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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:42am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 2: Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity. Governor Amaechi said the governors insisted on sharing the funds because they found out that you were illegally fiddling with the savings. So, as Nigerians still wonder, if billions of dollars are now ‘missing’ under your nose, why should governors trust you to keep their money?

Do the states that have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court and refused to save also include the PDP governors—who are in the majority? If so, then it is fatal: even governors of your own party, PDP, do not trust you to keep their money!

Furthermore, did the governors also stop the Federal Government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the Federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice. The key point is that since you were running huge deficits yourself, it was also in your own interest to share the ECA. You did not show leadership or credibility, full stop!

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:43am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 3: First, you admit that ‘oil theft’ has reduced oil output from the average 2.3 – 2.4 million barrels per day (mpd) to 1.95mpd (meaning that at least 350,000 to 450,000 barrels per day are being ‘stolen’. On the average of 400,000 per day and the oil prices over the past four years, it comes to about $60 billion ‘stolen’ in just four years. In today’s exchange rate, that is about N12.6 trillion. This is at a time of cessation of crisis in the Niger Delta and amnesty programme. Can you tell Nigerians how much the amnesty programme costs, and also the annual cost for ‘protecting’ the pipelines and security of oil wells? And the ‘thieves’ are spirits?

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by discusant: 9:43am On Feb 04, 2015

BabaO2:
Sanusi dey lie, Now soludo dey lie again.....Let me tell you one bitter truth today, jonathan is leaving that office by May 29 2015. Another thing you must know is that, only and if only our military are not well trained that they will not intervened, this is an indictment on their responsibility to the nation..

Fool, the military people that were there before, like Buhari, Abacha. OBJ, IBB, are they the type you are wishing back because an Ijaw man you have less regard for is occupying Aso Rock? Sanusi and Soludo, both were hired by the opposition to brand the incumbent administration as very corrupt. I see OBJ hand in this Soludo stupidity.

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:44am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 4: As coordinator of the economy, can you tell Nigerians why the price of automotive gas oil (AGO), popularly called diesel, has still not come down despite the crash in global crude oil prices, and how much is being appropriated by friends in the process?

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by farem: 9:45am On Feb 04, 2015

egift:
Once again, PDP is sweeping this massive loot under the carpet. Dr. NOI has also suddenly become deaf and dumb.

And some will still ask Nigerians to reelect PDP to Continue Stealing from where they stopped. If about 30,000,000,000,000 (30 trillion) naira can be stolen in 4 yrs, now imaging what PDP have done to Nigeria in 16yrs.

Vote for Change. Vote APC - this money will go into infrastructures and empowering Nigerians to start their own businesses.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:45am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 5: Second, my earlier article stated that the minimum forex reserves should have been at least $90 billion by now and you did not challenge it. Rather it is about $30 billion, meaning that gross mismanagement has denied the country some $60 billion or another N12.6 trillion.

Now add the ‘missing’ $20 billion from the NNPC. You promised a forensic audit report ‘soon’, and more than a year later the Report itself is still ‘missing’. This is over N4 trillion, and we don’t know how much more has ‘missed’ since Sanusi cried out. How many trillions of naira were paid for oil subsidy (unappropriated?). How many trillions (in actual fact) have been ‘lost’ through customs duty waivers over the last four years?

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by egift(m): 9:45am On Feb 04, 2015

KEVIND:
How much is the total revenue of Nigeria for 4yrs?

You tell me, because to the best of my knowledge, the massive looting the Jonathan is presiding over is making it difficult to calculate the true value of our earnings. We can only consider what made it to the account books before those were stolen too.

KEVIND:
Nigeria didn't make that amount in 4yrs.

Because it was stolen and was not accounted for. For your info, the budget is not to value of what we make. In fact budgets are projected.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Herrmes: 9:46am On Feb 04, 2015

I don't care if 500 trillion Naira was stolen, all I need is not to see Goodluck Johnathan's face on sofifa.com again, its irritating me.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:46am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 6: By the way, can you tell Nigerians why you were eased out as Finance Minister and you cried like a baby begging OBJ to still allow you remain in the Economic Management team—- barely few weeks after the debt relief? Why were you eventually also removed from the economic management team if you were so important? Ironically, President Jonathan has recycled you, with a bigger title and greater responsibilities. But the difference is that the team that did the actual work is no longer there, and the world has seen that the king is Unclad.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:47am On Feb 04, 2015

STRIKE 7: Your magic wand for mass housing is the Mortgage Refinance Corporation with 23,000 mortgage offers—for a country with 17 million housing deficit! Then, there is the pedestrian proposal of a new development bank— financed with loans from the World Bank, etc? A World Bank loan to set up another ‘development bank’ where we already have Bank of Industry, Bank of Agriculture, NEXIM, Federal Mortgage Bank, etc? People have totally run out of ideas and can’t see anything for Nigeria without through the prism of the World Bank.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by pekeyim: 9:50am On Feb 04, 2015

egift:
Soludo clear stated where the money was missing from - Crude oil stolen by people close to Jonathan. There is even allegations that Patience have vessels siphoning and bunkering crude oil for her.

