₦airaland Forum

meccuno:
the funny thing about the coup was that there were both yoruba and hausa in the coup....but for some reasons unknown to us,it was labelled an igbo coup....

Na igbophobic bad belle

bakynes:
Mr noblezone don't blame anyone but your kins men who killed all d leaders of other regions and left their own. Zik was there they didn't kill him but they killed Akintola, Ahmadu bello and Tafabalewa. Ironsi would have made things right if he had executed the igbo junior officers who who killed the other regions leaders bt what did he do he installed a Federal Military Government and made himself the head of state and left the igbo junior officers unpunished.

your post is not only out of point, it is also irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned!

My post is very clear and my question very simple!

I said Ojukwu was blamed for the millions of deaths in Biafra! The killings were carried out by Nigerian soldiers? Gowon was the head of state, he was not blamed!

Now, Jonathan is the head od state and Boko Haram led ny Shekau is waging war against Nigeria!

Most of the deaths occur from Shekau and his Islamic army, yet, Jonathan is blamed and not Shekau.

My question is why?

noblezone:
your post is not only out of point, it is also irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned!

My post is very clear and my question very simple!

I said Ojukwu was blamed for the millions of deaths in Biafra! The killings were carried out by Nigerian soldiers? Gowon was the head of state, he was not blamed!

Now, Jonathan is the head od state and Boko Haram led ny Shekau is waging war against Nigeria!

Most of the deaths occur from Shekau and his Islamic army, yet, Jonathan is blamed and not Shekau.

My question is why?

The million dollar question

meccuno:
the funny thing about the coup was that there were both yoruba and hausa in the coup....but for some reasons unknown to us,it was labelled an igbo coup....

I recently watched a video called "The Real Story of Nigeria" and according to it just one Yoruba Soldier was among the junior igbo officers.That was why the Hausa Soldiers retaliated by killing the igbo soldiers in the Army.

noblezone:
your post is not only out of point, it is also irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned!

My post is very clear and my question very simple!

I said Ojukwu was blamed for the millions of deaths in Biafra! The killings were carried out by Nigerian soldiers? Gowon was the head of state, he was not blamed!

Now, Jonathan is the head od state and Boko Haram led ny Shekau is waging war against Nigeria!

Most of the deaths occur from Shekau and his Islamic army, yet, Jonathan is blamed and not Shekau.

My question is why?

Any right thinking Nigerian will be behind Jonathan. People are just angry with the way he is handling the issue with all the resources @ his disposal.But when you hear the first lady doesnt believe any girls were kidnapped one wld assume the president is not serious abt tackling the insurgency bt believe some pple are out to destabilize his administration, why not tackle the insurgency fish out the pple behind it if you say you know them. He shdnt even be making such statements if he knows he won't fight them coz he is the C-in-C how do you expect pple to take such statement.

bakynes:
Any right thinking Nigerian will be behind Jonathan. People are just angry with the way he is handling the issue with all the resources @ his disposal.

How is he handling or mishandling the issue?
He is opposed by those that matter most!
He is sabotaged at every angle!
He is criticized at every excuse.

Recall how Amechi and his Nigerian Governors Forum rejected the State of Emergency?
Not only him, Tinubu, Lai Mohammed, buhari, and the rest of them opposed him.

What solution did have? None!

Buhari suggested amnesty and dinner in Aso Rock, not minding the fact that Jonathan had offered that before an Boko Harm rejected it.

Soldiers sabotage and betray their colleagues to Boko Haram and get wasted in ambushes.
Time will tell.

dcaliph:
noblezone sentiments aside, there is no bases for comparing GEJ vrs Shekarau and Gowan vrs Ojukwu.

I would repeat my self again Gowan vrs Ojukwu was a fight between to MEN.

GEJ vrs shekarau is a fight between a boy and a small man.

