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| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by ViceGovernor: 9:54pm On Oct 11 |
Saner clines? According to statistics 10 million South Africans still defecate in the open, dey there dey mu_mu yourself 😁😁😁😂😂😂. 1 in every 5 of you south Africans still uses bush toilet till now. 6 out of every 10 of you is infected with HIV AIDS ⛑️ the other 4 are yet to be aware of their positive status....and then you will turn around to mock me and my country that starved our civil servants so your likes can be able to attend schools and be free from the shackles of slavery. If not for Nigerian leaders and their love for their fellow Africans you think 🤔 you will have independence ?Ungrateful lots I don't blame you o, I blame our leaders who have allowed you guys to be making at least 8billion rands yearly for the past decade from our massive population. Your entire telecommunications industry is being spoon-fed by Nigerians. Time don reach when we go chase all of una companies comot for Naija e no far, senator Adams dey work on una case, una mind go dey very soon no worries. 😂 IronGalaxy:
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| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 9:58pm On Oct 11 |
ViceGovernor:A lot of arrant nonsense |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by Chauke(m): 9:42am On Oct 12 |
Murketeer:. Absolutely the whole can chase South African business out their countries. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 2:56pm On Oct 12*. Modified: 3:39pm On Oct 12 |
Murketeer:Eh My brother speak for yourself o, me I don't have any soft spot for those people. They are suffering from PATSD- Post Apartheid stress disorder and are taking it out on migrants. The problem with them is that they are essentially a third world country running around pretending to be a first world country and it is coming back to bite them in the azz. They cannot deal with the western styled laws and constitution on and are reverting back to their "essential" African state of mind which is tribalism, xenophobia and lawlessness. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by Murketeer: 3:33pm On Oct 12 |
IronGalaxy:What did somebody like Chidinma who was born in SA and grew up there with SA friends , relatives etc do to warrant such disgusting hatred from you guys ![]() |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 3:58pm On Oct 12 |
Murketeer:Are you sure Chidinma was born in SA? Because according to her father, him and his wife first came to SA in 2010 for the World Cup and they didn't have any children at that time, if Chidinma was indeed born in SA she'll have to be under the age of 16...Let's be real here, Chidinma is a chancer, a real SOuth African is without an identity because of her and her parents.. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by Kobojunkie: 2:48pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:While you lot are busy fighting off other black fellow Africans, I hope you are putting even more energy into fighting off the other invaders plotting to bring more destruction upon you all in the near future? They are coming!
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| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 3:26pm On Oct 13 |
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=140901774]While you lot are busy fighting off other black fellow Africans, I hope you are putting even more energy into fighting off the other invaders plotting to bring more destruction upon you all in the near future? They are coming! isnt it this what we already doing? You keep making this about skin color and its not |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 4:05pm On Oct 13 |
Murketeer:She didn't do anything and is a victim is as much as is the "alleged" girl who's identity was stolen and who has been reported to have received a new one. The South Africans transferred their anger, hate and envy for Nigerians unto the poor girl and are demonizing her to continue their narrative of being victims to these hordes of immigrants entering their Kontry. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 4:43pm On Oct 13*. Modified: 7:09pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:You are not "envied" in South Africa, you're reviled. Two different things, don't mislead others with lies |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 7:57pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:You should have left the previous write up you posted. It was closer to the truth that this obvious propaganda push. If we were so reviled you would have stopped taking our visa and flight ticket money, closed your embassy and cut of all diplomatic relations. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 8:07pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:Except that's not how the real world works.. Our government is offering yall asylum, the South African masses are against that, so our government taking your visas has nothing to do with the sentiment on the streets,.Nigerians remain reviled by ordinary South Africans, this is a fact you and I know |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 8:19pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:But you are a functioning representative democracy are you not? The best in Africa, government for the people by the people. Your masses are marching and marching but the asylum offices are still open dishing out asylum approvals and arresting your "leaders", are they not? What are you going to do now, stay in your state of revilement? You people are a joke looking for scapegoats to blame and that is the real fact. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 8:39pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:what exactly are you disputing here? That you are reviled in South Africa? My guy, South Africans detest Nigerians and it had nothing to do with "envy"..there's nothing worth envying with your people we dont want these people in our country, we've made it clear many times.. this is not scapegoating, we don't want you and that's that |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 8:45pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:You envy Nigerians my dear boy. You envy their unwavering ability to succeed. You envy their boldness. You envy their Swag. You envy their desirability. Stop lying to yourself. Everyone knows this. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 8:48pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:Hahaha.. You wouldnt be Nigerian without being delusional.. The only envy im seeing is from yall towards us. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 8:57pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:What do we envy about you as a people? Your apartheid history where you were humiliated? Your bantu education that informs your myopic view of the world? Your government built 2 room RDP houses? Your HIV epidemic? Your GBV? Your women who desire foreigners? The overt racism practiced in your country? Please! |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 9:08pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:what do we envy about you as a people? I could the same question Criminal inclination? Big mouths? Backwardness? Negative reputation worldwide? Your failed state where absolutely nothing works? Born refugee nature? You were also colonized wrent you? Wasn't that humiliating as well.? You keep going on and on about Bantu education, ..what does that have to do with me? Focus on your lowly 65% literacy rate and your high rates of out of school children At least our government thinks of building something for us, what does yours do for you? Absolutely nothing. You mean the HIV epidemic where the affected live longer than Nigerians on average? Get free medication? You cant be serious.. focus on mother to child prevention so your babies are spared.. Oops I forgot, you lack the capability . Lol, south african women prefer SA men,its reflected on stats, sentiment, eye test, and any way you wanna disect it Overt racism? When there's Over tribalism in your country? You cant be serious Here's why? South Africa is miles a better country that Nigeria ever will.. this is a crux of your jealousy towards us.. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 9:21pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:You envy based on what I enumerated. IronGalaxy:Read my dear boy, read. The colonial/Apartheid administration by the British in Nigeria was very very far from that of South Africa. IronGalaxy:I have told you before how it affects your generation. 3 out of 5 of you are suffering from the residual effects. IronGalaxy:have you seen the new airport and road projects popping up in Nigeria. Do your research. They are building albeit not fast enough for a population of 200 million very diverse people. IronGalaxy:It's an epidemic non the less. IronGalaxy:You would say that wouldn't you but a simple search on youtube would prove otherwise. IronGalaxy:The question was why would we be envious of the overt racism that you receive and not if tribalism exists in Nigeria. IronGalaxy:My brather, we cannot be jealous of what already exists in most parts of the world which we have access to and have tasted. You really must get a passport and travel. You have a very myopic view of the world. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by IronGalaxy: 9:35pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:1. South Africa is a better country than Nigeria in almost all relevant ramifications.. you stand to envy us than the other way around.. your people are in SA for reason, nobody gives a f.. about your swag, its cringe even. 2. You were colonized.. thats a historical fact, you were a subordinate once upon a time.. pointing fingers at South Africa is ridiculous 3. I was never subjected to bantu education, so it has nothing to do with me.. and a system ive never been subjected to has no residual effects to me.. stop trying to sound smart 4. I don't care about your projects, Nigeria remains a proper hshthole.. West African countries like Senegal and the Ivory Coast, mog your infrastructure... even Porto Novo of Benin is a much, cleaner, structured city than any of your cities 5. Its an epidemic, yet the affected are healthier than many Nigerians, live longer lives on average.. you should be getting your people used to testing so your real numbers emerge.. 6. In as much you wouldnt envy the racism in South Africa, we dont envy the tribalism that exist over there.. among black people even |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 9:55pm On Oct 13 |
IronGalaxy:We cannot envy you based on the fact that we travel to many countries to take advantage of globalization and global capital. This is a nonsensical statement. if this were true it would apply in every instance of places Nigerians reside. IronGalaxy:I refer you back to my earlier answer on colonial administration. Find me characters similar to a Cecil John Rhodes, Paulus Kruger or a PW Botha in Nigeria and then we can talk. IronGalaxy:Most of your mothers and gugu's who didn't go to school and spent most their time cleaning homes while most of your grandads travelling distances to far off mining towns surely had an effect on your ability to perceive the world, you don't think? IronGalaxy:But you said we don't build anything, now its you don't care if we building any at all or the size and magnitude of the projects. Shame. You are a very envious human being. IronGalaxy:It is an epidemic non the less. Dance around it all you want. IronGalaxy:False equivocation. Racism and tribalism are very much expressed differently. And therefore you not envying tribalism in Nigeria is equivalent to not envying the beef between a Zulu man and ama Shangaan. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 10:10pm On Oct 13 |
