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The Bible made me understand that Ishmael was Abraham's first son and that he(Abraham), was to sacrifice his first son to God as an offering for his faithfulness and obedience to the Will of God.

The Bible says it's Isaac that was to be the sacrificial lamb but the Quran says it's Ismael.

If you ask my opinion, I would take sides with the Islamic injunction about this story for two reasons:

1. That Sarah after all she suffered to have that child, she wouldn't have allowed Abraham to even attempt sacrificing Isaac for any reason but could frame up Ishmael for the sacrifice for fear of him being the beneficiary of Abraham's wealth after his death.

2. That Ishmael was actually Abraham's first son in spite of his purported illegitimacy.

What do you think?

It was Ishmael, Isaac wasn't even born then else how will God ask him to sacrifice his only son if Isaac has been born by the time of the sacrifice.
It's logic

It's simple and common sense
Where did the story of Abraham attempt to sacrifice his son Isaac from? The Holy Bible. Which was written hundreds to a thousand years before Christ.
Where did the story of Abraham attempt to sacrifice his son Ishmael from? The Holy Quran. Which was written 600 years after Christ.
Now use your head and open mind and answer this question yourself. Peace✌️

Well defined!
You hit the head on the nail!

Coolsat:
It was Ishmael, Isaac wasn't even born then else how will God ask him to sacrifice his only son if Isaac has been born by the time of the sacrifice.
It's logic

imagrg:
Well defined!
You hit the head on the nail!

watch them come to twist it to suit their narrative. Sometimes we should make use of our senses

The story is just a myth

Coolsat:
It was Ishmael, Isaac wasn't even born then else how will God ask him to sacrifice his only son if Isaac has been born by the time of the sacrifice.
It's logic

yeah! U re right!

Greatzeus:
It's simple and common sense
Where did the story of Abraham attempt to sacrifice his son Isaac from? The Holy Bible. Which was written hundreds to a thousand years before Christ.
Where did the story of Abraham attempt to sacrifice his son Ishmael from? The Holy Quran. Which was written 600 years after Christ.
Now use your head and open mind and answer this question yourself. Peace✌️

After giving birth to Ishmael, the son of Abram, Hagar and her son are banished from the house of Abraham (at the request of Sarai)
Abraham had already sent Hagar and the son away long before the sacrifice was demanded of him.


I wonder What kind of Bible are Imagrg is reading sef?

Abraham never saw Ishmael as his son from day one because Hagai wasn't his legitimate wife that's why he doesn't care what Sarah will do to the slave girl and her pregnancy.

Secondly when God promised Abraham that his children will become many throughout the earth he wanted to accept that Ishmael was the promised child but God told him that it's not Ishmael but Isaac the child to be born by his legitimate wife! Genesis 17:18-21

Hagai herself has been told by God's angel that Ishmael will breed terrorists and not the type of children that will produce the fruit of faith! Genesis 16:11-12

So when Sarah demanded that Hagai and her son be sent away Abraham was told to let go of the child since he's not the promised child that will produce the fruit of faith! Genesis 21:8-14

The lineage that has ever produced prophets mentioned in the Quran itself is that of Isaac there was never one single prophet from the lineage of Ishmael!

So when the scriptures say Abraham's only child it was evident that the child in question is the one promised to him because that's the promise that led him out of the land of his ancestors he surely knew Ishmael couldn't be his only child after all it's now evident that the delay came due to Sarah's barrenness his impotency on his own part. Genesis 25:1

It's that heritage Jacob bought from Esau with a bowl of stew the promise of the fruit that will save mankind from their sins {Genesis 12:1-3} which is Jesus Christ! Isaiah 9:6

imagrg:
Well defined!
You hit the head on the nail!

...no wonder fake pastors tell u pple all manner of rubbish and u guys don't bother to check

Coolsat:
watch them come to twist it to suit their narrative. Sometimes we should make use of our senses

Lol...... How are u using ur head??

advanceDNA:
Lol...... How are u using ur head??

