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Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23: 3:53pm On Oct 16
Expanse2020:
Are you that d🫥ft like TenQ too who said Allah is Muhammad,🤣😂😂
So Muhammed will be talking to himself like that calling himself when talking to people 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
This 🧠 of your don't use it cross road ...
No Allah is not Muhammad

But it is easy to see throughout the Quran who is submitting to who between Allah and Muhammad

Allah does and approves all what Muhammad wills
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering: 3:56pm On Oct 16
TV01:
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What makes him holy? What does ee'slam define as holy?
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Holiness as far as humans are concerned in Islam is sinlessness. Or the purifying actions that makes one sinless. The holy Prophet Muhammad is at the pinnacle of this state. He is not only sinless, he is protected from falling into sins because of how God Almighty has created and configured him to live.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering:
TV01:
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How does one who is not omnipotent know the state or deeds of each individual in order to make intercession for them.
Omnipotence is not a requirement for intercession in Islam. Only God is Omnipotent in Islam. It is your acceptability before God that qualifies you for intercession. Even Jesus did not teach his disciples that he is omnipotent when he was "alive" according to christianity. All these started when people started to claim that they saw things after the so called resurrection.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Samsyne(m): 4:39pm On Oct 16
Study doesn't really mean read .. heard/know they were jew and Christians around when Mohammed was growing... Before Islamic era there's ablution . circumambulation of Kaaba by the pagan Arabs... Mohammad has no evidence just Allah said ..jubril said ... Jesus or Abraham never knew Islam.. for him to be accepted he has to discredit some details that was 700years old with evidence...but at the end Allah didn't see the internet coming
Expanse2020:
Did you just a man from Arabian study Jews book (someone who is unlearned 😂😂 study Jews book are you for real ,,🤣🤣)

Plagiarized it (did you know the meaning of that words 🤣😂😂 which one did he plagiarized, mattew, Galatians Abi song of Solomon 🤣🤣🤣)

Add its own details (as how naw ,🤣🤣🤣 he removed JESUS own put him own Abi )

Form a religion (which religion did Moses, Jesus brought as far as we know they were both Jews) where was Christianity came from who founded it am sure not Jesus
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering: 4:41pm On Oct 16
Kukutente23:
You can only intercede for others when you're without sin yourself. Your fellow sinner cannot intercede on your behalf. To intercede is to take your place.
So in summary, if Islam teaches that no one can bear the sins of another, how then can there be an intercessor. And how come only Muhammad is holy in Islam?
Always building on flawed logic.

Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 4:46pm On Oct 16
Expanse2020:
LIKE YOU OVER SABI FOLLOWER OF PAUL
THEM NO HYPE JESUS IN ISREAL LIKE YOU DO IN NIGERIA...

that why our own prophet warned us not to behave radical like you Christians
Very honest prophet who never lies, he claimed the Jews call Ezra the son of God. Can you give any proof where Jews call Ezra the son of God? If this is false, how do you know his other claims are true?
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Expanse2020(m): 5:03pm On Oct 16
INJESUSNAME:
Very honest prophet who never lies, he claimed the Jews call Ezra the son of God. Can you give any proof where Jews call Ezra the son of God? If this is false, how do you know his other claims are true?
Did you believed that you christian believed Jesus his a son of before calling God gan gan 🤣🤣😂😂
And also try to do finding the status of Ezra among others in Jewish religion too
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 5:03pm On Oct 16
GreenCovering:
Holiness as far as humans are concerned in Islam is sinlessness. Or the purifying actions that makes one sinless. The holy Prophet Muhammad is at the pinnacle of this state. He is not only sinless, he is protected from falling into sins because of how God Almighty has created and configured him to live.
Please provide these claims with evidence
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 5:07pm On Oct 16
Expanse2020:
Did you believed that you christian believed Jesus his a son of before calling God gan gan 🤣🤣😂😂
Your prophet is the truthful one. Answer my question. Is that error or what in the last revelation that the Jews call Ezra the son of God?
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 5:08pm On Oct 16
Expanse2020:
Did you believed that you christian believed Jesus his a son of before calling God gan gan 🤣🤣😂😂
And also try to do finding the status of Ezra among others in Jewish religion too
Where and when did the Jews call Ezra son of God?
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by AntiChristian: 5:47pm On Oct 16
Kukutente23:
That is why he is the final messenger of Islam. Isa is coming back. And when he comes back as a prophet, are you going to receive him as a prophet of Islam or as a prophet of Christianity?

