The only reason why shalke is playing madrid is that ,unlike other teams , shalke fans did not pray well well. I would have preferred to massacr.e arsenal, but their night vigil payed off.

dolphinheart:


The BBC movement is confusing you, they are so fluid in their interactions that you(not being a Madrid fan) cannot know who is in the wings and who is at the center.

official position: ronaldo LW benzema CF bale RW. everyone knows that. its normal for a winger to move into d box but its not normal to stay in front of opposition post waiting for a pass

dolphinheart:
The only reason why shalke is playing madrid is that ,unlike other teams , shalke fans did not pray well well. I would have preferred to massacr.e arsenal, but their night vigil payed off.

don't be so confident, never underestimate arsenal or any other team. I pray shalke 04 park the bus against Madrid tho the odds are unlikely as teams don't park bus against Madrid

Baddestguyp:
official position: ronaldo LW benzema CF bale RW. everyone knows that. its normal for a winger to move into d box but its not normal to stay in front of opposition post waiting for a pass

1. The BBC alternate positions during the match, so its not uncommon to see ronaldo in the box.

2. The team sometimes use a 4-4-2 formation instead of 4-3-3, so ull see ronaldo in the box mostimes.

3. The efficiency of marcelo , Kroos, and modric/isco/James have mostly done the job of a winger, so y always stay there to muddle things up.
4 . Funny, but Important. Ronaldo is so fast you dnt know when he moves from wing to box with or without the ball.

So he is still a winger with the efficiency of being everywhere in attack

Baddestguyp:
don't be so confident, never underestimate arsenal or any other team. I pray shalke 04 park the bus against Madrid tho the odds are unlikely as teams don't park bus against Madrid

I can underestimate arsenal, so far they have not proved me wrong in my estimation. They fail when facing big teams in elimination challenges.

U can't park the bus agaist a team like madrid for the following reason

1. Madrid don't waste time in attack, play possession football or try to sneak through ur defence. If u dnt attack them, they'll attack u the more. So its suicide parcking the bus .

2.Madrid can shoot from anywhere outside the box, bale, ronaldo, benzena, James, kroos and modric have good long range shooting ability. So madrid dnt need to be inside the box to score.

3. Madrid players are good at dead balls.

4 . Madrid players are strong and can jump well in the box . Pepe, Ramos, varane, benzema, ronaldo and bale

5. Madrid have good long range passers , so it takes them less than 5 seconds to get back into ur box after you kick it out.

6 . Most importantly , madrid always scores. To beat them ull have to outscore them . Average is over 3 goals per match

dolphinheart:


1. The BBC alternate positions during the match, so its not uncommon to see ronaldo in the box.

2. The team sometimes use a 4-4-2 formation instead of 4-3-3, so ull see ronaldo in the box mostimes.

3. The efficiency of marcelo , Kroos, and modric/isco/James have mostly done the job of a winger, so y always stay there to muddle things up.
4 . Funny, but Important. Ronaldo is so fast you dnt know when he moves from wing to box with or without the ball.

So he is still a winger with the efficiency of being everywhere in attack

good but this still means he doesn't really play as a winger

dolphinheart:


I can underestimate arsenal, so far they have not proved me wrong in my estimation. They fail when facing big teams in elimination challenges.

U can't park the bus agaist a team like madrid for the following reason

1. Madrid don't waste time in attack, play possession football or try to sneak through ur defence. If u dnt attack them, they'll attack u the more. So its suicide parcking the bus .

2.Madrid can shoot from anywhere outside the box, bale, ronaldo, benzena, James, kroos and modric have good long range shooting ability. So madrid dnt need to be inside the box to score.

3. Madrid players are good at dead balls.

4 . Madrid players are strong and can jump well in the box . Pepe, Ramos, varane, benzema, ronaldo and bale

5. Madrid have good long range passers , so it takes them less than 5 seconds to get back into ur box after you kick it out.

6 . Most importantly , madrid always scores. To beat them ull have to outscore them . Average is over 3 goals per match

I get ur point but note that parking bus doesn't mean you play a 10man defensive game, you can play a 4-3-3 and park bus. what u do is make sure d opponent gets nowhere near d box. keep them close to midfield and even a team like Madrid won't break them up if its done well but its hard. or is bale going to shoot from 40 yards out?

gatafe showed this in our last game, we could hardly come close to d box not to talk of shooting. inter also showed this against teams that play like Madrid a few years back

Baddestguyp:
good but this still means he doesn't really play as a winger

It means he is versertile, can move to any other position FROM the wings.

Baddestguyp:
he doesn't, or don't u watch Madrid games this season? hazard plays any wing, but ronaldo plays on center

If he dosnt den y does ronaldo score from both wings nd atyms in d middle. Yea he is a winger buh he does d overall job.

