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babyosisi:
My opinion or the interpretation of the results you provided by two cancer specialists who specifically told you that growth should be biopsied?
If you folks are done with the case please declare it closed after all patient has been discharged.
Or you can keep shopping for the diagnosis of your choice

Babyosisi, see the highlighted below which was posted yesterday...Even if it is TB, so it costs nearly N1M to treat TB! This is mind-boggling!!!

OAM4J:
Your concern is noted, we thought of the possibility too, but we are unable to reach the conclusion that it is a rip off. We also have no guarantee that taking him to another hospital apart from teaching hospitals will be less expensive. Private Specialists Hospitals in Nigeria are very expensive from our findings.

However, the way forward is to suggest alternatives. What are your suggestions?

Busybody2:
All we have done here is say the hospital should hasten up the diagnosis process and rule out cancer, which was one of the 4 diagnosis they gave, nothing else...We are aware of ethical reasons not to disclose diagnosis. I have shared same thing you have said up there about withholding info in a post I made 5 weeks ago. Our collective goal and wish is for a false positive result. Thanks.

Trust me, no one hears of cancer and go to bed and sleep soundly. We like all of you are eager to confirm or rule it out as soon as possible. What we need is the practical way to go about it with or without the current hospital treating him.

If the hospital is slow, as we think they are, what do we do? Compel them to hasten up? Yes! but we have to approach it with care, reason we kept asking for a doctor on ground to help us 'compel' them to hasten up.

Alternatively or in addition is to liaise with other doctors and seek their opinion and practical things we can do to get a confirmation as soon as we can, and Royver is helping us with that.

We are also still opened to other practical suggestions of what we can do to get a conclusion as soon as we can, preferably not a 'read in between the lines' suggestions.

babyosisi:
Today is Friday,by tomorrow many people will be heading home for Christmas
I guess until next year

This all must be a dream, that is the only plausible logical reason

Busybody2:
Thinking out loudly - So Gbadexy makes the suggestion in bold up there, and all we get is excuses about how it would take three days for information to flow from the hospital to Doctor Osisi and back to the hospital SO they would rather prefer a doctor on the ground YET according to pickabeau, babyosisi's last email to them was December 13th.


December 19th (today's date) less December 13th is a whooping 6 wasted days of waiting for Doctor on ground when Babyosisi's free service could have been utilised oh How difficult can it be for any gentleman to ask the Doctor "is it Cancer Sir" or how difficult is it to tie one's headscarf round the waist and grab the Doctor by the collar and demand answers from him
I swear i'm understanding your figure of speech and your frequency now.
I was about to reply with the same question when i saw this mention.
I understand they want to be diplomatic and i feel they are somewhat intimidated by the doctors but the easiest to do is just plainly ask if it isnt cancer and why fobt they make testing for it a topmost priority amongst other ones.
By the way, I dont see anything bad informing the doctors that we have in house doctor based abroad that is interested and follows their progress. Infact her opinion and reports she got from colleague doctors and interpretation of their test results would help them.
Highest they disagree but they know they arent dealing with novices.

Heavenly Father we beseech thee.

Busybody2:
Thinking out loudly - So Gbadexy makes the suggestion in bold up there, and all we get is excuses about how it would take three days for information to flow from the hospital to Doctor Osisi and back to the hospital SO they would rather prefer a doctor on the ground YET according to pickabeau, babyosisi's last email to them was December 13th.


December 19th (today's date) less December 13th is a whooping 6 wasted days of waiting for Doctor on ground when Babyosisi's free service could have been utilised oh How difficult can it be for any gentleman to ask the Doctor "is it Cancer Sir" or how difficult is it to tie one's headscarf round the waist and grab the Doctor by the collar and demand answers from him
I swear i'm understanding your figure of speech and your frequency now.
I was about to reply with the same question when i saw this mention.
I understand they want to be diplomatic and i feel they are somewhat intimidated by the doctors but the easiest to do is just plainly ask if it isnt cancer and why fobt they make testing for it a topmost priority amongst other ones.
By the way, I dont see anything bad informing the doctors that we have in house doctor based abroad that is interested and follows their progress. Infact her opinion and reports she got from colleague doctors and interpretation of their test results would help them.
Highest they disagree but they know they arent dealing with novices.