You must have said something nasty eh! Waiting for Kingcold to finish your thoughts. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by KingCold: 10:16pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:You travel or flee to other countries to escape the harsh realities of Nigeria.. we all know you've failed as a Nigerian if you've never left the shores of Nigeria I dont think I need to find you characters like Rhodes to prove you also suffered the ignominy of colonization. Pointless exercise Nigerians sell everything they have to finance moving to Dubai to be au pairs or clean toilets, you're accusing South Africans of things your people are doing TODAY!! Bruv, nobody cares about your projects, nobody goes around thinking "oh Nigeria is building an airport, oh im so heartbroken".. lol... you simply can't go accusing everyone of being "jealous" of you.. Ghanians, South Africans, Black Americans, etc.. its not realistic Whether its an epidemic or not, it doesnt change the fact that your people are still grappling with Malaria deaths and Malnutrition.. the HIV of South Africa should be the least of your worries Theres no beef betwen Tsonga and zulu people.. you're reaching |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by KingCold: 10:17pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:Not even, this forum hates the truth, its Nigerian afterall |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 10:35pm On Oct 13 |
KingCold:No, we have been travelling and have had world exposure since the 1940's. It's part of the culture now but its the opposite for you. When we visit your airports its only 95% of the onyinbo we see jetting out of the country. KingCold:Bantu education on display. Please never you compare the European settlements and administrations in South Africa to that of West Africa. You must never!!! KingCold:Its because your poor have no lands to sell because they were displaced from their homelands is why they can't think of raising capital to chase global capital. Don't compare! KingCold:I didn't say you were jealous of our "projects", you brought that up. Please don't misquote me.I don't believe Ghanaian's or Black Americans are jealous of Nigerians. I do however believe this is the case for South Africa and I have stated why. KingCold:Which is why I stated we can't be jealous of such an epidemic. FYI The vast majority of Malaria deaths are very young children with uunderdeveloped immune systems of this toddlers. This is not the same as over promiscuity by irresponsible adult populations engaging in unprotected sex and spreading a virus. KingCold:You like to lie eh! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLzo_IRs3Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3s4-hlLwtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQDOyTxpctM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uoptPBHnqo |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by KingCold: 10:54pm On Oct 13 |
seppuku:Lol, yet South Africa is rated as the number ranked leisure traveling country in Africa.. the jokes write themselves.. South Africans travel, we're just no loud about it like you are.. Im comparing colonization with colonization.. unless you're Ethiopian.. your people suffered the brutality of colonization..this is a documented fact. Your people regularly accuse everyone of being "jealous" of them, Ghanians, Kenyans, South Africans, Black Americans, etc. So im not misqouting you, I'm highlighting an age old pattern, it's either you're "jealous" of a Nigerian, or you're "lazy".. "jealous" of boldness and swag? Imagine, LOL If I as a South African am "poor" I shudder to think what you a Nigerian are.. you're on average, poorer, with worse living standards, lower literacy levels, trapped in slums, than South Africans ever will Its 2026.. and you still think HIV is spread by being promiscuous? You Nigerians really have a lot to learn about HIV, you blab about it but know very little about it.. ,No wonder the disease is still clouded by stigma over there How does it change anything that malaria or malnutrition affects your kids? Arent your kids part of the Nigerian population? |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 11:20pm On Oct 13 |
KingCold:Would you like to give us the stats on that to back up your story and make sure you account for absolute numbers in international travel and income levels if possible. i want to see something KingCold:What brutality as compared to your colonial administration or apartheid rule? Expanciate? KingCold:Its only South Africans my dear brother. The rest of those people you mentioned pretty much ignore our noise making. KingCold:How can we be trapped and at the same time are able to jappa by selling land and properties to countries like yours. You are contradicting yourself KingCold:Oh its still spreading my dear boy because a larger number are unaware of their status compared to those living with the disease. KingCold:It doesn't, it simply demonstrates that the two diseases should not be compared in terms of incidence of death or availability to treatment because the group most vulnerable rate of mortality is much lower due to an already inherent underdeveloped immune system. |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by KingCold: 3:33am On Oct 14*. Modified: 4:25am On Oct 14 |
seppuku:leisure traveling, the actual traveling, not the fleeing, overstaying of visas or migration for greener pastures..
