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Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by anonimi: 10:20am On Oct 13
shortgun:
All these cut and join nonsense to place Peter obi in the same league with past criminal governors will not work. Peter has explained many times that these funds were borrowed by the Federal Government for projects in anambra state
All these cut and join nonsense to make Peter Obi look like a saint won’t work.

He is as bad, corrupt, anti masses and wicked as other politicians.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwjQPjBf9U&feature=youtu.be


NLCreator:
Peter Obi, presidential candidate of the Labour Party (LP) in the 2023 elections, has defended the purchase of sports utility vehicles (SUVs) for members of the national assembly.

There have been reports that the leadership of the 10th national assembly has bought SUVs for all lawmakers.

Each SUV is said to be valued at N160 million.

The LP had asked members of the party in the national assembly to kick against “wastage”.

While responding to questions during a press conference in Abuja on Monday, the former governor of Anambra said the SUVs are not personal cars of the lawmakers, noting that they are for official use.

“Let me start with the issue of Labour Party members in the house. I have actually discussed this issue with them,” Obi said.

“Surprisingly, I can tell you I heard that these vehicles are official cars. They have to use it. It is meant for office.

“So it is not as if it is their vehicle. They said it is official cars and you are meant to use it while you are in the senate.”

Obi also hinted at contesting for the country’s number one position in 2027, adding that Nigeria deserves dedicated and visionary leaders who will lead the country towards a brighter future.

https://www.thecable.ng/theyre-for-official-use-obi-defends-purchase-of-n160m-suv-for-lawmakers/amp

Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Mrexcell(m): 10:22am On Oct 13
Premium Times is very good in Investigative reporting it's safe to take their own account as the truth of this unending matter.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by SonOfDSoil01: 10:26am On Oct 13
grin bitter obi is a well packaged fraud and failure and no amount of face saving or whitewashing will change that…….come 2027, he will be eminently defeated at the polls to become a distant third…..know this and know peace….btw Tinubu till 2031 grin

Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by OredoPikin: 10:30am On Oct 13
Mynd44:
If the debts were $18 million when he was sworn in and $30 million when be left by his own admission, where did the $12 million differential come from?
The money was supposed to remain $18million na🤣
Like the $18million was interest free.
Agenda agenda😩
E nor go just make person they use his number 6 again.
A whole mod dey push agenda😎. Anyways Seun Osewa openly supported tinubu 2023, so it's not new
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by OredoPikin: 10:31am On Oct 13
SonOfDSoil01:
grin bitter obi is a well packaged fraud and failure and no amount of face saving or whitewashing will change that…….come 2027, he will be eminently defeated at the polls to become a distant third…..know this and know peace….btw Tinubu till 2031 grin
I have never see you make sense one day with your comments😂
So this your comment now will convince anyone not to vote him?
God abeg o
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by SonOfDSoil01: 10:34am On Oct 13
OredoPikin:
I have never see you make sense one day with your comments😂
😂😂😂

I never knew you have dedicated your productive life to monitoring my activities on NL grin I hope you are getting paid handsomely……ndi monitoring spirit, see kettle calling pot black…..continue, you are doing a good job😂😂😂

Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Mrexcell(m): 10:36am On Oct 13
Racoon:
cheesy
-Same Peter Obi that won the best award for Anambra as the most popular state compliant with the MDGs?

-Same Anambra state the then IGP gave the award for the most secured state?

-Same Anambra where many schools were massively rehabilitated with computers / laptops donated to enhance learning?
You are just wasting your precious time explaining to people tinibu's apc govt has employed to tarnish Obi's public image the person u quoted is definitely amongst the 4000 social media attack dogs umahi recently claimed they are going to recruit for dirty jobs like the one he or she is currently doing.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by OredoPikin: 10:39am On Oct 13
SonOfDSoil01:
😂😂😂

I never knew you have dedicated your productive life to monitoring my activities on NL grin I hope you are getting paid handsomely……ndi monitoring spirit, see kettle calling pot black…..continue, you are doing a good job😂😂😂
Na the people wey dey pay una I pity😂
Since 2023, nairaland data boys have not for once tell Nigerians why Tinubu should be voted again
It's Obi this Obi that.
If you guys are really serious, you should be telling us why Tinubu should be trusted again not why Obi should not be voted. The last time I checked, Tinubu and not Obi is the president
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Sonyboom: 10:42am On Oct 13
Peter Obibis actually worse than the average Nigerian politician

Peter Obibis the only LUNATIC as a governor that refused to pay lecturers year long salary.

