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Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 3:13pm On Dec 26, 2014
SoulFitnessDiva3 weeks ago

"... I'm an ex-Jehovah's Witness and they are completely brainwashed and aren't allowed to have a conversation with a loved one/ex-member because of fear of demons/devil and fear of god. Jehovah's Witnesses shun their own children and other loved ones, they deny their children blood transfusions then when they die, the leaders put these kids faces on their religious magazine as "heroes" who were "faithful to Jehovah/god". Jehovah's Witnesses also mandate what married couples can and cannot do in bed with each other, and spouses are notorious for turning in the other spouse for forbidden sexual favours like MouthAction. And it only gets worse.

They also have a BIG paedophile problem, and the leaders send these paedophiles out to spread "the good news" for spiritual growth and service to god. But if another member reports one of these paedophiles to the police, they are "disfellowshipped" (excommunicated) and shunned by their family and community,because the leaders are "the only authority" - the real world authorities don't count. Hard to believe? Check out SilentLambs.Org. People keep your kids away from JW's.

It is impossible to argue with a Jehovah's Witness because they are so heavily indoctrinated and it runs many many layers deep. I know these things because I was raised in this religion, then turned to the pentecostal/born again/evangelical movement(s) before finally being forced to walk away. I walked because I learned about the history of the church, the history of how the bible was canonized yet, I tried to stick it out to have spiritual community. But the hypocrisy and mean-spiritedness made that impossible. Thirty years later, I still believe in an intelligence behind this whole scene, even if it's coming from some part of our personal or collective consciousness that we haven't figured out yet. Of course this is subjective and I can't prove this, which is fine. We are all on our own path and no longer have any interest in "converting' anyone ever again. Good video good channel. New subscriber. smiley
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 3:17pm On Dec 26, 2014
I saw this comment on a YouTube video.

Here is the commenters YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/SoulFitnessDivas

My JW friends, is what she says true or false ?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by RikoduoSennin(m): 4:26pm On Dec 26, 2014
Everything She said is Lies.....

2 Pet 2:1-3 "...Just as there will be false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies even denying the Master who bought them....and many will follow their licentiousness AND BECAUSE OF THEM THE WAY OF TRUTH WILL BE REVILED....and they will EXPLIOT YOU WITH FALSE WORDS....."

She is not of our sort because of that she lies, trying to tannish JW good name. Hahaha, she can't, JW organisation is bigger than her.

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 4:34pm On Dec 26, 2014
S.ban is here incase
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tandj: 4:45pm On Dec 26, 2014
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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by nora544: 5:06pm On Dec 26, 2014
What see say it is tru, and in my country we say it is a dangerous religion.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by honourhim: 5:13pm On Dec 26, 2014
She is not lying. I have a friend who is an ex JW. He also left them for these reasons. If you J.W. people here say she is lying pls point out where she lied and what you people stand on concerning any of her points.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by widowhusband: 5:20pm On Dec 26, 2014
Did not know truth or lie could be looked at from an angle of who (organisation) is bigger than who.In my opinion as regards christianity (dont know of other religious or spiritual group) any group who instead of telling about salvation through Jesus+ living righteously thereafter but spend their energy castigating,segregating,guarding doctrines are questionable
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by RikoduoSennin(m): 5:40pm On Dec 26, 2014
honourhim:
She is not lying. I have a friend who is an ex JW. He also left them for these reasons. If you J.W. people here say she is lying pls point out where she lied and what you people stand on concerning any of her points.

You and Nora544 please visit www.jw.org to see all our believes. Do not say something is true when you have not heard the opinion of the other party involve.

I can't quote her original comments, so that I can caounter her bullet for bullet, but I will try to parallel her comment later today.

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Dec 26, 2014
Always scheming to bring us down. smiley

It won't work.

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by RikoduoSennin(m): 3:09pm On Dec 27, 2014
1) She said: They are completely brainwashed!

This is false. Each JW read, study and convince themselves that they have Found the truth. There is no therapy of brainwashing. Where the Beoreans in Acts 17:11-13 Brainwashed? If they are then JW are?

2) She said: They aren't allowed to have a conversation with loved ones/ex-member because of fear of demons/devil and fear of god

JW fear demons/devil ? That is rich? I am yet to see one do that!




3) She said: JW shun their children and other loved ones

JW only shun children or loved ones who brazingly disregard God's commandment, unrepentant sinners who commit serious sins such as sexual immorality, idolatry etc just as the scriptures directs us to do.


1 John 4:20 " if a man say, I love God and hates his brother he is a liar for he that loves not his brother whom he has seen how can he love God whom he has not seen "

Have seen how witness treats their children and other loved ones first hand. Main while, JW have some personally flaws like every other people, flaws they are trying their best to correct.


4)She said: JW also mandate what married couples can and can not do with each other in bed

I really like to see any quotes from Watchtower/Awake where the above is stated. NO ONE TELLS MARRIED COUPLES WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH EACH OTHER IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR HOMES, that would be BUSYBODY

5) She said: Spouse are notorious for turning in the other spouse for 'forbidden' sexual favours like Mouth Action and it get worse
.

Is their any Forbidden sexual acts between a legally Married Couple ? She was just blowing out of proportion instances where one Mate reports the other for trying turn them into a IndecentStar- insatiable lust for Sex, which is common even among non JW couples too. Some couples visit therapist to solve this problem, some complain to family members too.

