader shows he is willing to enforce laws even if if those affected are his people, then we would see changes

Agreed none of the leading contenders are saints but we want someone with integrity, accountability , strong hatred for wastage and above all having human sympathy

The change starts from one leader going against the run of play with the support of people who want sincere change

Every mindset can be changed with the right orientation

The only issue is that the country too hetergeneous

MartinCorridon:
What sort of lies are these?

Peter Obi won because he was the best from the zone? Those Anambrans insulting him in Nairaland a decade ago, where they aliens?

I never said Peter Obi ia the best from the zone. I only said he is the best among the other presidential candidates. Peter Obi is not perfect. He has his own issues. But compare Peter Obi's issues with Tinubu's issues and Atiku's issues and tell me which one is more manageable. Just be honest.

The people of Anambra may be insulting him but they still voted for him because he is the better available option. That doesn't mean the people of Anambra will give him a 100% score record.

emkz:
Igbo presidency is a misnomer. Just as there is no Yoruba presidency or Hausa presidency or Kanuri presidency, the argument for Igbo presidency does not make sense.

You are Nigerian president and not president of any ethnic group.

Now, the person they are promoting as the Igbo candidate in 2027 may have set Igbos quest for national politics by several years. Obi won Lagos in 2023 and Atiku won Osun in 2023 (Tinubu's zone). Tinubu won Borno in 2023 (Atiku's zone). No politician got 25% in Obi's zone. So Obi can win other zones, but other candidates cannot perform well in his zone?

The way the southeast voted in 2023 sent a clear message to the other regions that Obi was an Igbo project. That is the easiest way to undersell him.

Any Igbo man who wants to play national politics must first integrate nationally. Tinubu did that with Atiku (2007), Ribadu (2011) and Buhari (2015). How has Obi integrated himself? Is it by building boreholes? Is it by eating Iftar during Ramadan? Is it by paying condolences? Is it by saying things that he has no plans?

Let us remove Nigeria for the moment. If there is a hypothetical Igbo nation, will Igbos allow Obi lead it?

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All these tribal bigots.

Elections only happened in 2023?
Igbo people gave most of their votes in 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 to candidates from other region in Yoruba, north.

When have southwest and north given most of their votes to a presidential candidate from southeast?

Una dey always open mouth waaaa!!!!

When southeast gave majority of their votes to Obasanjo, was it seen as an Igbo project?
When southeast gave most of their votes to Yar Adua and Atiku, was it seen as an Igbo project?

Samuels90:
Just give Nigerians someone to do the right thing. Tired of all this tribal-regional way of choosing a leader in Nigeria

Thank you so much by thinking right. You are definitely on point. Everything has become tribal

This clown and clouth chasing. Attention-seeking clown.

IN 2039, let's hope there will be a right Igbo candidate.
For now, it's Tinubu till 2031.