Of course Isa is a prophet of Islam. He is coming after Muhammad as a prophet of Islam so he is the final messenger. This is logical to anyone who is not blinded by Islamic logic where the shoe must fit even if it is on the wrong foot!

Your claim is like saying Biden is the latest president of the US because Trump was President before Biden! Islamic logic sha
Here's my last post regarding this. You can continue to remain in your delusion. Same people that counted three Gods as one are trying to determine who comes last in another's religion! Your analogy is lacking as those presidents have two terms to serve each if alive.

Biden used his terms and created his own policies. Trump is creating his own policies now and never using most of Biden's policies.

Isa's policy aka the Injeel is lost and no more. The Policy on ground till judgement day is the Qur'an. So accept it that Jesus remains the penultimate Prophet!

Bye on this!
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by AntiChristian: 6:00pm On Oct 16
Kukutente23:
The ten commandments are universal not peculiar to Moses. That they were given through Moses does not make them become his. Or have you ever heard the Jews or Christians call the Ten commandments, Moses ten commandments? There are a lot of things that Joshua did as Prophet that was not commanded by Moses. One was giving the 2 tribes of Joseph land on the other side of the Jordan. Moses actually commanded the children of Israel to enter Canaanland but Joshua gave the land to Mannasseh and Ephraim when they asked for it. Also, the temple in Jerusalem did not exist during the time of Moses. It came during the time of Solomon. However, the Levitical and Judaic laws were the laws given by Moses but implemented after him by other prophets, judges, kings and scribes. None of them deviated from Moses' laws including David whom you erroneously claim was given a different book from the Torah. Only Muhammad claimed to be a prophet in the Judaic line but had his own laws and religion different from that given by Moses!
No one is saying the 10 commandments was only for Moses. In Islam, Messengers are superior to Prophets. Moses, Jesus, David, Noah and Muhammad were messengers. Messengers are Prophets sent to a disbelieving people usually with revelation. A Prophet on the other hand uses the book of another messenger that preceeds him. And yes David was given Zaboor which some translates as Psalms though it's never the Psalm as it is today. And the Prophets are one in the worship of only one God alone and total submission to Him alone. Their laws and rituals may differ.[/quote]As for Noah, there is nothing in the Bible that suggests his family believed him to be a prophet. They obeyed him as the head of the family. Trying to equate that to mean he was sent to his family as prophet is total rubbish. If your quran claims Noah was sent as a prophet to his wife and children that's not biblical belief. He was sent to people who did not believe him and thus perished. That's the position of the Bible.[/quote]Stop all these false message. Noah was a Prophet even according to the Bible whether his family believe him to be or not. Who is a Prophet according to the Bible? Deuteronomy 18:18: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." Wasn't Noah a mouthpiece for God to build the ark and save humanity and animals from the flood?

You have still not answered why only those who followed Muhammad are believed to truly follow Allah. Islam met Christianity and Judaism. Judaism is the religion of Moses. Christianity is the religion of Jesus. So why do you insist that only those who follow Muhammad are following Allah. Are you saying those who followed the religion of Moses did not follow Allah?
Islam never met any other religion. I have told you several times all Prophets worshipped one God alone and they all submitted to Him alone. That's Islam. There's no religion called Judaism or Christianity in the Bible! People gave those names as Both Moses and Jesus never knew any religion by that name!

