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Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy:
seppuku:
Place 1 million Europeans in an African country with 35 million African women and most of them are likely to get mates there.

Your availability argument falls flat. Please don't let your dislike for Nigerians obscure your sound judgement.
Still crying over the obvious I see.. classic Seppuku.

My "availability argument" is common sense..
Don't hide behind "being disliked" because I didnt stroke your humongous ego

Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 7:30am On Oct 08
seppuku:
Fair enough, I trust those numbers by StatsSA too.
Yes, numbers of documented people.. your beloved StatsSA can't quantify numbers of illegals.. we've been through this like, a thousand times
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku:
IronGalaxy:
Yes, numbers of documented people.. your beloved StatsSA can't quantify numbers of illegals.. we've been through this like, a thousand times
The numbers in StatsSA makes room for undocumented people. Your government agencies keep numbers so much so that we can tell how many visitors exit and enter South AFrica but in the same breadth they are way off on illegal migrants.

PROPAGANDA!!!

https://southafricafacts.co.za/illegal-immigration-in-south-africa-where-things-stand-in-2026/

How many undocumented people are actually here
Estimates of South Africa's undocumented population have long been a political football, and the gap between the numbers thrown around at rallies and the numbers Statistics South Africa can actually defend is enormous. Stats SA's most recent survey puts the country's total immigrant population, documented and undocumented combined, at roughly 3.1 million people, or about 5.1% of the population.That is far below the 15 to 30 million figure that some anti-immigration campaigners have circulated. It is, however, somewhat above the global average of about 3.7% of the world's population living outside their country of birth.[2]

Refugees and asylum seekers make up a small slice of that. The country hosts around 75,000 recognised refugees and 165,000 asylum seekers, a number that peaked back in 2015 and has been declining since.[1] None of this means undocumented migration is not a real issue for the country's institutions. It means the scale is smaller, and the picture more complicated, than the loudest voices on either side suggest.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 3:07pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
You are literally a narrative that doesn't exist to sound deep.
Misdirection.

Defend the below:

Nigerians are not like us because they eat dogs. Inference, we are better than Nigerians.

We are not bothered by Chinese people despite the fact that they eat dogs too. Inference we are less that Chinese.

Conclusion- Self-hatred.

You cannot defend the indefensible. Concede.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 3:11pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
Still crying over the obvious I see.. classic Seppuku.

My "availability argument" is common sense..
Don't hide behind "being disliked" because I didnt stroke your humongous ego
Kindly post the source for that write up. I want to see something.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 4:56pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
The numbers in StatsSA makes room for undocumented people. Your government agencies keep numbers so much so that we can tell how many visitors exit and enter South AFrica but in the same breadth they are way off on illegal migrants.

PROPAGANDA!!!

https://southafricafacts.co.za/illegal-immigration-in-south-africa-where-things-stand-in-2026/

How many undocumented people are actually here
Estimates of South Africa's undocumented population have long been a political football, and the gap between the numbers thrown around at rallies and the numbers Statistics South Africa can actually defend is enormous. Stats SA's most recent survey puts the country's total immigrant population, documented and undocumented combined, at roughly 3.1 million people, or about 5.1% of the population.That is far below the 15 to 30 million figure that some anti-immigration campaigners have circulated. It is, however, somewhat above the global average of about 3.7% of the world's population living outside their country of birth.[2]

Refugees and asylum seekers make up a small slice of that. The country hosts around 75,000 recognised refugees and 165,000 asylum seekers, a number that peaked back in 2015 and has been declining since.[1] None of this means undocumented migration is not a real issue for the country's institutions. It means the scale is smaller, and the picture more complicated, than the loudest voices on either side suggest.
More of absolutely nothing
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 4:57pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
Kindly post the source for that write up. I want to see something.
Source for common logic? Hahaha
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:00pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
Misdirection.

Defend the below:

Nigerians are not like us because they eat dogs. Inference, we are better than Nigerians.

We are not bothered by Chinese people despite the fact that they eat dogs too. Inference we are less that Chinese.

Conclusion- Self-hatred.

You cannot defend the indefensible. Concede.
I literally said nothing about Chinese people, you did.. I didn't even compare the two..you did.. how you reach the conclusion of "self -hatred" that's your usual delulu..

I pointed out your dog eating as vile and nasty of which it is.. whether Chinese do the same, its irrevant to my point..
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 5:06pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
Source for common logic? Hahaha
As I said you have nothing to back up your "availability" claim.

We all know you don't like the fact that these ladies desire Nigerian men as husbands.

