kITATITA:

It is not about Patrick Utomi. It's economics and facts. Is your life better now than four years ago?

omonnakoda:
LEAVE PAT UTOMI ALONE AND DEAL WITH THE POINTS HE RAISED

Every time germane points are raised we start to hear

Buhari is Boko Haram
Soludo is Fulani
Utomi dey bleach
Amaechi is gay...........

We don hear
The bottomlime

AM I BETTER OFF TODAY THAN I WAS 5 or 6 YEARS AGO

I will add to that

DO I BELIEVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WILL BRING FURTHER IMPROVEMENT FOR ME

That is the KOKO LEAVE UTOMI ALONE

yhusiee:
loooooonggggg story. Guess I will b back much l8r 2 read it, dnt trust me though

kaboninc:


Its so easy when we place blames on others and most dangerously on the wrong person.

This issue you just highlighted was the same issue NOI has been shouting, fighting and praying that these politicians will see reasons. Yet it was one of the problems Amaechi had with GEJ in the Governor's Forum.

Its the same issue these ignorant APC goons keep using as a launching pad for the attack on GEJ for 'wasting' the ECA. Now this same Pat Utomi has come up with his own rag-tag analysis. We should ask what did these same Governors do with their own share of the ECA?

See, we do not know what it takes to become a leader until we become one, until we begin to assume a role as a leader and in fact, a very divided, complicated, complex and dynamic society as ours we'll never know or have an idea of how difficult and most times endangering it could be.

Now one question he asked if I am better off as a person in the last four years? My answer to that is YES. How? Roads have been re-constructed and time wastage on roads have been reduced. I ply these roads. Increased economic activity translates to improved bottom line results. Stable exchange rates, stable prices and a single digit inflation rate even in times of low oil prices - I guess he didn't notice it. Reduced food prices as a result of improving Agricultural sector. Crashed cement prices - affordable housing. Improved maternal health, reduced child birth and maternal mortality. As a creative entrepreneur, I get too many options to choose from in seeking grants (loans) from Micro Finance institutions not banks with their high interest rates. Reduced travel time (remodelled, upgraded airports) for international flights into the Eastern part of the country. YES, improved power supply and security especially here in Lagos. And so much more. Oh, increased allowee for Youth Corps members.

So YES, in four years, my life has been better off.

Splashme:
[size=13pt]1) Pat Utomi was handed the popular Volkswagen Nigeria and he run it aground

2) Same Pat Utomi managed Platinum bank. The bank was weak and forced to merge with Habib to become Bank PHB. Even the Bank PHB, where is it now? We are now hearing of Keystone bank owned by new owners because Patitos gang could not manage it properly.

3) My point is, 'talk is cheap'. Nigerians love to criticise alot especially while outside of government. Pat himself could not manage very minute aspects of the economy to profitability. If Okonjo, Reuben Abati etc where not in govt there would probably be criticising too[/size]

I do think that it is demeaning of the democratic process for people who are responding, instead of looking at the issues he has raised and providing facts to dispute or support, to then embark on ad hominem and personal broad fights against him. By making the whole thing emotive, rather than rational, they take away from quality democracy and this is part of fanning the embers of violence that is going on in this environment.

gregg2:
I wish we could rewind this country 2 to 3yrs back so we can spot all those that kicked against savings for rainy day. They fought ECA, SWF and oil benchmarks even when Okonjo-Iweala continued shouting and warning us all. This is the list I can remember:

1) House of Reps (PDP, ACN, CPC etc members because constituency projects)

2) Amaechi's faction of governors forum -opposed SWF and ECA savings strongly and up to the courts

3) Punch newspaper and The Nations - they nearly labelled Okonjo-Iweala an enemy of the nation - preaching savings for rainy day when according to them it was already raining

4) Tinubu - I remember an interview he attacked the FG to save it's own share of the federation account if they care but release the states govs share claiming they have a lot to do at home

Sovereign Wealth Fund is to Deceive Nigerians, says Tinubu
October 27, 2011

Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) national leader Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu has criticised the creation of Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF) by the Federal Government.


Describing it as “illegal”, the former Lagos State governor said he is in support of the legal action taken by governors against the Federal Government.


Tinubu told reporters in Abuja that SWF is another name for Excess Crude Account to deceive Nigerians by the Federal Government.