Moses, Jesus and other Prophets were all Muslims.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Expanse2020(m): 6:34pm On Oct 16
INJESUSNAME:
Where and when did the Jews call Ezra son of God?
Did you call Jesus son of God. Yes or No

Did you gave Ezra a special treatment make him like he his mini God Yes or No

Answer the two questions if you have balls
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by MrPresident1: 7:09pm On Oct 16
Accept Islam and be free from madness

Only the light of Islam entering into you and your surrender to it can save you from madness

expert234:
I challenge you to show me 5 evidence of light in Islam! grin

Let's even check whether you know anything tangible about this your airrab sllavverry religion you are practicing grin
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23: 7:24pm On Oct 16
GreenCovering:
Always building on flawed logic.
to intercede means to step between two parties at variance (such as God and humanity) to ask for mercy on behalf of someone else

This is the first definition from your screenshot

Also see screenshot below

It clearly says here that to intercede means to step in between 2 parties who are at conflict and plead on behalf of one of the party.

A simple analogy is if a parent wants to beat a child. To intercede on behalf of the child, you have to step in between the two of them and take the place of the child. For you to be in a position to intercede on behalf of the child, the parent must regard you enough as someone worth listening to (which is where the holiness comes from). Someone who has offended the parent can hardly be in the position to plead for another. In pleading, you are asking that your state be looked at above and beyond the sin of the child. If your state is not of such to overshadow the sin of the child, you're not in a moral position to plead. So that's why pleading means you're taking on the sin of the child with your own higher moral standing.

I hope you can relate the analogy with the moral state of Muhammad as a sinner and whether he's of such that can take on and overshadow the sin of his followers especially as it relates to murder and adultery

Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 8:29pm On Oct 16
Expanse2020:
Did you call Jesus son of God. Yes or No

Did you gave Ezra a special treatment make him like he his mini God Yes or No

Answer the two questions if you have balls
So q u r a n I c claims about Ezra being son of God is wrong.. That is an error in a book that claims to be error free! You can continue to beat about the bush.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by TV01(m): 8:35pm On Oct 16
GreenCovering:
Holiness as far as humans are concerned in Islam is sinlessness. Or the purifying actions that makes one sinless.
Ok, we'll work with your definition. Please show with evidence from your texts exactly what this "purifying action" is, how it works or is applied.

GreenCovering:
The holy Prophet Muhammad is at the pinnacle of this state.
What does it mean to be at the "pinnacle" of this state of holiness? How, and since when did he attain to this state?. The ee.slam.c texts clearly show he was a sinner and required forgiveness. Words he himself uttered.

GreenCovering:
He is not only sinless, he is protected from falling into sins because of how God Almighty has created and configured him to live.
Again, his own words declared him to be a man like other men. How was he created or "configured to live" that sets him apart and above other men.

Do you not see the irony of your claims on a thread opened to caution against overpraising wink.


TV
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering: 8:43pm On Oct 16
The Qur'an has described him as the source of spiritual light for humanity, Quran 33:46 and the mercy for all the worlds Quran 21:107 and an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day... Quran 33:21 to name a few.

INJESUSNAME:
Please provide these claims with evidence
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23:
AntiChristian:
Here's my last post regarding this. You can continue to remain in your delusion. Same people that counted three Gods as one are trying to determine who comes last in another's religion! Your analogy is lacking as those presidents have two terms to serve each if alive.

Biden used his terms and created his own policies. Trump is creating his own policies now and never using most of Biden's policies.

Isa's policy aka the Injeel is lost and no more. The Policy on ground till judgement day is the Qur'an. So accept it that Jesus remains the penultimate Prophet!

Bye on this!
I'm not trying to determine who comes last in your religion. Neither you nor I have the right to determine that. What we should do as humans with brain is to read the texts of the scripture and see how it fits.

The Qur'an does not explicity state who is the final messenger. It only describes Muhammad as the seal of the prophets. The mainstream interpretation of this is that it means he's the final messenger.

