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BluIvy: Africa for Africans my foot! Are running from your HELL hole. Hope you get xenophobed soon. Jou vark!

"xenophobed" is a verb. LMFAO.
consequences of Bantu education.

If Africa is not for Africans, then Nigerian sites are not for Tswanas.

Apatheist: "xenophobed" is a verb. LMFAO.
consequences of Bantu education.

If Africa is not for Africans, then Nigerian sites are not for Tswanas.

Ofcouse dammbboo! I meant exactly that. Be a victim of xenophobia. I did not want to use necklace. See an illiterate illegal immigrant trying to playteacher.
Stop before you expose yourself further.

This site is owned by an individual not a country. Sean holds all the rights of whom is allowed or not on his site. When you stop the pimping job and open your own you can then say that.

donodion: Really...this is appalling

Yeah! Before getting appalled, please read the whole thread with this he goat calling people "magoshas"!

Don't be one sided.

BluIvy: Ofcouse dammbboo! I meant exactly that. Be a victim of xenophobia. I did not want to use necklace. See an illiterate illegal immigrant trying to playteacher.
Stop before you expose yourself further.

This site is owned by an individual not a country. Sean holds all the rights of whom is allowed or not on his site. When you stop the pimping job and open your own you can then say that.

Kikikikiki. You're trying to cover your ass. It's all good, thando.

Nairaland is owned by a Nigerian, and the site is for Nigerians .
Pimping? Kikikikiki. why are you telling everyone that I'm your love-vendor?

I am an south african, i found this site by luck. in sa im in port elizaberth I am suprised to see how u hate us. Xenophobic attacks never happen in PE...somalians own shops they are axempted from paying tax from thier suppliers now they sell cheaper than local shop owners. so the locals are forced to close thier shops. Secondly zimbabwean,malawian & other africans work for less than Safrcan poor causing a problem when locals r on strike they wnt to work , it bcomes a problem they are seen as traitors. i am not saying we are right but we have problems our peacefull democracy made us poor. we were excluded from the sa economy fr far too long. No safrican planned to hate other africans, we are not fools by avoiding conflict with whites peace is everything. my neibours are zims by the way we live peacefully they came to c ma new born child and bought sum gifts.its not as bad as bbc potrays it .

sostoz: I am an south african, i found this site by luck. in sa im in port elizaberth I am suprised to see how u hate us. Xenophobic attacks never happen in PE...somalians own shops they are axempted from paying tax from thier suppliers now they sell cheaper than local shop owners. so the locals are forced to close thier shops. Secondly zimbabwean,malawian & other africans work for less than Safrcan poor causing a problem when locals r on strike they wnt to work , it bcomes a problem they are seen as traitors. i am not saying we are right but we have problems our peacefull democracy made us poor. we were excluded from the sa economy fr far too long. No safrican planned to hate other africans, we are not fools by avoiding conflict with whites peace is everything. my neibours are zims by the way we live peacefully they came to c ma new born child and bought sum gifts.its not as bad as bbc potrays it .

THe usual sob story. How can a foreigner become a traitor?. Is it not your country. Can you not create jobs or figure out ways to eliminate the competition by using your brains.

Why are you not chasing out all the "europeans", Pakistani and chinese that are flooding your country as well, setting up businessess and stealing your jobs?

clever nigerians y protect drug lords in SA. u hate us bcoz we speak out about how nigerians behave in foreign countries. respect safricans in SA its not ur country. and liv black sa alone. unlike u we continue to build malls in our townships and our roads are tarred. we may be less intellects than u bt our gvnment listern when speak.

Apatheist:
BluIvy sticking her nose into
people's business happened.
she's not even south African.

she is south african coz she doesnt need need to marry local man or speak english when speaking to safrican. we speak her tswana and the are xhosaz n zuluz in botswana .u dnt know southern africa if u knew u will know lesotho, swaziland and botswana are countries after related to sa bcoz its made of tribes from safrica during the king shaka zulu wars.we were zuluz then we bacame xhosas,tswanas etc.