His words: “I’m in full support of the governors going to court. The Sovereign Wealth Fund is an illegal looting committed under an act. It is giving the Excess Crude Account (ECA) another name and taking it to the House for illegal constitutional amendment.


“When an act confiscates and contradicts the constitution, Section 162 of the constitution says all revenue must be distributed. You cannot act unconstitutionally if you are a government of rule of law. You are confiscating the money of the state; you are violating the constitution; it is illegal.


“It is an amendment to the constitution if it is not seen clearly by Nigerians. Otherwise, Section 162 of the constitution is useless. What are the steps to be taken before an amendment to the constitution takes effect. That is clear there. I ask, if you are a regular saver and your child is dying of anaemia in a hospital and you say you are saving for that child to inherit, will you say you must save that money and not pay for the blood if the child needs blood transfusion?


“The states say this is our time to develop, why are you forcing them? You can save the federal government portion. It is unconstitutional. I’m in support of the governors.”

More from: https://www.facebook.com/notes/action-congress-of-nigeria/sovereign-wealth-fund-is-to-deceive-nigerians-says-tinubu/236863166366835

Nonsoco80:
Some of those people in the past 16 years are now in APC and yet u are here shouting CHANGE. Same old wine in different bottle.

vigasimple:


Great points you have raised here.

The next logical question for you ( I presume in the change camp)

Is that, if we genuinely want to move this country forward, Is Bhuari the man who can do that?

Look, I will be honest with you, as per APC and Bhuari the election is about power shifting to the north and Tinubu getting influence at the federal level. They have absolutely nothing to offer or move this country forward.

where are the 40-50 something year's old tested governors?

kITATITA:

You probably work for this government. I'm not hungry in any way but I have more people approaching me for assistance and more people bemoaning loss of opportunities. The hospitals are not better and the schools are not better. We shouldn't abrogate the discourse. It should be fact oriented.

kaboninc:


Firstly, you do not even know what happens in Rivers State. You claim Amaechi has been saving? For whom? For what purpose? Why? For elections?

Because I do know that he is constructing a light rail from Mile 1 to Lagos which is JUST 50 NAIRA ONLY using either BUS or TAXI for close to 4 years. Yet GEJ constructed thousands of kilometres of rail lines across the length and breath of this country in 6 years. Now who is deceiving who?

In that same Rivers, GEJ is constructing the East-West road and Port-Harcourt - Owerri expressway. Amaechi said spent close to 100 Billion NGN constructing the Omagwa - Eleme section of the road which of course will be refunded but contested.

If you know what SWF is, you'd be the first to embrace and promote the concept behind it. Its laughable when you say its illegal. You should know its equivalent to the Stabilisation Fund your new comrade Utomi was talking about. Yet it was you Amaechi guy who spear-headed the fight against it.

So long as you're one of these APC fans, you won't be objective.

vigasimple:


Great points you have raised here.

The next logical question for you ( I presume in the change camp)

Is that, if we genuinely want to move this country forward, Is Bhuari the man who can do that?

Look, I will be honest with you, as per APC and Bhuari the election is about power shifting to the north and Tinubu getting influence at the federal level. They have absolutely nothing to offer or move this country forward.

where are the 40-50 something year's old tested governors?

omonnakoda:
Probably you did not read or did not understand what you read.

The Federal Government receives about 54% of the oil revenue so why did they not apply thi so called benchmark to their own share. Even with the bench mark in place in the budget which is the law the FG has been breaking the law by sharing the ECA when the governors take their share. Yes the governors are ENTITLED to take their share but there should still be 54% of it remaining WHERE IS IT?
Instead the FG has spent it all and BORROWED at an unprecedented rate. NO GOVERNMENT in our HISTORY HAS BORROWED AS MUCH AS THE FG in the last 4 years. No Government has enjoyed as much oil revenue. No Government has had as much money as this government.
Where is it?