Under normal circumstance, one would be constrained to accept such interpretation but in the face of a conflict with the established scripture, such interpretation must be set aside. It is common sense else we have the Qur'an conflicting with itself.

Since the Qur'an explicitly says Isa is a messenger who is not dead and is coming back after Muhammad, simple logic dictates that Isa is thus the final messenger since he's coming back and he's not losing his status as a messenger or is he? If so, show me where this is written that once a messenger comes after you, you're no longer a messenger.

Show me where the Qur'an said the Injeel is lost and no more! Are you saying it's possible for Allah's revelation to get lost? If so, how are we sure such fate has not befallen the Qur'an

Your analogy on policy is misguided. A Presidemt does not become one on ground of policy but on ground of being elected and sworn in. Whatever policy he chooses to establish is irrelevant to bring a president. Same for a messenger. You can't impose your own standards to decide the end of a messenger

Isa remains a messenger and he's coming back according to the Qur'an which makes him the last messenger of Islam

You can rest if you have nothing to point to from the Qur'an to counter the above. The Qur'an is the only acceptable standard not your bias
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 8:53pm On Oct 16
GreenCovering:
The Qur'an has described him as the source of spiritual light for humanity, Quran 33:46 and the mercy for all the worlds Quran 21:107 and an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day... Quran 33:21 to name a few.
If your book claims this, then your god is not a good one.
Such man cannot be a source of spiritual light for humanity. This reminds me of the friends of the pro fet such as Ms Baba, Christian prince, David wood etc. what they tell us about this man is opposite of excellent example..
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by TV01(m): 8:54pm On Oct 16
GreenCovering:
Omnipotence is not a requirement for intercession in Islam. Only God is Omnipotent in Islam. It is your acceptability before God that qualifies you for intercession.
I mentioned Hebrews earlier. Please read that book of the bible. It beautifully illustrates Christs sinlessness, holiness, high priesthood ministry, authority and everlasting life. Making him a fitting High Priest, author of salvation to those who believe and able to save to the uttermost, those who come to God through Him. Splendid scripture vs. pulled out from my fundament narrative. Please!

GreenCovering:
Even Jesus did not teach his disciples that he is omnipotent when he was "alive" according to christianity. All these started when people started to claim that they saw things after the so called resurrection.
Omnipotence would be demonstrated and inferred rather than taught. I shouldn't have too, but here goes,

1. The Lord Jesus Christ claimed universal authority - Matthew 28:18
2. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority over nature - Mark 4:39
3. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority over demons - Mark 1:27
4. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority to forgive sins - Mark 2:5-7
5. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority life and death - John 11
6. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority over nature - Mark 4:39
7. The Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated authority to grant life - eternal life - John 10:28

Additionally, The Lord accepted worship and made the telling "I AM" statements - Before Abraham was I AM, being 1 of 7 instances,

So, not only omnipotent, but also omnipresent and omniscient - amen hallelujah!


TV
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering: 8:54pm On Oct 16
Kukutente23:
to intercede means to step between two parties at variance (such as God and humanity) to ask for mercy on behalf of someone else

This is the first definition from your screenshot

Also see screenshot below

It clearly says here that to intercede means to step in between 2 parties who are at conflict and plead on behalf of one of the party.

A simple analogy is if a parent wants to beat a child. To intercede on behalf of the child, you have to step in between the two of them and take the place of the child. For you to be in a position to intercede on behalf of the child, the parent must regard you enough as someone worth listening to (which is where the holiness comes from). Someone who has offended the parent can hardly be in the position to plead for another. In pleading, you are asking that your state be looked at above and beyond the sin of the child. If your state is not of such to overshadow the sin of the child, you're not in a moral position to plead. So that's why pleading means you're taking on the sin of the child with your own higher moral standing.

