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I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 4:58pm On Oct 19

WHAT IF GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE THE SAME BEING?

Christians believe that God and the Devil are enemies. God represents good, while the Devil represents evil. The Devil may try to frustrate God's plans, but God is more powerful and will eventually defeat him.

However, when I read the Bible, I see something different.

1. THE DEVIL IN GOD'S PRESENCE

In Job 1:6-12, Satan appears before God, and they have a conversation. Satan questions Job's faithfulness, and God permits him to test Job.

This is the same Devil Christians claim was cast out of heaven for rebelling against God. Yet, in the story of Job, he enters through the pearly gates, appears before God and discusses a man's fate with him over brunch.

The supposed enemy of God, the father of sin, has access to God's presence, and God permits him to inflict suffering on an innocent man.

2. WHEN GOD DOES IT, IT IS A TEST. WHEN THE DEVIL DOES IT, IT IS TEMPTATION.

The Spirit led Jesus Christ into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil (Matthew 4:1). We also see in Genesis 22:1 that God tested Abraham.

Notice the distinction: when God does it, it is called a test; when the Devil does it, it is called temptation.

Isaiah 45:7 says that God creates light and darkness, peace and calamity. Amos 3:6 also presents disaster as something that does not occur independently of the LORD.

The distinction is quite convenient. When God brings suffering, it is part of his plan. When the Devil does something similar, it is evidence of his wickedness.

The Bible itself attributes actions associated with evil and destruction to God, while also presenting Satan as an agent of similar actions.

3. THE DEVIL'S REBELLION AND THE IRONY OF HELL

Revelation 12:4 describes the dragon sweeping away a third of the stars of heaven, while verses 7-9 describe the war in heaven and the dragon's expulsion.

The traditional Christian interpretation presents this as Satan's rebellion against God.

This means the Devil was powerful enough to lead a multitude of heavenly beings into rebellion, yet Christians imagine him spending eternity punishing human beings for their own rebellion against God.

The irony is difficult to miss. The Devil himself is condemned for rebellion, but the popular Christian imagination turns him into the chief tormentor of other rebels. I think Satan is reasonable enough to organise a fiesta with his fellow rebels instead of judging them for the same rebellion of his.

Revelation 20:10, however, describes the Devil being thrown into the lake of fire. He is a victim of punishment there, not its ruler.

4. GOD AND THE DEVIL AS TWO FACES OF THE SAME POWER

In 2 Samuel 24:1, God incites David to conduct a census. But in 1 Chronicles 21:1, Satan is the one who incites David to do the same thing.

The same event. Two different interchangeable agents.

The relationship between God and the Devil is not as straightforward as Christians make it appear.

The biblical stories of Job and David's census reinforce this problem. God and Satan are presented as distinct agents, yet their actions and responsibilities sometimes overlap.

I see the possibility that God and the Devil are two faces of the same power: one representing the good attributed to the deity, the other carrying the blame for its darker side.

I am not claiming that the Bible explicitly says they are one being. I am drawing a conclusion from the way the biblical narrative distributes responsibility for good, evil, suffering, and destruction.

5. THE DEVIL COULD BE FEMALE

Christians speak of God the Father and God the Son, but no divine wife is recognised in Christian theology.

The Devil is also commonly imagined as male, even though the biblical texts do not establish that Satan is God's wife or explicitly identify Satan as female, it hints art. How beautiful she was made - _{Ever seen a woman preparing to attend a function?} grin

.

My speculation is that the rebellious figure in this cosmic story could just as easily be imagined as female. A female figure refusing to submit to a supreme authority would not only challenge the authority of a powerful male God but also make him seem less untouchable. Perhaps Satan was made male to give God a worthy opponent, rather than a female challenger whose rebellion might expose the absurdity of a supreme male authority being threatened by a woman.

It makes little sense to have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, but no God the Mother. It should be God the Father, God the Mother, and God the Son.

What I find amusing is that the creator of an all-male heaven understood that Adam needed a female companion, yet somehow managed to have a Son without a woman in heaven. Perhaps that explains all the heavenly anger. 😂 Maybe Jesus spent those three days in the grave negotiating with his mother, begging her to return home with him to heaven, but as a feminist she was still too angry to come back. 😂

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 5:23pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
WHAT IF GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE THE SAME BEING?

No need to what if. It is already clear that they are not the same.

God always does good and devil always does evil as Job and others have shown

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Odin13: 5:33pm On Oct 19

Your weed is strong ..

Taint with Kai Kai on colos..

Enjoy

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 5:34pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
1. THE DEVIL IN GOD'S PRESENCE

In Job 1:6-12, Satan appears before God, and they have a conversation. Satan questions Job's faithfulness, and God permits him to test Job...

