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Hehe. Nathan learned his lesson from bukola in this topic and he can spot the weird lying ones from a mile away now.

Check topic for context if you care too....😀

https://www.nairaland.com/8712738/how-evil-some-nigerians

Notice how many times from the start he told her to "feck off" then she claims she rejected him 😀

Her naijaplanet account and as you can see from the way she talks to people and cannot accept "no" and "feck off" its all a complete lie. Well thats not unusual for this nationality. Infact you are world famous for being one of the most arrogant and narcissistic countries on earth. 😀

And the amount of pork pies a Nigerian tells daily is unreal and unhinged.

Shes also wrong. Christ never loved the church he was Jewish. And churches were not established until after him.

Seriously. How do you lot think up this nonsense? Claim to believe in a specific religion and know nothing about it.

lindqvistbergst:
Her naijaplanet account and as you can see from the way she talks to people and cannot accept "no" and "feck off" its all a complete lie. Well thats not unusual for this nationality. Infact you are world famous for being one of the most arrogant and narcissistic countries on earth. 😀

And the amount of pork pies a Nigerian tells daily is unreal and unhinged.

Mr. Brain fart, how many Nigerians have you had personal encounters with? You're fond of making generalizations about a whole nation. Are you aware there are more than 230+ million Nigerians? Maybe even more if you count those in diaspora.

Stephen0mozzy:
Mr. Brain fart, how many Nigerians have you had personal encounters with? You're fond of making generalizations about a whole nation. Are you aware there are more than 230+ million Nigerians? Maybe even more if you count those in diaspora.

Its not my conversation I just think its funny. And fyi.

1) no Nigerian has diaspora.

Choosing to apply for a visa.
Choosing to book a flight.
Choosing to get on that flight.
For a better life and better opportunities.

Makes you an economic migrant not a victim with diaspora. Nigeria still exists. You can choose to get a flight back.

2) been around you for decades. There are millions of you invading other countries where the "locals" dont want you. The government are forcing you on the locals. And also lived in Nigeria for 12 years.

Try again. How many Scandinavians have you met chavvy?

And 3) more like 242+ million in the country. You tend to breed like rabbits and make kids you cant afford and sell them at marriage time.

Oh....Stephen0mozzy......

Seems you tried saying some "no, no hurty words" and got a ban. I hope the time out in the sin bin makes you calm down and accept documented facts are just documented facts.

lindqvistbergst:
Shes also wrong. Christ never loved the church he was Jewish. And churches were not established until after him.

Seriously. How do you lot think up this nonsense? Claim to believe in a specific religion and know nothing about it.

Christ never loved the Church? Why do you need to show how intellectually slow you turned out.

erniok:
Christ never loved the Church? Why do you need to show how intellectually slow you turned out.

Jesus was a jew. He loved the Jewish temple not Christian Churches.

He was a jew. He would not celebrate anything Christian. The bible is very very clear on that. So you obviously have not read it yourself. Just listen to a pastor cherry pick.

Thats intellectually slow.

Stephen0mozzy:

No. Just the ones like you fella. My misses is Nigerian and she's amazing. I know in a population of 242 million. A few million are amazing people.

Its just most.
The majority
Almost all but not quite all. Are highly documented to be fairly evil.

You cannot even obey simple constitutional laws. Or the marriage act.

lindqvistbergst:
No. Just the ones like you fella. My misses is Nigerian and she's amazing. I know in a population of 242 million. A few million are amazing people.

Its just most.
The majority
Almost all but not quite all. Are highly documented to be fairly evil.

You cannot even obey simple constitutional laws. Or the marriage act.

Now imagine me saying all Scandinavians can't spell jack, JUST because you spelt "Missus" (which you intended) as "Misses".

I hold no argument that there are some unpleasant Nigerians, but to always bash a whole nation because of those few, I think it's just a sad show of being slow.

lindqvistbergst:
Jesus was a jew. He loved the Jewish temple not Christian Churches.

He was a jew. He would not celebrate anything Christian. The bible is very very clear on that. So you obviously have not read it yourself. Just listen to a pastor cherry pick.

Thats intellectually slow.

Obviously, you've never read John 17 but would havesuch warped opinion. Paul that preached christ to the gentiles was what again.

erniok:
Obviously, you've never read John 17 but would havesuch warped opinion. Paul that preached christ to the gentiles was what again.

And where is that jesus rejecting his religion to love another one?
He said love your neighbour but he did not say that he loves a religion that didn't exist until after him. And you are quoting that bible and things that were written after him.

Narcissistic and arrogant much?

erniok:
Obviously, you've never read John 17 but would havesuch warped opinion. Paul that preached christ to the gentiles was what again.

Melt....

1) Ephesians 5:25 says Christ loved the church and gave himself up for it. Paul wrote that line to husbands, telling them to love their wives the way Christ loved the church. That’s Paul or a Paul follower writing decades after the crucifixion, so it’s the early church telling you what Jesus felt, not Jesus saying it himself.