Sostoz I wouldn't waste my time arguing with these people because you won't convince them otherwise. They've made up their minds

sostoz: clever nigerians y protect drug lords in SA. u hate us bcoz we speak out about how nigerians behave in foreign countries. respect safricans in SA its not ur country. and liv black sa alone. unlike u we continue to build malls in our townships and our roads are tarred. we may be less intellects than u bt our gvnment listern when speak.

I do not like drug dealers. Pleae deport them from your country with immediate effect. They are a nuisance.

You don't know anything about nigerians outside of Nigeria, other than what you read on the internet.

Your government has no choice but to listen because the institutional systems and structures left by colonials and settlers lasting 300+ years is still in place plus the struggle against apatheid mitigated the incidence of tribalism in favor of nationalism. You lucked out!

sostoz: Apatheist:
BluIvy sticking her nose into
people's business happened.
she's not even south African.
she is south african coz she doesnt need need to marry local man or speak english when speaking to safrican. we speak her tswana and the are xhosaz n zuluz in botswana .u dnt know southern africa if u knew u will know lesotho, swaziland and botswana are countries after related to sa bcoz its made of tribes from safrica during the king shaka zulu wars.we were zuluz then we bacame xhosas,tswanas etc.

If any of what you said above makes sense then The Ndebele i.e. the Zimbabweans should be considered south africans by extension as well since they spawned from Zulu nations.

Proto- Nguni tribes coming from east Africa headed southwards spawned the zulus, ndebele, xhosa, swati and other related tribes. Tswana, pedi and sotho are more related because they share the same ancestor.

As for BLuIvy, we are only following her peoples customs. If you are born in Botswana of a Mostswana father, you are Botswana. Is it not recent that they changed laws for females to pass citizenship to their offspring.

Please go back to school!

sostoz: Apatheist:
BluIvy sticking her nose into
people's business happened.
she's not even south African.

she is south african coz she doesnt need need to marry local man or speak english when speaking to safrican. we speak her tswana and the are xhosaz n zuluz in botswana .u dnt know southern africa if u knew u will know lesotho, swaziland and botswana are countries after related to sa bcoz its made of tribes from safrica during the king shaka zulu wars.we were zuluz then we bacame xhosas,tswanas etc.

So if I speak Tswana, Xhosa, or Zulu, I'm automatically south African?
Bantu education is not good.

For the second part about the tribes of sa, read Morpheus' reply.

ATTENTION sostoz!!!!!!

Don't bother explaining the 2008 xenophobic attacks in this forum, many of us have tried with no success. It's just something that Naijas will harp on for centuries to come.

What matters is that SA continues to welcome foreigner who do things legit.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Most-immigrants-to-SA-from-Zimbabwe-20140715

paniki: ATTENTION sostoz!!!!!!
Don't bother explaining the 2008 xenophobic attacks in this forum, many of us have tried with no success. It's just something that Naijas will harp on for centuries to come.
What matters is that SA continues to welcome foreigner who do things legit.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Most-immigrants-to-SA-from-Zimbabwe-20140715

Ahh paniki, always the apologist.

morpheus24: Ahh paniki, always the apologist.

Don't mind me. I've just resigned myself to the fact that Naijas will forever call out the events of 2008. A lot like how black people in SA always bring up apartheid everytime there's some issue with white people.

And the people of Zimbabwe are mainly Shona not Ndebele

paniki: Don't mind me. I've just resigned myself to the fact that Naijas will forever call out the events of 2008. A lot like how black people in SA always bring up apartheid everytime there's some issue with white people.
And the people of Zimbabwe are mainly Shona not Ndebele

Tis the same sin we have to live with with the designation "drug dealer" when practically the percentage of people that do this relative to 150 million people is minuscle. Such is life.

