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gaskiyamagana:
The thread is not about, my comment in response to you all so love America

You really are very funny and assumptous.

For your information, I do not love America at all, and despite having lived in Mexico for awhile, I have never been there. They have guns, and I am not the sort to back down or be intimidated, and would likely be shot if I went there, so I never bothered.

I do love some bits of their Constitution though, and have immense interest in it since they practise presidentialism like we do in Nigeria, which makes it smart to study to see where we might be going or where to not go.

Incidentally, bigpicture001 has reminded me of my response to him which opposes your view of me. I've quoted it for you below with a link so you can go read it in situ and hopefully improve your comprehension and view.

I do find it funny that he first accuses me of being a Muslim and then wants to convince me that Muslim you will behead me when it is he who sounds more like a beheader, while you attack me because of your own lack of comprehension that you refuse to take responsibility for.

Surely, only one of you can be right with your own hearing and vision in your own hearts.

budaatum:
You called me a Muslim, and I simply corrected you by stating what I am.

I have many Arabs around me and down the street where I live, and Muslims in my family and in my hometown in Ifon Osun and none of them are "infamous with violence ND domineering nature".

They live their life and I live my life, and I'm in fact more concerned living near you who is advocating that I hate my neighbour than any of them combined.

https://www.nairaland.com/8777277/abdul-el-sayed-first-muslim-us/3#141097039

Ezeama400:
It changes nothing.. No matter the party that wins, their foreign policy stands..

Any anyone that tries to change it receives a forceful resistance..

Both Democrats and Republicans have strong ties with Isreal, no matter the party controlling Israeli parliament ..



These things change nothing.

US and Isreal will resume their attack on Iran, and I will come back here to remind you that , by then you will understand what a “Foreign policy” is all about.

Probably a Nigerian speaking boldly for Americas that doesn't want the war and never approved of it in the first instance.
You are probably in Nigeria so you don't know how the war has affected the economy here, one of the major reasons why they lost the election even trump himself and his vice confirmed it. The whole election was centered around the war in Iran, economy and immigration in that order.

budaatum:
And you think not forming government with people because of their religion is mature and classy?

How about not forming government with people of another tribe, say like if Yoruba me refused to form government with Igbos, is that "mature and classy and woke" too or am I simply be being a bigoted idiot?

Y’all need to always endeavor to read things carefully before speaking. This discussion is not about forming an alliance with others in order to achieve common national aims but about protecting those opportunities, positions and power that are supposed to be enjoyed exclusively by the natives of a country (political position is one of these opportunities)
Yes, not allowing foreigners get to some positions is classy, mature and wise. The Americans are not being wise but the Arab Muslims are. The Arabs should start giving foreigners the same opportunities in their own lands too. When the Arabs open up their leadership positions for foreigners to participate freely like the US is sillily doing, then we can continue having this conversation.
Why aren’t you telling this your load of ignorant take to countries like China and Russia? Or are you saying these two countries aren’t classy and mature for not giving outsiders the opportunities that the other Europeans and America are dishing out freely?
Please go to Russia and start running for a political office as a foreigner🤣
Have you asked yourself why Muslims aren’t running for political offices or demanding to have their own sharia laws in those countries I mentioned?
Going by your funny logic, these countries are bigoted and not woke for not bowing to the demands of foreigners 🤣🤣
Clap for yourself you hear?
Sell off your ancestral land, political power, and opportunities all because you don’t want to be called a bigot by those who aren’t even hiding their own bigotry shogbo?🤣

Again, there are some things you don’t put in the hands of foreigners—no matter the level of trust and closeness, your political leadership/offices/future/decision-making are some of such things.
This explains why I am vehemently against allowing Gbadebo (even though he’s still a Yoruba) to govern Lagos until same can be replicated in the East. This is not me being a bigot but there are some things you don’t give to foreigners no matter how much you love them. Countries and societies like the Igbo land, North, China, North Korea, South Korea, Russia, etc., understand this fact very well.
It’s only recently that Lagos is now understanding it.

