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Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 2:06pm On Oct 27, 2013
Dear All, here is my 15- point facts based on my knowledge, experience and exposures on affairs relating to these fraternities:
(1) Ogboni Fraternity is an African Traditional Religion (ATR) with many factions just like Christianity with different types. The most popular is the Reformed Ogboni Fraternity (ROF) and the Aborigine Ogboni Fraternity (AOF)
(2) Both the ROF and the AOF were derived from the Yoruba IFA/Orisha traditional religion which recognises and worships GOD through the Yoruba pantheons like Sango, Obatele, Osun, Ogun, Orunmila, etc.
(3) The Ibo version of Ogboni is the Odinala traditional religion which worships GOD through Chi (one's guardian angel), Amadioha, Ikenga, Agwu, Ezenwayi, etc
(4) The Western version of Ogboni is Christianity religion which worships GOD through Jesus and other dieties and saints found in the Bible.
(5) The Eastern version of Ogboni is Islam religion which worships GOD through Mohammed and other Islamic Saints found in the Holy Quran.
(6) Other eastern versions of Ogboni are Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc which worship GOD through Buddha, Krishna, etc as found in their Holy Books.
(7) In a nutshell, The Greeks worship their own God, Indians their own God, Chinese their own Gods, Israelites their own God, Saudi Arabian their own God, etc. The people of these countries are promoting their gods and Culture and don't regard their God as evil.
(cool Africans that worship their own God through Ogboni and Odinala are constantly stigmatised by their ignorant African brothers and sisters and are accused of worshipping the Devil.
(9) The Stigma attached to worshippers of ATR led to the formation of the ROF which tries to incorporate some masonic styles into Ogboni to make it look western by admitting only Christians and Muslims only in a bid to make the Colonial masters accept the fraternity because they tried to eradicate Ogboni and hence, our African culture completely in other to steal our wealth.
(10)Conclusively, Ogboni, Odinala, Freemansons, Grail Message, AMORC, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, Martinism, etc are the esoteric parts of our exoteric religions and there is NOTHING absolutely EVIL in belonging to any of them at all.
(11) People who seek to belong to these Fraternities are those who are fed up with the exoteric religions and are seeking to know and understand GOD better and to be in union with their Holy Guardian Angel. They know that this Union will protect them, eradicate earthly problems through obeying the inexorable Laws of Nature: "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO DO UNTO YOU"
(12) There are a number of Bad eggs in all these fraternities and religions and to generalise that any of them is bad due to a minority is stereotyping and like calling every Muslim in London and American a terrorist.
(13) GOD is so mighty and magnificent that only ONE religion, fraternity or mode of worship cannot encompass HIM. That is why we are all different in colours, race, languages, tribes, countries, religions, height, riches, etc, etc.
(14) Let us all come together and WORSHIP God in which ever method we believe in and STOP criticizing those ways we do not believe, knowing fully well that ALL things emanate from GOD.
(15) No single religion, fraternities or mode of worship is superior, what matters is the individual person's devotion and practice of LOVE. But since in all these religions, GOD is somewhat worshipped indirectly through Our Forefathers (Mohammed, Jesus, Buddha, Orunmila, Obatele, Krishna, etc. It becomes logical IMHO, to worship God through our traditional pantheons; perhaps, our prayers may be quickly answered as "Blood is thicker than Water"

In the Light of the Greater Lights.
Tiphareth LVX.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by badmeat(m): 2:12pm On Oct 27, 2013
Make my rice done,I will comment later,
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by plaetton: 3:54pm On Oct 27, 2013
@Op
Good piece for young active minds. As for those already contaminated with the toxic religions of the ancient middle east, their enfeebled minds cannot grasp the substance of the op.
This is the chronic illness of the African people.

There is an urgent need fir fresh social engineering project to bring the African mind back to it's roots.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:14pm On Oct 27, 2013
Omo Iya!

Are you omo Iya or just copied stuff from some site?

I got some questions to ask

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by SecretDreams(m): 4:19pm On Oct 27, 2013
In simple words, you are wrong.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by hunter21(m): 10:07pm On Oct 27, 2013
what is the difference between being an awo and being a ogboni?
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:49pm On Oct 27, 2013
hunter2,1:
what is the difference between being an awo and being a ogboni?

Awo is someone initiated into Orisa practise and knows the esoteric basis of each Orisa which sprang down from ancient days. Ogboni is Orisa and Christianity combo frat founded by Ogunbiyi
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 11:53pm On Oct 27, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Omo Iya!