Ps I never said Shona outnumbered the Ndebele. What I said is the Ndebele are closely related to the zulu, share the same ancestors and share the same experiences concerning settler experiences so technically they can be considered South African in terms of "experience"

morpheus24: Tis the same sin we have to live with with the designation "drug dealer" when practically the percentage of people that do this relative to 150 million people is minuscle. Such is life.

Ps I never said Shona outnumbered the Ndebele. What I said is the Ndebele are closely related to the zulu, share the same ancestors and share the same experiences concerning settler experiences so technically they can be considered South African in terms of "experience"

Nigerians abroad are synonymous with drug dealing and illicit activities but there are upstanding, educated and law-abiding Nigerians scattered among the rot in many countries across the world. I know a few personally, two are academics at the local varsities.

There's a large population of Ndebele people in SA and they are know for their colourful clothes and houses. And Ndebele is one of the 11 official languages. Ndebeles from Zimbabwe and Batswana from Botswana have never really experienced any xenophobia, a sign that they are considered part of the people of South Africa. It all has to do with language - if you speak one of the local languages then you are considered local.

Edit. same for Swatis from Swaziland and Basotho from Lesotho.

paniki: Nigerians abroad are synonymous with drug dealing and illicit activities but there are upstanding, educated and law-abiding Nigerians scattered among the rot in many countries across the world. I know a few personally, two are academics at the local varsities.
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In south Africa maybe, this may be true because the majority that travel there are an exponential brand of jobless and less well off groups who could not make it to the west.

As far as other western countries, The US and the UK I can attest to, a majority of them are in school, set up legitimate businesses or integrate comfortably into main stream life.

lol fact is we are related to botswana, lesotho and swaziland. becoz we are all bantuz. immigraton laws will not be a big issue bcoz they wont need a plane ticket to go home. lol any positive things in this nairaland anyway it's a nice site ...world class kudos to the administrator ...nigerians are gud in ICT and home videos

Its long overdue, people have been abusing SA immigration laws. To such an extent that SA citizens lost their free visa requirement to UK, thanks to Nigerians.

14: Its long overdue, people have been abusing SA immigration laws. To such an extent that SA citizens lost their free visa requirement to UK, thanks to Nigerians.

You're welcome.
Any other way we can help? Like say, make you the rape capital of the world?

14: Its long overdue, people have been abusing SA immigration laws. To such an extent that SA citizens lost their free visa requirement to UK, thanks to Nigerians.

Another huge lie.

The reason SOuth Africa lost visa waivers to Uk primarily had to do with the numerous number of Paki and indians that bought Sa passports for cheap and made their way to England.

sostoz: lol fact is we are related to botswana, lesotho and swaziland. becoz we are all bantuz. immigraton laws will not be a big issue bcoz they wont need a plane ticket to go home. lol any positive things in this nairaland anyway it's a nice site ...world class kudos to the administrator ...nigerians are gud in ICT and home videos

Don't you have land borders

PS, i can show you how related your are to Somali Bantu, that doesn't tell us much at all.

Zim man takes Home Affairs to court

July 13 2014 at 01:03pm
By FATIMA SCHROEDER AND WENDYLL MARTIN

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Cape Town - A Zimbabwean father was arrested this week and is at risk of being deported as an illegal immigrant – all because he took a job at a petrol station, contrary to the terms of his permit that he works as a domestic worker instead.

Immigration officials believe that Trust Chepesani lied, and never intended to be a domestic worker at all.

They say the fact that he works at a petrol station amounts to a breach of the terms of his work permit.

Police arrested him on Tuesday and detained him at the Ravensmead Police Station’s holding cells for the purpose of deportation.

For days he couldn’t work or see his two-week-old baby.

By sunset on Friday he had still not been released, prompting his lawyers to take action.

They lodged an urgent application in the Western Cape High Court, asking for his immediate release on the basis that the Immigration Act states that detention for deportation must be confirmed by a warrant of court within 48 hours.