They aren’t giving you the things they are asking of you because they know you don’t think. They know that all you want is to be seen as mature and not bigoted. While you see yourself as being mature, they see you as being stupid for giving them the opportunities that they won’t give to you in their own lands.

budaatum:
The Islamic Revolution of 1979 was in reaction to the CIA and MI6-backed 1953 Iranian coup d'état which overthrew Iran's democratically elected prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, who had nationalized the Anglo-Persian Oil Company. Basically, it was the take back of Iran and its oil and assets from America and Britain who wanted to make it their own. But you'd need to go way back to 1891 to understand how they got where they are today. There is far more behind it than "Islam taking over in 1979" as you seem to think.

And no, I am not claiming the Iranians want Islam gone. What they want gone is the form of oppressive Islam that is being imposed on them. Malaysia is a secular country but its people are predominantly Muslim, and they don't want their Islam gone because it is not as oppressive as Iran's. And neither do Muslims in Nigeria want their Islam gone.

Again you've made yourself the spokesman of Iranians. You've summarily described them as captives of their own reaction to rejection of Western intrusion in their local politics. You've suddenly developed the ability to know that all Muslims want to be Malaysian Muslims who are free and secular. However, the reality that stares at youwhen you consider countries with predominantly Muslim populations negates your attempt to push up Malaysia as the utopian Muslim state that other Muslims aspire to.
Back to your historical mixup, the Iranian revolution was not a result of the interference of the West in the 1959 coup. Most Iranians were not even remotely aware of the part the west played in 1959. Rather, it was a jihad. Just as they did in Afghanistan were it was believed that all of society's ills was a result of western lifestyle and ideas.

Ezeama400:
It changes nothing.. No matter the party that wins, their foreign policy stands..

Any anyone that tries to change it receives a forceful resistance..

Both Democrats and Republicans have strong ties with Isreal, no matter the party controlling Israeli parliament ..



These things change nothing.

US and Isreal will resume their attack on Iran, and I will come back here to remind you that , by then you will understand what a “Foreign policy” is all about.

Stay away from whatever you are smoking.

anonimi:
Can the fake Muslim in Aso Rock say that

I think you should try and understand Islam better because Nothing in your videos shows Tinubu not to be a good Muslim.

The first video you posted was perfect. The second video was a mistake that anyone can make after all, no one is above mistake.

LordLicifer:
He is a Jihadist, America hasn't spoken they voted democrat because petrol is expensive, suddenly republicans now becomes democrats? Not really, let's see what happens in the next 2 years.


Did you travel to America to vote this muslem jihadists? If you didn't, what gives you the right to criticise Trump fans for not travelling?

bigpicture001:
The whites do not even know their enemies...

Untill it is too late...

Only china and isreal understands Muslims perfectly...

One day, they will resurrect Donald trump's tweets about being foolish with Muslim camdidates

Coming from African Negros

jaxxy:
Abormination. God help America and open their eyes to the enemy.

Even moderate muslims dont trust this abdul.

Stop crying

valentineuwakwe:
Nonsense..Wil they allow any Christians dey call infidel to even near any position in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia or even Morocco that is in Africa here...

America is not a Christian country

sinola:
This is how they will leave their bloodletting middlebelt countries where they have denigrated with filt and and deceitful teachings and come to a land of free world to infiltrate the their land. So, they love the kind of lifestyle people are living in the US yet they will be pushing for beheading and killings for a very minute issues in their land...yeye dey smell

If i am Trump, i will ban them from contesting for any elective post

You are not Trump

Ezeama400:
It changes nothing.. No matter the party that wins, their foreign policy stands..

Any anyone that tries to change it receives a forceful resistance..

Both Democrats and Republicans have strong ties with Isreal, no matter the party controlling Israeli parliament ..



These things change nothing.

US and Isreal will resume their attack on Iran, and I will come back here to remind you that , by then you will understand what a “Foreign policy” is all about.

It's not totally true. Democrats have consistently voiced out their stand against Palestine attacks and denounced the war by Israel. Democrats Obama also gave millions abi billions of dollars to Iran in agreement not to advance nuclear armament.

So you see Democrats don't want to go to war with Iran but is still against their nuclear armament, did Iran break that agreement ? Yes. You see with the ideology of Democrats Iran would keep getting more powerful and militarized against the USA.

