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Even we the ibaji's from kogi state are looked upon as fake igalas even in our own state. So I understand d message d op is passing across. It wont be easy to get recognition, but it's worth the try.

Klinee:
No not the one in ogbaru

Why not the one in Ogbaru?? Are you not drawing the lines again? Continue, we shall see where you'll stop?
Tell them the history of Odekpes, are u denying you don't know it? Mtcheeeewww!!!

iyeachile:
Even we the ibaji's from kogi state are looked upon as fake igalas even in our own state. So I understand d message d op is passing across. It wont be easy to get recognition, but it's worth the try.

So, who are seen as the real Igalas?

chinchong:
u rep us wella bro.God wey sabi for heaven go replenish ur power............more plot to ur land bro.

ur are welcome,comrade! Nah God o,but land no dey cheap again these days o......

Klinee:
Ebu and oloshi speaks igala and they are in oshoimili north.

hey Oloshi is illushi..in do state oo..ebu is cut to delta state..but its all in the same...place...ebu people choose to be with delta..and olosi choose to be with edo state...all this are border the river niger and ibaji LGA kogi state...ok....thats where am from..i am a full blooded igalan ooo...so...take note i know those area well ebu n oloshi

Deltagiant:
@ the bolded, are you sure you know what you are talking about? The areas you are talking about have always been Igbo culturally dominated areas with Igala co-habitation right from human history. They've been so before anything Nigeria was formed, they've been Igbo dominated even during the civil war. All the chiefs of the towns have been Igbo since human recollection. Respect should however be accorded to the minority even as the presence of the majority should equally be recognized. I know the chief of Nzam personally, a nice human being and very good friend of my dad. HRH Igwe James Chukwuemeka Okolo is a man that loves his community as a whole, Igala or Igbo notwithstanding

I'm for such co-habitation and cultural plurality and harmony. So I appreciate you perspective.

To be fair to the OP he asserted that he has not been personally discriminated against (which is a testament to the loftiness of the Igbo)
But given the issue OP raised on therecognition of igalla language in school/media and ignoble response from some irrational loudmouthed neathathal igbo on the thread (see post below). Someone got to set them straight.

01karma:
.. Op abeg stop talking that nonsense jor. Do you know that there are some igbos who are part of other non speaking igbo state who want to be united with their brother?? Let do trade by bater. You go back, they come back.

Instead of you to be thinking on how to go back to kogi, you want to continue been a minority?

see let me tell you, in the next 10years if care is not taken, you guys would be Igbonized in Anambra state and no trace, i mean no trace of your cultural existance would be found. I am from Enugu state and i feel for my people who are not part of the larger igbo community and i believe one day we would be united again.

please better think of going back to kogi instead of claming to be an Amanbra preson. We all know you are not, maybe when you guys are igbonized, we will now accept you

Hitler have spoken.
All hail the Fuhrer!
Let us segregate them. They are not Anambra enough. Not even Igbo what a shame.
Maybe you can build a n apartheid wall around them like the one in West Bank to keep them out of the mainstream Anambra (o ye from the tribe of Judah)
Maybe we adopt the FINAL SOLUTION and exterminate them so that "no trace of your cultural existance would be found."

Gucciboss:
@bencobenz. You must have served there in 2000 not presently. Even the OP did not complain about infrastructural neglect but language. Stop painting an old picture of the place. There was a time when there was no road anywhwere in Anambra state but not presently. Alot did change under PETER OBI. Now get back to the same bus and confirm for yourself.

Now hear it now, wat bencobenz said is 100% true.

rhymz:
Chineke!!!! Pius Omachonu is the name of my class mate in St Finbarrs College..... I did not know the boy was igala (not that I knew anything about igala minorities in Anambra then) but the guy obviously flowed more with Igbo and Calabar and a South South guys than any other tribe...... Wow..... It is possible the igwe is his uncle.

I say we speak igbo fluently

thewarrior72:
Op better get use to been true & true Anambra & discard your damn language or get the hell out of Anambra territory

How can you tell somebody to discard his language? This is wrong.

ACM10:
Why are you contradicting yourself? In a twinkle of an eye, you have recognised that ABS Onitsha broadcasts some news contents in Igala. Now you want ABS Awka to follow suit even when Igala communities does not receive their signal. Please find something else to say.

How do u know that we dont recieve abs awka signal?

JonBee1:
I'm for such co-habitation and cultural plurality and harmony. So I appreciate you perspective.

To be fair to the OP he asserted that he has not been personally discriminated against (which is a testament to the loftiness of the Igbo)
But given the issue OP raised on the igalla language in school and ignoble response from some irrational loudmouthed neathathal igbo on the thread (see post below). Someone got to set them straight.



Hitler have spoken.
All hail the Fuhrer!
Let us segregate them. They are not Anambra enough. Not even Igbo what a shame.
Maybe you can build a n apartheid wall around them like the one in West Bank to keep them out of the mainstream Anambra (o ye from the tribe of Judah)
Maybe we adopt the FINAL SOLUTION and exterminate them so that "no trace of your cultural existance would be found."