Same Peter obi is the lunatic that refused to pay doctors for over a year.

This same cursed lunatic Peter Obi refused to pay water corporation workers over 3 years salary.

The foolish Peter Obi increased tuition by over 300%.

Same lunatic gave N4 billion to Orient Petroleum till date it as not produce as single litre of fuel yet his supporters insult Dangote.

Same lunatic Peter Obi is the only madness fool to invest in alcohol n be bragging about it, today the investment is worth nothing.

Same Peter Obi is the only lunatic to be caught as governor ferrying raw cash ,N250 million on behalf of a contractor to Lagos n on getting to Lagos instead of taking the money to the contractors office too the money to his own personal house.

Which governor as ever dared to be this lunatic in the history of Nigeria. Tell me one.aside Peter Obi
.


aworatak:
They truth is that they have nothing against Mr Obi. In order to create the illusion of Obi not being different from the average Nigerian politician, they concoct unfounded stories.
Soludo and Umahi are the pawns used to demarket Okwute.
Their efforts are simply a waste. It won’t stop Nigerians from choosing Obi.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by shadyLP(m): 11:00am On Oct 13
aworatak:
They truth is that they have nothing against Mr Obi. In order to create the illusion of Obi not being different from the average Nigerian politician, they concoct unfounded stories.
Soludo and Umahi are the pawns used to demarket Okwute.
Their efforts are simply a waste. It won’t stop Nigerians from choosing Obi.
They're just deceiving themselves.. if truly PO is guilty of all these claims, efcc would been no1 agency to do their usual eyeservice work to rush and arrest PO just to prove to the citizens
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Afrojuju2017(m): 11:05am On Oct 13
Racoon:
Chai! This your own is sheer ignorance. Have your forgotten that Raji Fashola and Peter Obi were celebrate as the best governors of their time? Meanwhile the defenders of the present govt of sensational failure know how good Peter Obi was back then.
Please don't place Raji Fashola next to Peter Obi, BRF is a competent multi award winning SAN with decades of professional experience in legal jurisprudence etc Peter Obi is a three class graduate that crawled his incompetent self into Anambra government through the aid of Ojukwu
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by bentenny(m): 11:11am On Oct 13
If I manage a company, save ₦100 million and take an external loan of ₦20 million, would it make financial sense to conclude that I am still financially indebted without considering the ₦100 million in savings at my disposal?

Nobody is disputing Peter Obi’s savings, and nobody is disputing the existence of external debts. So why are you focusing exclusively on the liabilities while ignoring the assets that could potentially offset them?

The fundamental principle of financial analysis is that you must examine both sides of the balance sheet before drawing conclusions. You cannot isolate someone's debts, conveniently ignore their savings and then present the resulting picture as an accurate assessment of their financial position.

Of course, savings and debts are not automatically interchangeable. You must establish whether the assets are available, liquid and sufficient to cover the outstanding liabilities. But that is precisely the point: until you examine both sides, you cannot reasonably conclude that the person is financially burdened simply because they have debts.

If you acknowledge Peter Obi's savings but refuse to consider how those savings relate to his liabilities, you are not conducting a balanced financial assessment. You are presenting only the part of the story that supports your argument.

You cannot assess someone’s financial position by looking at their liabilities while deliberately ignoring their assets. That is not financial analysis; it is selective reasoning.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by bentenny(m): 11:15am On Oct 13
Sirjamo:
There's no crime in debt. Every government take loans to execute projects but Mr Obi probably knew that he was a big failure as a governor, if he admits he took loans, people would ask him what he did with the money. He had zero legacy project. Not even a single primary school or primary health care centre.
If he borrowed money, the relevant questions are how much he borrowed, what he spent it on, what assets or savings remained, and what his administration achieved. Those are questions of evidence, not speculation about what he “probably knew.”

