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| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 12:31am On May 27, 2013 |
Mcleo007: Now is the best time to get Matts Hummels who just ended this season without a trophy and knows his chances at silverware next time is not on the good note. Dortmund is ready to part with some of their top players; Lewandowski, Gotze, Gundogan and some more, wch will deplete the team. He's willing to come, and we can gt him for cheap.Why not Subotic? He's just 24. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 12:34am On May 27, 2013 |
Mcleo007: Villa is the sole reason they can. With him, we have a natural 9 who can finish up attacking moves. Thus, against difficult teams and crafty coaches, we can play a 4-5-1 with Villa as the spearhead in attack.Dude have you seen Villa lately? He doesn't have what made him the top Spanish striker anymore. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 12:36am On May 27, 2013 |
A-40:Oh yes, the allure of playing alongside Messi proved too irresistible. He had always said he wanted to play with Messi. ![]() |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Mcleo007(m): 8:31am On May 27, 2013 |
logica: Dude have you seen Villa lately? He doesn't have what made him the top Spanish striker anymore.Have you seen CR7 lately too? There seems to be some dressing problem among the squad, and Villa perhaps might have issues with the management or something. Something must be wrong somewhere, and unless it is resolved, the case might travail as it is. Form is temporary, they say, as class is permanent. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 9:53am On May 27, 2013 |
Mcleo007: Something must be wrong somewhere, and unless it is resolved, the case might travail as it is.Oh yes, that something is called "age". Unfortunately, the only resolution is to go back in time. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 11:10am On May 27, 2013 |
Let's face it, Villa is past it, and is not really relevant to our interests any more. Better he goes somewhere, where he can get more playing time, as well as a central role. He's not really doing it for us the way he should. Congrats to the cules on Neymar's acquisition. Let's all wish him well and hope he rises to the occasion ![]() The odds don't favor him much, everybody seems to think he's another Robinho in the making. I won't dwell too much on that though, but would rather see the other new signings first - goalkeeper, central defender(s), new striker, and (hopefully) a competent fitness trainer. Neymar won't play in defence, midfield, and attack all by himself. In fact , I fancy he will struggle at the start. But let's still see how he does. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by A40(m): 11:53am On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: Let's face it, Villa is past it, and is not really relevant to our interests any more. Better he goes somewhere, where he can get more playing time, as well as a central role. He's not really doing it for us the way he should.New Striker?? Villa.Messi,Neymar,Pedro,Sanchez where the new striker wan play? |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 12:07pm On May 27, 2013 |
A-40:Villa is almost certainly out of Barca in the summer. Alexis is likely to follow, at least while they can still get some cash for him. Pedro will most likely be relegated to the bench, depending on how things pan out. Anyway, Bartomeu (Barca VP) has already indicated that the club is interested in signing a goalkeeper, a central defender, and a forward in the summer. Unless that forward happens to be Neymar sha. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 12:09pm On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: Villa is almost certainly out of Barca in the summer.The forward is definitely Neymar. I dont see Barca getting another forward anytime soon, at least not this summer. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 12:11pm On May 27, 2013 |
dmcdad: The forward is definitely Neymar. I dont see Barca getting another forward anytime soon, at least not this summer.On reflection, that is prolly going to be the case. But either which way, I see no point keeping Villa. They might keep Alexis, since age is on his side and he did cost a lot. But not Villa, he's past it. Better to sell him now before he becomes difficult to get rid of. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 12:27pm On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: On reflection, that is prolly going to be the case. But either which way, I see no point keeping Villa.Yeah you are right, now is the best time to cash-in on Villa. Meanwhile, I guess Alexis is staying cause he said the club asked him to stay irrespective of the offers been put up for him by some clubs... |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AlyricistLaura: 12:30pm On May 27, 2013 |
The guy a few posts above is right....Villa is shot as a footballer... He does not have what it takes to be a leading forward for either of the top spanish sides nor epl. Villa might end up in Italy somewhere....on the outskirts of oblivion LmL.... |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 12:43pm On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: The odds don't favor him much, everybody seems to think he's another Robinho in the making.Not true. Remember Robinho also came from Santos? Well, while Robinho was only known for making an unreasonable number of leg-overs per minute, Neymar actually was behind the best run Santos had since the time of Pele! |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 12:46pm On May 27, 2013 |
logica: Not true. Remember Robinho also came from Santos? Well, while Robinho was only known for making an unreasonable number of leg-overs per minute, Neymar actually was behind the best run Santos had since the time of Pele!I'm referring to Robinho's monumental flop in Europe. There was a huge buzz that followed him from Santos to Madrid, to City, and by the time he was off to Milan, everyone was fed up already. The sporting press seem to think Neymar will travel a similar road. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AlyricistLaura: 12:47pm On May 27, 2013 |