Don't engage me rudely. Swerve

Coolsat:
Don't engage me rudely. Swerve

U triggered already?? No vex

Me I just wanted to know how u used ur head in this matter....

Both religious texts portray Abraham as a prophet of great faith and obedience to Uno Online. There are some differences in details throughout the stories, including the sacrifice.

Coolsat:
It was Ishmael, Isaac wasn't even born then else how will God ask him to sacrifice his only son if Isaac has been born by the time of the sacrifice.
It's logic

Funny how “logic” did not lead you to the correct conclusion that the story is a depraved fairy tale.

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham never saw Ishmael as his son from day one because Hagai wasn't his legitimate wife that's why he doesn't care what Sarah will do to the slave girl and her pregnancy.

The deplorable protagonists of the Hebrew fairy tales never fail to horrify and amuse me.

Then abrahamic types cite these scumbags as the epitome of morality. Lmao what a joke?!

KnownUnknown:
The deplorable protagonists of the Hebrew fairy tales never fail to horrify and amuse me.
Then abrahamic types cite these scumbags as the epitome of morality. Lmao what a joke?!

Who told you Abraham is the epitome of morality?
Well if you must know morality depends on the geographical location you come from what is called morals in one geographical location may be evil in another.
What the Bible say about Abraham is that he was upright in the face of the God who created all things!

Can anyone give a Quranic verse that supports Ismael?

Islam or Lieslam is a confusion.

Yahweh is not Allah;
Allah is not Yahweh.

imagrg:
● The Bible made me understand that Ishmael was Abraham's first son and that he(Abraham), was to sacrifice his first son to God as an offering for his faithfulness and obedience to the Will of God.
The Bible says it's Isaac that was to be the sacrificial lamb but the Quran says it's Ismael.
If you ask my opinion, I would take sides with the Islamic injunction about this story for two reasons:
1. That Sarah after all she suffered to have that child, she wouldn't have allowed Abraham to even attempt sacrificing Isaac for any reason but could frame up Ishmael for the sacrifice for fear of him being the beneficiary of Abraham's wealth after his death.
2. That Ishmael was actually Abraham's first son in spite of his purported illegitimacy.
What do you think?

Accepting one narrative means you not only have to reject in entirety the other version of the story but also completely accept that the rest of the book that contains the rejected narration is rendered invalid by your choice. 🤔🤔

MightySparrow:
Can anyone give a Quranic verse that supports Ismael?

Islam or Lieslam is a confusion.

Yahweh is not Allah;
Allah is not Yahweh.

exactly, I keep saying this, the Christian God and Muslim God are not thesame, purely different entity.

Cancri:
exactly, I keep saying this, the Christian God and Muslim God are not thesame, purely different entity.

You see am so?
Islam is all confusion.

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham never saw Ishmael as his son from day one because Hagai wasn't his legitimate wife that's why he doesn't care what Sarah will do to the slave girl and her pregnancy.

Secondly when God promised Abraham that his children will become many throughout the earth he wanted to accept that Ishmael was the promised child but God told him that it's not Ishmael but Isaac the child to be born by his legitimate wife! Genesis 17:18-21

Hagai herself has been told by God's angel that Ishmael will breed terrorists and not the type of children that will produce the fruit of faith! Genesis 16:11-12

So when Sarah demanded that Hagai and her son be sent away Abraham was told to let go of the child since he's not the promised child that will produce the fruit of faith! Genesis 21:8-14

The lineage that has ever produced prophets mentioned in the Quran itself is that of Isaac there was never one single prophet from the lineage of Ishmael!

So when the scriptures say Abraham's only child it was evident that the child in question is the one promised to him because that's the promise that led him out of the land of his ancestors he surely knew Ishmael couldn't be his only child after all it's now evident that the delay came due to Sarah's barrenness his impotency on his own part. Genesis 25:1

It's that heritage Jacob bought from Esau with a bowl of stew the promise of the fruit that will save mankind from their sins {Genesis 12:1-3} which is Jesus Christ! Isaiah 9:6

Which is more legitimate: Hagar son or keturah's