The only way you can educate yourself from the internet is to not join issues with any body that rushes to the key board to write nonsense. You'll unknowingly become like them when you begin to exchange perspesctives based on their level of reasoning. What joins the Ibaji-Igalas with their Igbo brothers is much older and deeper than all these rantings here. Just select the comments you respond to.

Afam4eva:
So, who are seen as the real Igalas?

the ' real igalas' are those from dekina, ankpa , idah, ofu. Etc.

Afam4eva:
So, who are seen as the real Igalas?

the ' real igalas' are those from dekina, ankpa , idah, ofu. Etc. That's according to them.

rigarmortis:
[s]Use your drugs!

two tabs twices daily with meals before you post.[/s]

The Truth is bitter to the ears.

If you can't point out were I was wrong in my post, just waka pass and shut up!

Unlike you, I do not live in denial.

Kruzilano:
is it d work of th anambra state gov to hlp keep ur language? First, wat are u guys doing in anambra state? Kano is a northern state with igbos occupying the largest LGA, but the media over dia do not even recognise our language(igbo). U are questioning someone in his home why isn't he recognising ur lang. I laff u in igaala

I laugh at your ignorancy. So i should not be recognise in my fatherland? We are not perching in anambra , we full blooded indigene of anambra just like the igbos in anambra too.

iyeachile:
the ' real igalas' are those from dekina, ankpa , idah, ofu. Etc.

It is always the case with communities living in the heart of an ethnic group; they are unadulterated so to say. But you begin to observe residual cultural influence towards the borders.

Like in Ibaji and Echeno, they are more or less Igbo which many Nigerians do not know. The traditional ruler of Echeno is HRH Joshua ANAZODO, Igbo lineage. Then for Ibaji, your guess is as good as mine. I have already mentioned important Anambra people with Igala surname and lineage as well. This is what i am saying, people should read and ask themselves questions instead of these emotional petty jabs going on here.

Joavid:
The Truth is bitter to the ears.

If you can't point out were I was wrong in my post, just waka pass and shut up!

Unlike you, I do not live in denial.

You are a total waste of sperm, you should tied to a stake and executed, it would save the world the horror and doom looming with the allowed spread of your moronic gene pool.


You can also do the world a favour by serving humanity, take a rope, tie round your neck and jump off a cliff.


However, before then if you ever want to engage in coitus with whoever is deranged enough to be your BF, the village drunk maybe, make sure he uses a condom, infact make sure he wears three, we dont want to take any chances here.



Peace.

iyeachile:
Even we the ibaji's from kogi state are looked upon as fake igalas even in our own state. So I understand d message d op is passing across. It wont be easy to get recognition, but it's worth the try.

wether you are looked upon as fake igalas or not, atleast you are well recognised as igalas, you dont have a problem because you well known and accepted in you home state unlike your brother in other state that fell marginalised. thank God for you.

Emyogalanya:
Come o which odekpe are you talking about is it my village in ogbaru or another one ur ppl are only allowed during offor festival cos you lied that you have our kind of masquerade but there're not indigen that is igala speaking by birth from anibueze, isiora, okpaika, to ogbe-etiti stop claiming idekeland

buhahagahahahahahahaha guy you are Igala, stop runing away from your tribe its not good o

Klinee:
They normal use 2% but we exceed that, we are about 5%+. Nzam is not the only town that speaks Igala in Anambra, i mention many towns in my previous post. I say Nzam is largest town in anambra west l.g.a not in anambra state. I think u are lying, no Nzam person will ever clamor to join kogi instead will fight for our own state becos oil we get it in aboundant. Orient company are here in Nzam more than any other place.

I seriously doubt that you're up to 5% of the population of Anambra state,your part of the state has the lowest population of the senatorial zones in the state,I know,I've been there,more of bushes and land than people around,so I find that assertion hard to believe..

iyeachile:
Even we the ibaji's from kogi state are looked upon as fake igalas even in our own state. So I understand d message d op is passing across. It wont be easy to get recognition, but it's worth the try.

The ajaokuta people in ebira land, the egbira's in Edo state and the Egbira's in Koton Karfe are looked upon as fake ebira's and that doesn't mean they are actually fake.
We were all one in the beginning.

The answer lies in history

Klinee:
thanks for your understanding

wow! I am from ananbra state but this is the first time I am hearing that we have two languages

I was surprised to know that a course mate of mine of Igala tribe is from Anambra state.
His facial marks said it all. I never knew that there is Igala tribe in Anambra state even though I have lived in the state for more than 4 years.

cheruv:
mmm...does kogi broadcast news in Igbo for kogite Igbos??
anyway its good knowing igalas there speak Igbo but all that remains is for them to be Igbonized..after all they're descendants of Igala warriors left after the atta Igala was defeated at lake Omeluigala.

God bless Igbo land

Go back to history the Igala's are the only tribe that has nevered been defeated in any battle.