Since when did it become a bad thing to answer the King when He calls? Only a F would not answer and satan is not a fool.

Plus, because of your ev mind, you did not see that it was God Who was so proud of Job, like a very happy and elated Father, that He boasted with him and used him to put Satan to shame.

"Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?"

Unlike yu and satan who house evl

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 5:44pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
2. WHEN GOD DOES IT, IT IS A TEST. WHEN THE DEVIL DOES IT, IT IS TEMPTATION.

The Spirit led Jesus Christ into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil (Matthew 4:1). We also see in Genesis 22:1 that God tested Abraham.

Notice the distinction: when God does it, it is called a test; when the Devil does it, it is called temptation.

Isaiah 45:7 says that God creates light and darkness,
peace and calamity. Amos 3:6 also presents disaster as something that does not occur independently of the LORD.

Before nko?
When your wife travels, is it not good, but when your side ysh travels, it is runs

Besides, it is clear that God took Him to pray and we see that it is the devil who came to push Him down into falling and offending God.

And doctors would tell you that creating a bad thing is not wrong or evil but that even using a good thing wrongfully is the evil eg drinking medicine wrongfully.

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 5:52pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
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3. THE DEVIL'S REBELLION AND THE IRONY OF HELL

This means the Devil was powerful enough to lead a multitude of heavenly beings into rebellion, yet Christians imagine him spending eternity punishing human beings for their own rebellion against God.

The irony is difficult to miss. The Devil himself is condemned for rebellion, but the popular Christian imagination turns him into the chief tormentor of other rebels..

See, when they say you should read for yourself, you don't meanwhile you believe hearsay and liars (Catholic church) meanwhile the Bible clearly Said that Satan is also punished with fire.

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by FayaBall: 5:58pm On Oct 19

Many threads have dealt with this shiiiittts before, why disturb us?

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 6:04pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
4. GOD AND THE DEVIL AS TWO FACES OF THE SAME POWER

In 2 Samuel 24:1, God incites David to conduct a census. But in 1 Chronicles 21:1, Satan is the one who incites David to do the same thing.

Job has shown you that when God removes His Hand, satan can move to do the evil he always wants to do.

So you are talking rubbish

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by vdestro: 6:58pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
WHAT IF GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE THE SAME BEING?

Christians believe that God and the Devil are enemies. God represents good, while the Devil represents evil. The Devil may try to frustrate God's plans, but God is more powerful and will eventually defeat him.

However, when I read the Bible, I see something different.

But if course how shall you see any different being who you are

Roycemadeit:
1. THE DEVIL IN GOD'S PRESENCE

In Job 1:6-12, Satan appears before God, and they have a conversation. Satan questions Job's faithfulness, and God permits him to test Job.

This is the same Devil Christians claim was cast out of heaven for rebelling against God. Yet, in the story of Job, he enters through the pearly gates, appears before God and discusses a man's fate with him over brunch.

The supposed enemy of God, the father of sin, has access to God's presence, and God permits him to inflict suffering on an innocent man.

See person eye, I no talk am?

The Bible said the sons of God came before God and Satan came too, you turned it to brunch, see am?

Then everyone knows the story. God being pleased with Job praised and boasted about Job. Satan said he would defeat Job if God withdrew His protection. God knowing his man Job said he should go ahead and we saw Job defeat Satan proving God right.

So it is clear that God did no wrong but rather Satan is the eve I'll-l one.

Then of course, even this your example shows who you are, as it is even a good example showing us how God and Satan are clearly different people and not the same as you said.

Roycemadeit:
2. WHEN GOD DOES IT, IT IS A TEST. WHEN THE DEVIL DOES IT, IT IS TEMPTATION.

The Spirit led Jesus Christ into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil (Matthew 4:1). We also see in Genesis 22:1 that God tested Abraham.

Notice the distinction: when God does it, it is called a test; when the Devil does it, it is called temptation.

Isaiah 45:7 says that God creates light and darkness, peace and calamity. Amos 3:6 also presents disaster as something that does not occur independently of the LORD.

The distinction is quite convenient. When God brings suffering, it is part of his plan. When the Devil does something similar, it is evidence of his wickedness.

The Bible itself attributes actions associated with evil and destruction to God, while also presenting Satan as an agent of similar actions.

The difference between God and Satan is always very clear.

For we can see God's own is certainly a test meant in good faith of which He tests only after he knows you ought to pass and it's not different from what teachers do and no one calls that eve I'll-l but see Satan when he comes it always at your weak and weakest point.

See how Jesus was very weak after fasting 40 days and nights that is when Satan comes hence why his own is eve I'll-l and will always be bent on making you fall exactly your intent.