Understand. Nowhere did jesus a jew say he loved the church. Its other people talking after his death.

2) The only time Jesus himself mentions it is Matthew 16:18, where he says he will build his church. The Greek there is ekklesia. Notice the future tense. He talks about it as something that doesn’t exist yet, so you’re wrong on that point. There is no verse where Jesus says “I love the church” while it’s standing in front of him, because there wasn’t one.

3) Ekklesia just means assembly, and the Greek Old Testament used the same word for Israel’s gathering, so a Jewish teacher saying it wouldn’t automatically mean a new religion. And as far as I know, a lot of critical scholars doubt Jesus said Matthew 16:18 at all, partly because Matthew is the only gospel that uses the word, and he uses it twice.

4) A believer will say Ephesians counts because Paul was inspired, so what Paul wrote is what Jesus felt. That’s a faith argument rather than a textual one, and it’s a fair gap to point out, because you’re asking what the text records Jesus saying, not what later writers claimed on his behalf.

Jesus could not love a church that never existed at the time.

Why is it that only an atheist actually reads the bloody text. And 🤮 ive read the quran as well. The bible is a better story. Less sexual assault in it.

erniok:
Obviously, you've never read John 17 but would havesuch warped opinion. Paul that preached christ to the gentiles was what again.

And melt.....😂.

The whole New Testament survives in Greek, but Jesus most likely spoke Aramaic day to day, with Hebrew for scripture and synagogue. That means even Matthew 16:18 is a Greek translation of something he probably said in Aramaic, so nobody has his exact words.

Now the Greek. In Matthew 16:18 the word is ekklesia, and Ephesians 5:25 uses the same word with the verb agapao, the strong self giving kind of love. The Greek in Ephesians is solid, no translation trick softening it. Paul really wrote that Christ loved the church. (Paul after the crucifixion. So jesus never claimed to love the church)

The interesting bit is ekklesia itself. It was an ordinary Greek word for a citizen assembly, a town meeting where people gathered to decide things. It has nothing religious baked into it. The Greek Old Testament, the Septuagint, used it to translate the Hebrew qahal, meaning the assembled congregation of Israel. So when Jesus or Matthew says ekklesia, a Jewish ear would hear the gathered people of God, not a new institution with buildings and bishops.

And his own religion had no word for church. Jewish gatherings were the synagogue, the sunagoge, which is also just Greek for a gathering. The word that became church is Paul’s world, Greek speaking cities, not Galilee.

The Hebrew idea behind it is just a congregation of Israel, and the word Jesus supposedly used is a translation of a translation. Nothing in any original language has him saying he loves the church.

lindqvistbergst:
And melt.....😂.

The whole New Testament survives in Greek, but Jesus most likely spoke Aramaic day to day, with Hebrew for scripture and synagogue. That means even Matthew 16:18 is a Greek translation of something he probably said in Aramaic, so nobody has his exact words.

Now the Greek. In Matthew 16:18 the word is ekklesia, and Ephesians 5:25 uses the same word with the verb agapao, the strong self giving kind of love. The Greek in Ephesians is solid, no translation trick softening it. Paul really wrote that Christ loved the church. (Paul after the crucifixion. So jesus never claimed to love the church)

The interesting bit is ekklesia itself. It was an ordinary Greek word for a citizen assembly, a town meeting where people gathered to decide things. It has nothing religious baked into it. The Greek Old Testament, the Septuagint, used it to translate the Hebrew qahal, meaning the assembled congregation of Israel. So when Jesus or Matthew says ekklesia, a Jewish ear would hear the gathered people of God, not a new institution with buildings and bishops.

And his own religion had no word for church. Jewish gatherings were the synagogue, the sunagoge, which is also just Greek for a gathering. The word that became church is Paul’s world, Greek speaking cities, not Galilee.

The Hebrew idea behind it is just a congregation of Israel, and the word Jesus supposedly used is a translation of a translation. Nothing in any original language has him saying he loves the church.

I pointed John 17 and you are all over the place rambling what original language Mathew was written and when jesus talks about God's people from the g9spels, do you think he's referring to the Jews or a new group of people?


PS: stop being allowed over the place and stick to the point.

erniok:
I pointed John 17 and you are all over the place rambling what original language Mathew was written and when jesus talks about God's people from the g9spels, do you think he's referring to the Jews or a new group of people?


PS: stop being allowed over the place and stick to the point.

I dont give a feck what you point at. It was all written by other people after the death. Not once anywhere does it say that "jesus said" he loved the church. What is wrong you that you cannot read the book? Its third party opinion. Grow up little lady.