This was what Democrats allowed with chiba until China became a superpower. Republicans are trying to stop it by destroying the government of all China allies where they buy cheap oil such as venezuela, iran and Greenland.

The only country Democrats totally don't mind supporting a war against even directly, happens to be Russia. Democrat Biden donated billions of dollars to Ukraine including heavy weapons which they use to fight Russia till today.

Democrats only fight Russia. Then use soft power on all the other enemies.
Republicans fight Palestine, China and literally everybody else against USA. They don't use soft power against anybody.

numericalguy:
Coming from African Negros

Yes, which negro are you? German negro?

numericalguy:
America is not a Christian country

Oh you feel or think so?

It'sike telling me Nigeria is not a Muslim country

expert234, have you read this thread? You're there scared sh!tless by Islam yet it is Islam that can save and redeem you from the cesspit of ignorance and mind control. Your mind has been caged

expert234, accept Islam or perish!!!

Jmichael1:
Give me one reason to be ashamed.

You should be ashamed bros. It takes pure insanity to even support a govt that has thrown hundreds of millions into poverty at an alarming rate.

Handle them both? Funny guy the ayotollah and other top leaders are with virgins already

madridguy:
Iran is also waiting for them. Iran is capable to handle them both.

Good one, very soon a Christian will emerge in Afghanistan.

Alhamdullilah Ayotollah and others left this world as a courageous men.

Shamo007:
Handle them both? Funny guy the ayotollah and other top leaders are with virgins already

Irony1:
You should be ashamed bros. It takes pure insanity to even support a govt that has thrown hundreds of millions into poverty at an alarming rate.

Dats if the government does not favor you...

Let take for instance,does u expect the likes of tom polo to speak against dis government?

Dude, you are making up your own straw argument to argue about!

I never said anything about all Iranians or all Malaysians or all Muslims anywhere.

Enjoy arguing this with yourself. I haven't got the time to waste.

Kukutente23:
Again you've made yourself the spokesman of Iranians. You've summarily described them as captives of their own reaction to rejection of Western intrusion in their local politics. You've suddenly developed the ability to know that all Muslims want to be Malaysian Muslims who are free and secular. However, the reality that stares at youwhen you consider countries with predominantly Muslim populations negates your attempt to push up Malaysia as the utopian Muslim state that other Muslims aspire to.
Back to your historical mixup, the Iranian revolution was not a result of the interference of the West in the 1959 coup. Most Iranians were not even remotely aware of the part the west played in 1959. Rather, it was a jihad. Just as they did in Afghanistan were it was believed that all of society's ills was a result of western lifestyle and ideas.

Please read my response to Kukutente23.
The bit about time applies to you too.

https://www.nairaland.com/8777277/abdul-el-sayed-first-muslim-us/5#141101686

UrVillageChief:
Y’all need to always endeavor to read things carefully before speaking. This discussion is not about forming an alliance with others in order to achieve common national aims but about protecting those opportunities, positions and power that are supposed to be enjoyed exclusively by the natives of a country (political position is one of these opportunities)
Yes, not allowing foreigners get to some positions is classy, mature and wise. The Americans are not being wise but the Arab Muslims are. The Arabs should start giving foreigners the same opportunities in their own lands too. When the Arabs open up their leadership positions for foreigners to participate freely like the US is sillily doing, then we can continue having this conversation.
Why aren’t you telling this your load of ignorant take to countries like China and Russia? Or are you saying these two countries aren’t classy and mature for not giving outsiders the opportunities that the other Europeans and America are dishing out freely?
Please go to Russia and start running for a political office as a foreigner🤣
Have you asked yourself why Muslims aren’t running for political offices or demanding to have their own sharia laws in those countries I mentioned?
Going by your funny logic, these countries are bigoted and not woke for not bowing to the demands of foreigners 🤣🤣
Clap for yourself you hear?
Sell off your ancestral land, political power, and opportunities all because you don’t want to be called a bigot by those who aren’t even hiding their own bigotry shogbo?🤣

Again, there are some things you don’t put in the hands of foreigners—no matter the level of trust and closeness, your political leadership/offices/future/decision-making are some of such things.
This explains why I am vehemently against allowing Gbadebo (even though he’s still a Yoruba) to govern Lagos until same can be replicated in the East. This is not me being a bigot but there are some things you don’t give to foreigners no matter how much you love them. Countries and societies like the Igbo land, North, China, North Korea, South Korea, Russia, etc., understand this fact very well.
It’s only recently that Lagos is now understanding it.