And this claim that he built not even a single primary school or primary healthcare centre? Can you substantiate it, or do you expect us to accept sweeping claims simply because you made them confidently?

You cannot dismiss his savings when discussing his finances, then dismiss evidence when discussing his achievements. Bring facts, figures and verifiable records,not assumptions dressed up as arguments.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by SonOfDSoil01: 11:27am On Oct 13
OredoPikin:
Na the people wey dey pay una I pity😂
Since 2023, nairaland data boys have not for once tell Nigerians why Tinubu should be voted again
It's Obi this Obi that.
If you guys are really serious, you should be telling us why Tinubu should be trusted again not why Obi should not be voted. The last time I checked, Tinubu and not Obi is the president
😂😂😂😂😂

As e dey pain dem e dey sweet us grin NwOSU I’m not interested in your hypocritical tears😂😂😂 see people wey never let Tinubu drink water drop cup since the lost election in 2023 Dey my mention Dey cry victim😂😂😂😂 Una tears never start…..reserve it till after 2027 election, after obi must have been defeated at the polls once again……Tinubu till 2031 grin

Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by PigTormentor:
IkeOnyia:
Just stop with this drycleaning. Peter Obi is a dirty and dubious man with no atom of integrity in him.
No amount of dry cleaning can dry clean the packaged fraudster from Agulu. Gbajue, the Yes Daddy religious fanatical clown is DOA.
They can try all they want, the records are there to confirm that Obi was a failed, lying incompetent clown.
Even some gullible Nigerians who fell for his lies in 2023 are much wiser now.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by marv1: 11:45am On Oct 13
You don't have to be talking like a foolish or ingnorant man. Simple asking Google will give you answers to this thrash you have stated here. Among other things Peter Obi did as a governor he bought generators and satellite dish for schools. Google is your friend except you don't want to apply wisdom.

Sirjamo:
There's no crime in debt. Every government take loans to execute projects but Mr Obi probably knew that he was a big failure as a governor, if he admits he took loans, people would ask him what he did with the money. He had zero legacy project. Not even a single primary school or primary health care centre.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by bentenny(m): 11:46am On Oct 13
Mynd44:
I thought Mr Peter Obi said he never took any loan? So we have moved from "he never took any loans" to "he didn't take that much loans"?

The hypocrisy and lies is what is causing this back and forth. Obiano was a former governor, the Soludo administration isn't at longer heads with him why? He didn't go and make unforced force statements about the state on TV in order to look saintly
Peter Obi took no 'domestic' loans.
If he did as you claimed,provide evidence.

The loans you are referring to are external development-financing programmes negotiated through the Federal Government, primarily involving the World Bank and IFAD, and the DMO figures confirm the actual drawdowns,not the combined value of the approved facilities being circulated.

It is financial illiteracy to claim someone left a debt while ignoring the savings available to offset it.Obi’s reported savings are sufficient to cover the actual external debt.why discuss the liabilities while deliberately ignoring the assets?

As for Obiano and Soludo,what exactly does their cordial relationship prove?
Stop presenting the absence of a public feud between Obiano and Soludo as evidence against Obi.

Political relationships are not financial records, and liabilities cannot be assessed honestly while ignoring the assets available to offset them.
Interestingly,Obiano was arrested by the EFCC over embezzlement,just as Ngige also faced EFCC action.Yet Peter Obi remains the exception in this argument.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Originalsly: 12:19pm On Oct 13
Tinubu became Governor of Lagos in 1999 ... be inherited N600 million. He left office in 2007 .. what did he leave for the next Governor? ... a debt of N100 billion ... N27 billion on a credit card.

When you live in a glass house do not throw stones.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Amumaigwe: 12:28pm On Oct 13
Racoon:
Let Charles Soludo govt take him to court to explain. Raji Fashiola have never called Tinubu to accountability or probity on Lagos debts despite all the sensational Alpha-Beta scandals, no FOI act in Lagos, but your attentions is the hatchet job Charlie Nwagbufor is doing for Tinubu in Anambra state.