You get head Sha!!!

Please just vote for ur No Certificate Man and stop spewing trash on the Internet!!!

Daily crude oil production in Nigeria is about 2 million!

The Nigerian yearly budget is about 4.smth trillion daily.

That's over 6 years of Nigeria's Budget.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Faibuhari: 9:51am On Feb 04, 2015

dokyOloye:
This allegation is meant for d illiterate almajiris in Kano only.
Pls what is d total budget for the whole country in a year?
2014 budget of about 4.5 trillion was highest in d recent past.
30 trillion is like 7 yrs budget.
How long has Dr Iweala been finance minister under GEJ?
Less than 4yrs
Is it possible for such an amount to miss wtout shocking d system?
Pity how even educated Nigerians easily get carried away by mere mention of large sums.
Anybody who has even an elementary knowledge of how govt is run knows that nobody just deeps his hand like that and takes govt money,it is usually tied to inflated contracts,allowances,etc.

a million likes

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:52am On Feb 04, 2015

pekeyim:
You get head Sha!!!

Please just vote for ur No Certificate Man and stop spewing trash on the Internet!!!

Daily crude oil production in Nigeria is about 2 million!

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by uyplus(m): 9:55am On Feb 04, 2015

Kennywills7:
Must Apc play politics wit everything because dey want power by all means?
there is no way a government can steal 30trn and still function, paying of salaries & executing of projects
Is dis not d same Gbajabiamila told us dey will soon impeach Gej?
People must up and realise dat Apc is trying all dey can to remove Gej from seat by any means possible

So has the government paid salaries for the past 3 months? Isn't benue state owing it's teachers for 8months now, and still counting? That money was stolen. Tomorrow you wld object that patience jonathan didnt launder $13m, and you wld object that diezianni didn't spend N10bn on chartered flight. You would also say that $470m scam cctv contract for FCT wasn't true, you may also choose to say that Abba Moro was never involved in the immigration job scam, you may also say that the president doesn't have 11jets in his fleets and never budgeted N10bn for aircraft maintanance, you may also say that our security budget isn't N968bn, you may also say that pension fund scam was untrue, you may also say that $20bn was unremitted to the cbn by NNPC (even though Okonjo Iweala admitted it that the money was missing), you may also say that the president never budgeted N4bn for feeding, you may also say that $30bn wasn't spent by this government to restore power but we currently have less than 3000MW to serve a country of 170million Nigerians.

Stop living in denial. Deep down within you, you know everything is so wrong with this government. Our collective future is at stake. Have you ever thought of what all these missing monies would have been used to achieve if well utilized? Please, lets speak the truth to ourselves. Don't sear your conscience to this injustice!! There's an ever widening gap between the rich and the poor in Nigeria. Poverty has risen from 54% to 70%, GDP has dropped from 11% to 6%, youth unemployment Hss risen from 5% to 75%

God please touch the hearts of youths, open up their eyes so they can see clearly how this economy is nose diving to an all time low state.

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by BashMe1(m): 9:55am On Feb 04, 2015

BlackTechnology:
Gbam

We have lots of educated illiterates in Nigeria.

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So sad u do not know hw rich in resources Nigeria is. Ur a Baboon and i'm sure if u get there, u wudn't kno' when u must av stolen 40trillion sef cos ur jes ignorant of the happenings around u. If he, Jonathan, is not aware of the loot dat enriches him and his croonies do u fink he wud wanna c power as a do or die affair? Or isn't 6yrs enuf 4 him to turn things around for gud? Nigerians cannot be dumb, we r all enlightened... get dat to ur gullible brain skull.[/size]

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 9:58am On Feb 04, 2015

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by KEVIND: 9:59am On Feb 04, 2015*

egift:
You tell me, because to the best of my knowledge, the massive looting the Jonathan is presiding over is making it difficult to calculate the true value of our earnings. We can only consider what made it to the account books before those were stolen too.

Because it was stolen and was not accounted for. For your info, the budget is not to value of what we make. In fact budgets are projected.

So if you projected a budget of 3.9T and you earn above that amount budgeted for what will you call it? Budget supplus.And Nigeria has not had any Budget supplus for more than 3 decades.Our budget has been on deficit thats why we've been borrowing to augment the shortfall. And besides you can't spend any money that is not approve by the national assembley. And the National assembly is made up of PDP,APC & others.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Keneeby(m): 10:00am On Feb 04, 2015

ibisko04:
This is the more reason we must not allow things to continue the same way.
Money is being stolen from government coffer every day by different people and different methods.
Nigerians must not miss this 2015 transition period to take back this country from the locusts.
Every where you go to in government establishments is the same story.
If we can sort this public wastage of our resources, I can tell that Nigeria will become more prosperous than U A E (DUBAI).