Heavenly Father we beseech thee.

I swear i'm understanding your figure of speech and your frequency now.
I was about to reply with the same question when i saw this mention.
I understand they want to be diplomatic and i feel they are somewhat intimidated by the doctors but the easiest to do is just plainly ask if it isnt cancer and why fobt they make testing for it a topmost priority amongst other ones.
By the way, I dont see anything bad informing the doctors that we have in house doctor based abroad that is interested and follows their progress. Infact her opinion and reports she got from colleague doctors and interpretation of their test results would help them.
Highest they disagree but they know they arent dealing with novices.

babyosisi:
My opinion or the interpretation of the results you provided by two cancer specialists who specifically told you that growth should be biopsied?
If you folks are done with the case please declare it closed after all patient has been discharged.
Or you can keep shopping for the diagnosis of your choice

You can carry out every test in the world but until someone uses a surgical blade and cuts out that mass they found and a pathologist looks at it under the microscope ,no one will ever give you a definitive diagnosis. a fluid cytology already tells you there is something fishy going on.
So Shop for who will go in and do what I described
Your test results already tell you such a mass exists
What are you waiting for?
For someone to tell you it doesn't exist?
Then repeat the CT scan at another facility and have another radiologist read the result

Ok all the above are noted. With your suggestion that we send all the reports to India and start preparing him for India.

We will seriously consider them ma in line with all other suggestions we have.

Thank you ma.

OAM4J:
Trust me, no one hears of cancer and go to bed and sleep soundly. We like all of you are eager to confirm or rule it out as soon as possible. What we need is the practical way to go about it with or without the current hospital treating him.

If the hospital is slow, as we think they are, what do we do? Compel them to hasten up? Yes! but we have to approach it with care, reason we kept asking for a doctor on ground to help us 'compel' them to hasten up.

Alternatively or in addition is to liaise with other doctors and seek their opinion and practical things we can do to get a confirmation as soon as we can, and Royver is helping us with that.

We are also still opened to other practical suggestions of what we can do to get a conclusion as soon as we can, preferably not a 'read in between the lines' suggestions.

IMHO, asking a Doctor to query another Doctor's incompetence is antagonistic, unprofessional and unethical. The Pickabeau1 that went there this Monday can ask the two questions Osisi asked since nau!

This Hospital were the one who told him Cancer was one of the suspected diagnosis afterall?!

Busybody2:
IMHO, asking a Doctor to query another Doctor's incompetence is antagonistic, unprofessional and unethical. The Pickabeau1 that went there this Monday can ask the two questions Osisi asked since nau!

This Hospital were the one who told him Cancer was one of the suspected diagnosis afterall?!

According to the doctor they suspected malignancy not yet confirmed and not ruled out also
More tests are needed
yet you are the same person complaining of the battery of tests

Do you see why we needed a doctor

Please let us do something Fast.

So much drama in the air but thank God our man is getting better.

This wan na dokita? As in seriously? Dokita sharing private and confidential emails? Na....this wan na confirm e-dokita! No certificate,all noise and zero action! Hungry for praise/notice me e-dokita! Shebi na liver she tok before? Now e don change to cancer,from cancer, na Ebola of the nose dem go carry come. GOD IS WATCHING YOU OO!! Google is really helping your matter. Oshisko!

Djdola, fear not! The Lord that answereth by fire will see us through ooo..I speak good health and prosperity into your life.You will make it to the end.Amen And Amen!!

