Sagamite:


Who they are attracted to is normal.

Whatever action they utilise in the attractraction is a different case.

You have to learn the difference between desires and actions.



I suggest you go back and read my posts on this thread.

When you do, I implore you to read it carefully and take some time to comprehend it.

carefreewannabe:


When you answer my question:

How is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function?

FrancisTony:

Okay, let's agree it's a mental disorders.

Since they aren't enticed by female sexual organs and no cure for it:

What do you think?

Sagamite:


You can ask your question to who made that statement.

I doubt you can argue your claims though. It is another claim similar to imprecise and highly disputable.

carefreewannabe:


Is paedophilia a mental disorder?

Is homosexuality a mental disorder?

Define "abnormal sexual desire", please.

Sagamite:

Yes, they are disorders.

An "abnormal sexual desire" is any sexual desire that perverses the natural and normal use of sexual organs.

Carefreewannabe:

Define mental disorder, please.

Sagamite:
A mental disorder is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm. [/b]Mental disorders are generally defined by a combination of how a person feels, acts, thinks or perceives. This may be associated with particular regions or functions of the brain or rest of the nervous system, often in a social context.

Sagamite:


Lets investigate a cure to it before claiming it has no cure and then trying to force it on society as "progressive".

FrancisTony:

It's inborn.

I believe homosexuals, heterosexuals, bisexuals, paedophilia, bestiality etc were born that way.
No one would want to choose it.

What matters is consent.
Only homosexual & heterosexual is done in agreement with the two party involved.

By the way, scientists don try jare.

Sagamite:


I believe so too. That is why I don't hate them. They did not choose it.

Consent is not the only thing that matters. Not to me.

The sight of it is disgusting. It is now even more frequent in the UK. I can be watching TV innocently and all of a sudden a channel shows me without any warning two men kissing. It is disgusting.

The fact people want to integrate it into my life is what matters to me.

Scientists have not tried a jot bit.

FrancisTony:

It's inborn.

I believe homosexuals, heterosexuals, bisexuals, paedophilia, bestiality etc were born that way.
No one would want to choose it.

What matters is consent.
Only homosexual & heterosexual is done in agreement with the two party involved.

By the way, scientists don try jare.

FrancisTony:

It's legalised in ALL european countries except RUSSIA, right?

carefreewannabe:


You give up too easily.

Sagamite talks like he does not know that research institutes have repeatedly complained that they are underfunded and that governments do not even have enough money to work on the development of remedies and medications, antiserums etc. for far more dangerous and deadly diseases, which do not only threaten individuals but whole populations.

Apart from this, his OWN definition of mental disorders contradicts his claim that homosexuality is a mental disorder.

Sagamite:


Again, another statement that misrepresents or insinuate wrongly what I said.

I said, they have not tried a jot bit.

How does your point that they don't have and are not being provided with the funds disproves that?

Explain.

The beauty of internet forums. Everything one says can be referred to EXACTLY the way it was said and would make arguments hard for some who do not listen/are not receptive to what is said in a debate and then come up with their own intepretation or strawmans to fit their flawed position they don't want to change.

carefreewannabe:


Another post that proves how misinformed you are and clouded by sentiments (opinions based on feelings, here disgust).

Who told you that they have not tried to find a cure and to cure it?

By the way, why should they? Because you feel disgusted?

I feel disgusted too, not with homo*sexuality, but with adults who fart and belch around me?
How can we re-socialize them? I feel disgusted.

Sagamite:


Show me where they have tried to find a cure in modern times.

I wait.

carefreewannabe:


When you show me how according to YOUR definition homosexuality is a mental disorder.

Then I will not only show you how they tried to cure homo*sexuals but also why it was a wate of time.

Until then, stop diverting.

Sagamite:


I will add the two to your pack of numerous assertions you cannot defend like imprecise and highly disputable.

carefreewannabe:


How is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function?

Sagamite:


Ask the person who made the statement.

Online forum!

Sagamite:


I believe so too. That is why I don't hate them. They did not choose it.

Consent is not the only thing that matters. Not to me.

The sight of it is disgusting. It is now even more frequent in the UK[b]. I can be watching TV innocently and all of a sudden a channel shows me without any warning two men kissing. It is disgusting.[/b]

The fact people want to integrate it into my life is what matters to me.

Scientists have not tried a jot bit.

oyb:


I have to agree with this. The drive for integration is extremely aggressive. Shows keep on throwing gay characters and 90% of the time, the orientation adds nothing to the storyline.

I have the entire 4 seasons of avatar legend of korra waiting to watch, but it seems the finale features some sort of gay plot twist. I don't even want to find out.

oyb:


I have to agree with this. The drive for integration is extremely aggressive. Shows keep on throwing gay characters and 90% of the time, the orientation adds nothing to the storyline.

I have the entire 4 seasons of avatar legend of korra waiting to watch, but it seems the finale features some sort of gay plot twist. I don't even want to find out.

oyb:


I have to agree with this. The drive for integration is extremely aggressive. Shows keep on throwing gay characters and 90% of the time, the orientation adds nothing to the storyline.

I have the entire 4 seasons of avatar legend of korra waiting to watch, but it seems the finale features some sort of gay plot twist. I don't even want to find out.

FrancisTony:

It's inborn.

I believe homosexuals, heterosexuals, bisexuals, paedophilia, bestiality etc were born that way.
No one would want to choose it.

What matters is consent.
Only homosexual & heterosexual is done in agreement with the two party involved.

By the way, scientists don try jare.

BlackLeopard:
This, above me, shining truth.

Homophobes in fact do have an impairment though, they're not able to recognize variety of life (that's perfectly natural even, QED.. oh let me guess... found in every species in nature.), and they're also unable to function with people being different from them - which last I noticed was the true downfall to society.

Aka all of you arguing homosexuality is a disorder, have a seat, you're stuck somewhere in the fifties of Western psychology and otherwise in all of those traditions that are a reason Africa doesn't move forward fast enough. Because jeeeez, no society moves forward when full of hateful bigots who can't do two simple things right: live and let live.

chucktoon:


Obviously your 'knowledge' of genomes and genetics doesn't seem to be above Wikipedia level.

Next, you'll be stating that there's a gene responsible for being a gay, because 'scientists' said so. You're very mistaken.

chucktoon:


homophobe

oyb:


Actually I'm mostly indifferent. Check my post history. I however am not amenable to the consistent shoving it in your face.

wkid:
That is very wrong. He deserved what he got.

I dislike rape and pedophiles.


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