Please stick to your own ladies and stop hating on these very desirable Nigerian men.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM914Q1xSsg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po52qDymg2M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KHMr7nVCtQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJenW8w9hso
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:08pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
As I said you have nothing to back up your "availability" claim.

We all know you don't like the fact that these ladies desire Nigerian men as husbands.

Please stick to your own ladies and stop hating on these very desirable Nigerian men.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM914Q1xSsg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po52qDymg2M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KHMr7nVCtQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJenW8w9hso
You're showing me weddings my guy.. am I supposed to be impressed by this, or? Lol.. what does this even prove?
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 5:10pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
I literally said nothing about Chinese people, you did.. I didn't even compare the two..you did.. how you reach the conclusion of "self -hatred" that's your usual delulu..

I pointed out your dog eating as vile and nasty of which it is.. whether Chinese do the same, its irrevant to my point..
Drawing parallels exposes the conclusion of self-hatred.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 5:11pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
You're showing me weddings my guy.. am I supposed to be impressed by this, or? Lol.. what does this even prove?
It buttresses the desirability argument.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:14pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
Drawing parallels exposes the conclusion of self-hatred.
Lol, trying to sound deep again

Look, your "self hatred" argument would have flew if I saw noting when Chinese ate dogs but criticized Nigerians only..

As things stand, dog-eating is nasty regardless of who's doing it, whether Chinese, Koreans or Nigerians , same with open-defecation , whether its Indians or Nigerians its still nasty.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:16pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
It buttresses the desirability argument.
it butresses nothing.. look at African ballers that play in Europe, they mostly date or marry women from the countries they play in.. because of the dating pool available.. unless they specifically prefer their own back home..
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by seppuku: 5:17pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
Lol, trying to sound deep again

Look, your "self hatred" argument would have flew if I saw noting when Chinese ate dogs but criticized Nigerians only..

As things stand, dog-eating is nasty regardless of who's doing it, whether Chinese, Koreans or Nigerians , same with open-defecation , whether its Indians or Nigerians its still nasty.
Good. Tell your people ( advocate Ike Khumalo) to criticize it as loud as we see them they criticize that of Nigerians so we know you are fair and just in your complaints.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:21pm On Oct 08
seppuku:
Good. Tell your people ( advocate Ike Khumalo) to criticize it as loud as we see them they criticize that of Nigerians so we know you are fair and just in your complaints.
What are you even saying? You're all over the place
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 5:28pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
What are you even saying? You're all over the place
Do you think you are the only SA pushing the "Nigerians eat dog and ergo we are better than them" narrative?
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 5:30pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
it butresses nothing.. look at African ballers that play in Europe, they mostly date or marry women from the countries they play in.. because of the dating pool available.. unless they specifically prefer their own back home..
No no no, they marry these "type" of women to further elevate their social statuses in countries with such racial hierachical structures.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:33pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
Do you think you are the only SA pushing the "Nigerians eat dog and ergo we are better than them" narrative?
We are clearly not the same people, we are not conditioned the same, that's a fact you and I can't run away from.. you have your YouTubers expressing shock that South Africans can stand long hours on queues in an orderly manner.. that's just one example of the "great devide"
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:33pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
No no no, they marry these "type" of women to further elevate their social statuses in countries with such racial hierachical structures.
You still on this ? ..
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 5:38pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
We are clearly not the same people, we are not conditioned the same,
What are you basing this of off. Civility?


IronGalaxy:
you have your YouTubers expressing shock that South Africans can stand long hours on queues in an orderly manner.. that's just one example of the "great devide"
Nigerians stand in long lines as well at the airports on arrival, when boarding buses, at banks, etc.

You need to travel more.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:43pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
What are you basing this of off. Civility?




Nigerians stand in long lines as well at the airports on arrival, when boarding buses, at banks, etc.

You need to travel more.
its your people that express shock in some of the mundane things South Africans do, like not over-honking the car's hoot.. its like when they land in SA they discover civilization for the forst time.. so don't blame me

Here's one of your own YouTubers butreesing my point, he says you "thrive in chaos"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSW3VS7UE90&t=9s&pp=ygVCYmFudHUgZGlhcmllcyBibGFjayBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2FucyBoYXZlIG1vcmUgaW4gY29tbW9uIHdpdGggd2hpdGVz
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 5:48pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
its your people that express shock in some of the mundane things South Africans do, like not over-honking the car's hoot.. its like when they land in SA they discover civilization for the forst time.. so don't blame me

Here's one of your own YouTubers butreesing my point, he says you thrive in chaos

https://m.youtube.com/watch? v=XSW3VS7UE90&pp=ygVDYmFudHUgZGlhcmllcyBibGFjayBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2FucyBoYXZlIG1vcmUgaW4gY29tbW9uIHdpdGggd2hpdGVzIA%3D%3D
This is why when we drill down into these claims of yours they usually fall flat on their faces. You really need to stop spending a lot of your time on the internet and go see the real world for yourself.