Are you omo Iya or just copied stuff from some site?

I got some questions to ask

This is based on personal experience and the work I have been doing on for several years in christianity, Sharmanism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Alchemy, Esoteric Christianity, Mohammedanism, Hare Krishna, Sufism, Grail Movement, Freemanson, Martinism, Magic, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, New age religion, etc. I have belonged to many of these fraternities in a bid to understand what they do at various times. Hence, my 15-point statement is based on personal experience and not just fallacies, hearsay or what I merely read from websites.
Now, I have returned home after more than 13 years living in the UK. I have finally come to join the religion of my ancestors, "Wetin you dey find go Sokoto, e dey for shokoto trouser".
Tiphareth.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 11:54pm On Oct 27, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

Awo is someone initiated into Orisa practise and knows the esoteric basis of each Orisa which sprang down from ancient days. Ogboni is Orisa and Christianity combo frat founded by Ogunbiyi

Point Blank!! Well done!
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 11:57pm On Oct 27, 2013
Secret_Dreams: In simple words, you are wrong.

Can you substantiate from your personal experience and association rather than from quotes from some Holy book.

Tiphareth,

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Jamji: 3:35pm On Oct 28, 2013
i cant believe i wasted some kb to read this utter rubbish!
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:49pm On Oct 28, 2013
Tiphareth:

This is based on personal experience and the work I have been doing on for several years in christianity, Sharmanism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Alchemy, Esoteric Christianity, Mohammedanism, Hare Krishna, Sufism, Grail Movement, Freemanson, Martinism, Magic, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, New age religion, etc. I have belonged to many of these fraternities in a bid to understand what they do at various times. Hence, my 15-point statement is based on personal experience and not just fallacies, hearsay or what I merely read from websites.
Now, I have returned home after more than 13 years living in the UK. I have finally come to join the religion of my ancestors, "Wetin you dey find go Sokoto, e dey for shokoto trouser".
Tiphareth.

lol. I love people that explore alot. Good job bro.

Im not convinced you Ogboni....you would have understand I was greeting you when I mentioned 'omo Iya'.

And really am 'aguntan' (sheep) as member of the frat call it. But there is this question I really love to ask.......can you share fact about Ogboni prior to the one reformed by Ogunbiyi?

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 1:15pm On Oct 29, 2013
Folykaze,

Send me e-mail at tiphareth.lvx@btinternet.com

Tiphareth
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by greenhope(m): 4:16am On Nov 10, 2013
If all you said is the worship of God which one is the worship of Satan?
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Tiphareth(m): 10:18pm On Nov 20, 2013
It depends on your understanding of the term "Satan". Let me remind you that Satan is an allegory. Satan as they call him is only an energy. I would not want to delve into this issue in details in order not to confuse the uninitiated.....

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by JonesK: 10:26pm On Nov 20, 2013
Tiphareth: It depends on your understanding of the term "Satan". Let me remind you that Satan is an allegory. Satan as they call him is only an energy. I would not want to delve into this issue in details in order not to confuse the uninitiated.....
Please do delve into it
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by chuose: 4:16pm On Oct 12, 2015
all the above worship satan.

The only way to God is through Jesus.

