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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jasp12(m): 6:36am On Oct 20
smallsmall:
I understand your point, Bro.

Just because a Product is New in the Market, or the Name is Chinese or does not 'ring a Bell' or even because it is NOT Expensive, does not mean it is of Bad or of low quality!

In Nigeria, we usually associate "quality" with "High Price" but experience has shown that Sellers are capitalizing on our assumptions and just upping the Price for us.

Some Sellers are New therefore, their Products are relatively Unknown.
But they want to "break" into the Market and make a name for themselves so, they (initially) reduce their Prices, to attract Customers since they know that we are all Price-sensitive!

It is after they have established The Quality of their Product in the Market, made a Name for themselves, that they then revert to Normal or even higher Prices.

My suggestion:
- Read Reviews, from those who have actually bought and used the Product.
-Rread such Reviews from Reputable and Independent Sites like TrustPilot.
- Check the Sales level of the Product: the more the Buyers, the more trustworthy their Reviews
- Pay attention to their "Warranty & Returns Policy": Manufacturers who have confidence in their Products, are not afraid to offer long Warranties and will make 'Returns' very easy for their Buyers, should they have any issue with their Product. They are just confident that only a very tiny Fraction of Buyers will have the need to Return their Product


BTW: I was having this same discussion an hour ago, with my youngest Child, a University Freshman, who wants to buy a Soldering Iron for one of his Engineering Courses and we saw a "Cheap One" that has Temperature Control, On/Off Switch, Extra Solder Tips, etc.
His immediate response was: Dad, l dont want that One, if it is that cheap, it cant be that good! shocked shocked grin grin
Young Man did not even bother to read the reviews or any of the other things l mentioned above.
Ofcourse, l am the one Paying, shey you get. undecided grin
Well said, though for me I'm more concerned with customer support
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by AyarmBoye(m): 1:39pm On Oct 20
smallsmall:
I understand your point, Bro.

Just because a Product is New in the Market, or the Name is Chinese or does not 'ring a Bell' or even because it is NOT Expensive, does not mean it is of Bad or of low quality!

In Nigeria, we usually associate "quality" with "High Price" but experience has shown that Sellers are capitalizing on our assumptions and just upping the Price for us.

Some Sellers are New therefore, their Products are relatively Unknown.
But they want to "break" into the Market and make a name for themselves so, they (initially) reduce their Prices, to attract Customers since they know that we are all Price-sensitive!

It is after they have established The Quality of their Product in the Market, made a Name for themselves, that they then revert to Normal or even higher Prices.

My suggestion:
- Read Reviews, from those who have actually bought and used the Product.
-Rread such Reviews from Reputable and Independent Sites like TrustPilot.
- Check the Sales level of the Product: the more the Buyers, the more trustworthy their Reviews
- Pay attention to their "Warranty & Returns Policy": Manufacturers who have confidence in their Products, are not afraid to offer long Warranties and will make 'Returns' very easy for their Buyers, should they have any issue with their Product. They are just confident that only a very tiny Fraction of Buyers will have the need to Return their Product


BTW: I was having this same discussion an hour ago, with my youngest Child, a University Freshman, who wants to buy a Soldering Iron for one of his Engineering Courses and we saw a "Cheap One" that has Temperature Control, On/Off Switch, Extra Solder Tips, etc.
His immediate response was: Dad, l dont want that One, if it is that cheap, it cant be that good! shocked shocked grin grin
Young Man did not even bother to read the reviews or any of the other things l mentioned above.
Ofcourse, l am the one Paying, shey you get. undecided grin
i understand your point especially when buying online you will see reviews…but you see this particular one was seeing in the market nothing about it online ..no description or reviews….and its very very cheap…..selling 2.5kwh 12v for 290k is alarming ..I won’t be surprised if the content is just 100-120ah advertised as 200ah
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OgogoroFreak(m): 3:15pm On Oct 20
smallsmall:
I understand your point, Bro.

Just because a Product is New in the Market, or the Name is Chinese or does not 'ring a Bell' or even because it is NOT Expensive, does not mean it is of Bad or of low quality!