So you see even this your example is against you because it doesn't show they are the same but rather very different people.

Roycemadeit:
3. THE DEVIL'S REBELLION AND THE IRONY OF HELL

Revelation 12:4 describes the dragon sweeping away a third of the stars of heaven, while verses 7-9 describe the war in heaven and the dragon's expulsion.

The traditional Christian interpretation presents this as Satan's rebellion against God.

This means the Devil was powerful enough to lead a multitude of heavenly beings into rebellion, yet Christians imagine him spending eternity punishing human beings for their own rebellion against God.

The irony is difficult to miss. The Devil himself is condemned for rebellion, but the popular Christian imagination turns him into the chief tormentor of other rebels. I think Satan is reasonable enough to organise a fiesta with his fellow rebels instead of judging them for the same rebellion of his.

Revelation 20:10, however, describes the Devil being thrown into the lake of fire. He is a victim of punishment there, not its ruler.

Now you have gone to wishing reasonability upon someone who attacks an innocent person who just finished fasting and who attacked Job simply because he loved and obeyed God.

Funny. What a wishful thinking and hope since you know him and you shall be there together.

This is even outside the fact that this is off topic.

Roycemadeit:
4. GOD AND THE DEVIL AS TWO FACES OF THE SAME POWER

In 2 Samuel 24:1, God incites David to conduct a census. But in 1 Chronicles 21:1, Satan is the one who incites David to do the same thing.

The same event. Two different interchangeable agents.

The relationship between God and the Devil is not as straightforward as Christians make it appear.

The biblical stories of Job and David's census reinforce this problem. God and Satan are presented as distinct agents, yet their actions and responsibilities sometimes overlap.

I see the possibility that God and the Devil are two faces of the same power: one representing the good attributed to the deity, the other carrying the blame for its darker side.

I am not claiming that the Bible explicitly says they are one being. I am drawing a conclusion from the way the biblical narrative distributes responsibility for good, evil, suffering, and destruction.

Of course who does not understand that God does not do eve I'll-l. It is Satan who does!

So the Chronicles is simply showing that the actual doer of the eve I'll-l is Satan and not God.

So once again showing you the clear difference between them

So once again you nothing for you.

Roycemadeit:
5. THE DEVIL COULD BE FEMALE

Christians speak of God the Father and God the Son, but no divine wife is recognised in Christian theology.

The Devil is also commonly imagined as male, even though the biblical texts do not establish that Satan is God's wife or explicitly identify Satan as female, it hints art. How beautiful she was made - _{Ever seen a woman preparing to attend a function?}.

My speculation is that the rebellious figure in this cosmic story could just as easily be imagined as female. A female figure refusing to submit to a supreme authority would not only challenge the authority of a powerful male God but also make him seem less untouchable. Perhaps Satan was made male to give God a worthy opponent, rather than a female challenger whose rebellion might expose the absurdity of a supreme male authority being threatened by a woman.

It makes little sense to have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, but no God the Mother. It should be God the Father, God the Mother, and God the Son.

What I find amusing is that the creator of an all-male heaven understood that Adam needed a female companion, yet somehow managed to have a Son without a woman in heaven. Perhaps that explains all the heavenly anger. 😂 Maybe Jesus spent those three days in the grave negotiating with his mother, begging her to return home with him to heaven, but as a feminist she was still too angry to come back. 😂

See am who cares whether Satan is male or female we all know who it is that is a very very very eve I'll-l. Shikena!

Then you have started your usual assumptions and conjectures as is your thing and wishful thinking meaning you have nothing to say.

So clearly God and Satan are not and can never be the same!

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20pm On Oct 19

Odin13:
Your weed is strong ..
Taint with Kai Kai on colos..
Enjoy.

Ever since i destroyed all his useless arguments against faith in God he has become a preacher seeking ways to convince himself that atheism makes sense!😂

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 7:50pm On Oct 19

Dtruthspeaker:
No need to what if. It is already clear that they are not the same.

God always does good and devil always does evil as Job and others have shown

I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 7:53pm On Oct 19

Dtruthspeaker:
Since when did it become a bad thing to answer the King when He calls? Only a F would not answer and satan is not a fool.

Plus, because of your ev mind, you did not see that it was God Who was so proud of Job, like a very happy and elated Father, that He boasted with him and used him to put Satan to shame.

"Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?"

Unlike yu and satan who house evl

These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren. BUT THE KING CALLED UPON THE PERSONALITY THAT ALL OF THESE QUALITIES THAT GOD HATES 😂

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 7:55pm On Oct 19

Dtruthspeaker:
Before nko?
When your wife travels, is it not good, but when your side ysh travels, it is runs

Besides, it is clear that God took Him to pray and we see that it is the devil who came to push Him down into falling and offending God.