The economy should be handed to the hands of the likes of Tinubu? You are a kidding.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by egift(m): 10:00am On Feb 04, 2015

pekeyim:
Daily crude oil production in Nigeria is about 2 million!

Over 400,000 barrels of crude oil are stolen from Nigeria daily
http://tribune.com.ng/business/tribune-business/item/13099-oil-theft-nigeria-s-20bn-per-annum-cesspit/13099-oil-theft-nigeria-s-20bn-per-annum-cesspit

Everyone is calling for an investigation into this massive corruption under the watchful eyes of Jonathan, you are joining those that want it swept under the rug.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by pekeyim: 10:01am On Feb 04, 2015

tbaba1234:
STRIKE 3: First, you admit that ‘oil theft’ has reduced oil output from the average 2.3 – 2.4 million barrels per day (mpd) to 1.95mpd (meaning that at least 350,000 to 450,000 barrels per day are being ‘stolen’. On the average of 400,000 per day and the oil prices over the past four years, it comes to about $60 billion ‘stolen’ in just four years. In today’s exchange rate, that is about N12.6 trillion. This is at a time of cessation of crisis in the Niger Delta and amnesty programme. Can you tell Nigerians how much the amnesty programme costs, and also the annual cost for ‘protecting’ the pipelines and security of oil wells? And the ‘thieves’ are spirits?

Most of the cut in production was due to oil theft and pipe line vandals so production was cut along those lines, Not necessarily that the oil is been siphoned off completely. Oil theft has been happening since in this country and it won't stop now. The situation is not peculiar to Nigeria alone even in other countries like Mexico, such things happen.

About the contract that was awarded to the militants believe me if this wasn't the case the production would have reduced greatly.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by bakila: 10:04am On Feb 04, 2015

egift:
Soludo clear stated where the money was missing from - Crude oil stolen by people close to Jonathan. There is even allegations that Patience have vessels siphoning and bunkering crude oil for her.

Kai!!! This Patience her matter tough sha. Na she be Deputy President everywhere patience patience, now we don loss our patience. GEJ go carry the patience alone go.....!

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by discusant: 10:05am On Feb 04, 2015

egift:
You tell me, because to the best of my knowledge, the massive looting the Jonathan is presiding over is making it difficult to calculate the true value of our earnings. We can only consider what made it to the account books before those were stolen too.

Because it was stolen and was not accounted for. For your info, the budget is not to value of what we make. In fact budgets are projected.

.

Today's financial world is not like during the Abacha-Buhari regime. Today, if government officials in Nigeria stash any huge amounts of stolen money as Sanusi and Soludo
insinuate, alarm bells should have been ringing in global financial institutions. Do you know what $20 billion and 30 trillion Naira are? Sanusi and Soludo did hatchet jobs for APC.

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by bakila: 10:08am On Feb 04, 2015

KEVIND:
So if you projected a budget of 3.9T and you earn above that amount budgeted for what will you call it? Budget supplus.And Nigeria has not had any Budget supplus for almost 30 decade.Our budget has been on deficit thats why we've been borrowing to augment the shortfall. And besides you can't spend any money that is not approve by the national assembley. And the National assembly is made up of PDP,APC & others.

Kai oga u can lie. What is the meaning of excess crude payment that was made to the various tiers of Government is it not money accruing from sale of crude oil above the budget benchmark? Na wah for una.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by fio(m): 10:09am On Feb 04, 2015

nwaanambra1:
YOU NEED SERIOUS EDUCATION!

THE TUITION SPENT ON YOU IS A TOTAL WASTE!

PLS GO BACK AND START FROM NURSERY!

You don't treat people u disagree with like this, show some respect sir.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Kennywills7(m): 10:09am On Feb 04, 2015

uyplus:
So has the government paid salaries for the past 3 months? Isn't benue state owing it's teachers for 8months now, and still counting? That money was stolen. Tomorrow you wld object that patience jonathan didnt launder $13m, and you wld object that diezianni didn't spend N10bn on chartered flight. You would also say that $470m scam cctv contract for FCT wasn't true, you may also choose to say that Abba Moro was never involved in the immigration job scam, you may also say that the president doesn't have 11jets in his fleets and never budgeted N10bn for aircraft maintanance, you may also say that our security budget isn't N968bn, you may also say that pension fund scam was untrue, you may also say that $20bn was unremitted to the cbn by NNPC (even though Okonjo Iweala admitted it that the money was missing), you may also say that the president never budgeted N4bn for feeding, you may also say that $30bn wasn't spent by this government to restore power but we currently have less than 3000MW to serve a country of 170million Nigerians.