Chepesani did not appear before a magistrate, and the lawyers argued that, to detain him further, was unlawful.

In an affidavit, Munyaradzi Nkomo, a candidate attorney at immigration firm Craig Smith and Associates, said he was told a magistrate at the Bellville Magistrate’s Court was only available to hear the matter tomorrow, which meant Chepesani would remain behind bars for the weekend.

This, Nkomo said, amounted to an infringement of Chepesani’s rights to freedom and security.

He added that Chepesani’s baby’s rights were also violated by his continued detention, saying the constitution provided that a child’s rights in any matter were paramount.

The matter went to court at 8pm on Friday but, by then, lawyers for the Home Affairs department had agreed to release him.

Judge Siraj Desai made the agreement an order of court.

However, the department refused to return Chepesani’s passport.

Chepesani’s counsel, Adam Brink, pointed out in court that the passport was the property of the Zimbabwean government, and was Chepesani’s primary source of identification which he needed to register his newborn child.

However, arguing for the department, Hayley Slingers submitted that Chepesani had a chequered history, saying he had come to South Africa previously – in 2007 – via Musina, Limpopo, without a permit or passport.

He was later granted amnesty and, when he next entered the country, he obtained his current permit which validates him to work as a domestic worker – a job he doesn’t hold today.

Slingers alleged that Chepesani obtained the work permit through “fraudulent misrepresentation” – words which Judge Desai described as “harsh”.

She offered to provide Chepesani with a certified copy of his passport, saying: “He is going to do whatever he can to stay, whether legal or illegal.”

The judge said the case involved fundamental liberties.

“It’s a serious matter to detain a man for even an hour more than he should,” he said.

He added he was unable to apportion blame because, on the one hand, the immigration officials claimed a magistrate was not available, while, on the other, the magistrates claimed they were not told that the 48-hour period had expired.

“But whoever is to blame, it is a totally unsatisfactory state of affairs,” Judge Desai said.

He directed the Home Affairs department to provide Chepesani with documents to prevent his re-arrest and protect him during his release.

The Minister of Home Affairs was ordered to pay costs.

It is high time SA citizens to wake up from their slumber and stop blaming foreigners for problems caused by SA Citizens.i have never seen where young men so lazy like South Africans,while the women are trying and industrious ,most men are just lazy and just want fast money not ready to do any tedious jobs ,these are jobs foreigners do with happiness and joy without complaining.They claimed that foreigners have taken all their shops,stores and WOMEN,these stores were vacant before foreigners came in.They don't want foreigners especially Nigerians yet SA WOMEN KEEP pursuing Nigerian men simply because their men so lazy and don't understand the concept of marriage and love.More importantly in every sector of SA Economy Nigerians are doing very well from medical,Business and educational sphere.Without Mincing words,there is no university in SA WITHOUT Nigerians working as lecturers or researchers. Even though some Nigerians engage in illegal dealings the number is low compare to those doing in legal business and working legally in SA . The Indians and the white are busy empowering their children with education and skills to conquer the future while black SA are busy spreading HIV, attacking and blaming foreigners. The crime rate in SA could be attributed to Laziness,illiteracy and ignorance not foreigners,no Nigerian citizen will rape a child of two years like what have been happening in SA on daily basis.Nigerians are the most industrious people in the world.The liberated SA citizens are nice and accommodating i have few of them as friends,but majority HATE anything call NIGERIA..In a nutshell,every country has good and bad citizens and no country can succeed in isolation. CA

Above all,if all foreigners leave SA the economy will collapse within 24hours.

U are day dreaming! That economy grew frm a debt infested wite economy. U so obsessed wth succes of blcksa lol y cnt u do da same in in lagos if u dat gud! Lol u are hv empty pride BBC NIGERia bantus are in southern africa and doing well. Fix west africa b4 s.a

Sostoz! Did you say success of black SA? Success in spreading HIV,molesting of children is that success to you? To you that is success but for a sane being that is FAILURE.