Baddestguyp:
I get ur point but note that parking bus doesn't mean you play a 10man defensive game, you can play a 4-3-3 and park bus. what u do is make sure d opponent gets nowhere near d box. keep them close to midfield and even a team like Madrid won't break them up if its done well but its hard. or is bale going to shoot from 40 yards out?

gatafe showed this in our last game, we could hardly come close to d box not to talk of shooting. inter also showed this against teams that play like Madrid a few years back

1. Yes it is hard, but based on the attributes of madrid I mentioned earlier, it is always done , example is the getafe u mentioned.

2. There is no goal scoring team like present madrid some years back .

Dhulqarnain:
Why City again? Easy draw 4 R.Madrid

so that city can carry out their revenge.

lovemaths:

so that city can carry out their revenge.

U wish

dolphinheart:


I can underestimate arsenal, so far they have not proved me wrong in my estimation. They fail when facing big teams in elimination challenges.

U can't park the bus agaist a team like madrid for the following reason

1. Madrid don't waste time in attack, play possession football or try to sneak through ur defence. If u dnt attack them, they'll attack u the more. So its suicide parcking the bus .

2.Madrid can shoot from anywhere outside the box, bale, ronaldo, benzena, James, kroos and modric have good long range shooting ability. So madrid dnt need to be inside the box to score.

3. Madrid players are good at dead balls.

4 . Madrid players are strong and can jump well in the box . Pepe, Ramos, varane, benzema, ronaldo and bale

5. Madrid have good long range passers , so it takes them less than 5 seconds to get back into ur box after you kick it out.

6 . Most importantly , madrid always scores. To beat them ull have to outscore them . Average is over 3 goals per match

Den why do dey find it difficult 2 beat Atletico

Dhulqarnain:

Den why do dey find it difficult 2 beat Atletico

When a team pack the bus agaist you, it is always difficult. I never said it will be easy, what I said was that with all the attributes that real madrid now has, and with the way they now play, it will be suicidal to pack the bus against them.
Its not gonna be easy for madrid, but a team that packs the bus agaist them now, reduces its chances of winning the match.
Remember, madrid sabi score goals wella.

dolphinheart:


When a team pack the bus agaist you, it is always difficult. I never said it will be easy, what I said was that with all the attributes that real madrid now has, and with the way they now play, it will be suicidal to pack the bus against them.
Its not gonna be easy for madrid, but a team that packs the bus agaist them now, reduces its chances of winning the match.
Remember, madrid sabi score goals wella.

A Team dat packs d bus also reduces Madrid's chances of scorin.
Beta 4 a team to pack d bus and wait 4 a counter dan 2 go all out and get thrashed

Dhulqarnain:

A Team dat packs d bus also reduces Madrid's chances of scorin.
Beta 4 a team to pack d bus and wait 4 a counter dan 2 go all out and get thrashed

Its left for the coach to decide which of his teams Strong point or part to use. Does his team have a strong defence or attack or both.
There is always a likelihood that madrid will score in every match, therefore the coach has to decide if his team will go out and outscore madrid , like in the case of barca, or pack the bus with the hope of limiting madrid goals while praying they score one or two in counter attack or dead balls.

But the problem with parking the bus with madrid is that while madrid have the shooting power, the passing ability(both long and short range) , high dead ball utilization, the physical power and speed to break down a team packing the bus , the team parking the bus is more at a disavantage when attacking madrid . Why?, because in packing the bus, u can only score by dead balls, counter attacks and opponents mistakes.
Madrid are rarely ever jittery, so mistakes is hard, they have some of the best defenders, so mistakes are rare. More importantly they have one of the best coaches in the world.
Madrid have strong and tall defenders, making scoring from dead balls harder.
Madrid players are averagely fast, both in defence and attack, therefore counter attack is almost and impossibility.

I'm not saying it can be done , just showing you how hard it is to beat madrid by parking the bus .
Its better to attack madrid than parking the bus. Most teams that have defeated madrid did so by attacking.

Like mourinho said, its hard to defeat a shark in the champions league sea.

dolphinheart:


Its left for the coach to decide which of his teams Strong point or part to use. Does his team have a strong defence or attack or both.
There is always a likelihood that madrid will score in every match, therefore the coach has to decide if his team will go out and outscore madrid , like in the case of barca, or pack the bus with the hope of limiting madrid goals while praying they score one or two in counter attack or dead balls.

But the problem with parking the bus with madrid is that while madrid have the shooting power, the passing ability(both long and short range) , high dead ball utilization, the physical power and speed to break down a team packing the bus , the team parking the bus is more at a disavantage when attacking madrid . Why?, because in packing the bus, u can only score by dead balls, counter attacks and opponents mistakes.
Madrid are rarely ever jittery, so mistakes is hard, they have some of the best defenders, so mistakes are rare. More importantly they have one of the best coaches in the world.
Madrid have strong and tall defenders, making scoring from dead balls harder.
Madrid players are averagely fast, both in defence and attack, therefore counter attack is almost and impossibility.

I'm not saying it can be done , just showing you how hard it is to beat madrid by parking the bus .
Its better to attack madrid than parking the bus. Most teams that have defeated madrid did so by attacking.

Like mourinho said, its hard to defeat a shark in the champions league sea.

Lets wait n c