They aren’t giving you the things they are asking of you because they know you don’t think. They know that all you want is to be seen as mature and not bigoted. While you see yourself as being mature, they see you as being stupid for giving them the opportunities that they won’t give to you in their own lands.

Jmichael1:
Dats if the government does not favor you...

Let take for instance,does u expect the likes of tom polo to speak against dis government?

Why should I wait for when govt favors me or not. Govt must favor the whole country.

LordLicifer:
Yes, which negro are you? German negro?

No be you go dey advocate for other races to be tortured because your own race have suffered the most on this planet

valentineuwakwe:
Oh you feel or think so?

It'sike telling me Nigeria is not a Muslim country

I'm not responsible for your inability to read

Irony1:
Why should I wait for when govt favors me or not. Govt must favor the whole country.

Not possible bro...

budaatum:
Please read my response to Kukutente23.
The bit about time applies to you too.

https://www.nairaland.com/8777277/abdul-el-sayed-first-muslim-us/5#141101686

I have no interest in whatever it was you were discussing with someone else.
You asked if Israel not allowing Muslims into their critical political positions was classy and mature or not and I responded that it’s super classy and mature.
You can’t be Yoruba because we don’t think this way.
There are some benefits and privileges that should never be left open to outsiders—no matter the level of trust and love you have for them. Internal politics and leadership is one of them.
So you want Israel to start forming alliances with Muslims in order to not be called Islamophobes when the people calling them these names aren’t even hiding their own bigotry.😂
Again, can a Jew or the Christian minorities in the Gulf States aspire to occupy political offices? Can they even be allowed to form a political party at all? Let’s start with that.
If the answer is no, why then aren’t you calling them classless and immature? Also, why aren’t you calling countries like Russia, South/North Korea, and China classless and immature for locking outsiders out of their internal politics? Ohh, so it’s classy and immature only when it’s done by Israel or the West, right?🤣
So because I don’t want to be called a tribal bigot, I should start campaigning for an Igbo or Hausa person to be my Governor, Abi? Okare. Clap for yourself.

Call me bigot, but the leadership of my region is a fundamental right that is EXCLUSIVELY reserved for the indigenous people.
Why should I even give outsiders that same rights and benefits that they will never give me in their own region?
Wetin Dey worry una sef? Wokeism is another way of telling people they are stupid. The person urging you to be woke is not even hiding his own bigotry.😂

jaxxy:
Abormination. God help America and open their eyes to the enemy.

Even moderate muslims dont trust this abdul.

Now I know how shallow you are, pathetic.

bigpicture001:
The whites do not even know their enemies...

Untill it is too late...

Only china and isreal understands Muslims perfectly...

One day, they will resurrect Donald trump's tweets about being foolish with Muslim camdidates

Really? don't worry Muslims will rule America for many years, people like you will cry and cry.

bigpicture001:
I know ur base of support cuz u are. A muslim

Islam will destroy the US ND that US is a country of our last hope to orderliness and justice ND freedom

Yes same way Christians and zionist jews destroyed middle-east. MUSLIMS will take over America and Europe.

Mirasteel:
Now I know how shallow you are, pathetic.

Are u supporting tinubu a failure with no proper documentation or historry is not shallow?

Abudul has ties to the muslim brotherhood who are banned in egypt and many countries for terrorism.

Moderate muslim dont support or trust him.

bigpicture001:
The whites do not even know their enemies...

Untill it is too late...

Only china and isreal understands Muslims perfectly...

One day, they will resurrect Donald trump's tweets about being foolish with Muslim camdidates

In life there is balance in everything. I used to dislike China and Russia cos of suppression of religion, gays etc but now i realize the purpose of their existence. I am not bothered about USA falling to Islamic rule as long as this two countries exist. Too much freedom is not good. USA has overdone it with their freedoms and liberties.

I will also be happy when muslims take over and ban homos, transgender, ask women to wear hijab or burka etc. Liberals in America don't know what they have until they lose it.