allah na demon.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by codedagent(m): 9:39am On Sep 17, 2016
Tiphareth:
Dear All, here is my 15- point facts based on my knowledge, experience and exposures on affairs relating to these fraternities:
(1) Ogboni Fraternity is an African Traditional Religion (ATR) with many factions just like Christianity with different types. The most popular is the Reformed Ogboni Fraternity (ROF) and the Aborigine Ogboni Fraternity (AOF)
(2) Both the ROF and the AOF were derived from the Yoruba IFA/Orisha traditional religion which recognises and worships GOD through the Yoruba pantheons like Sango, Obatele, Osun, Ogun, Orunmila, etc.
(3) The Ibo version of Ogboni is the Odinala traditional religion which worships GOD through Chi (one's guardian angel), Amadioha, Ikenga, Agwu, Ezenwayi, etc
(4) The Western version of Ogboni is Christianity religion which worships GOD through Jesus and other dieties and saints found in the Bible.
(5) The Eastern version of Ogboni is Islam religion which worships GOD through Mohammed and other Islamic Saints found in the Holy Quran.
(6) Other eastern versions of Ogboni are Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc which worship GOD through Buddha, Krishna, etc as found in their Holy Books.
(7) In a nutshell, The Greeks worship their own God, Indians their own God, Chinese their own Gods, Israelites their own God, Saudi Arabian their own God, etc. The people of these countries are promoting their gods and Culture and don't regard their God as evil.
(cool Africans that worship their own God through Ogboni and Odinala are constantly stigmatised by their ignorant African brothers and sisters and are accused of worshipping the Devil.
(9) The Stigma attached to worshippers of ATR led to the formation of the ROF which tries to incorporate some masonic styles into Ogboni to make it look western by admitting only Christians and Muslims only in a bid to make the Colonial masters accept the fraternity because they tried to eradicate Ogboni and hence, our African culture completely in other to steal our wealth.
(10)Conclusively, Ogboni, Odinala, Freemansons, Grail Message, AMORC, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, Martinism, etc are the esoteric parts of our exoteric religions and there is NOTHING absolutely EVIL in belonging to any of them at all.
(11) People who seek to belong to these Fraternities are those who are fed up with the exoteric religions and are seeking to know and understand GOD better and to be in union with their Holy Guardian Angel. They know that this Union will protect them, eradicate earthly problems through obeying the inexorable Laws of Nature: "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO DO UNTO YOU"
(12) There are a number of Bad eggs in all these fraternities and religions and to generalise that any of them is bad due to a minority is stereotyping and like calling every Muslim in London and American a terrorist.
(13) GOD is so mighty and magnificent that only ONE religion, fraternity or mode of worship cannot encompass HIM. That is why we are all different in colours, race, languages, tribes, countries, religions, height, riches, etc, etc.
(14) Let us all come together and WORSHIP God in which ever method we believe in and STOP criticizing those ways we do not believe, knowing fully well that ALL things emanate from GOD.
(15) No single religion, fraternities or mode of worship is superior, what matters is the individual person's devotion and practice of LOVE. But since in all these religions, GOD is somewhat worshipped indirectly through Our Forefathers (Mohammed, Jesus, Buddha, Orunmila, Obatele, Krishna, etc. It becomes logical IMHO, to worship God through our traditional pantheons; perhaps, our prayers may be quickly answered as "Blood is thicker than Water"

In the Light of the Greater Lights.
Tiphareth LVX.

This is absolute bullshit and nonsense.
You''re still in the dark, try to embrace light so that you will be enlightened. salt, Red oil, pepper, water, vegetables, fish etc are used to cook soup but for different purposes.
So keep your mouth shut and stop saying what you don't understand for what you don't know is bigger than you.
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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by 4amorc(m): 4:59pm On Jan 05, 2017
codedagent:


This is absolute bullshit and nonsense.
You''re still in the dark, try to embrace light so that you will be enlightened. salt, Red oil, pepper, water, vegetables, fish etc are used to cook soup but for different purposes.
So keep your mouth shut and stop saying what you don't understand for what you don't know is bigger than you.
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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by kingkoboko: 7:35am On Aug 21, 2022
hmmm...
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by knowingChrist(m): 8:02am On Aug 21, 2022
Weldone, This is a beautiful piece. I really enjoy when people take time study and come with Their findings, however wrong or right they might be.

That said, I'll like to tell you that you were unstable on so many occasion and need to find a balance.

To say all religions worship the same God is not just a mistake, it's a grave mistake. The sacrifice of humans in many religions is detestable in the worship of God through Christ. Why will one God have different standards. Is he then a partial God? Or is he a confused God?

I think the confusion is among humans just as Satan caused at the tower of Babel. That same confusion is on your face and this is why you're in grave error. I'll advice you take time to read the bible and study about Christ.

Tiphareth:


This is based on personal experience and the work I have been doing on for several years in christianity, Sharmanism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Alchemy, Esoteric Christianity, Mohammedanism, Hare Krishna, Sufism, Grail Movement, Freemanson, Martinism, Magic, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, New age religion, etc. I have belonged to many of these fraternities in a bid to understand what they do at various times. Hence, my 15-point statement is based on personal experience and not just fallacies, hearsay or what I merely read from websites.
Now, I have returned home after more than 13 years living in the UK. I have finally come to join the religion of my ancestors, "Wetin you dey find go Sokoto, e dey for shokoto trouser".
Tiphareth.
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by Maynman: 9:47am On Aug 21, 2022
The Roman verison of ogboni is Chrestianity.
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by LikeAking: 1:17pm On Aug 21, 2022
Op let's speak d truth.

The worshipers of African God's, use dia powers to harm people and do evil. Most of the wicked and heartless polictians derive thier powers from African God's.

So it normal for people to stigmatize them.

