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Truthseeker10:
So why is TB not genuine but the rest you mentioned genuine?

Mat 7:16 KJV Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

deltateam:
Why do you say TB isn't genuine despite his impact?

Mat 7:16 KJV Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Kingosytex:
I don't really know about others, but Pst Chris has been an ardent teacher. Man stays very far away from controversy.

He's become more matured in the past years, apart from some funny predictions and takes. He grew his ministry by controversy. Now we have many such preachers around like Damina and co, he's toned down seriously.

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Mat 7:16 KJV Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Explain...what is the fruit of TB Joshua in contrast with the rest pastors that you mentioned?

At least the have done what they could as their capacity and understanding can carry. May be you should start your own and change the paradigm.

Back in the early 90s while I was in high school,
My mom took us to one church like that.
Na fat time nikka burger clothing dey reign,
My mow sew one for me, the pastor wan pray for me the war he prayed for others buy throwing u on the floor to claim he is sending evil spirit away,
I shout eh?! For my mind, u want make I dirty this my new nikka burger because u wan pray,I refused to touch ground like every other person in that church, the man later told my mom say I get evil spirit, he was lucky I was still very young then, if na now, na for hospital dem for cure his evil spirit,

All Nigeria pastors are guilty of all the categories mentioned here. They are all a big shame to Christianity.

mactoni91:
Are you scared to Mention Adeboye, Oyedepo and their likes?

I don't see anything bad in what these pastors are preaching. I have attended the WOFBI of Living Faith, practical, not giving to things that are not achievable or emotional therapy. Of the things taught are carefully followed, results are sure.
I attended RCBC of the RCCG too among others looking for knowledge. It is a pure theology school geared towards evangeism and relationship with God on personal level.
That any man of God should preach as someone else's expectation has not and is not the way of Christianity.

While one believes in developing quality of life and their books and messages show that; the other talks of walking with God and agree I've expansion of ministry.

In Living Faith, you hardly hear prophecy or anything like that. I have noticed any myself. RCCG, yes, some prophetic utterances. Those days they were more direct but now coded for some reasons.

Then, association is more of choice than compulsion. These people have followers across every tribe, stratum of the society and even nations and continents. So, destroying Nigeria is overstatement. Why have they not destroyed other nations?

Nigeria has its own problems that are political and only government can solve that. Politics itself is a market with all kinds of wares and marketers. That a particular person can influence is not feasible. Most Christians run away from politics. If you see political field, most contesters are Muslims in places where they have representation. Putting blame on these men of God is not the best. Most of these blames come from Christians themselves.

There is one who condemns many teachings of other men of God, but wants people to accept his: Pst Abel Damini.

Truthseeker10:
Explain...what is the fruit of TB Joshua in contrast with the rest pastors that you mentioned?

Zero fruit.

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Zero fruit.

What is the fruit of the rest?

Johnboom:
Christianity is not a white man religion. Ethiopia received Gospel long before America and most European nations. Stop spreading false with boldness.

The Christianity that you practice today in your personal life does it resemble anything close to the Ethiopian orthodox one? You are a product of European colonial religion and values. Accept that you are enslaved

Racoon:
https://www.facebook.com/share/1KCw4gypQ9/

This is a senseless post. Ask yourself this question, the Sunday Adelaja that you referenced, where is he now?

Dogalmighty17:
Christianity is a sham. Take it or leave it.
I am not a supporter of Tinubu but you see the collapse of the naira? It didn't start with him.

We forget that before the 2015 general elections, president Jonathan was going around the country visiting prominent men of God to get them to solicit votes on his behalf. The one in Ota even exclaimed that he will open the gates of hell against Jonathan's enemies. Jonathan was at Dunamis, RCCG, Chosen and Deeper life as well. Not one of them could tell him the truth of how much of a failure he was.

Only Rev. Fr. Mbaka was bold enough to constantly address Jonathan for his misrule. Or have we forgotten the scandal that implicated CAN and the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria? Where Jonathan's NSA sent them millions of dollars? Only the catholic bishops conference of Nigeria rejected that money. Few months later, the jet of the then CAN chairman was impounded in South Africa with millions of dollars. The money was claimed to be for purchase of weapons. No one in Nigeria's security architecture knew that a private jet belonging to an individual was going to be used to ferry weapons. It was all lies.
No document existed validating that sale. The money was being laundered. After considerable pressure, South Africa dropped the case.

Let's not also forget that the GOs of these mega churches were openly celebrating Jonathan when he signed Nigeria's anti-gay law into effect. I felt uncomfortable with that level of government overeach. If government starts targeting people for their sexual inclinations, what's to stop another government from targeting people for their religious beliefs? The same GOs are the ones screaming that their is an Islamisation agenda today because of a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

Christianity is nothing but a fraud and nothing but a vehicle for hate. We all saw how Donald Trump recognised Christians for what they are and channeled their hate into a political movement. They remain his strongest supporters today. A man who is a living personification of the 7 deadly sins.

Said so many things and ended up passing zero message. Nonsense talk. The same father mbaka that said buhari is our messiah?...
Get out of here my friend

Nothing wrong with Christianity, Nigerian denominational heads bastardize it with their greed and love for mammoth and enslaving their followers using 48 Laws of Power instead of The Bible, it is now casting.
Jesus is not happy.