I hope you can relate the analogy with the moral state of Muhammad as a sinner and whether he's of such that can take on and overshadow the sin of his followers especially as it relates to murder and adultery
At least we seem to be agreeing that it is a go-between role for pleading and not an authority which therefore does not mean taking the place of the sinner or paying the price for the sin or the sinner.

Also Islam makes it clear that this go-between role shall require special permission to be granted by God Almighty for it to be played. No human will have the audacity to simply jump in to it before God Almighty on the Day of Judgement.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by expert234: 9:07pm On Oct 16
MrPresident1:
Accept Islam and be free from madness

Only the light of Islam entering into you and your surrender to it can save you from madness
Islam has no light. Islam represents daarrkkness. Everybody with cense know that. grin

Putting islam and Light together in a sentence is an aberrattion grin grin grin
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23: 10:49pm On Oct 16
AntiChristian:
No one is saying the 10 commandments was only for Moses. In Islam, Messengers are superior to Prophets. Moses, Jesus, David, Noah and Muhammad were messengers. Messengers are Prophets sent to a disbelieving people usually with revelation. A Prophet on the other hand uses the book of another messenger that preceeds him. And yes David was given Zaboor which some translates as Psalms though it's never the Psalm as it is today. And the Prophets are one in the worship of only one God alone and total submission to Him alone. Their laws and rituals may differ.

As for Noah, there is nothing in the Bible that suggests his family believed him to be a prophet. They obeyed him as the head of the family. Trying to equate that to mean he was sent to his family as prophet is total rubbish. If your quran claims Noah was sent as a prophet to his wife and children that's not biblical belief. He was sent to people who did not believe him and thus perished. That's the position of the Bible. Stop all these false message. Noah was a Prophet even according to the Bible whether his family believe him to be or not. Who is a Prophet according to the Bible? Deuteronomy 18:18: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." Wasn't Noah a mouthpiece for God to build the ark and save humanity and animals from the flood?

You have still not answered why only those who followed Muhammad are believed to truly follow Allah. Islam met Christianity and Judaism. Judaism is the religion of Moses. Christianity is the religion of Jesus. So why do you insist that only those who follow Muhammad are following Allah. Are you saying those who followed the religion of Moses did not follow Allah?

Islam never met any other religion. I have told you several times all Prophets worshipped one God alone and they all submitted to Him alone. That's Islam. There's no religion called Judaism or Christianity in the Bible! People gave those names as Both Moses and Jesus never knew any religion by that name!

Moses, Jesus and other Prophets were all Muslims.
Can you give an example of a Prophet who is not a messenger from your quran. The children of David only know Psalms. They don't know any zabroor. Zabroor is an Arabic term which simply means songs. So to claim that Allah revealed Jewish songs with an Arabic name is just hogwash. It makes no sense

You're changing mouth islamically on the matter of Noah. You first claimed that those who believed him are those he was sent to. After you've been corrected that biblically, those he was sent to did not believe him, you've changed mouth to that it does not matter whether they believe him or not. Try and be stable in your exegesis even if Islam does not require it of you.

You lie though. Christianity exists in the Bible. As for Judaism, it's a latter day coinage. The proper term is the "religion of the Jews" and it is found in the Bible as well.
Chronologically, Judaism and Christianity are older than Islam. Islam recognises both while both do not recognise Islam. So it makes no sense to make Islam retroactive when it copied themes and attacked doctrines of the religions you claimed did not exist before it. Both Jews and Christians exist in the Qur'an. That alone proves their existence before Islam
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23: 5:28am On Oct 17
GreenCovering:
At least we seem to be agreeing that it is a go-between role for pleading and not an authority which therefore does not mean taking the place of the sinner or paying the price for the sin or the sinner.