Finally what has the FG done to diversify its sources of revenue?
I am sorry we cannot blame the governors and if we must the FG MUST TAKE 54% OF THE BLAME

gregg2:
I wish we could rewind this country 2 to 3yrs back so we can spot all those that kicked against savings for rainy day. They fought ECA, SWF and oil benchmarks even when Okonjo-Iweala continued shouting and warning us all. This is the list I can remember:

1) House of Reps (PDP, ACN, CPC etc members because constituency projects)

2) Amaechi's faction of governors forum -opposed SWF and ECA savings strongly and up to the courts

3) Punch newspaper and The Nations - they nearly labelled Okonjo-Iweala an enemy of the nation - preaching savings for rainy day when according to them it was already raining

4) Tinubu - I remember an interview he attacked the FG to save it's own share of the federation account if they care but release the states govs share claiming they have a lot to do at home

gregg2:
I wish we could rewind this country 2 to 3yrs back so we can spot all those that kicked against savings for rainy day. They fought ECA, SWF and oil benchmarks even when Okonjo-Iweala continued shouting and warning us all. This is the list I can remember:

1) House of Reps (PDP, ACN, CPC etc members because constituency projects)

2) Amaechi's faction of governors forum -opposed SWF and ECA savings strongly and up to the courts

3) Punch newspaper and The Nations - they nearly labelled Okonjo-Iweala an enemy of the nation - preaching savings for rainy day when according to them it was already raining

4) Tinubu - I remember an interview he attacked the FG to save it's own share of the federation account if they care but release the states govs share claiming they have a lot to do at home

Maser:
I want every Nairalander to understand one thing. Most of the people who sound irrational with their comments even in the face of poking facts belong to a cult of politically-hired internet warriors. I learnt of recent that many of them are on the payroll of PDP, APGA etc as full time employment to attack any thread and anyone that is inimical to their cause and to mis-inform the public especially the gullible. These people have sold their birthright for a plate of pottage. Trust politicians, they'll be used and dumped like they do hired political thugs. Little wonder someone could attack Utomi despite his well articulated screaming facts.

kaboninc:


Firstly, you do not even know what happens in Rivers State. You claim Amaechi has been saving? For whom? For what purpose? Why? For elections?

Because I do know that he is constructing a light rail from Mile 1 to Lagos which is JUST 50 NAIRA ONLY using either BUS or TAXI for close to 4 years. Yet GEJ constructed thousands of kilometres of rail lines across the length and breath of this country in 6 years. Now who is deceiving who?

In that same Rivers, GEJ is constructing the East-West road and Port-Harcourt - Owerri expressway. Amaechi said spent close to 100 Billion NGN constructing the Omagwa - Eleme section of the road which of course will be refunded but contested.

If you know what SWF is, you'd be the first to embrace and promote the concept behind it. Its laughable when you say its illegal. You should know its equivalent to the Stabilisation Fund your new comrade Utomi was talking about. Yet it was you Amaechi guy who spear-headed the fight against it.

So long as you're one of these APC fans, you won't be objective.

ASL33:
When you say the hospitals are not better and schools are not better, pls state the schools and hospital then know whose duty to make it function better. As far as I know the federal govt don't run majority of state secondary schools in Nigeria, I don't know why we should blame Fed govt for poor state of secondary schools, the state govt runs General Hospitals, are they better than the federal medical center run by federal govt. The Governors has used you people to the extent you guys forget the functions of the governor.

Splashme:


Oga, for me and my family, yes, our lives are much better now than it was 4yrs ago.

Stop whining on social media waiting on govt to provide your every need. Our annual budget is a paltry 4 trillion. 75% of that is used for workers salary while the remaining 25% is used for projects in a population of over 170m people

omonnakoda:

No I am not in any camp but right now I would rather have Mr Ibu rule Nigeria anyone even a goat is better than GEJ. I have fully resented the power return to north agenda and I believe GEJ has had 4 years ,the power of incumbency and the highest oil revenue on record to make the power must return to the North advocates look stupid . He failed what more does he want? Is it now that oil is $40 that he wil do magic. . Also he is too parochial even worse that the North Look at his close circle Where are the Urhobos,Where are the Ogonis ,The Ekpeyes' the Itsekiris etc . All we hear is Asari Tompolo,Dieziani. That power return to the North does not scare anyone, We have seen the worst they can do it is not this bad!! .If it returns to the North It will return to the south.The earlier it goes north the earlier it returns. 4 more years of GEJ is a LOSS to the South. Ijaws are not doing themselves any favours by telling themselves the truth. Ijaw are a minority and very rarely get the opportunity.Their son got the opportunity HAS HE DONE WELL?. When we say power must remain in the south. Did he carry ALL the south along or just his Ijaw people. Did he not realize that this day will come. Four years is not eternity
So stop playing the scare card

We must return to the key question


ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 YEARS AGO.ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 YEARS AGO.ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 YEARS AGO.
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ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 YEARS AGO.