In Nigeria, we usually associate "quality" with "High Price" but experience has shown that Sellers are capitalizing on our assumptions and just upping the Price for us.

Some Sellers are New therefore, their Products are relatively Unknown.
But they want to "break" into the Market and make a name for themselves so, they (initially) reduce their Prices, to attract Customers since they know that we are all Price-sensitive!

It is after they have established The Quality of their Product in the Market, made a Name for themselves, that they then revert to Normal or even higher Prices.

My suggestion:
- Read Reviews, from those who have actually bought and used the Product.
-Rread such Reviews from Reputable and Independent Sites like TrustPilot.
- Check the Sales level of the Product: the more the Buyers, the more trustworthy their Reviews
- Pay attention to their "Warranty & Returns Policy": Manufacturers who have confidence in their Products, are not afraid to offer long Warranties and will make 'Returns' very easy for their Buyers, should they have any issue with their Product. They are just confident that only a very tiny Fraction of Buyers will have the need to Return their Product


BTW: I was having this same discussion an hour ago, with my youngest Child, a University Freshman, who wants to buy a Soldering Iron for one of his Engineering Courses and we saw a "Cheap One" that has Temperature Control, On/Off Switch, Extra Solder Tips, etc.
His immediate response was: Dad, l dont want that One, if it is that cheap, it cant be that good! shocked shocked grin grin
Young Man did not even bother to read the reviews or any of the other things l mentioned above.
Ofcourse, l am the one Paying, shey you get. undecided grin
There is a base price for everything. You'll get what you paid for.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow:
It's just funny.

When One is identified as "Dark skinned" in a room filled with Dark Skinned people, na mostly because your own DARk carry weight.

No need for plenty grammar.

MoreOver, make we no forget say Reviews (all over the world) can and often is FAKEd.

There's no issue if the market is flooded with lots of quality or even average grade E Lithium batteries; would help make things MORE affordAble BUT wetin dey market, a lot of dem na grade M and above.

Come be like say everyOne of them wanna have their own brand. Similar to the days of leadAcid batteries. My own na make dem at least continue write dem own brands; and not try to iMmitate other brands.

Either way, Cheap can be good or bad and vice versa.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m):
Good evening my people. Pls can I put 9pcs 530w Jinko panels on series for SMS 12kw 48v? Though VOC 49.26v or thereabout, I just want to know if anyone has push the limit closer? Thanks for your swift response
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 10:16am On Oct 21
idsolar:
Good evening my people. Pls can I put 9pcs 530w Jinko panels on series for SMS 12kw 48v? Though VOC 49.26v or thereabout, I just want to know if anyone has push the limit closer? Thanks for your swift response
9 panel is only 450VOC not anywhere close to 500
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:28am On Oct 21
idsolar:
Good evening my people. Pls can I put 9pcs 530w Jinko panels on series for SMS 12kw 48v? Though VOC 49.26v or thereabout, I just want to know if anyone has push the limit closer? Thanks for your swift response
would have suggested you share screenshot of their stickers.

Make we no go assume. Have seen Jinko panels with funny looking junctionBoxes but with jinKo sticker.

Also no be only VOC that's to be considered

Also are you handling things yourSelf or outSourcing ?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 2:54pm On Oct 21
bassdow:
would have suggested you share screenshot of their stickers.

Make we no go assume. Have seen Jinko panels with funny looking junctionBoxes but with jinKo sticker.

Also no be only VOC that's to be considered

Also are you handling things yourSelf or outSourcing ?
Thanks for ur response, I am handling the installation. I am going for upgrade. The panels are already installed on non hybrid with CC, now upgrading to hybrid. Though VOC total not up to 450v which is safe and within limit but just asking if Jinko panels from experience use to have voltage spike or any install closer or over my VOC working well without issue
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 4:20pm On Oct 21
Your fear should be the max amperage. You need to series all 9 panels to be safe. So confirm what configuration the panels are currently on
idsolar:
Thanks for ur response, I am handling the installation. I am going for upgrade. The panels are already installed on non hybrid with CC, now upgrading to hybrid. Though VOC total not up to 450v which is safe and within limit but just asking if Jinko panels from experience use to have voltage spike or any install closer or over my VOC working well without issue
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 4:59pm On Oct 21
Gshems:
Your fear should be the max amperage. You need to series all 9 panels to be safe. So confirm what configuration the panels are currently on
which is why I suggested we see the stickers.