logica: Not true. Remember Robinho also came from Santos?Well, while Robinho was only known for making an unreasonable number of leg-overs per minuteNeymar actually was behind the best run Santos had since the time of Pele!.......lol |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 1:34pm On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: I'm referring to Robinho's monumental flop in Europe.I understand you. What I mean is, I don't agree they will travel similar route simply because Neymar delivered for Santos. Unlike Robinho. You cannot compare their achievements. Winning is a habit that is difficult to forget and Neymar has proven he is a winner. He knows how to grind out wins; and helped Santos on their best run since Pele. Remember Robinho was there before him. Robinho is best compared to Denilson who had barely won anything and therefore not well tested enough before being brought to Europe on an outrageous transfer fee (simply based on promise and the skill of leg-overs). Real Betis is still yet to recover from the Denilson blunder. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 3:05pm On May 27, 2013 |
logica: I understand you. What I mean is, I don't agree they will travel similar route simply because Neymar delivered for Santos. Unlike Robinho. You cannot compare their achievements. Winning is a habit that is difficult to forget and Neymar has proven he is a winner. He knows how to grind out wins; and helped Santos on their best run since Pele. Remember Robinho was there before him.LOL on the leg-overs. Sure hope Neymar proves everyone wrong and combines well with Messi and co. Lord knows we need a new game-changer. Asides Messi, everyone else looks rather played-out, and the newbies (Cesc and co) are not coming good at all, for now. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 3:31pm On May 27, 2013 |
Don't mind the bias articles being put up by Goal.com about how monumental the failure of Neymar have been set up in Barcelona. If you read the article, you will immediately notice that had Neymar joined another team other than Barcelona, that article will never have been written. Articles you would have seen instead is how Neymar will fit in Real Madrid team, Chealse or ManU team or other similar positive articles. It's all beef! There 's no evidence why Neymar will fail in Barcelona. Only few players not even Messi, have scored over 150 senior career goals at tender age of 21, no matter where the goals were scored. If the coaching staff handles him right, he will not be a success, but a huge success. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AjanleKoko: 3:46pm On May 27, 2013 |
Johnpaul88: Don't mind the bias articles being put up by Goal.com about how monumental the failure of Neymar have been set up in Barcelona.^^ Goal.com articles aside, Brazil haven't really been producing brilliant individuals for a while now. Good players, yes, but not the way they used to. Brazil were rolling out geniuses on the trot a couple of decades ago. Nowadays, it seems they shine for a while, but indiscipline etc. does them in, and they flop out. Remember a certain Adriano? Hard not to be skeptical of Brazilian players, when you think about Robinho, and Adriano. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 4:18pm On May 27, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: Hard not to be skeptical of Brazilian players, when you think about Robinho, and Adriano.Well then, to feel better when you think of Brazilian players, think of Ronaldinho, Romario, Dani Alves (of 4 years ago and not the recent one ) etc. Do not focus on the flops. I have identified the reason many Brazilians have been flopping and it's simply because they were all being forced through the Ronaldo De Lima route. Not every player leave the shores of Brazil untested and deliver. People like Romario and even Ronaldinho were well tested before they made the move. And at 21, Neymar has been tested at Santos. Mind you Adriano was not a flop; he simply suffered a psychological breakdown. Just one of the dangers of leaving your country so young to another where you basically find yourself all alone. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dayokanu(m): 4:49pm On May 27, 2013 |
logica: I understand you. What I mean is, I don't agree they will travel similar route simply because Neymar delivered for Santos. Unlike Robinho. You cannot compare their achievements. Winning is a habit that is difficult to forget and Neymar has proven he is a winner. He knows how to grind out wins; and helped Santos on their best run since Pele. Remember Robinho was there before him..Robinho and Diego also painted Santos red with goals and awesome performances before flopping in Europe |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 5:51pm On May 27, 2013 |
dayokanu: Robinho and Diego also painted Santos red with goals and awesome performances before flopping in EuropeYeah Robinho did good at Santos but you would agree with me that he wasn't as good as Neymar when he was 21. Infact, in his entire career, he has never played to the level Neymar has, meanwhile Neymar is just 21. People should cut that guy some slack and see what happens. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by A40(m): 6:01pm On May 27, 2013 |
Neymar is a very good addition! for me he is waaay better than Robinho ever was at any point in his career! I think he needs to spend some quality time in the weight room over the summer to work on his upper body strength! While he might get away with it in Spain he would definitely be eaten alive in Europe! He also needs to chill with the diving but aside from that its not a bad buy at all |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 6:05pm On May 27, 2013 |