This is very simple. Tehn should creat a thread that a doctor is needed and push it to FB. Many Doctors are on NL just that they are not aware of our request

pickabeau1:
According to the doctor they suspected malignancy not yet confirmed and not ruled out also
More tests are needed
yet you are the same person complaining of the battery of tests

Do you see why we needed a doctor

Funjosh:
This is very simple. Tehn should creat a thread that a doctor is needed and push it to FB. Many Doctors are on NL just that they are not aware of our request

Thanks for your suggestion

babyosisi:
Why all the demands for doctors to help you interpret the result
Haven't you all received enough interpretations to know where we are now what to do next?
Sheesh
I am now compelled to make the contents of my email open for all to see
This is getting annoying
Busybody move over,na me dem go attack now
Here I come

U need to undstd dat these pple are not doctors,, sm of dem may nt b in d nedical field. i think its nt out of place asking for a dr on ground. It ll b more profitable. d dr ll gv him audience more dan wot u hv sent via mail(wch is commendable).
And i need to b clarified. From wot i ve gathered frm d posts, i tot they ve already said its cancer bt d 'primary focus' isnt confirmed yet.? Or am i wrong? Sm1 shld pls clarify me

pickabeau1:
According to the doctor they suspected malignancy not yet confirmed and not ruled out also
More tests are needed
yet you are the same person complaining of the battery of tests

Do you see why we needed a doctor

You are not been asked to go and dictate what tests the Doctor should do, so you are capable of asking the Doctor the question Babyosisi asked. Again this Doctor was the one who told you they suspected it, so if they have ruled out liver issue and retroviral, it's easier for you to ask what is the probability this is cancer.



@Gbadexy
You are spot on again

Modified

Busybody2:
You are not been asked to go and dictate what tests the Doctor should do, so you are capable of asking the Doctor the question Babyosisi asked. Again this Doctor was the one who told you they suspected it, so if they have ruled out liver issue and retroviral, it's easier for you to ask what is the probability this is cancer.



@Gbadexy
You are spot on again

Ok...a meeting may need to be scheduled with the hospital though Hamex has discharged himself
I am not in town again

So far these are the suggestions obtsined so far


1. ASK DOCTOR FOR PROBABILITY OF CANCER DIAGNOSIS

2. OPEN A NEW THREAD TO REQUEST FOR A DOCTOR TO PROVIDE SUPPORT


MORE SUGGESTIONS NEEDED

Idowuogbo:
This wan na dokita? As in seriously? Dokita sharing private and confidential emails? Na....this wan na confirm e-dokita! No certificate,all noise and zero action! Hungry for praise/notice me e-dokita! Shebi na liver she tok before? Now e don change to cancer,from cancer, na Ebola of the nose dem go carry come. GOD IS WATCHING YOU OO!! Google is really helping your matter. Oshisko!

Djdola, fear not! The Lord that answereth by fire will see us through ooo..I speak good health and prosperity into your life.You will make it to the end.Amen And Amen!!

lol ebola of the nose.

Idowuogbo:
This wan na dokita? As in seriously? Dokita sharing private and confidential emails? Na....this wan na confirm e-dokita! No certificate,all noise and zero action! Hungry for praise/notice me e-dokita! Shebi na liver she tok before? Now e don change to cancer,from cancer, na Ebola of the nose dem go carry come. GOD IS WATCHING YOU OO!! Google is really helping your matter. Oshisko!

Djdola, fear not! The Lord that answereth by fire will see us through ooo..I speak good health and prosperity into your life.You will make it to the end.Amen And Amen!!

You are extremely stupid and I have neglected you for that reason
Why did I say liver?
Did you see the summary of the report sent to me from the team that was the initial post of this thread
Did you?
Do you want me to post it here for you to read where a doctor treating categorically said his liver has failed
Anu mpam
Did I make it up of it was as a result of someone's diagnosis at the time sent to me by the coordinators or you think I posted my own diagnosis of a patient I have never seen?
Stop talking out of your nyash
If the diagnosis keeps changing blame the reports being given
Not that I expect you to be able to wrap your eediotic mind around that one

This is the first post of this thread

babyosisi:
Summary and update so far

I feel compelled to let the posters who have invested time and money and emotions and still investing to know the situation of things
I apologize on the behalf of those who went to see DJ if anyone feels they didn't report accordingly,this is very sensitive but at the same time you deserve to know.