Don't blame Dem.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by oteneaaron(m): 2:32pm On Aug 21, 2022
Tiphareth:
Dear All, here is my 15- point facts based on my knowledge, experience and exposures on affairs relating to these fraternities:
(1) Ogboni Fraternity is an African Traditional Religion (ATR) with many factions just like Christianity with different types. The most popular is the Reformed Ogboni Fraternity (ROF) and the Aborigine Ogboni Fraternity (AOF)
(2) Both the ROF and the AOF were derived from the Yoruba IFA/Orisha traditional religion which recognises and worships GOD through the Yoruba pantheons like Sango, Obatele, Osun, Ogun, Orunmila, etc.
(3) The Ibo version of Ogboni is the Odinala traditional religion which worships GOD through Chi (one's guardian angel), Amadioha, Ikenga, Agwu, Ezenwayi, etc
(4) The Western version of Ogboni is Christianity religion which worships GOD through Jesus and other dieties and saints found in the Bible.
(5) The Eastern version of Ogboni is Islam religion which worships GOD through Mohammed and other Islamic Saints found in the Holy Quran.
(6) Other eastern versions of Ogboni are Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc which worship GOD through Buddha, Krishna, etc as found in their Holy Books.
(7) In a nutshell, The Greeks worship their own God, Indians their own God, Chinese their own Gods, Israelites their own God, Saudi Arabian their own God, etc. The people of these countries are promoting their gods and Culture and don't regard their God as evil.
(cool Africans that worship their own God through Ogboni and Odinala are constantly stigmatised by their ignorant African brothers and sisters and are accused of worshipping the Devil.
(9) The Stigma attached to worshippers of ATR led to the formation of the ROF which tries to incorporate some masonic styles into Ogboni to make it look western by admitting only Christians and Muslims only in a bid to make the Colonial masters accept the fraternity because they tried to eradicate Ogboni and hence, our African culture completely in other to steal our wealth.
(10)Conclusively, Ogboni, Odinala, Freemansons, Grail Message, AMORC, Eckankar, Golden Dawn, Martinism, etc are the esoteric parts of our exoteric religions and there is NOTHING absolutely EVIL in belonging to any of them at all.
(11) People who seek to belong to these Fraternities are those who are fed up with the exoteric religions and are seeking to know and understand GOD better and to be in union with their Holy Guardian Angel. They know that this Union will protect them, eradicate earthly problems through obeying the inexorable Laws of Nature: "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO DO UNTO YOU"
(12) There are a number of Bad eggs in all these fraternities and religions and to generalise that any of them is bad due to a minority is stereotyping and like calling every Muslim in London and American a terrorist.
(13) GOD is so mighty and magnificent that only ONE religion, fraternity or mode of worship cannot encompass HIM. That is why we are all different in colours, race, languages, tribes, countries, religions, height, riches, etc, etc.
(14) Let us all come together and WORSHIP God in which ever method we believe in and STOP criticizing those ways we do not believe, knowing fully well that ALL things emanate from GOD.
(15) No single religion, fraternities or mode of worship is superior, what matters is the individual person's devotion and practice of LOVE. But since in all these religions, GOD is somewhat worshipped indirectly through Our Forefathers (Mohammed, Jesus, Buddha, Orunmila, Obatele, Krishna, etc. It becomes logical IMHO, to worship God through our traditional pantheons; perhaps, our prayers may be quickly answered as "Blood is thicker than Water"

In the Light of the Greater Lights.
Tiphareth LVX.

This sounds similar to the esoteric teachings of the mystery schools in ancient Egypt.
Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by oteneaaron(m): 2:35pm On Aug 21, 2022
LikeAking:
Op let's speak d truth.

The worshipers of African God's, use dia powers to harm people and do evil. Most of the wicked and heartless polictians derive thier powers from African God's.

So it normal for people to stigmatize them.

Don't blame Dem.

Just like electricity that can be used for both good and bad, there are many people who understand the laws that govern the universe but decide to use this knowledge for evil.

Instead of teaching people how to control their own minds, they end up controlling the minds of the ignorant populace.

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Re: Ogboni, Odinala, Freemanson And Amorc Fraternities - The Absolute Facts by slimik: 2:55pm On Mar 20, 2023
Real talk.
oteneaaron:


Just like electricity that can be used for both good and bad, there are many people who understand the laws that govern the universe but decide to use this knowledge for evil.

Instead of teaching people how to control their own minds, they end up controlling the minds of the ignorant populace.

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