dayokanu: Robinho and Diego also painted Santos red with goals and awesome performances before flopping in EuropeThere is a difference between "painting with goals" and winning. How many Copa Libertidores and Brazilian Serie A Championships did Robinho win with Santos? |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Mcleo007(m): 6:35pm On May 27, 2013 |
Well, there are no proving facts to show Neymar would end up a flop so soon, or even in the long in his move to Europe. There is always a first time for everything. That he has not been tested on the much grander stage in Europe or anywhere else does not mean he can't be a massive success just at his first time of asking. African players make it in Europe, though most of them don't enjoy the media hype and grandeur that those South americans, especially Brazilians have. The joke is on the media, and how he turns out in the end is all recourse to how he develops over time. Acquiring him, for me is a smart business move. He comes very close to Messi and CR7 in terms of player marketability. At his very tender age, look at the many endorsements and image rights he's managed to gulp. Kudos to Rosell and the Barca board for pulling this one out successfully. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 6:58pm On May 27, 2013 |
Mcleo007: Acquiring him, for me is a smart business move. He comes very close to Messi and CR7 in terms of player marketability. At his very tender age, look at the many endorsements and image rights he's managed to gulp. Kudos to Rosell and the Barca board for pulling this one out successfully.Dude have you read the news lately? He's even ranked higher than Messi in marketability! |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AlyricistLaura: 7:13pm On May 27, 2013 |
He might be a flop, then again he might not, so many contributing factors . Lifestyle, adjustment to european night life. Some of these brazilian guys come to europe and just seem to not get enough of the euro night life Team Chemistry.....Social Chemistry...Pitch Chemistry... Dealing with the mental comfort of knowing and understanding you aren't the best player on the team...and accepting a #2 Role. These are factors we can not predict how he will adjust to Nobody knows what Neymar will be in Blaugrana.....Nobody. We'll see |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:37pm On May 27, 2013 |
Neymar is a good player who needs a team like Barca to reach his potentials. But he will need to remain humble and never try to compare himself to Messi if he wants to achieve his dream! |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by usbcable(m): 10:24pm On May 27, 2013 |
NEYMAR = good buy. good NEYMAR + good MESSI = europe in trouble |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Mcleo007(m): 10:39pm On May 27, 2013 |
logica: Dude have you read the news lately? He's even ranked higher than Messi in marketability!Not read of that.. If at all, such a source is dubious. Messi is currently the hghest earner in world football in terms of gross earnings from endorsements. In all, what we have are play out factors. So many what ifs, which equals to nuffin real and concrete. Nobody knws for sure whether Neymar would turn out good or not. My only concern is the on pitch effect of having a Messi-Neymar on the same reason end of an attacking move. Both players enjoy being the focal point, how will one bend for the other? Not that alone, we have the country rivalry; Brazil/Argentina, which opens a recourse to the Pele/Maradona comparison since both stars bear liking semblance to the old familiar foes. Both players are good no doubt but having two captains on the same boat has been proven to lead to disaster time and again. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by eyoniggar(op): 12:08am On May 28, 2013 |
In order for things to work out perfectly fine, Neymar needs to humble himself. |
| Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by logica(m): 7:30am On May 28, 2013 |
Mcleo007: Not read of that.. If at all, such a source is dubious. Messi is currently the hghest earner in world football in terms of gross earnings from endorsements.Time and again, Neymar had pointedly stated that he wants to play with Messi. I remember a time where he and Pele were stoking some flames; but just before Barca played Santos at the Club World Cup he changed his tune to one of respect for Messi and Barca. I think Dani Alves had something to do about that. And the demolition of Santos left him in no doubt about how Barca and Messi compared to both Santos and him. Yes nothing is concrete, but Neymar does not rival Messi directly: his preference is to play from the wings. If country rivalry was an issue, Dani Alves would not be so supportive of Messi; and the partnership between Maradona and Careca would not have worked. Footballers as professionals know the difference between playing for club and country. This is a quote of what Neymar said a while back: "I am a Messi fan. I was told what he did today. I support him to score a lot of nice goals so I can keep copying and imitating him."He obviously knows who the shot-caller is, and he will gradually step into that role as Messi's role dwindles in about 5 years from now. By the way: On 8 May 2013, Neymar was rated by SportsPro magazine as the most marketable athlete in the world, ahead of Lionel Messi (2rd) and Cristiano Ronaldo (8th) |
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) etc. Do not focus on the flops. I have identified the reason many Brazilians have been flopping and it's simply because they were all being forced through the Ronaldo De Lima route. Not every player leave the shores of Brazil untested and deliver. People like Romario and even Ronaldinho were well tested before they made the move. And at 21, Neymar has been tested at Santos. Mind you Adriano was not a flop; he simply suffered a psychological breakdown. Just one of the dangers of leaving your country so young to another where you basically find yourself all alone.