₦airaland Forum

spyder880:
This is Ninth mile corner, Udi local government area of Enugu state. 3 big companies listed on the NSE, 5 commercial banks and many ancillary businesses.

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CFCfan:
Senator Ayogu Eze has won the PDP guber primary.

centje:
if this is true, then there's going to be trouble in Enugu state politics. And if PDP goes ahead with Ayogu then APC will likely take over Enugu. I personally don't like Ayogu, he hasn't being of any benefit to Nsukka unlike Ekweremadu.

all4naija:
Sh*ts happen everywhere in Enugu. If necessary approach is not taken to solve the problem now that city is doomed for life.

centje:
if this is true, then there's going to be trouble in Enugu state politics. And if PDP goes ahead with Ayogu then APC will likely take over Enugu. I personally don't like Ayogu, he hasn't being of any benefit to Nsukka unlike Ekweremadu.

Bim42:
Bia Patrick Akpayi, you no get work? Becareful or i will expose you more!

CFCfan:
That's not gonna happen. At worst, the APGA candidate could win. The APC candidate is a serial loser.

Bim42:
una dey overestimate this APC crap

mej67:
NB: All above is highly condensed but contain the basic facts. Elaboration will follow if needed. Please I am ready to share my email to take detailed discussions of the thread to avoid boring other people

Above is laced together taking original work of the following:
1. Ené, M.O. (2000) Town Government: A Paradigm Shift In Community Management, New Jersey, USA (this fellow is very good)
2. Imo State Government (2010): 4th Tier Government will reposition Imo state developmental plan. State Gazette 2010
3. Onu, C. (2014). Nigeria: The Courage to Dare: Enugu Beyond 2015. Ingrace publishers
2.Onu, C. (2014). Nigeria: 100 Years after Amalgamation – Together, We Will Make Nigeria Work Better: A Key Note Address at The Historical Society of Nigeria 2014 Congress by the Department of History and International Studies, University of Nigeria, Nsukka on 23rd September 2014.

all4naija:
What are you talking about? I wish I get you correctly. Don't mistake me for someone you know, you jerk! Smelling city indeed!

spyder880:
In all your suggestions, you still failed to suggest areas for the augmentation of Enugu state funding apart from our dependence on "Abuja oil money" as you mentioned in one of your posts. I thought you might like to start with development of natural resources like coal as a way of boosting our state government coffers and therefore enable us to develop both the rural and urban areas of the state. Go back to where we started and dwell on the points you raised.

It is clear that you have a very little understanding of governmental organisation structures, and that is why you advocate the establishment of the fourth tier of government when the third is almost completely useless. You even talked of empowering the fourth tier to carry out projects with funding from the state purse, well, as we still cannot make the LGA to work, what makes you think that a bunch of community administrators can do better? Which laws will bring them to book if they decide to embezzle funds? Have you ever heard of the name CDC under Chimaroke Nnamani? How did they fare?

Another place I need to look at is the area of wastage of funds, how could you have a third tier of government drawing salary and budget from the federal or state and then bypass them and want the fourth tier to now do the work of developing the interior? Why waste the funds paying them for doing nothing at all?

In conclusion I think we all have the fourth tier in our various communities, and we have been using them for smaller developments in the way of self help projects. The new governor can always plan his rural development thrust to achieve the needs of the masses.

Thank you for your points, keep them coming, any idea on how to develop Enugu state is always welcome. We all are the GOVERNMENT.

mej67:
Hey Spyder, cool. Take it easy. Rem I promised input in two areas -(i) Rural devt (a seeming impossibility going by majority on this board), (ii) Economy. I have just sent one of two, and cleaning up text so the next one will be short too.

Hurrying it only leads to premature erupti so don't shoot from the hips, and don't go " it is clear that you have a very little understanding of governmental organisation structures", because you really don't know and the Biblical "do not judge so you may no be judged" is still potent till today. There should be no invigilator or exam script marker here, I believe. It is not not a fail or pass thing. Just thinking out of the box for those who hate and wish to repudiate the status quo. Any wishing to throw any idea away, should be ready to present a counter position (that is not status quo, alright). Fine

Wait a while, probly later in the night and the second part will come.

In the meantime, I have noted your concerns. They are genuine. Al we do is discuss and address them or instill mitigating arrangements. Notice that the post is so condensed. Like a book, each point above is a line in a table of content and we expand it in full discussion. Relax bro.
Coming next is 2or 2.
Highlight: Harnessing Enugu's areas of comparative cost advantage in
(i) agro-economy (a ready battle axe)
(ii) Industrial exploitation of massive natural resources (you will be shocked: laterite (burnt bricks), limestone (cement), clay (ceramics/tiles), gas (Ugwuoba to Oji), coal (Ezimo thermal plant)
(iii) Re-planning Enugu city as an aerotropolis (now possible and a low hanging fruit)

spyder880:
In order not to put the cart before the horse, it is very important that you address the resources we can use to push the rural development as you stated before. This should precede every fancy terms you are throwing about. We are listening.

mej67:
ok. will do.

But just know that N18billion (being borrowed afresh ) is way too much money for what is indicated above. And while chicken change to the N36billion or so secretariat that cannot improve even water service or educe infant mortality or access to education, it has greater potential

mej67:
ok. will do.