And doctors would tell you that creating a bad thing is not wrong or evil but that even using a good thing wrongfully is the evil eg drinking medicine wrongfully.

.
.Na plan work... God's spirit lead am into the wilderness then called devil and says, "Oya, tempt am or na test they use.... God tests, Satan tempts

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 9:28pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
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5. THE DEVIL COULD BE FEMALE

Christians speak of God the Father and God the Son, but no divine wife is recognised in Christian theology.

Because you know about female and wife, you now think that God must be like you? So, if you were a mannequin made from rubber you would now think that your creator's skin is made of rubber.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
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.Na plan work... God's spirit lead am into the wilderness then called devil and says, "Oya, tempt am or na test they use.... God tests, Satan tempts

And this make sense to you? You are clearly losing it.

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:
These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren. BUT THE KING CALLED UPON THE PERSONALITY THAT ALL OF THESE QUALITIES THAT GOD HATES 😂

Is it not His Right to call anybody?

It's like you are going Ma.....

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10pm On Oct 19

Roycemadeit:

I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things

Doctors would tell you that creating a bad thing is not wrong or evil, eg acids, detergents, electricity but that even using a good thing wrongfully is the evil eg drinking medicine wrongfully.

So, nothing wrong here

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 10:26pm On Oct 19

Another stu... thread coming antichrist.

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." Matthew 24:11 & 24

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 10:41am On Oct 20

vdestro:
...Funny. What a wishful thinking and hope since you know him and you shall be there together..

Wait ooo.

Wait oo na im plan be dis?

Dat na why hin dey do this campaign?

Ewooo! This explains it.

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by vdestro: 2:56pm On Oct 20

Dtruthspeaker:
Wait ooo.

Wait oo na im plan be dis?

Dat na why hin dey do this campaign?

Ewooo! This explains it.

Na im ooo. You don see am ba?

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 6:00pm On Oct 20

Dtruthspeaker:
Because you know about female and wife, you now think that God must be like you? So, if you were a mannequin made from rubber you would now think that your creator's skin is made of rubber.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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What makes God male? Is it not Manhood

Or should I say Godhood grin

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 6:16pm On Oct 20

Roycemadeit:
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What makes God male? Is it not Manhood

Or should I say Godhood

How preposterous and silly who said God is male?

Again a dimm mannequin made from rubber thinking your creator's skin is made of rubber.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 6:36pm On Oct 20

Dtruthspeaker:
How preposterous and silly who said God is male?

Again a dimm mannequin made from rubber thinking your creator's skin is made of rubber.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Our father is now our mother

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 6:42pm On Oct 20

Roycemadeit:

Our father is now our mother

So children raised by their fathers alone, such fathers are now women?
You obviously have 🧠 Kansas grin

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 9:12am On Oct 21

Dtruthspeaker:
So children raised by their fathers alone, such fathers are now women?
You obviously have 🧠 Kansas

So, children need mothers too? I thought the son of God, was conceived, carried to term and birth by his father.

If the Son has a Father, where is the Mother? You cannot keep calling him Father and his offspring Son, then act surprised when someone asks about the missing woman in this divine family. 😂

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 1:38pm On Oct 22

Roycemadeit:
]So, children need mothers too? I thought the son of God, was conceived, carried to term and birth by his father.

🧠 Kansas have kwashiorkord your reasoning. You implied that children must have mothers now I have corrected you, you now turned the gun to your own head.

What a phuuuuuuunibu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Roycemadeit(op): 2:59pm On Oct 22*

Dtruthspeaker:
🧠 Kansas have kwashiorkord your reasoning. You implied that children must have mothers now I have corrected you, you now turned the gun to your own head.

What a phuuuuuuunibu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

it's obvious that you lack comprehension. If God is father and has a child, a son isn't that gender-based? If I said, "I prayed to God and she answered me," would you not think I'm a pagan?

Una reasoning na noodles seasoning

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Re: I Will Soon Open Church, Abel Damina Can't Be Only True Prophet by Dtruthspeaker: 7:55pm On Oct 22*

Roycemadeit:
it's obvious that you lack comprehension. If God is father and has a child, a son isn't that gender-based? If I said I pray to God and she answered me would you not think I'm a pagan... Una reasoning na noodles seasoning

Is gender not the class and material used to create you like plastic is to your mannequin? Yes!

So, because you have been gendered, so God too is gendered? Yet, if your mannequin says you are plasticd and rubberd it is true, abi.

See why I said yu 🧠 is Arkansas

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