You came to my topic so mind ya manners in my manor.

erniok:
I pointed John 17 and you are all over the place rambling what original language Mathew was written and when jesus talks about God's people from the g9spels, do you think he's referring to the Jews or a new group of people?


PS: stop being allowed over the place and stick to the point.

Melt. This topic was never about religion so be quiet.

But let's finish this and make you quiet.

You brought up John 17 because it features the famous "High Priestly Prayer," where Jesus prays for his disciples and "those who will believe in me through their message."

The word ekklesia (church) never appears in the entire Gospel of John. Not even once.

John is universally recognized by scholars as the latest of the four canonical gospels, written around 90–110 CE. It is a highly theological, Greek philosophical text. Even if you want to interpret Jesus praying for unity as "loving the church," textually, the word isn't there, and it remains a later writer's narrative script, not direct speech recorded in real time.

The historical Jesus explicitly states in Matthew 15:24, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

To a 1st century apocalyptic Jewish prophet, "God's people" meant Israel. The idea of a completely separate, Gentile dominated global religion called "the Church" didn't exist while Jesus was alive. It was Paul and the later diaspora communities who engineered that shift.

Jesus loved church was a third party opinion. Church never existed while Jesus lived so how the feck could he love it....melts.

Oh erniok you naughty boy. Trying to say no no hurty words. Instead of just reading your bible and paying attention to it.

lindqvistbergst:
Oh erniok you naughty boy. Trying to say no no hurty words. Instead of just reading your bible and paying attention to it.

Hurty word? Nahhh just telling you your nature. I've read my bible today and you should do same.

My nature?
A cocky Berkshire hunt

A human with no humility and absolutely zero respect for people like you that will start random insults for no reason. Ive made that clear on here many many times.
Everything i say is highly documented. Most of what you say is fabricated.


What on Gawds green urth were you thinking?

@ OP;

How do you know about a kingdom that you are not a part of?

The Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ spoke about to guide us into all truth, did evidently manifested in Paul, in signs and wonders, making him a credible contributor to what Jesus was trying to build (I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it).

Don’t meddle in the things you know nothing about.

If you truly do not believe in God (which I don’t think you do), then Christianity should not bother you this much.

EALG:
@ OP;

How do you know about a kingdom that you are not a part of?

The Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ spoke about to guide us into all truth, did evidently manifested in Paul, in signs and wonders, making him a credible contributor to what Jesus was trying to build (I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it).

Don’t meddle in the things you know nothing about.

If you truly do not believe in God (which I don’t think you do), then Christianity should not bother you this much.

"Will build..." future tense. And no, he said he was sent for the people of Israel.

Read the damn book cover to cover. Not listen to the cherry picked readings of pastors. Cor blimey. Why do you refuse to read your own book? ITS NOT AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY. its written about him not by him. You dont have a clue what he said. It was all written after the death......so third party opinion.

lindqvistbergst:
"Will build..." future tense. And no, he said he was sent for the people of Israel.

Read the damn book cover to cover. Not listen to the cherry picked readings of pastors. Cor blimey. Why do you refuse to read your own book? ITS NOT AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY. it’s written about him not by him. You dont have a clue what he said. It was all written after the death......so third party opinion.

It’s obvious that you are naive.

You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

EALG:
It’s obvious that you are naive.

You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

Be quiet until YOU read YOUR book.
African man in a country that cannot build a functioning power plant for 24 hour power but think they can read a book.

lindqvistbergst:
Be quiet until YOU read YOUR book.
African man in a country that cannot build a functioning power plant for 24 hour power but think they can read a book.

I read it very well, and that is why I know a lot of things from the book that you don't know.

I think you have been hurt really badly by a Nigerian or perhaps some Nigerians. I’m sorry for the pain they have caused you! Just don’t bring Christianity into this.

The freedom revolution that birthed the modern West was, for the most part, shaped by Christian values.

Without Christianity, human rights as we know them today wouldn’t exist.

EALG:
I read it very well, and that is why I know a lot of things from the book that you don't know.

I think you have been hurt really badly by a Nigerian or perhaps some Nigerians. I’m sorry for the pain they have caused you! Just don’t bring Christianity into this.

The freedom revolution that birthed the modern West was, for the most part, shaped by Christian values.

Without Christianity, human rights as we know them today wouldn’t exist.

Be quiet and go read my past posts melt.
Go read it.....ive already basically said that multiple times. 😂

But you are Nigerian you dont practice Christianity. You warped it.

Bible says obey the law. Nigeria = one of the corrupt countries on the planet 😀

You will break constitutional law, in something as petty as someone elses wedding out of sheer greed and spite.

The Bible says don't lie about man made cultural tradition.....what do Nigerians do? Put Everything before the religion 😀.

Im a "cultural Christian" an atheist that believes none of it. But was raised in true Christian societies.

So you know what I think is hilarious? It took you days to think this up. Been on and off. Reading it and festering and this was the best you could come up 😂