macof:


dude why do you keep contradicting yourself like this?

First u said God is in man, now u say he should visit man

golddeejay:
i believe there is a 'supernatural being or force', smth or someone creative behind the creation of the universe and human, because the universe and human appears too perfect to be spontenous.

That being said religion is the greatest scam in human history. We human always want to have smth to believe in n follow(we r right and they are wrong) and thats what religion is thriving on. Most of the problems of the world are caused by this religions. I dont need religion to tell me to love my neighbours because that is part of my whole being(i feel good loving others)...But religion will tell 'love your neighbour as yourself' and u will almost hear the unspoken part 'except the unbelievers'. In church, you will hear the sermon on tithe as if ur whole existence depends on it even though jesus never endorse it. If they preach the same way on helping others in need, giving to the orphans etc, i think the world will have been a better place. Mayb religions have derailed frm the original plan of those that started it, what i kno is the world would have been better without religion

And hell fire...hell no. What a wickedness that would be. Are u telling me a loving God that created human in 'his own image' will be 'okay' to watch them burn in the lake of fire he created? Can you throw ur dog into the fire even if it killed another dog of urs.

your response is impure human sentiments.
While, hell may seem to harsh,
full appreciation of sin and it's consequences wouldnt b possible to us. So how do we judge fairly? We can't.

CANTICLES:
.... You are describing d god of christendom, i use 'g' bcoz u guyz dont know whom you are serving , Haba ! A parent already knows his jss 2 child can never pass S.S.C.E , yet he went ahead and register him for it, but when d boy fails the parent purnish him ... Isnt dat cruel, aftrall he knew he is gonna fail ?? For your info, the God of the Bible is " love" ... A direct metaphor tellin u he Cloth Himself In love and will neva do such a cruel thing " God is Love" 1john 4:8 !, He uses self control and choose not to foreknow some things , so dont be suprised that he was amazed when Abaraham is ready to sacrifice his son , what do u notice in his statement in Gen 22:11,12 And 15-18 !!! Can u now see that truth! What he did later resemble Abraham's own when he sent his own son , loving God!

Hello sir,
I think you are also overlooking the fact that the God of the bible was also described metaphorically as a consuming fire.

Hebrews 12:29

New International Version
for our "God is a consuming fire."

New Living Translation
For our God is a devouring fire.

English Standard Version
for our God is a consuming fire.

New American Standard Bible
for our God is a consuming fire.

King James Bible
For our God is a consuming fire.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
for our God is a consuming fire.

International Standard Version
For "our God is an all-consuming fire."

NET Bible
For our God is indeed a devouring fire.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For our God is a consuming fire.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
After all, our God is a destructive fire.

Jubilee Bible 2000
for our God is a consuming fire.

King James 2000 Bible
For our God is a consuming fire.

American King James Version
For our God is a consuming fire.

American Standard Version
for our God is a consuming fire.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For our God is a consuming fire.

Darby Bible Translation
For also our God [is] a consuming fire.

English Revised Version
for our God is a consuming fire.

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”---

Femmymata2:
I prefer to be roasting in hell than be in heaven knowing trillions of fellow humans will burning in hell fire forever. HELL here i come, i

finnally sombody with a better scope of life

asalimpo:


your response is impure human sentiments.
While, hell may seem to harsh,
full appreciation of sin and it's consequences wouldnt b possible to us. So how do we judge fairly? We can't.

thank you for admitting hell is too harsh for a punishment...the promise of paradise filled wit gold n other gud tinz would have worked and would have been enough to judge n reward the obedients but the threat of hell is clearly not havin the right effect as u can see with this thread. Even the promises of virgins can make some people kill themselves. Human tends to rebel when threatened. Try threatning a little child everytime n see how 'hardcore' he will become but try promising him gud things n see how obedient he will become. Thats human nature...i think the creator should understand his creation

Ymodulus:



[size=24pt]So what do you believe in?[/size]

I believe in many things. I believe in the potential of humanity, in the power of reason, in the comfort of love, and in the value of truth. I also believe in the beauty and joy of human experience, and the nearly unlimited power of the human will to endure almost any hardship or solve almost any problem.

I believe that faith can mislead people into falsehood, and that we need reason and doubt as necessary checks against our capacity for error. I believe that we need to allow our fellow human beings to make choices for themselves and to live the life they wish to, in mutual peace and goodwill.

I believe that political negotiation and compromise -- fuelled by an honest measure of respect for different opinions, beliefs and lifestyles -- is the only way the world will find universal peace and goodwill, and that using the scientific method is the only way the world can arrive at an agreement on the truth about anything.

I believe that it is better to preach the gospel of "be good to your fellow man, and love each other as life itself," than to preach the gospel of "believe in our religion or be damned." For it is better to be good to each other and to build on what we all agree to be true, than to insist that we all think alike.

can i please put this on my facebook page?

frank317:



can i please put this on my facebook page?