Also Islam makes it clear that this go-between role shall require special permission to be granted by God Almighty for it to be played. No human will have the audacity to simply jump in to it before God Almighty on the Day of Judgement.
I'm sure you saw the definition I posted
You can't stand between a judge and a sinner to plead without taking the place of the sinner before the judge

Like I also highlighted, it makes no sense for a fellow sinner who is awaiting his own judgement to start to plead on behalf of others. It's legally and theologically absurd
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by AntiChristian: 10:01am On Oct 17
Kukutente23:
Can you give an example of a Prophet who is not a messenger from your quran. The children of David only know Psalms. They don't know any zabroor. Zabroor is an Arabic term which simply means songs. So to claim that Allah revealed Jewish songs with an Arabic name is just hogwash. It makes no sense
I refuse to continue with your lazy ignorance. Whatever was revealed to David is called Zaboor just as that of Moses was Torah, Abraham too had his book and Injeel for Jesus. These are names given to the books irrespective of the names you know them as. None of these books exist nowadays. That's how Christians will argue on baseless names! Even modern Christian scholars now admit the book of Psalms was not written entirely by David. Any sane person would know Zaboor can mean Psalm which means song/poem.

You're changing mouth islamically on the matter of Noah. You first claimed that those who believed him are those he was sent to. After you've been corrected that biblically, those he was sent to did not believe him, you've changed mouth to that it does not matter whether they believe him or not. Try and be stable in your exegesis even if Islam does not require it of you.
You are the one relying on the Bible. How do i change mouth Islamically when talking about your Bible? You need to keep your thought process in check! If i am Islamical then i am. If you are talking about your Bible then don't expect me to be Islamical. The Islamic belief about Noah is not the same as your Bible. Noah was the first messenger while Adam the first Prophet in Islam.

You lie though. Christianity exists in the Bible. As for Judaism, it's a latter day coinage. The proper term is the "religion of the Jews" and it is found in the Bible as well.
Chronologically, Judaism and Christianity are older than Islam. Islam recognises both while both do not recognise Islam. So it makes no sense to make Islam retroactive when it copied themes and attacked doctrines of the religions you claimed did not exist before it. Both Jews and Christians exist in the Qur'an. That alone proves their existence before Islam
This your words are too much. How about you show us where they are in the Bible?

Surah Aal Imran 3:19
“Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam.”

Surah Aal Imran 3:85
“And whoever desires other than Islam as religion—never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.”
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by Kukutente23: 6:06pm On Oct 17
AntiChristian:
I refuse to continue with your lazy ignorance. Whatever was revealed to David is called Zaboor just as that of Moses was Torah, Abraham too had his book and Injeel for Jesus. These are names given to the books irrespective of the names you know them as. None of these books exist nowadays. That's how Christians will argue on baseless names! Even modern Christian scholars now admit the book of Psalms was not written entirely by David. Any sane person would know Zaboor can mean Psalm which means song/poem.
Have you ever stopped to consider why your Qur'an mentioned the names of the books that were already known before it was revealed but never knew the names of books that were not known before it was revealed. The Torah simply means laws in Hebrew. Your Quran retained the name. The Injeel simply means good news which is what Gospel also means in Greek. Zabroor also means songs in Arabic just as Psalms means Songs in Greek. Funny enough, the original names given to the compilation of David's songs is Mizrom in Hebrew. It was when the Septuagint was written that Psalms was adopted. So how come the Qur'an adopts the transliteration of the exact names the Jews gave those books but cannot give a name to Abraham’s so-called book nor that of Noah. Simple answer: it was basically copying Jewish stories. If it was a revelation as claimed by Muhammad, it would have been able to give the names of the books of Abraham and Noah which are unknown to the Jews and Christians. It's same reason the Qur'an claims prophets were sent to every nation but it couldn't name the prophets sent to the Chinese, Greeks, Ethiopians, Egyptians, Persians, Austrians, Greeks etc because of course the Bible it was copying from didn't have those names. So it left a vacuum in its knowledge and exposition. A strange thing for a so-called revelation which is meant to reveal what was hidden! Muhammad's revelation by contrast to every logic only reveals what's already known. Very funny