Stop living in denial. Deep down within you, you know everything is so wrong with this government. Our collective future is at stake. Have you ever thought of what all these missing monies would have been used to achieve if well utilized? Please, lets speak the truth to ourselves. Don't sear your conscience to this injustice!! There's an ever widening gap between the rich and the poor in Nigeria. Poverty has risen from 54% to 70%, GDP has dropped from 11% to 6%, youth unemployment Hss risen from 5% to 75%

God please touch the hearts of youths, open up their eyes so they can see clearly how this economy is nose diving to an all time low state.

Brou hv not bn following my posts meamwhile talking about dis 30trn bro u knw dats propaganda and u dont expect fed govt to pay state workers salaries (states govts should b hold for dat)

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by eph12(m): 10:09am On Feb 04, 2015

So it's now they know that money is missing or mismanaged? Because election is here? I do tell my friends that I'll take APC serious when their members in the senate and house of rep go out of their way to investigate and probe how money is spent by the federal govt. You don't have to wait till election time before you do that. People may see it as propaganda.

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by pat077: 10:10am On Feb 04, 2015

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by pekeyim: 10:10am On Feb 04, 2015

egift:
Over 400,000 barrels of crude oil are stolen from Nigeria daily
http://tribune.com.ng/business/tribune-business/item/13099-oil-theft-nigeria-s-20bn-per-annum-cesspit/13099-oil-theft-nigeria-s-20bn-per-annum-cesspit

Everyone is calling for an investigation into this massive corruption under the watchful eyes of Jonathan, you are joining those that want it swept under the rug.

I'm saying this is the handy work of APC close to the election to deceive "Gullible" Nigerians.
Like someone clearly said. If money is missing in the creeks, why are you calling Okonjo Iweala into it? Abeg na she dey Sell Oil for water ways for Niger Delta.?

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Kennywills7(m): 10:11am On Feb 04, 2015

uyplus:
So has the government paid salaries for the past 3 months? Isn't benue state owing it's teachers for 8months now, and still counting? That money was stolen. Tomorrow you wld object that patience jonathan didnt launder $13m, and you wld object that diezianni didn't spend N10bn on chartered flight. You would also say that $470m scam cctv contract for FCT wasn't true, you may also choose to say that Abba Moro was never involved in the immigration job scam, you may also say that the president doesn't have 11jets in his fleets and never budgeted N10bn for aircraft maintanance, you may also say that our security budget isn't N968bn, you may also say that pension fund scam was untrue, you may also say that $20bn was unremitted to the cbn by NNPC (even though Okonjo Iweala admitted it that the money was missing), you may also say that the president never budgeted N4bn for feeding, you may also say that $30bn wasn't spent by this government to restore power but we currently have less than 3000MW to serve a country of 170million Nigerians.

Stop living in denial. Deep down within you, you know everything is so wrong with this government. Our collective future is at stake. Have you ever thought of what all these missing monies would have been used to achieve if well utilized? Please, lets speak the truth to ourselves. Don't sear your conscience to this injustice!! There's an ever widening gap between the rich and the poor in Nigeria. Poverty has risen from 54% to 70%, GDP has dropped from 11% to 6%, youth unemployment Hss risen from 5% to 75%

God please touch the hearts of youths, open up their eyes so they can see clearly how this economy is nose diving to an all time low state.

Brou hv not bn following my posts meamwhile talking about dis 30trn bro u knw dats propaganda and u dont expect fed govt to pay state workers salaries (states govts & local govts should b hold for dat)
Bro so u believe unployment in dis country was 5%?
iu just want to mislead pple cos unemployment has never bn 20% not to talk of 5%
it was even higher in d previous administration

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Nobody: 10:12am On Feb 04, 2015

That is what you were meant to believe. Open your eyes!

BlackTechnology:
Did you guys see the four walls of school

There is no way GEJ can loot 30tr naira and still be able to pay salaries let alone projects

Think before you talk

Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by Lagoseko(m): 10:12am On Feb 04, 2015

APC keep digging,de more u look de less u see.sai Gej till 2019

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Re: PDP, APC Reps’ Clash Over Alleged Stolen N30tn by anonimi: 10:14am On Feb 04, 2015

KEVIND:
How much is the total revenue of Nigeria for 4yrs? Who could an educated person believe this trash.the money that acrue to the federal govt in 8yrs is not up to that amount.

That is why APCheat is led by a daft & dumb old pensioner who ran away from secondary school to join the army.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2085733_therealchange_jpg4e5a8116d607b20db273d159562df929

APC= LIES = APC

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