Ask Tinubu that met less but spiral Lagos debt to more than 100billions when he left office. Demand accountability from the current disaster making life difficult for its citizens first.
Fashola knew where he drew his oxygen from and would not dare point finger at tin-god Tinubu.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Chienex24(m): 12:35pm On Oct 13
Racoon:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/913129-why-peter-obi-doesnt-deserve-praise-despite-saving-150m-anambra-govt.html

PREVIOUS THREAD:
https://www.nairaland.com/8764628/why-peter-obi-doesnt-deserve
Failed Op who is Tinubu prodigy is still trying his best to indict Obi. Obi is clearly a saint among Nigerians corrupt political landscape by far!!!


You can't help but admire Obi's integrity compared to his ancestors, present and past, and the current president too. Very corrupt entities!!!


Just look at the actual debt they tried to squeeze out that he left compared to the amount Soludo's government initially accused him of!!! The hatred, envy and jealousy is clear!!!
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Chienex24(m): 12:37pm On Oct 13
Sonyboom:
Peter Obibis actually worse than the average Nigerian politician

Peter Obibis the only LUNATIC as a governor that refused to pay lecturers year long salary.

Same Peter obi is the lunatic that refused to pay doctors for over a year.

This same cursed lunatic Peter Obi refused to pay water corporation workers over 3 years salary.

The foolish Peter Obi increased tuition by over 300%.

Same lunatic gave N4 billion to Orient Petroleum till date it as not produce as single litre of fuel yet his supporters insult Dangote.

Same lunatic Peter Obi is the only madness fool to invest in alcohol n be bragging about it, today the investment is worth nothing.

Same Peter Obi is the only lunatic to be caught as governor ferrying raw cash ,N250 million on behalf of a contractor to Lagos n on getting to Lagos instead of taking the money to the contractors office too the money to his own personal house.

Which governor as ever dared to be this lunatic in the history of Nigeria. Tell me one.aside Peter Obi
.
You certainly talk too much 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by IGBOPROMISE1: 2:01pm On Oct 13
Racoon:
Even the DMO office said they don't have the baseline debt of Anambra state @the inception and end of Peter Obi govt! So how are they able to even arrived at the 33M debt burden? Are you not worried about that disturbing trend?

Meanwhile, can the you reconcile why Tinubu left so much debt for Lagos State despite generating much from chronic taxation? Can any governor of Lagos be this financially prudent as Peter Obi?
Funnily enough, Lagos state accounts have NEVER been subjected to any rigorous independent scrutiny since 1999! The irony in all this is that it’s Tinubu otimpkus that are noisiest in demanding accountability and scrutiny of the Peter Obi tenure in gov’t! shocked
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by hush15: 2:34pm On Oct 13
Racoon:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/913129-why-peter-obi-doesnt-deserve-praise-despite-saving-150m-anambra-govt.html

PREVIOUS THREAD:
https://www.nairaland.com/8764628/why-peter-obi-doesnt-deserve
But Obi already said all these and Now, Premium Times just verified that he did not take any loan. The said loans was not by Peter Obi and read the draw downs.

I don't know if Premium Times is trying to smart by half but they have only vindicated Obi...

They still haven't proven he took any loan.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by hush15: 2:36pm On Oct 13
Sirjamo:
There's no crime in debt. Every government take loans to execute projects but Mr Obi probably knew that he was a big failure as a governor, if he admits he took loans, people would ask him what he did with the money. He had zero legacy project. Not even a single primary school or primary health care centre.
Where in that report did Premium Times said Obi took a loan. He met a loan and he took a loan are two different thing.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Rebelutionary: 4:44pm On Oct 13
Racoon:
Even the DMO office said they don't have the baseline debt of Anambra state @the inception and end of Peter Obi govt! So how are they able to even arrived at the 33M debt burden? Are you not worried about that disturbing trend?

Meanwhile, can the you reconcile why Tinubu left so much debt for Lagos State despite generating much from chronic taxation? Can any governor of Lagos be this financially prudent as Peter Obi?
You just keep beating around the bush like Obi!

If only he will stop the needless pontificating about being some governance genius and making statements that come back to haunt him!