Because when e sheyLe, na We e go blame - which is quite understandable

Glad to hear He/She is personally handling it though to a lot of us, it's a loss of Revenue abi inCome
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:50pm On Oct 21
Please I need TOMZN TOB9DC-63 or dedicated Tuya DC Smart MCB (stamped DC 8V–90V)?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 6:52pm On Oct 21
FEGEITOK:
Please I need TOMZN TOB9DC-63 or dedicated Tuya DC Smart MCB (stamped DC 8V–90V)?
unfortunately, I don't have the contact but e dey Alaba market
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SaintUlot: 7:18pm On Oct 21
This is an Original pure sine wave inverter 5kVA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nM_heTlKaI
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IsaKielEnergy: 10:43am On Oct 22
Don’t know if you still need this, but for a 100W Hisense fridge that setup could work, provided the battery and inverter specifications are genuine.

The important thing is that 200Ah on its own doesn’t tell you the battery size—the voltage matters. A 200Ah 12.8V battery is roughly 2.5kWh, while a 200Ah 25.6V battery is roughly 5kWh.

For the 1.8kVA inverter, check that it is pure sine wave and can handle the fridge’s startup surge. The fridge’s 100W rating is its running load, but the compressor draws more when starting and does not run continuously, so actual runtime will depend on its duty cycle and any other loads.

As for Cworth, I’d be careful about relying on the brand name alone. Confirm the exact model, battery voltage, usable capacity, BMS rating and that the unit is genuine before paying. If you share the battery voltage and inverter model, people can give a more accurate answer.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Bankyshinani(m): 11:38am On Oct 22
I want to get a 48v battery @valto and @mrrreed, do you have any 48v battery available?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 11:56am On Oct 22
bassdow:
which is why I suggested we see the stickers.

Because when e sheyLe, na We e go blame - which is quite understandable

Glad to hear He/She is personally handling it though to a lot of us, it's a loss of Revenue abi inCome
The 9pcs Jinko panels are currently running on series and parallel. I am upgrading with hybrid on MPPT VOC max 500v. With total panel VOC of 443.34v, though within range, I just want a second opinion from experience, have you installed close to this range and working without issue of voltage spike? Thank you
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bashiruhammed97(m): 12:43pm On Oct 22
Good afternoon my bosses, please enlighten me on this issue. I'm stuck between buying Itel power tank ( 1000wh ) and building the pack myself a 12v system ( Lifep04 , 125AH ).

I do not much load , my major needs is Laptop, Router, Fan and to charge phone.

Thank you.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:20pm On Oct 22
idsolar:
The 9pcs Jinko panels are currently running on series and parallel. I am upgrading with hybrid on MPPT VOC max 500v. With total panel VOC of 443.34v, though within range, I just want a second opinion from experience, have you installed close to this range and working without issue of voltage spike? Thank you
it's Okay.

Normally, I tend to love overDoing somethings hence I often leave a gap of at least 100v where convenient BUT still, a difference of approximately 55v is still VERY okay in your situation.

I responded to something similar via whatsApp, and person wey come take suggestion come dey argue join. Make we no dey allow AI abi chatGiBiTi confuse us abeg.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:46pm On Oct 22
bashiruhammed97:
Good afternoon my bosses, please enlighten me on this issue. I'm stuck between buying Itel power tank ( 1000wh ) and building the pack myself a 12v system ( Lifep04 , 125AH ).

I do not much load , my major needs is Laptop, Router, Fan and to charge phone.

Thank you.
rePeatedly, we've shared and discussed, and even argued the PROS and CONs of such systems hence wouldn't wanna go back to it.