The true picture is that DJ needs more specialized care than the hospital he is at can offer him
His liver is bad and sadly it has also affected his kidneys
Transplant is inevitable and now we have two failing organs
The care after transplant is not easy,it is long and extensive
Most importantly money is needed desperately to make this happen
Lots of money
I am therefore appealing to us all to give
Ask your mother father,godfather,politician friends,banker friends and business friends to give generously
To the politicians reading,please help save the life of this young man
The people reading here are the voters
Any politician that makes this happen for us,we will let everyone hear of this good gesture.


DJ needs us now more than ever

How did I come to that conclusion?
Have I seen DJ?
Was I not reporting what his treating doctor said?

All the snide remarks and insult is unnecessary, Dj's issue should be the focus..

babyosisi:
[size=13pt]stop the tests
You have done enough tests
Stop wasting donors money in tests
E don do
You have tested enough
The only test left is to confirm if it is a malignancy and a biopsy which this hospital is not eager to do will tell you just that
How much louder can I say this?[/size]
I am about to yank off my weave and throw it out the window
Somebody should ban me from this thread Biko
I am trying to keep away and the responses keep drawing me in

Wth? they are wasting donors money on tests? What are you seriously trying to achieve with your nonsensicals? Shey una dey see as e-dokita dey jabo ba? Ok o!!! It is well

pickabeau1:
Ok...a meeting may need to be scheduled with the hospital though Hamex has discharged himself
I am not in town again
So far these are the suggestions obtsined so far
1. ASK DOCTOR FOR PROBABILITY OF CANCER DIAGNOSIS
2. OPEN A NEW THREAD TO REQUEST FOR A DOCTOR TO PROVIDE SUPPORT
MORE SUGGESTIONS NEEDED

Best of luck. Try chase up the CT scan. I am sure no appointment is needed for that and if you are out of town, TeHn should have no issue nominating one of your fellow fieldworkers.

The house will be waiting/hoping for the best. Thanks.

babyosisi:
You are extremely stupid and I have neglected you for that reason
Why did I say liver?
Did you see the summary of the report sent to me from the team that was the initial post of this thread
Did you?
Do you want me to post it here for you to read where a doctor treating categorically said his liver has failed
Anu mpam
Did I make it up of it was as a result of someone's diagnosis at the time sent to me by the coordinators or you think I posted my own diagnosis of a patient I have never seen?
Stop talking out of your nyash
If the diagnosis keeps changing blame the reports being given
Not that I expect you to be able to wrap your eediotic mind around that one

Hear the mOronic specimen,you seriously need to stop typing with the muscles in ya anuz,ma'am! Carry your demented self to the food section where you belong.All noise,zero action! Mrs durella! MsteeeeeEeeeew!!!!

Idowuogbo:
Wth? they are wasting donors money on tests? What are you seriously trying to achieve with your nonsensicals? Shey una dey see as e-dokita dey jabo ba? Ok o!!! It is well

You can say all you want, i have nothing to prove to a hood rat.i want it to be on record that I said so The tests are enough.when he gets to a treating hospital,they will do their own tests .
You can make this a pissing contest but at the end of the day,we have a patient.

Babyosisi & idowuogbo, na de same mouth una take dey pray to baba God for DJ na una take they insult unasef, nawao.......abeg make una cease fire and face the issue on ground......

babyosisi:
This is the first post of this thread


How did I come to that conclusion?
Have I seen DJ?
Was I not reporting what his treating doctor said?

Let this slide Doctor Babyosisi and focus on important stuff such as the pending CT SCAN biko. You are here for DJDOLA's welfare and Tehn convinced Seun they are capable of handling this case and I am sure they will see this to the end. So your business here is with Tehn, so let's focus on them.