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| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by KingCold: 3:50am On Oct 14 |
seppuku:1. Are we now trying to play down the brutality of colonization? There's no element present in Apartheid that wasnt present in colonialism.. Apartheid is the offshoot of colonialism..both were brutal 2. There's no contradiction here, Nigerians regulary sell their belongings to finance moving to the west for greener pastures, they do that so they can get menial jobs in the west, what are you disputing here? 3. You said HIV is caused by "promiscuity", you are failing to substantiate your argument, you clearly know nothing about the disease, I now understand why HIV is so stigmatized over there.. 4. Black Americans definitely push back against you calling them "lazy" and "jealous" , I see this all the time on social media.. you go there , get a few degrees, then start running your moutths.. this is what you mistake for being "bold". 5. Nigeria has the second highest burden of chronically malnourished children in the world, why on earth are you playing this down? Not only this, Nigeria also has the highest prevalence of babies born with HIV in the world, As for malaria, your country accounts roughly for 30% of global malaria deaths.. but the obsession with you and your people is the HIV of fat flung South Africa |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 3:32pm On Oct 14*. Modified: 3:51pm On Oct 14 |
KingCold:Not play down, run a comparison. What atrocities can you identify during the British administration that you feel was equivalent to that of South Africa. Let's discuss one specific event shall, we? KingCold:How can we therefore be trapped in an environment in which we have the means to "escape"? KingCold:HIV is not "caused" by promiscuity. The disease is definitely spread by it and in South Africa that is a given. KingCold:I schooled in the US and have intermingled severally with African Americans from the days of the Nation of Islam folk to the Black moors down to the Hebrew Israelite folk. This internet War and name calling is strictly an internet Phenomena peddled by this new age FBA cult who are pushing against the growing trend of the new "African" identity taking a strong hold in America culture. African migrants starting from the 80's down to the 2010 were the original victims of insults and the likes. If you want to go deeper into this discussion, please let me know. KingCold:This has nothing to do with my initial claim. Irrelevant. KingCold:You like to lie no? https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-children-newly-infected-with-hiv KingCold:That's because there are only specific regions in the world where Malaria- Plasmodium falciparum actually exists and with the country's high population compared to other "Malaria infected areas," will carry a substantial proportion of any fatalities. Context is everything my friend. Bantu education really did a number on your people? |
| Re: Renewed Violence Against Immigrants Breaks Out In South Africa by seppuku: 3:35pm On Oct 14*. Modified: 4:00pm On Oct 14 |
KingCold:Clever boy. Trying to use an article to fit your narrative. 1. I asked you for the Stats not an article with "no numbers" to back up. 2. Mozambic, Mauritius, Namibia, Botswana- Don't make me fall off my seat Mfethu. 3. Please give me the "percentages" of outbound traveller's from your country and let us compare. I want to see something. |
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