But just know that N18billion (being borrowed afresh ) is way too much money for what is indicated above. And while chicken change to the N36billion or so secretariat that cannot improve even water service or educe infant mortality or access to education, it has greater potential

rafindo:
.i like the way u hv kept the discus going even in the face of hot opposition.in journalism we are told that the media is the one that set agenda for the society nd government.in nigeria the case is the reverse.we the youth hv become the dier machine they use in wrapping our ingenuity.we praise them for minor things they do.mediocrity gives us joy.we should be ashame of ourself.look at our comtemporaries they have left us long time ago.the s korea,qatar,malaysia nd indonesia are no lönger celebratin roads, good water scheme but intricate issues like unemployment rate,poverty rate,education rate, growing the economy nd reducing their debt rate.we have lost years we should have use in growing the economy to mediocrity,military regime nd our stupidity.we praise chime for buildin road,painting road nd planting flower as if it is nt the basic thing government must do.we should know the difference btw want is our right nd the favour the government owes us.if we should employe someöne to develope a house 4 us nd the person gives u the job dat chime is givin wil u be happy with him, with the hughe salary he is earnin.

mej67: 1st, no looking back - the past is history, so is Chime. Forward ever, nkiru ka. All I will be here for will be ideas for the future (sharing that is)

2nd, no mention of names -Cime, Chima, Ekwere all distract from the core concept. I will only acknowledge and give credit as due.

mej67:
ok. will do. But just know that N18billion (being borrowed afresh ) is way too much money for what is indicated above. And while chicken change to the N36billion or so secretariat that cannot improve even water service or educe infant mortality or access to education, it has greater potential

biafrandream:
You and Spydder have put it in the most persuasive way possible, but I am afraid you are addressing a dead wood. You can argue as much as you want, the lady hates Chime and nothing whatsoever will change her opinion.

centje:
Above was your post in the previous page, before this current discussion. You couldn't even withhold your hatred for Chime for just a page long...
Just one page after, you're already writing this....
...totally out of context of discussion you were having with spyder880.
I think biafrandream captured you perfectly. We can have a constructive discussion here on faster and sustainable development of Enugu but if you keep deviating by degrading Chime then I may not continue with you...'cause you clearly stated the rules of engagement. If you want to x-ray chime's administration, state it, we can then shift the goal post. Just for the record, the way you deviate from discussion makes me want to agree you're a female.

spyder880:
My brother, the way she keeps swinging from tree to tree and dancing around points, I find it difficult to pinpoint what her real issues are. I was prepared to debate the issues with her, despite the fact that she was obviously copying her points from textbooks, theory is always very sweet, after all some people just want to sell their textbooks, but the reality is different. I am still waiting for cogent points on how he thinks Enugu state can get better. Personality attacks cannot help us in any way, especially when we have not proven we could have done better than the person we are trying to ridicule.

spyder880:
For those that don't know, leadership is not easy o, if you doubt me, just start from the leadership of your nuclear family, and then lead your umunna or your town. Pure hard work, most times thankless. But imagine leading a whole state! (uneasy lies the head that wears the crown) We must give credit to our leaders, even while subtly criticizing them and suggesting better ways of doing things, but spreading falsehood or personality attacks is very repugnant. It will achieve the wrong results.

I am not saying that Sullivan has done the impossible, and I think there are one or two places he should have done much better, but having said that we should also remember that until we come very close to see what their limitations were, you cannot claim to be making an objective criticism by just making blanket statements and throwing accusations on leaders.

And we are the cause of some of the problems. Some of us don't even know the names of who our village councilors are, or how our Local government chairman looks like, or where our state assembly member lives or what our senator's constituency allowance is? But we are quick to start screaming fraud whenever we hear sums of money spent by the state government!

Some of us has never tried anything difficult in our lives, we find it easy to sit on a comfortable chair and sling insults on our leaders when we have never made a success of the smallest task entrusted in our care! Some people find it easy to scream that the state government should dive into agriculture, these are people who cannot even cultivate one ridge of cassava plant or train even a small chicken and make profit, and they shout state government should do this and that! What stops you from going to your village to farm, since you think the government can make too much profit from that? Why not employ people and make the profit yourself?

Abeg make I go work for site......... no need debating with people who are only concerned with theories.

spyder880:
For those that don't know, leadership is not easy o, if you doubt me, just start from the leadership of your nuclear family, and then lead your umunna or your town. Pure hard work, most times thankless. But imagine leading a whole state! (uneasy lies the head that wears the crown) We must give credit to our leaders, even while subtly criticizing them and suggesting better ways of doing things, but spreading falsehood or personality attacks is very repugnant. It will achieve the wrong results.

I am not saying that Sullivan has done the impossible, and I think there are one or two places he should have done much better, but having said that we should also remember that until we come very close to see what their limitations were, you cannot claim to be making an objective criticism by just making blanket statements and throwing accusations on leaders.

And we are the cause of some of the problems. Some of us don't even know the names of who our village councilors are, or how our Local government chairman looks like, or where our state assembly member lives or what our senator's constituency allowance is? But we are quick to start screaming fraud whenever we hear sums of money spent by the state government!

Some of us has never tried anything difficult in our lives, we find it easy to sit on a comfortable chair and sling insults on our leaders when we have never made a success of the smallest task entrusted in our care! Some people find it easy to scream that the state government should dive into agriculture, these are people who cannot even cultivate one ridge of cassava plant or train even a small chicken and make profit, and they shout state government should do this and that! What stops you from going to your village to farm, since you think the government can make too much profit from that? Why not employ people and make the profit yourself?

Abeg make I go work for site......... no need debating with people who are only concerned with theories.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Ozugozienu nu

Bishop42:
Please Note the difference.

And am refering to guys who bash leaders uneccessarly.