Idowuogbo:
Hear the mOronic specimen,you seriously need to stop typing with the muscles in ya anuz,ma'am! Carry your demented self to the food section where you belong.All noise serious action! Mrs durella! MsteeeeeEeeeew!!!!

Naira land is indeed a leveler
In what space will I be exchanging words with an unwashed street person?
I don' suffer

babyosisi:
You are extremely stupid and I have neglected you for that reason
Why did I say liver?
Did you see the summary of the report sent to me from the team that was the initial post of this thread
Did you?
Do you want me to post it here for you to read where a doctor treating categorically said his liver has failed
Anu mpam
Did I make it up of it was as a result of someone's diagnosis at the time sent to me by the coordinators or you think I posted my own diagnosis of a patient I have never seen?
Stop talking out of your nyash
If the diagnosis keeps changing blame the reports being given
Not that I expect you to be able to wrap your eediotic mind around that one

Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
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babyosisi:
You are extremely stupid and I have neglected you for that reason
Why did I say liver?
Did you see the summary of the report sent to me from the team that was the initial post of this thread
Did you?
Do you want me to post it here for you to read where a doctor treating categorically said his liver has failed
Anu mpam
Did I make it up of it was as a result of someone's diagnosis at the time sent to me by the coordinators or you think I posted my own diagnosis of a patient I have never seen?
Stop talking out of your nyash
If the diagnosis keeps changing blame the reports being given
Not that I expect you to be able to wrap your eediotic mind around that one

Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
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babyosisi:
You are extremely stupid and I have neglected you for that reason
Why did I say liver?
Did you see the summary of the report sent to me from the team that was the initial post of this thread
Did you?
Do you want me to post it here for you to read where a doctor treating categorically said his liver has failed
Anu mpam
Did I make it up of it was as a result of someone's diagnosis at the time sent to me by the coordinators or you think I posted my own diagnosis of a patient I have never seen?
Stop talking out of your nyash
If the diagnosis keeps changing blame the reports being given
Not that I expect you to be able to wrap your eediotic mind around that one

Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
I dont know if the response given by idowuogbo is as a result of your posting the details or some other online rivalry but i get where she is coming from and on need to assure the patient and pray for miracle.
i however appreciate your making us understand the situation of things and possibly leading to expediting actions. My only regret is that our knowing means anyother person would too but you have stated that you were left with no choice which i agree with unless we would still be asked for way forward while staying redundant.

Busybody2:
Best of luck. Try chase up the CT scan. I am sure no appointment is needed for that and if you are out of town, TeHn should have no issue nominating one of your fellow fieldworkers.

The house will be waiting/hoping for the best. Thanks.

Thanks for your wishes.

As you are well aware we all work on a volunteer basis n so it is not just a simple matter to just nominate a fellow field worker

The field worker who was with Hamed has been there for the past three weeks or so everyday and am sure he will have other personal things to attend to.

The team will consider the suggestions

gbadexy:
Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
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Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
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Madam take it easy. Thats what happens in online forum.
i guess you are an elder. some people are gifted with witty and sharp online personality but i guess few would dare to disrespect a matured dignified person in person.
I dont know if the response given by idowuogbo is as a result of your posting the details or some other online rivalry but i get where she is coming from and on need to assure the patient and pray for miracle.
i however appreciate your making us understand the situation of things and possibly leading to expediting actions. My only regret is that our knowing means anyother person would too but you have stated that you were left with no choice which i agree with unless we would still be asked for way forward with staying redundant.

I have modified the posts about test results. I had to post it for the benefit of those who asked for a way forwards. This eediot now talking about liver wants to give the impression that was my idea.
Maybe they should send her the results and reports too
Or she thinks shouting it is well it is well means it is all well

shinejackie:
All the snide remarks and insult is unnecessary, Dj's issue should be the focus..

Well, I've realised that most, if not all of us here are good at giving, and detecting, snide remarks.

Some much drama in d air. Just don't know how someone will just open mouth and ridicule those who are helping out.
@babyosisi pls ignore those attacking u. U are on point
Are we concluding on India?