Like Mynd44 told you, this won't be an issue if only he hadn't lied all this years about not taking loans or leaving any debt and here you are trying to tell us that "he didn't take that much debt" when the article clearly disputes Obi's stance on this matter.

Maybe for you and your co-travellers, Obi "not leaving debt and leaving cash in government coffers" is something revolutionary but just so you know that is the easiest thing to do!

Just do NOTHING!

And Obi personifies this as your ilks regaled us on this and other forum of his abysmal performance when he was Governor!

I saw this video where he made this boast on AriseTV about never saying he would leave APGA and asked for documentary evidence just like he had been lying all this while about the aforementioned!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t467sRFkTm0&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

The annoying thing is that these are unforced conversations but to shore up his emptiness he goes making statements like this that adds nothing to the conversation and you lots lap it up!
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by greatiyk4u(m): 6:46pm On Oct 13
Mynd44:
I don't understand why we are about Lagos here the topic is on Anambra. When one for Lagos comes up, we will debate it.

You have been running away from important questions ever since you opened the topic , why is that?
Obi said him no take loan
DMO said loan increased smaller than wetin Soludo alleged, but them no sure
Soludo said Obi owed $123B come later change am to million

Who are we to believe here?
Obi showed his documents
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by sonofthunder: 7:16pm On Oct 13
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by altteemy(m): 8:48pm On Oct 13
Mynd44:
If the debts were $18 million when he was sworn in and $30 million when be left by his own admission, where did the $12 million differential come from?
Peter Obi’s Argument
Mr Obi has denied taking any loans while in office, explaining that the eight facilities being referred to by the government were “concessionary development-support funds secured by the federal government for states selected for it to address specific needs.”
Going by the above, I would believe Peter Obi did not himself initiate the loans but rather followed through with the loans taken by the FG on behalf of states.

Though I would assume as the Governor, he would have had to sign on some pages for the loan to pull through. He can still claim technically, he did not take (initiate) the loans while at the same time, others can still say he signed up on it. Both sides would still end up politically correct.
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by RodgersAkpafu: 9:50pm On Oct 13
irs Peter Obi i blame

Instead of him to be enjoying his life somewhere, he is bothered bout Nigerians who have sworn that suffering and hardship is their lot in life
Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by KingOfAmebo(m): 10:44pm On Oct 13
Mynd44:
I thought Mr Peter Obi said he never took any loan? So we have moved from "he never took any loans" to "he didn't take that much loans"?

The hypocrisy and lies is what is causing this back and forth. Obiano was a former governor, the Soludo administration isn't at longer heads with him why? He didn't go and make unforced force statements about the state on TV in order to look saintly
See partisan nairaland moderator revealing himself for the world to see, no wonder you kept pushing attacks on the personality of Peter Obi to front page at the speed of light including false accusations without verification while seun looks the other way...grin grin grin

na how much APC dey pay you?..grin grin grin

We now know APC is bankrolling a nairaland moderator, asiri re ti tu...grin grin grin

Re: What Records Show About Anambra Debt Under Peter Obi, Amid Govt’s $123.7m Claim by Godownsit: 7:23pm On Oct 14
Mynd44:
I thought Mr Peter Obi said he never took any loan? So we have moved from "he never took any loans" to "he didn't take that much loans"?

The hypocrisy and lies is what is causing this back and forth. Obiano was a former governor, the Soludo administration isn't at longer heads with him why? He didn't go and make unforced force statements about the state on TV in order to look saintly
Young man, where is the lie in what Mr. Obi said? Soludo and his government had not told us or the world that Mr. Obi took any loan in any bank. None has mentioned any bank that Obi and his government enter to take loan. I think it would be great if Soludo and his government can tell us bank(s) that Obi took loan. I think that would save all side talks.
If I may presume, the debt may be accumulation of contracts awarded and yet to be paid because Obi had repeatedly said he never entered any bank to take loan or bond during his reign. And he did said, all contracts awarded that had been completed and satisfied were paid to date before he left office.
What I expected Soludo and his government to do is to reel out loans obtained by Obi with reference to specific banks and not this roforofo.
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