Dogalmighty17:
Christianity is a sham. Take it or leave it.
I am not a supporter of Tinubu but you see the collapse of the naira? It didn't start with him.

We forget that before the 2015 general elections, president Jonathan was going around the country visiting prominent men of God to get them to solicit votes on his behalf. The one in Ota even exclaimed that he will open the gates of hell against Jonathan's enemies. Jonathan was at Dunamis, RCCG, Chosen and Deeper life as well. Not one of them could tell him the truth of how much of a failure he was.

Only Rev. Fr. Mbaka was bold enough to constantly address Jonathan for his misrule. Or have we forgotten the scandal that implicated CAN and the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria? Where Jonathan's NSA sent them millions of dollars? Only the catholic bishops conference of Nigeria rejected that money. Few months later, the jet of the then CAN chairman was impounded in South Africa with millions of dollars. The money was claimed to be for purchase of weapons. No one in Nigeria's security architecture knew that a private jet belonging to an individual was going to be used to ferry weapons. It was all lies.
No document existed validating that sale. The money was being laundered. After considerable pressure, South Africa dropped the case.

Let's not also forget that the GOs of these mega churches were openly celebrating Jonathan when he signed Nigeria's anti-gay law into effect. I felt uncomfortable with that level of government overeach. If government starts targeting people for their sexual inclinations, what's to stop another government from targeting people for their religious beliefs? The same GOs are the ones screaming that their is an Islamisation agenda today because of a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

Christianity is nothing but a fraud and nothing but a vehicle for hate. We all saw how Donald Trump recognised Christians for what they are and channeled their hate into a political movement. They remain his strongest supporters today. A man who is a living personification of the 7 deadly sins.

Adeboye and Kumuyi should be at the top of the list, followed by Lazarus Muoka. Over 99% of Nigerian pastors are career businessmen.

Burob:
Between them & Obidients, it is hard to identify who is worse of a sham

Keep mentioning Obi


Even Your old man wished to be like Obi

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Racoon:
https://www.facebook.com/share/1KCw4gypQ9/

Keep attacking pastors as if they are Ur government

Roger3D:
It"s the white man"s religion crafted in his culture and you are his thing. You look up to him as your superior and so you do everything he sanctions. Have you ever lived with white people?

B4 are they not superior?

dannex4adx:
This is a senseless post. Ask yourself this question, the Sunday Adelaja that you referenced, where is he now?

Sunday Adelaja is no yardstick for measuring Christianity. The message is clear and the question is, why are we so religious but morally bankrupt? If your religion cannot impact your society, then you are doing something wrong.

Nnamdipapa:
Adeboye and Kumuyi should be at the top of the list, followed by Lazarus Muoka. Over 99% of Nigerian pastors are career businessmen.

I pity you..
Watch out what will happen to you before the dawn of tmoro except you repent and delete this ur post

That's an advice..but u can dare it..watch out for what will happen before dawn tmoro

Roger3D:
The Christianity that you practice today in your personal life does it resemble anything close to the Ethiopian orthodox one? You are a product of European colonial religion and values. Accept that you are enslaved

If your ancestors had encountered Jesus, they would have been converted. They tried to find God , but lack the knowledge. The God of the Christians is not a Jewish nor European God. He is the creator of the universe. And He has revealed His will and the way through His son Jesus Christ. Accept Him today!

mactoni91:
Are you scared of Mentioning Adeboye, Oyedepo and their likes?

I wonder for the OP ooo .

Nigeria is almost split in half across religious lines, but hey, blame the Christians and Pastors for the problem of the country.

Very ridiculous!

Insectkiller:
I pity you..
Watch out what will happen to you before the dawn of tmoro except you repent and delete this ur post

That's an advice..but u can dare it..watch out for what will happen before dawn tmoro

Obatala loves you, Repent and accept obatala before the dawn of tommorow.

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Pastor Oyakhilome, TB Joshua if we can call him pastor. Pastor Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo.
That's about the Pentecostal arm though. The catholic and orthodox arm have long gone to the dogs.
My post isn't to judge anyone of them. They've all been very useful and instrumental in the cause of Christ, and i dare say that they are all genuine servants of God, except of course TB.
Oyakhilome, Adeboye and Oyedepo had and still have enormous influence on those people that are dragging Christ on the floor. Their attitude and silence hasn't been very encouraging.

so how has u lifted christ up if those ones are dragging him on the floor

MrPresident1:
expert234, have you read this thread?

The only thing that can save you from madness is to accept the light of Islam

Please, how can Islam save me from madness when another name for Islam is Mental Disorder?!

The Op is the Man without sin All his Life. Congratulations

it can surely save you from madness when you sift the wheat from the chaff. So accept Islam, forget about the shenanigans, and rid yourself of madness

expert234:
Please, how can Islam save me from madness when another name for Islam is Mental Disorder?!

MrPresident1:
it can surely save you from madness when you sift the wheat from the chaff. So accept Islam, forget about the shenanigans, and rid yourself of madness

After sifting the wheat from the shaft, I discovered that another name for Islam is Mental Disorder.

So, I ask again; how can Islam save me from madness when another name for Islam is Mental Disorder?!