Agreed

Xcapist:


But you do know that nobody is going to heaven, right?

The Christians say that all unbelievers will burn in the lake of fire...that disqualifies the larger percentage of world, the Muslims say the same too. Christians cancel Muslims, Muslims cancel Christians, the rest have already been cancelled by both so who ends up getting in?

Simple maths, nobody. Anyway, it seems like hell is where all the fun's gonna be at. I don't want to float on clouds, with white flowing robes holding unto a harp and chanting amen hallelujah holy eternally! I'll be bored to death. What do you think?

i shake my head for u!

Chinoble:

i shake my head for u!

I shake my head for u too

paulGrundy:


Hello sir,
I think you are also overlooking the fact that the God of the bible was also described metaphorically as a consuming fire.

Hebrews 12:29

King James Bible
For our God is a consuming fire.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
for our God is a consuming fire.

friend, uv been brainwashed .... Dis verse neva said God creates helfire , it only says " God is a consumin fire" ! If u have done your homework, u will know that the Apostle paul was quotin from Deu 4:24 , in what sense is God a consuming fire ?? Let him explain " hear o Isreal, today you are crossin the jordan to go in and disposses nations.... A people great and tall, the sons of An'akim, Your God will cross ahead of u, He is a consumin fire .. He will ANIHILATE Them& DESTROY THEM" DEU 9:3 ,he is a consumin fire by destroyin d wicked Anaks, they all ceased to exist ... He destroys dem all , can u open d scripture dat says d Anak's go to helfire?? Dey simply ceased to exist

Xcapist:

I shake my head for u too

owk.

Ymodulus:



[size=24pt]So what do you believe in?[/size]

I believe in many things. I believe in the potential of humanity, in the power of reason, in the comfort of love, and in the value of truth. I also believe in the beauty and joy of human experience, and the nearly unlimited power of the human will to endure almost any hardship or solve almost any problem.

I believe that faith can mislead people into falsehood, and that we need reason and doubt as necessary checks against our capacity for error. I believe that we need to allow our fellow human beings to make choices for themselves and to live the life they wish to, in mutual peace and goodwill.

I believe that political negotiation and compromise -- fuelled by an honest measure of respect for different opinions, beliefs and lifestyles -- is the only way the world will find universal peace and goodwill, and that using the scientific method is the only way the world can arrive at an agreement on the truth about anything.

I believe that it is better to preach the gospel of "be good to your fellow man, and love each other as life itself," than to preach the gospel of "believe in our religion or be damned." For it is better to be good to each other and to build on what we all agree to be true, than to insist that we all think alike.

Ymodulus, we as a people, will fight tooth and nail against all you've so beautifully laid out above. Because your statements are dignified and humane, because they are about love for one another and human potential the overwhelming majority of Africans will work tirelessly to deny and destroy all these sentiments and realities and seek instead the embrace of phantoms, evil spirits, gods, miracles, witches, prophets and every kind of materialistic, idolatrous, superstitious self-anointing spookism.

We traditionally incline more towards authority than towards our fellow human beings. Our uncritical worship of power is killing us. In the age of Ebola we need more than blessings in Chizossnemm. We need all the qualities you've laid out above. And more. Otherwise we condemn our children and grandchildren to be forever nonpersons on this Earth. None but ourselves can free our minds. We are our own Saviours. And Destroyers.

And if you really believe in Hell, you're already in it!

TrajansKong:

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And if you really believe in Hell, you're already in it!

was lost here.

Oduduwaboy:

Exactly the reason i left christianity. The hell-fire doctrine became an absolute turn-off. I observed a sadistic streak in pastors who used it to enslave the minds of people. I also started to become convinced that a God who would do this to 99,9% of his can only be imaginary afterall!

why didn't you investigate properly and find out if that's what the Bible really says God is going to do before you left Christianity? There are Christians who do not believe God will torment people in hell you know?

Ymodulus:
was lost here.

I meant that metaphorically. If you actually believe in the bloodthirsty, vengeful, racist fiend described in the Bible then fear of deviating from slavish obedience must govern your every word, thought, step and deed.

Fucking Hell, indeed.

TrajansKong:


I meant that metaphorically. If you actually believe in the bloodthirsty, vengeful, racist fiend described in the Bible then fear of deviating from slavish obedience must govern your every word, thought, step and deed.

Fucking Hell, indeed.

Got you now. Nice post

Chinoble:

i shake my head for u!

clueless people that fail to reason with their brain and and uo believing in some mythology, always ehake their hewd when logical argument is presented

abdulwastecx:


clueless people that fail to reason with their brain and and uo believing in some mythology, always ehake their hewd when logical argument is presented

owk.

knightsTempler:
I need me some of that shît you just smoked, been looking for stuff like this for a while.