Just imagime Ojukwu vrs GEJ or Ojukwu vrs shekarau and also Gowan vrs GEJ or Gowan vrs Shekarau.

noblezone ibos rally around Ojukwu because he was a strong man, and the rest of nigerians rally around Gowan because he was a strong mam.

PEOPLE RALLY AROUND THE STRONG NOT THE WEAK, THAT IS WHY THE LION IS THE KING OF THE JUNGLE. GOWAN AND OJUKWU ARE LIONS, DON‘T COMPARE THEM TO THE BOY.

You made only sentences, you have communicated nothing.

meccuno:
Imagine if boko haram was from the SE. And the head of state were to be a Northerner. Am sure you know what would have happened......

Are kidding me?
Let us not just imagine it.

But it is a shame!

Noblezone you are asking why?

As if the reason is not obvious enough??

Jonathan is an infidel from the east who doesn't merit to be the president of Nigeria. He must be subject to the born-to-rule people.

Otherwise tell me why GMB is now seen as our messiah, when we had already said no to him 3 consecutive times?

Oh and don't forget, a lot of oil mining licenses are due for renewal in 2016.

BTW did you forget that this BOKO thing was actually orchestrated to make Nigeria ungovernable for GEJ??

All these are a grand plot aimed at one thing. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is no other explanation I see.

Algebra12:
Noblezone you are asking why?

As if the reason is not obvious enough??

Jonathan is an infidel from the east who doesn't merit to be the president of Nigeria. He must be subject to the born-to-rule people.

Otherwise tell me why GMB is now seen as our messiah, when we had already said no to him 3 consecutive times?

Oh and don't forget, a lot of oil mining licenses are due for renewal in 2016.

BTW did you forget that this BOKO thing was actually orchestrated to make Nigeria ungovernable for GEJ??

All these are a grand plot aimed at one thing. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is no other explanation I see.

Thanks for saying it the way it is! My challenge is this, how come our people are so uninformed and so gullible?

berem:
Good to know that Noblezone didn't blame Buhari for the killing of Ndi Igbo during the biafran war this time around.

If you claim Igbo one more time, I will explode.

noblezone:
Thanks for saying it the way it is! My challenge is this, how come our people are so uninformed and so gullible?

When a lie is repeated severally, over a period of time, it comes to be accepted as truth.

Tell me if history is still being taught in our schools , if yes, what is the curriculum content of the history syllabus?

A lot of our people is being misinformed and that's too bad.

AlfaSeltzer:
If you claim Igbo one more time, I will explode.

go ahead and explode you devil's advocate.

noblezone:
You made only sentences, you have communicated nothing.

if you say so, i don‘t do tribal talk a out of here

tobtap:
ojukwu was the rebel and he declared a part of nigeria territory independent without the national govt approval....so gowon was right in fighting for the unity of nigeria which unfortunately led to innocent deaths on all sides

The ignorance you displayed in the above post is a clear testimony of Nigeria's state of hopelessness.

tobtap:
i wont go into insults like u,but as far as i know,ojukwu was wrong.u dont just declare a session of the nation independent like that and expect the central govt not to act and defend it territory...ojukwu caused the death of millions during the war due to his personal ambition

You are stark ignorance.

noblezone:
your post is not only out of point, it is also irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned!

My post is very clear and my question very simple!

I said Ojukwu was blamed for the millions of deaths in Biafra! The killings were carried out by Nigerian soldiers? Gowon was the head of state, he was not blamed!

Now, Jonathan is the head od state and Boko Haram led ny Shekau is waging war against Nigeria!

Most of the deaths occur from Shekau and his Islamic army, yet, Jonathan is blamed and not Shekau.

My question is why?

GEJ borrowed $1billion for the war against insurgency all to no avail and you expect him not to be blamed? Gowon fought not only against biafra but against french, spanish, german, russian, italian, isreali etc mercenaries, though he had his own support too, and still defeated them. Which mercenaries do boko haram have? None, yet our clueless president cannot defeat the ragtag untrained soldiers. That's why we blame him.

noblezone:
Your comment has not answered my question!