India – Honking is extremely frequent and often expected. Drivers use it to signal lane changes, overtaking, or simply to make their presence known in chaotic traffic. Some trucks even display “Horn OK Please” to encourage it

Egypt – In cities like Cairo, honking is a “language” of its own: short beeps for presence, longer or repeated honks for urgency or frustration. It’s a primary tool for navigating dense, unpredictable traffic


Vietnam – In Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, honking is common due to heavy motorbike and scooter traffic. It’s used to alert others in narrow streets or when overtaking

Italy – While not as constant as in India, honking is used more often than in most European countries, often as a greeting, to signal “I’m here,” or to express frustration

Mexico – In some urban areas, honking is part of everyday road expression, used to request right of way or announce presence

Turkey – Honking is frequent, often to express impatience, greet other drivers, or warn of danger

Parts of North Africa – Beyond Egypt, in other North African countries, the horn is a continuous communication tool between drivers


Some Latin American countries – In certain regions, horns are used as social signals rather than aggression, and honking is more accepted in daily driving
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Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:52pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
This is why when we drill down into these claims of yours they usually fall flat on their faces. You really need to stop spending a lot of your time on the internet and go see the real world for yourself.

[b] India – Honking is extremely frequent and often expected. Drivers use it to signal lane changes, overtaking, or simply to make their presence known in chaotic traffic. Some trucks even display “Horn OK Please” to encourage it

Egypt – In cities like Cairo, honking is a “language” of its own: short beeps for presence, longer or repeated honks for urgency or frustration. It’s a primary tool for navigating dense, unpredictable traffic


Vietnam – In Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, honking is common due to heavy motorbike and scooter traffic. It’s used to alert others in narrow streets or when overtaking

Italy – While not as constant as in India, honking is used more often than in most European countries, often as a greeting, to signal “I’m here,” or to express frustration

Mexico – In some urban areas, honking is part of everyday road expression, used to request right of way or announce presence

Turkey – Honking is frequent, often to express impatience, greet other drivers, or warn of danger

Parts of North Africa – Beyond Egypt, in other North African countries, the horn is a continuous communication tool between drivers


Some Latin American countries – In certain regions, horns are used as social signals rather than aggression, and honking is more accepted in daily driving[/b]
You telling me such and such happens in another country means what exactly? You think i dont know?

You open defecate, India does too, so is Eritrea..
You eat dogs , and as you said the Chinese too and so forth ...I know all that, so it goes without saying
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 5:55pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
You telling me such and such happens in another country doesnt means what exactly? You think i dont know?

You open defecate, India does too, so is Eritrea..
You eat dogs , and as you said the Chinese too and so forth ...
So the conclusion is the rest of the world are not like you guys in most ways and therefore..........

other than the fact that you don't like Nigerians, your arguments are baseless my friend.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 5:58pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
So the conclusion is the rest of the world are not like you guys in most ways and therefore..........

other than the fact that you don't like Nigerians, your arguments are baseless my friend.
Hiding behind " we don't like Nigerians" wont work with me..

The video i attached is of a Nigerian, expressing the very same things Im saying.. so doesnt he like you too?
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 6:52pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
Hiding behind " we don't like Nigerians" wont work with me..

The video i attached is of a Nigerian, expressing the very same things Im saying.. so doesnt he like you too?
Excessive honking does not in anyway say anything about anything my dear SA brather nor does the fact that some people eat dogs or alligators for that matter

You and your cohorts are reaching for arbitrary things to "demonize" the other and further justify your propaganda.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by IronGalaxy: 7:30pm On Oct 08
Sepukku:
Excessive honking does not in anyway say anything about anything my dear SA brather nor does the fact that some people eat dogs or alligators for that matter

You and your cohorts are reaching for arbitrary things to "demonize" the other and further justify your propaganda.
You and us aren't the same, no demonization here, just facts..
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 7:36pm On Oct 08
IronGalaxy:
You and us aren't the same, no demonization here, just facts..
You and Chinese are not the same.

You and Indians are not the same.

Baseless arguments with a hidden agenda any grade 2 child could explain.

Keep the propaganda alive.
Re: Government Must Be Your Sugar Daddy, Malema Tells South Africans by Sepukku: 7:41pm On Oct 08
@irongalaxy, @Randdigital

See your people in action.

You are definitely a special civilized breed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbCoFXk5Pfk
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