6) She said: They have 'big' paedophile problem..... Keep your kids away from JW

If the above were true, they would have run-ins with the Law on a regular basis. I am yet to see/hear such reports. No religion is against Pre-marital sex than JW, how can they be guilty of something like Paedophile which is part of serious sins like Rape, Murder, Homosexuality, Bestiality etc and equally repulsive.

This argument is baseless, Paedophile is a disfellowshipping offence. If we can shun sinful family members, what do you expect from someone not related to us by blood.


7) She said: Their leaders sends this paedophiles out to spread the Goodnews.

Which paedophiles? None exist among God's people

cool She said: If another member reports these paedophiles to the police he is disfellowshipped/excommunicated or shunned by family/ community

Give examples of the above statement. The scripture guides us: 1 corinthians 5:9-13 " I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with immoral men, NOT AT ALL MEANING THE IMMORAL MEN OF THIS WORLD....but I wrote to you not to ASSOCIATE WITH ANY ONE WHO BEARS THE NAME OF BROTHER IF HE IS GUILTY OF IMMORALITY OR GREED OR IDOLATER, REVILER, DRUNKARD OR ROBBER --NOT EVEN EATING WITH SUCH ONE. For what have I to do with judging outsiders, IS IT NOT THOSE INSIDE THE CHURCH WHOM YOU ARE TO JUDGE, God judges those outside, DRIVE OUT THE WICKED PERSON FROM AMONG YOU"

9) She said: Because their leaders are the "Only Authority"- the real world authorities don't count.

The Head of JW christian organisation is Jesus. Christians Overseers has as much authority as Men like Peter, John, James ,Paul etc has over the early christian congregations. They don't control the faith of others.

JW are law abiding Citizens, how often do you see them criticise Human Government like other religions/organisations? We don't oppose them except it borders on our worship.

Christians overseers do not control our every action. 1 Peter 5:1-3 " So I exhort the Elders among you....tend to the flock of God that is your charge not by constraint but willingly not for shameful gain but eagerly NOT DOMINEERING OVER THOSE IN YOUR CHARGE but being examples to the flock"

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 5:57pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:
Always scheming to bring us down. smiley

It won't work.
The pure language?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 5:59pm On Dec 27, 2014
tempem:

The pure language?

Yup. smiley
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 6:00pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


Yup. smiley
Nice meeting you.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Dec 27, 2014
tempem:

Nice meeting you.

"Jswit?"
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Dec 27, 2014
RikoduoSennin, you have their time. undecided
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 6:19pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


"Jswit?"
For real
..

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by dolphinheart(m): 6:21pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:
RikoduoSennin, you have their time. undecided

Its good he has their time o. So that everyone (sincere people) can come to a conclusion after reading all the posts .
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:22pm On Dec 27, 2014
tempem:

For real
..

Are you a Witness?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:24pm On Dec 27, 2014
dolphinheart:


Its good he has their time o. So that everyone (sincere people) can come to a conclusion after reading all the posts .

The greater majority won't read it, trust me. smiley
These people just want to ridicule us.
Why bother?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 6:25pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


Are you a Witness?
Yes now, Nelly...... A pioneer.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:26pm On Dec 27, 2014
tempem:

Yes now, Nelly...... A pioneer.

Regular? Same here cheesycheesycheesy

Wow, how many years?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by dolphinheart(m): 6:28pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


The greater majority won't read it, trust me. smiley
These people just want to ridicule us.
Why bother?

Well sis, the truth is not for the greater majority in the first place. That y I bracketed " sincere ones" . Some of them do read it.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:32pm On Dec 27, 2014
dolphinheart:


Well sis, the truth is not for the greater majority in the first place. That y I bracketed " sincere ones" . Some of them do read it.

sad
Huh? You support what he's doing?
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 6:32pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


Regular? Same here cheesycheesycheesy

Wow, how many years?
3+
started Feb 2011.
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Dec 27, 2014
tempem:

3+
started Feb 2011.

Mine is 3 years. smiley

Pleasure to meetcha cheesy
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by tempem: 6:36pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


Mine is 3 years. smiley

Pleasure to meetcha cheesy
Same pleasure here...
Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by dolphinheart(m): 6:44pm On Dec 27, 2014
MzNelly:


sad
Huh? You support what he's doing?

Well... I dnt think its wrong debunking lies about others on the internet. Expecially when it helps others know more about God.
But I do think that to who and how you do it is important .
I might be wrong sha o! And can only explain the reason why I think I might be wrong privately if you wish to know

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Dec 27, 2014
dolphinheart:


Well... I dnt think its wrong debunking lies about others on the internet. Expecially when it helps others know more about God.
But I do think that to who and how you do it is important .
I might be wrong sha o! And can only explain the reason why I think I might be wrong privately if you wish to know

I concur. You're not wrong in any sense.

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Re: Testimony Of Ex-Jehova's Witness - Perhaps She is lying ? by Yooguyz: 7:03pm On Dec 27, 2014
RikoduoSennin:
Everything She said is Lies.....

2 Pet 2:1-3 "...Just as there will be false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies even denying the Master who bought them....and many will follow their licentiousness AND BECAUSE OF THEM THE WAY OF TRUTH WILL BE REVILED....and they will EXPLIOT YOU WITH FALSE WORDS....."

She is not of our sort because of that she lies, trying to tannish JW good name. Hahaha, she can't, JW organisation is bigger than her.

Is she lying because she attacked your organisation? If she is lying, kindly refute her points, and with evidence. If you can't do that, then you are the liar.

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