I am not even arguing whether Ojukwu was right or wrong!

Let us for the sake of arguement, say that, Ojukwu rebelled against Nigeria, the same way Shekau is rebelling against Nigeria!

Nigerians came together to crush Ojukwu, Gowon was not called clueless, neither was he sabotaged. Nigerians rallied round Gowon to fight Ojukwu!

My question is this, why has Nigerians instead rallying round Jonathan to fight Shekau are rather calling for Jonathan's head?

Am proud of u. For this, u have earned my RESPECT forever. Peace.

sCun:
So you have no problem if everyone in Gwoza, Damboa etc gets killed and starved because Shekau declared the place an Islamic caliphate?

I have been waiting for SW and few dumbass southerners to join GEJ in declaring war against northern region in general and Bauchi State in particular because Shekau declared certain part of Nigeria as Islamic Caliphate. In addition, the Boko Haram sects are armed and attacking Nigeria militarily.

Algebra12:
When a lie is repeated severally, over a period of time, it comes to be accepted as truth.

Tell me if history is still being taught in our schools , if yes, what is the curriculum content of the history syllabus?

A lot of our people is being misinformed and that's too bad.

They thought us Lord Luggard, Mongo Park and Usman Dan Fodio!
The most annoying is that of Usman Dan Fodio, a well known Islamic terrorist was presented to us as a hero!
Shame!

Today, they are walking hard to change the history of a criminal and tyrant called Buhari into that of a "messiah"!
Please, we need to do more to educate our people!

Nigeria is a big fraud!

dcaliph:
noblezone sentiments aside, there is no bases for comparing GEJ vrs Shekarau and Gowan vrs Ojukwu.

I would repeat my self again Gowan vrs Ojukwu was a fight between to MEN.

GEJ vrs shekarau is a fight between a boy and a small man.

Just imagime Ojukwu vrs GEJ or Ojukwu vrs shekarau and also Gowan vrs GEJ or Gowan vrs Shekarau.

noblezone ibos rally around Ojukwu because he was a strong man, and the rest of nigerians rally around Gowan because he was a strong mam.

PEOPLE RALLY AROUND THE STRONG NOT THE WEAK, THAT IS WHY THE LION IS THE KING OF THE JUNGLE. GOWAN AND OJUKWU ARE LIONS, DON‘T COMPARE THEM TO THE BOY.

for ur mind now u're making sense.

tobtap:
shekau is not the president of nigeria....jonathan is the president so the blame goes to him

It seems you have a knack for foolishness. I guess Ojukwu whom you blamed for civil war was Nigerian Head of State. Did your memory vanish when you blamed Ojukwu instead Gowon who usurped the position of Head of State in 1966?

eighTHREAD:
GEJ borrowed $1billion for the war against insurgency all to no avail and you expect him not to be blamed? Gowon fought not only against biafra but against french, spanish, german, russian, italian, isreali etc mercenaries, though he had his own support too, and still defeated them. Which mercenaries do boko haram have? None, yet our clueless president cannot defeat the ragtag untrained soldiers. That's why we blame him.

The one $1B you are talking about is just a recent development, but that is by the way!
Did you say Gowon fought agisnt French, spanish, german, russian, italian, isreali etc mercenaries?
I can really see why Africa is a dark continent.

Which history are you reading? That is also by the way!

You have still got my point bro,

Nigerians gathered are rallied round Gowon to fight Ojukwu, but now, Nigerians are either sitting on the fence or sabotaging Jonathan in fighting Boko Haram.

When Igbos were being slaughtered all over Nigeria (even before the declaration of Biafra), did anybody call Gown clueless?
Did they ask for his head? Did they not support him?