If i wr u i would fokus on Boko haram. Blcksa doesnt do terror we do strikes and boycots. Infact SANDF would hav found those children now u begging 4 whites to help u! U hv empty pride! Hv u heard our music is in our own lingoz. Find those galz find BH. Ur defense army is exposed, incompetant. We had BOERAMAG they tried that bt wr detected. No forein white aid needed. U make me laugh!

samtol4: It is high time SA citizens to wake up from their slumber and stop blaming foreigners for problems caused by SA Citizens.i have never seen where young men so lazy like South Africans,while the women are trying and industrious ,most men are just lazy and just want fast money not ready to do any tedious jobs ,these are jobs foreigners do with happiness and joy without complaining.They claimed that foreigners have taken all their shops,stores and WOMEN,these stores were vacant before foreigners came in.They don't want foreigners especially Nigerians yet SA WOMEN KEEP pursuing Nigerian men simply because their men so lazy and don't understand the concept of marriage and love.More importantly in every sector of SA Economy Nigerians are doing very well from medical,Business and educational sphere.Without Mincing words,there is no university in SA WITHOUT Nigerians working as lecturers or researchers. Even though some Nigerians engage in illegal dealings the number is low compare to those doing in legal business and working legally in SA . The Indians and the white are busy empowering their children with education and skills to conquer the future while black SA are busy spreading HIV, attacking and blaming foreigners. The crime rate in SA could be attributed to Laziness,illiteracy and ignorance not foreigners,no Nigerian citizen will rape a child of two years like what have been happening in SA on daily basis.Nigerians are the most industrious people in the world.The liberated SA citizens are nice and accommodating i have few of them as friends,but majority HATE anything call NIGERIA..In a nutshell,every country has good and bad citizens and no country can succeed in isolation. CA

Are you smoking something?

So if South Africans were so lazy like i always hear on this forum, who built their infrustructure the very hard working illegal immigrants are enjoying?
If south africans were lazy, south africa wouldnt look the way it looks today, get that in yo skull.

You say nigerians are the most industrious people in the world, i ask you again, what are you smoking?
Lets assume they are, would nigeria look the way it looks today, if nigerians were so clever.

If nigerians failed to improve nigeria, we dont expect them to improve SA. South Africa is for south africans, whether they are rapists or murderers, it is still their own country, just like nigeria belonging to nigerians. Respect that

14: Are you smoking something?

So if South Africans were so lazy like i always hear on this forum, who built their infrustructure infrastructure the very hard working illegal immigrants are enjoying?

The Boer. Before they came your ancestors were running unclad marrying 7 wives.

If south africans were lazy, south africa wouldnt wouldn't look the way it looks today, get that in yo skull.

If the white men didn't come, South Africans would still be goat herders.

You say nigerians Nigerians are the most industrious people in the world, i ask you again, what are you smoking?
Lets assume they are, would nigeria Nigeria look the way it looks today, if nigeriansNigerians were so clever.

Nigerians own and run Nigeria. If anything is wrong we are to blame, not "foreigners"

If nigeriansNigerians failed to improve nigeria, Nigeria we dontdon't expect them to improve SA.

Who says we want to improve Mzansi?

South Africa is for south africans, whether they are rapists or murderers, it is still their own country, just like nigeriaNigeria belonging to nigerians. Nigerians Respect that

South(ern) Africa is for the Khoisan, Bantu.

samtol4: Above all,if all foreigners leave SA the economy will collapse within 24hours.

How so? Please elaborate on that.
Because the money they earn is sent home, then it does not contribute to local economy, but if that petrol attendant was a South African, he would spend all his earnings in SA, so boosting the local economy.

Let south africans run their own country, no body ask nigeria questions wheh they change their laws or chase Ghanaians. Its their rights, its their country