BUT

If I were in ya shoes, and don't wanna spend much, I would do the below:

Ensure Fan is DC. Have shared how to buy them at dirt CHEAP prices and wouldn't be rePEATing ma self again

Buy 1pcs Brand New 625w halfCut mono solar panel or 2pcs of USEd 350w Mono solar panel for not more than 100k

1pcs quality 12v 200Ah battery (New or USEd). If Lithium, feel free to do 100A but if leadAcid, must be at least 200AH

A quality USEd 60A MPPT charge controller for <= 100k

1pcs of DC 400W 15A step up boost converter or similar for approximately 10k

With the above, you can power your loads and even add 2 more laptops and could even add TV if it's the type that uses external power adapter.

NB: The above gives 100% room for fuuture upGrades with almost no reason to reSale anything which is often one major way to loose.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:49pm On Oct 22
bashiruhammed97:
Good afternoon my bosses, please enlighten me on this issue. I'm stuck between buying Itel power tank ( 1000wh ) and building the pack myself a 12v system ( Lifep04 , 125AH ).

I do not much load , my major needs is Laptop, Router, Fan and to charge phone.

Thank you.
My response above is more of a general one and not just to you.

Also why you wanna build instead of buying readyMade especially for such small capacity
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:56pm On Oct 22
bassdow:
JUST so You Know: There are clients who wanna sell Itel Power Tank just in case you interested.




rePeatedly, we've shared and discussed, and even argued the PROS and CONs of such systems hence wouldn't wanna go back to it.

BUT

If I were in ya shoes, and don't wanna spend much, I would do the below:

Ensure Fan is DC. Have shared how to buy them at dirt CHEAP prices and wouldn't be rePEATing ma self again

Buy 1pcs Brand New 625w halfCut mono solar panel or 2pcs of USEd 350w Mono solar panel for not more than 100k

1pcs quality 12v 200Ah battery (New or USEd). If Lithium, feel free to do 100A but if leadAcid, must be at least 200AH

A quality USEd 60A MPPT charge controller for <= 100k

1pcs of DC 400W 15A step up boost converter or similar for approximately 10k

With the above, you can power your loads and even add 2 more laptops and could even add TV if it's the type that uses external power adapter.

NB: The above gives 100% room for fuuture upGrades with almost no reason to reSale anything which is often one major way to loose.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 2:19pm On Oct 22
Bankyshinani:
I want to get a 48v battery @valto and @mrrreed, do you have any 48v battery available?
48v 10.7kwh , 48v 6.1kwh , 48v 16kwh , 48v 20kwh , 48v 17.2kwh all available
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Bankyshinani(m): 8:07pm On Oct 22
Valto:
48v 10.7kwh , 48v 6.1kwh , 48v 16kwh , 48v 20kwh , 48v 17.2kwh all available
Okay sir
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by justcallmenuel(m): 11:44am On Oct 23
Lvtopsun lithium battery
Hyper power lithium battery
Cworth lithium battery

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 12:45pm On Oct 23
Guys, I think I’ll need a technician to come check out my inverter.
The inverter shut down even though the battery still had 25% left. After that, it stopped charging from both the grid and PV, and it only comes on when I switch on the PV.
I eventually switched off the inverter and the battery. When I tried powering it back on, the inverter wouldn’t come on by itself. it only comes on when I switch on the PV, but it still won’t charge. It keeps blinking red, which looks like a fault.
A similar issue happened a few weeks ago. When I called the installer, he just dusted off the inverter, re-screwed the battery connections, and it worked fine again.
Now the same problem has started. I also noticed that the fan no longer makes any noise, which usually means it’s not charging.
@bassdow @valto

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SaintUlot: 1:09pm On Oct 23
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SaintUlot: 1:11pm On Oct 23
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:39pm On Oct 23
hoover420:
Guys, I think I’ll need a technician to come check out my inverter.
The inverter shut down even though the battery still had 25% left. After that, it stopped charging from both the grid and PV, and it only comes on when I switch on the PV.
I eventually switched off the inverter and the battery. When I tried powering it back on, the inverter wouldn’t come on by itself. it only comes on when I switch on the PV, but it still won’t charge. It keeps blinking red, which looks like a fault.
A similar issue happened a few weeks ago. When I called the installer, he just dusted off the inverter, re-screwed the battery connections, and it worked fine again.
Now the same problem has started. I also noticed that the fan no longer makes any noise, which usually means it’s not charging.
@bassdow @valto
no be low Battery I dey see for screen so ?