I want get high, so high i can touch the most high.

ME TOO

@torchwave, if there is a just God who by his nature to do not have a choice than to send people who disobey him to enternal torture, We despise it. Because some of us by nature believe that no human should be subjected to horrible torture in fire forever as punishment for something done in a space of years. 120yrs sin - tortured forever, imagine one of your loved ones finds his/herself there burning in fire for enternity. We advice that God to change that monster nature and seek serious counselling.

torchwave...

I see say your head dey torch....

Kindly go back and read that nonsense you wrote.. "contradictions galore"....you and that your god need proper medication..

Femmymata2:
@torchwave, if there is a just God who by his nature to do not have a choice than to send people who disobey him to enternal torture, We despise it. Because some of us by nature believe that no human should be subjected to horrible torture in fire forever as punishment for something done in a space of years. 120yrs sin - tortured forever, imagine one of your loved ones finds his/herself there burning in fire for enternity. We advice that God to change that monster nature and seek serious counselling.

That untrue!
God Almighty does not torture human nor sends them to eternal destruction.
Satan was judged and casted out of heaven. (There is Court in Heaven.)(book of revelation explained that)( God Almighty sits on HIS magnificient throne, The Lamb{Jesus}, with 4 huge living creatures, 24 Elders, The 4 Arc-angels, and uncountables Angels of God.)
So satan wants to destroy God's Creation, by doing that, he tries to drag humanity as many as he can into Hell not knowing that he has failed.
God Almighty loves his creature that he sent many messengers, prophets and even His Son(Jesus, The Conquerer) to remind us about satans tricks. God Almighty Love will be Shown to Us till the End of this world whether good or bad alike.
The mysteries hidden under the sun will be revealed on the day of judgement
Take a read at this article. Don't mind because u saw the website as Islamreligion.
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/5160/viewall/

Femmymata2:
@torchwave, if there is a just God who by his nature to do not have a choice than to send people who disobey him to enternal torture, We despise it. Because some of us by nature believe that no human should be subjected to horrible torture in fire forever as punishment for something done in a space of years. 120yrs sin - tortured forever, imagine one of your loved ones finds his/herself there burning in fire for enternity. We advice that God to change that monster nature and seek serious counselling.

In essence, you're in rebellion against God since you cannot accept His nature of severity.

One more thing, my advice to you is to change your ways because God has always been, is, and will forever be changelessly unchangeable. That, especially, is why He is God.

The sooner you get that the better for you all.

You all might say whatever you wish against God in your lifetime, but nothing will stop you from meeting Him personally. Gosh...I hope, for your sake, you're prepared for that inevitable face-to-face encounter widely known as JUDGMENT DAY.

GooseBaba:
torchwave...

I see say your head dey torch....

Kindly go back and read that nonsense you wrote.. "contradictions galore"....you and that your god need proper medication..

thank you. I hope say you no go get goosebumps the day wen you finally meet your Maker.

torchwave:
...I hope, for your sake, you're prepared for that inevitable face-to-face encounter widely known as JUDGMENT DAY.

Who can stop d will of God Almighty, not christendom nor its list of get-rich pastors, what is God's will ? " this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Saviour, God, Whose Will Is That All Sorts of people should be SAVED!!!" 1Tim2:3,4 .... You ar there thinkin he wont achieve his will, u ar there sayin only d so-called deceived bornagains of christendom will be saved, lmao ..... While other sort of billions of humans will b tortured forever !!! U Miss It " Gods will is that all sort of people should be saved!!!! "1tim2:4, NOBODY CAN STOP THAT .... What is judgement day? Its not a 24hrs period like many religion tink my bro, but rather a long period of years ! Yea, read 1pet3:8 .... One day the whole world will learn righteousness, dats Judgement Day !! read Isaiah 26:9

You don't really know what hell is.put your hand in oven even if na high u high e go clear

torchwave:
thank you. I hope say you no go get goosebumps the day wen you finally meet your Maker.

I hope I get goosebumps when I meet my maker... But if I see YOUR MAKER, I hope I find correct stick to beat correct craze commot from him head...

GooseBaba:


I hope I get goosebumps when I meet my maker... But if I see YOUR MAKER, I hope I find correct stick to beat correct craze commot from him head...

aiite. See u then. Hope you have the spine to think about stick when you see a furious sea of lava waiting to welcome you into its unquenchably merciless jaws.

Goodluck with that, my friend.

torchwave:
aiite. See u then. Hope you have the spine to think about stick when you see a furious sea of lava waiting to welcome you into its unquenchably merciless jaws.

Goodluck with that, my friend.

Lmoa.. Making claims without proof... No be only you and your god get imagination..

I hear your god seats on a throne.. That's where your god will receive a very dirty hot slap from me..you watch and see..