Deltagiant:
I’ve read most of the comments here including yours. I could only but deduce that most of the commentators have little or no knowledge of the Igbo Igala historical tangle. One ancient Igbo adage says that “Egbusigodu Igbo nine, Igbo afodukwa n’Igala” Meaning even if all the Igbos were wiped out, Igbo will still remain in Igala”

Therefore, when I read your comment I laughed because I view you as someone having a very faint knowledge of the Igala/igbo history as it relates to the Omanbala region. This is because it is almost impossible to draw a line of distinction in a Anambra and Enugu states on where Igala or Igbo blood line begins and ends. Parts of the western Igbo territories of Anioma to half of the total local governments in Anamabra and Enugu states are of Igbo and Igala descent. Onitsha, Atani, Dunukofia, Aguleri, Nteje, Nri, Igbariam and most parts of Ogbaru have traces of Igala. The village of Umubele in Awka town also etc.

In Enugu, the Nike people, Enugu Ezike and parts of the state trace their origin partially or wholly to Igala. Most importantly, these communities always assert their Igala links when it matters. Igala and Igbo have a very long history of almost ancestry but which was disencouraged when Islam creeped into Igalaland and when Aliyu Obaje converted to Islam and became their king. He died two years ago but fortunately for them he was replaced with a Christian monarch Michael Ameh Oboni who is now trying very hard to rekindle the lost relationship with Ndigbo.
Therefore, If we have to descend to surgical identification of marginalization, the OP should then shut his mouth up because people of Igala blood line are well represented in Anamabra state.
Even now, the Secretary to Anamabra government, Mr, Oseloka OBAZE from Ogbaru is of Igala blood line. Former Aviation minister Stella Adaeze ODUAH is of Igala blood line. We can as well say that the current governor of Anambra state, Willie Obiano is partially Igala because his town of Aguleri is partially of Igala origin. The village of Odeke in Aguleri has its replica in Ibaji Igala and today they speak Igala. So Mr; OP where do you end this line that you have ignorantly started to draw. My town in Anambra has no Igala connection. So, who is marginalizing who now?

I'm yet to ascertain the veracity of your claims that Igala language is not aired sufficiently, if that is true it is condemnable. But however, your encounter with the said Igala man at onitsha and your comments about him, has equally put you at the same pedestal with those you are accusing. You should have had no qualms with a fellow state citizen who expressed himself in the language he's comfortable with. Please, bury this petty bullshit!

U dont understand me, i mean that they are now dropping our language becos its not being promoted.

rigarmortis:
[s]You are a total waste of sperm, you should tied to a stake and executed, it would save the world the horror and doom looming with the allowed spread of your moronic gene pool.


You can also do the world a favour by serving humanity, take a rope, tie round your neck and jump off a cliff.


However, before then if you ever want to engage in coitus with whoever is deranged enough to be your BF, the village drunk maybe, make sure he uses a condom, infact make sure he wears three, we dont want to take any chances here.



Peace.[/s]

You wrote this epistle for me?

Why are you so pained

Now who needs to meds??

And please, quote me again, cos am enjoying this laugh.

iyeachile:
Even we the ibaji's from kogi state are looked upon as fake igalas even in our own state. So I understand d message d op is passing across. It wont be easy to get recognition, but it's worth the try.

in Igala land, nobody sees any body as fake. The Ibaji language might seem a little different but they are still Igala's and the receive eqall treatment. In fact we respect them better.

People / communities change their name due to some reasons, which I have witness, but I have not seen any Igboman born in 60s who changed his SURNAME to non-Igbo name except ENGLISH.

Note: I am using born in the 60s as a reference because of the age of the priest in question.

eleko1:
I quite understand U,that U haven't meet/come across or seen Igbo-man born in late 60s doesn't meaaaan they aren't exist.What do U have to say about 'male' who changed their name?

newreality:
pls. for the sake of clearification without bias/sentiment. is the igala language spoken in kogi state the same as that your people speak in anambra? because i have kogi igalas as friends but non of them know the meaning of " keyi dee" pls, enlighten me. thanks

Yea is not 100% the same is about 80% the same.

rigarmortis:
You are a total waste of sperm, you should tied to a stake and executed, it would save the world the horror and doom looming with the allowed spread of your moronic gene pool.


You can also do the world a favour by serving humanity, take a rope, tie round your neck and jump off a cliff.


However, before then if you ever want to engage in coitus with whoever is deranged enough to be your BF, the village drunk maybe, make sure he uses a condom, infact make sure he wears three, we dont want to take any chances here.



Peace.

So na here you dey rigar?

I've been looking for you in the ashawo thread. I'll pm you.

Joavid:
You wrote this epistle for me?

Why are you so pained

Now who needs to meds??

And please, quote me again, cos am enjoying this laugh.

Who is this one and why are all your 32 teeth out?

Close it please. We dont have an air freshner here.

JonBee1:
They are in Anambra because that is where the Nigerian govt. define the land to fall within. You can take your case to the FG if you are aggrieved and BTW, they are not you tenants; They are indigenes of the land. You on the other hand are not an indigene of Kano State (even a dim.wit will understand that)

Stop imposing Igbo as a medium of communication in an Igala community at the detriment of the local tongue

pls clarify me on sometin.. is igala a community in kogi or a coomunity in anambra? If they shld list out all communities in anambra, will dey b among?