Also depending on the configuration, that 25% could be the cutOff.

Also those battery percentage ain't always accurate. I sense the battery's BMS don lockUp to prevent issues.

That error 3 na mostly over voltage but just try charge that battery first. if e no gree, call ya installer to assist you. Currently too busy to type plenty
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hoover420: 3:27pm On Oct 23
bassdow:
no be low Battery I dey see for screen so ?

Also depending on the configuration, that 25% could be the cutOff.

Also those battery percentage ain't always accurate. I sense the battery's BMS don lockUp to prevent issues.

That error 3 na mostly over voltage but just try charge that battery first. if e no gree, call ya installer to assist you. Currently too busy to type plenty
Okay I have called the installer and he said he’ll come tomorrow. The issue now is that this same thing happened 2 weeks ago, all he did was re tightened the screw that connects the battery to the inverter, then he opened the inverter and cleaned the inside because it was dusty and it started working well. Now the same issue has started and the battery won’t even charge, both by grid and PV. What do you think may be the cause? It’s been over 8 hours and it’s still the same thing
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IsaKielEnergy: 4:24pm On Oct 23
bashiruhammed97:
Good afternoon my bosses, please enlighten me on this issue. I'm stuck between buying Itel power tank ( 1000wh ) and building the pack myself a 12v system ( Lifep04 , 125AH ).

I do not much load , my major needs is Laptop, Router, Fan and to charge phone.

Thank you.
Some quick numbers that might help you decide:

A 12V 125Ah lithium pack stores about 1.6kWh (12.8V x 125Ah), so it holds roughly 60% more than the 1000Wh power tank.

Your daily use is probably around 0.8 to 1kWh: a laptop for 6 hours is about 360Wh, a router left on all day about 240Wh, a fan for 8 hours about 400Wh (much less if it's a DC fan), plus phones.

So the 1000Wh tank would just about cover a day with little room to spare, while the 1.6kWh pack gives you headroom.

The catch with building it yourself is everything around the cells: a proper BMS, a fuse, a charge controller, an inverter or DC converters, and correct wiring. If you're comfortable doing that safely, the self-built pack gives you more for your money. If not, the power tank is plug-and-play and comes with a warranty, which is worth something.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IsaKielEnergy: 4:24pm On Oct 23
hoover420:
Okay I have called the installer and he said he’ll come tomorrow. The issue now is that this same thing happened 2 weeks ago, all he did was re tightened the screw that connects the battery to the inverter, then he opened the inverter and cleaned the inside because it was dusty and it started working well. Now the same issue has started and the battery won’t even charge, both by grid and PV. What do you think may be the cause? It’s been over 8 hours and it’s still the same thing
Since retightening the battery connection fixed it last time, I'd ask your installer to properly check the battery cables and lugs tomorrow, not just tighten them again. Look for heat marks, a cable that's loose inside its crimp, or a lug that's the wrong size for the cable. A poor connection makes the voltage drop when the load comes on, so the inverter can shut off early even with 25% showing, and it can stop charging too.

Also ask them to check whether the battery's BMS has locked out (some need a reset), and what low-battery cutoff is set on the inverter.

Until they come, I'd avoid switching it on and off repeatedly.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by iraybuju: 9:39pm On Oct 23
AyarmBoye:
bro the number of lithium batteries makers in the market is alarming…I saw one called Jinsung lithium battery,wtf is Jinsung? Even the popular names like Taico, itel, Felicity are being faked let alone no name batteries….omo ….
Mind you the so called popular batteries where once a “no name” if you do your research most of the so called popular names don’t produce cells they just assemble like many others.
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