Nigerians leaders today are sabotaging Jonathan's effort in this war!
You are just beating about the bush, you have not told me why!

eighTHREAD:
GEJ borrowed $1billion for the war against insurgency all to no avail and you expect him not to be blamed? Gowon fought not only against biafra but against french, spanish, german, russian, italian, isreali etc mercenaries, though he had his own support too, and still defeated them. Which mercenaries do boko haram have? None, yet our clueless president cannot defeat the ragtag untrained soldiers. That's why we blame him.

If u are the president, i want u to b sincere, with the high level of sabotage from a section of the country, do u think u can return relative peace to Mubi with just $1 billion.
Blame GEJ, only after giving him 100% support, just like Gowon.
Noblezone just asked a $3 billion question and nobody has answered that. So am taking the explanation by Algebra12

Duru1:
I have been waiting for SW and few dumbass southerners to join GEJ in declaring war against northern region in general and Bauchi State in particular because Shekau declared certain part of Nigeria as Islamic Caliphate. In addition, the Boko Haram sects are armed and attacking Nigeria militarily.

That would never happen!
Rather than that, they even blame Jonathan and accuse him of genocide over death of Boko Haram members!

And they want me to sing the Nigerian National anthem and fly her flag high?
I am still wondering why some of our people are so gullible an deluded.
What can we do to educate them?

tobtap:
there are ways to leave a union....if am right, to leave a union both sides must agree and then go thru the legal way as agreed....i will still repeat what i said earlier that ojukwu rushed into the decision to declare a section of a country independent.

In your infantile stream of thought, you deduced that coup which brought Gowon to power was the legal way to change a government. Gowon shamelessly vowed he was not integral part of the coup plotters. Ojukwu argued since Gowon has disingenuously lied he is not part of coup and Head of State was missing, chain of command should be maintained, thus, Ogundipe should be the Head of State. Any unbiased Nigerian who kicked against this plank of agreement is a moronic dingbat.

Duru1:
In your infantile stream of thought, you deduced that coup which brought Gowon to power was the legal way to change a government. Gowon shamelessly vowed he was not integral part of the coup plotters. Ojukwu argued since Gowon has disingenuously lied he is not part of coup and Head of State was missing, chain of command should be maintained, thus, Ogundipe should be the Head of State. Any unbiased Nigerian who kicked against this plank of agreement is a moronic dingbat.

Gowons mumuness knows no bounds

noblezone:
That would never happen!
Rather than that, they even blame Jonathan and accuse him of genocide over death of Boko Haram members!

And they want me to sing the Nigerian National anthem and fly her flag high?
I am still wondering why some of our people are so gullible an deluded.
What can we do to educate them?

Bros a situation with Boko Haram and Nigeria tells true story about Nigeria. Nigeria is a practical joke.

If this country is not one hell of a fraud, everybody wud see it as due responsibility to align with the president in the fight against insurgency. This whole charade of cluelessness churned out by a set of people shows they simply abhor a south south candidate becoming president of Nigeria.

Iykopee:
If this country is not one hell of a fraud, everybody wud see it as due responsibility to align with the president in the fight against insurgency. This whole charade of cluelessness churned out by a set of people shows they simply abhor a south south candidate becoming president of Nigeria.

On point

Duru1:
Bros a situation with Boko Haram and Nigeria tells true story about Nigeria. Nigeria is a practical joke.

Exactly, and we have some work to do!
Serious work to liberate our people from mental slavery and bondage.

eighTHREAD:
GEJ borrowed $1billion for the war against insurgency all to no avail and you expect him not to be blamed? Gowon fought not only against biafra but against french, spanish, german, russian, italian, isreali etc mercenaries, though he had his own support too, and still defeated them. Which mercenaries do boko haram have? None, yet our clueless president cannot defeat the ragtag untrained soldiers. That's why we blame him.

please oh! Who told you gowon fought against german,russian,italian,israeli and spanish mercenaries? If the biafran troops had all these,I doubt if they would have lost the war......please get your facts righþ and don't misinform people please...