You are the one relying on the Bible. How do i change mouth Islamically when talking about your Bible? You need to keep your thought process in check! If i am Islamical then i am. If you are talking about your Bible then don't expect me to be Islamical. The Islamic belief about Noah is not the same as your Bible. Noah was the first messenger while Adam the first Prophet in Islam.
The point is you're unstable. You claimed Noah was sent as a prophet to those who believed him. I pointed out to you that only his family members believed him. You insist those are the people he was sent to. You forget that your quran says prophets were sent to nations not to their families. By your claim and your quran, Noah was sent only to his family which is when you shifted to go hide under quranic account. The problem as usual is that details of Noah already existed before the Qur'an revelation. Again, his so-called book has no name. Noah converted few people along with his family to Islam according to the Qur'an and these were the only remaining people on the earth but it's surprising that by the time Muhammad was born no one heard of anything called Islam. Isn't it strange that the religion of the whole earth and the book given to them suddenly disappeared without trace until Muhammad came with his revelation?

This your words are too much. How about you show us where they are in the Bible?

Surah Aal Imran 3:19
“Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam.”

Surah Aal Imran 3:85
“And whoever desires other than Islam as religion—never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.”
These are Bible verses for Christian, church, Judaism and custom of the Jews

Acts 11 :26And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

1 Pet4: 16Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.

Revelation1: 4John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:

John19: 40Then they took the body of Jesus, and bound it in strips of linen with the spices, as the custom of the Jews is to bury

Galatians1: 13For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering:
TV01:
Ok, we'll work with your definition. Please show with evidence from your texts exactly what this "purifying action" is, how it works or is applied...
By constantly remembering God in all his inactions and actions. Thus he attained to the highest level of closeness to God and he was, as a result, granted a visit to witness Divine Presence in heaven while he was alive as a human being as declared by the holy Qur'an:


Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of Our signs. Indeed, He alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.

Qur'an 17:1


Then he approached and came closer, and was at a distance of two bow-lengths or even closer

Qur'an 53:9

No other prophet of God has attained this status in their prophetic missions according to Islam.


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What does it mean to be at the "pinnacle" of this state of holiness? How, and since when did he attain to this state?. The ee.slam.c texts clearly show he was a sinner and required forgiveness. Words he himself uttered....
Being at the pinnacle of spiritual state attainable by mankind means he has, by this constant remembrance of God and making God his central focus in all he does, attained such a spiritual status that saw him transcend all the heavenly bounds attainable by men and prophets and angels to the point that only God Almighty can speak of.


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The ee.slam.c texts clearly show he was a sinner and required forgiveness. Words he himself uttered....
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Again, his own words declared him to be a man like other men. How was he created or "configured to live" that sets him apart and above other men. ..
Allahu ta'ala has never declared the Prophet Muhammad a sinner neither has he ever declared himself a sinner. Rather he operates within the guard rail of always seeking forgiveness from God as an act of supreme humility, gratitude, and a way to teach the Muslim community the best practice to approach God to purify your deeds or to seek forgiveness. One cannot claim goodness before God. Rather you protect your good works by asking forgiveness from God for your shortcomings even if your ways are pure. Thereafter He will raise you in ranks, status and influence because of your unblemished good works.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by GreenCovering: 10:36am On Oct 18
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If your book claims this, then your god is not a good one.
Such man cannot be a source of spiritual light for humanity. This reminds me of the friends of the pro fet such as Ms Baba, Christian prince, David wood etc. what they tell us about this man is opposite of excellent example..
You have not made any fact based statement here, just tantrums. Anyway, that's what you get when you take content creators as your source of inspiration.
Re: Overpraising The Prophet ﷺ In Islam! by INJESUSNAME: 12:57pm On Oct 18
GreenCovering:
You have not made any fact based statement here, just tantrums. Anyway, that's what you get when you take content creators as your source of inspiration.
I thought you had substance, just another.....
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